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  • sunnyfornow
    sunnyfornow Member Posts: 19
    edited December 2009

    Hi ladies,

    JULES, sorry you are not getting the full picture. My Dr told me I would get 28 plus the 5 boosts, which are really nothing at all.  I was hoping that she might have cut back on mine at the end like a friend of mine, but no dice I had to go the full 33 treatments.  I too would have been so mad if I had found out that they added more on at the end than what I thought would happen. I do feel for you that is a real bummer!

    SoManyWomen, I hope you plan on something special for your anniversary.  When we are going through this stuff we all need something special to look forward to.  I have no plans to leave the thread becuase like you said we can talk medicine here even w/i going to the Femara thread.We can find out what SE we each have. 

  • mimi1964
    mimi1964 Member Posts: 2,163
    edited December 2009

    Pill - I like the new name runswithscissors... haha!! it is very different for sure.  I asked my techs and doc about increasing my radiation even more in order to get done by the end of 2009, but was told no dice.  I don't know... guess it's in my best interest but not my best pocket book interest.  I wish I lived somewhere I could have done the mammosite.  In the deep south we don't have a lot of options in small towns.  Good Luck opting out of the boosts.

    Jeanette - Thanks for the positive spin on the fill in doc.  I may let him have alook see.  I'm kinda funny about things like that.  You are right he may tell me alot more than I know, but then again I may get nothing and and all he may gain is a look at my boob!!!!!!!!  And waste my time...

    I'll just pray about it. 

    Merry Christmas ladies!!

  • Jules824
    Jules824 Member Posts: 85
    edited December 2009

    Merry Christmas everyone.

    Pill love the new name! And I dont blame you for ending rads early.

    Mimi, I agree that having another doc can be good. I wish I had a totally differet doc then the lady doc. lol.

    Somanywomen & Sunny...I hope you can both get away for your celebrations and congrats on your long time marriages! I was married 20 years the first time when my husband left. Now Im married 3 years to my 2nd husband as of next month.

    Jeanettes- Id be flatered too if my husband was jealous after all that time!. I am from an Italian family and they are not all flirty though. lol. My doc is Italian but is a she doc. She annoys me to no end! lol.

    Well hope everyone is having a great holiday. My husband left for his family out of town for the day. I am staying in and resting. We saw my kids/grandkids yesterday after rads and had a wonderful dinner. But I am worn out.

    We got a Nintendo WII from my son (and I tried to play the "sports" games when I shouldnt have done that w my back and all, and now my whole body feels like it was run over by a mack truck today!). I guess I have to buy some games you play while sitting! My husband got me a Kindle and a 50 dollar gift card to buy books for it! YAY! My daughter & her family got me a sweater, a laptop bag and stand for the laptop, and earphones for my Ipod. (I am a techie girl).

    Take care everyone and again Merry Christmas!

    Jules

  • somanywomen
    somanywomen Member Posts: 872
    edited December 2009

    Merry Christmas to all......My husband is vacuuming and I have to get my feet off floor so here I am...Had a sunny Florida Christmas morn....Santa was good, got my Vitamin Shoppe gift cards, Home Depot cards, Gas cards, pretty nighty set, Blue Man Group tickets, I even got my plastic beach bucket with 2 shovels and a sifter (my best friend asked her husband for a metal detector) we figure as we are walking on the beach and getting our vit D that maybe we will find our fortune...

    Jules, this will be our 10th anniversary, were both married twice before and finally got it right!!..My husband has gotten me an anniversary card every Friday since we met (we met on a Friday), I have hundreds of cards saved.....I was married less than 5 years to my first two, they were both nice guys, just not for me....I kept good relationships with both......Jules, you better slow down with those nintendo games, maybe you should see if they sell a "Knitting" one to play it safe!!..lol...

    So to all the very best of Holidays......1 of Somanywomen

  • mimi1964
    mimi1964 Member Posts: 2,163
    edited December 2009

    somanywomen and Jules - sounds like you both loaded up on the Christmas presents!!! Unfortunately my husband is NOT a holiday kind of guy.  He usually does not buy presents or like this year, he bought a new t.v. with his gift card from work (something he wanted, not me) and said it was both of our presents.  Of course me being a woman I hoped he would do something else (I always hope) and I, as I always do, bought him several things he needed and wanted.  And here it is Christmas day and he got me NOTTA ... nothing... Zilch, as usual.  We have been married 21 years this past September Tongue out and I know how he is, but I still hold out hope, bu he never changes!!!

    Hope you continue to have a great day.

  • somanywomen
    somanywomen Member Posts: 872
    edited December 2009
    Mimi, that's so sad, hopefully he is a nice guy and just a bad gift-giver....I don't want to tell you that my husband just came up behind me and I am thinking okay you don't want me on the computer but I will be off in minute....That's not what he wanted, he reminded me that it was Friday and gave me my every Friday beautiful anniversary card...He's so much more thoughtful than I am...I just wish for you that your hubby improves, that is just so sad...he needs a good talking to.......
  • mimi1964
    mimi1964 Member Posts: 2,163
    edited December 2009

    somanywomen- It's really o.k. My hubby and I dated in high school for 3 years and were high school sweethearts and then broke up and went our seperate ways for 10 yrs.  But that aside I knew all too well how he was before we finally got married and like I said we have been together and married for 21 yrs.  He is not going to change now.  I wish he would but it's not likely to happen after this many years.

    Thanks Renee

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2009

    This is my my very first post. I have been reading about the different subjects for months. I was dx-ed back in June. I've been through chemo and surgery. Lump was removed with clear margins and 17 lymph nodes were taken out - only one had cancer. I started radiation December 30th and have 35 treatments to look forward to.

    I am so grateful for these discussion boards. I found out that my feelings were shared by others. Even more so I felt like for the first time I wasn't alone. Sometimes I would sit and cry because somewhere here had my exact feeling. Thanks everyone. Now I start radiation and I am scared. I cried as they marked me and I cried when I got into the car and drove away. I'll get used to it in time. They tell me this is the easiest part. Is it????

  • somanywomen
    somanywomen Member Posts: 872
    edited December 2009
    Veggy (cute name), with what you have already been through, this will most likely be the easiest part....Actually, the rad treatments, although frustrating at times...are generally easy...I am done with 17 with 13 to go and no loss of energy, just some red bumps on breast, sometimes itchy, but they seem to be under control..I was told I could use cortizone if need be, but so far no need...I soak my breast with a calendula based oil in evening and put a soft hanky over breast under night garments....Ask us anything and we will try to help....1 of somanywomen
  • Jules824
    Jules824 Member Posts: 85
    edited December 2009

     Hi everyone, I hope all is well this rads free weekend!

    Welcome Veggy! I can understand you being upset. I was very upset when finding out about this and surgery day I was a complete mess. It is totally understandable. I was wondering what general area in PA you are from if you dont mnd me asking. (I am from PA too) The reason I ask is, my doctors said the radiation is the easy part so that rang a bell with me. As far as rads,. I am tired in the evening, and burning a bit but the main things that annoy me are the daily trip and the rads doctor. The machine itself is scarey but you feel nothing and its quick. Well please keep us posted on how you are doing. I hope everything goes smoothly for you.

    Mimi Im so sorry you were not happy with the tv. I can understand that. Well just so hes a nice guy and not mean. Some men arent good gift givers. This year I got the Kindle yes, but sometimes my husband buys stuff he likes too. lol..Last year I got an LCD tv but I did wish for one because our old giant screen broke and we were using a portable, and believe it or not I watch tv more than him. But he doesnt send flowers and stuff anymore like the dating days, but hes still a good guy and has stuck by me thru all my health issues even before we got married. So thats all that matters is how men treat you.

    Somanywomen, Im glad you had a nice holiday. Sounds like you have a great husband. That is so romantic a card every Friday! I had a friend who I now lost contact with, but her husband used to send her flowers every week. I often wonder if he still does it because this was long long ago after they first got married.

    Well Im off to the shower. Have a good night and a good Sunday!

    Jules

  • mimi1964
    mimi1964 Member Posts: 2,163
    edited December 2009

    veggy- Please don't feel alone, I to cried the day I saw the Rads Onc and went back that afternoon for my markings.  I did not have to do Chemo this time (however I have had 8 rounds of chemo before and it was no pinic).  I think that radiation affects everyone a little differently and for some it is harder than others.  I have had 11 treatments an have had no burning and have some tenderness in my rib area on the affected side.  I think it may be Chostochondritis but I haven't officially been diagnosed, it is livable and from what I've read it should go away when the rads stops. 

    I to still have days when I will sit and cry just out of the blue.  My family doesn't know I don't tell them.  There's really no reason to it would only disrupt their lives and I don't want pity.  I think every now and then we all just need a good cry it helps with the release.  I know after I have that cry I usually feel better.  Anyway Welcome!!!

    somanywomen - I am a little jealous that you actually found a man who gives you a card every Friday to celebrate the day he met you.  :=)  Wow!!! that man is awesome in my book!!!

    My husband does a lot of things, like go to the doc with me, repair the car, dryer, heat pump, change dirty diapers, etc.  But send flowers or buy gifts he's not real big on.  I remember when we were dating for Valentines Day his mom bought the necklace and box of candy he gave me for him and he had a job and worked full time!! Now he did buy my engagement and wedding rings... LOL!!! and he bought me  a beautiful bottle of perfume for our Anniversary a few months ago.  He just does things sporadically.  He wanted the t.v and assumed I did as well.  It's all good now.  :=)

    I am so enjoying this being off of RADS for 4 days I can't even express it.  My boobie is enjoying it as well.  It has been a little tender and itchy!! 

  • RunswithScissors
    RunswithScissors Member Posts: 323
    edited January 2010

    somanywomen, I know you've probably mentioned what the brand of calendula you're using is, but I can't seem to find it... would you mind sharing that again?

  • mimi1964
    mimi1964 Member Posts: 2,163
    edited December 2009
    RunswithScissors - LOL!!! I to bought my own silver heart locket on line yesterday and a new blouse to wear to a family dinner today.  haha!!!  Merry Christmas to self!!
  • somanywomen
    somanywomen Member Posts: 872
    edited December 2009

    Mimi, yes I do have a great thoughtful husband, he's the only person that I have ever known that had the "Leave it to Beaver" lifestyle..., one brother and perfect parents (their house in Massachusetts even looks like Beave's house and the first time I saw my husbands childhood bedroom it still looked the same as it had while he was growing up and still does!!!)...Maybe that is how he became so nice, he never says a bad thing about anyone and the only person he gets mad at is himself when he makes a simple mistake...My upbringing was just the opposite!!!....But somehow it works!!!..When he first started getting me the every Friday cards (about 13 years ago), I asked him to stop spending money  on cards every week, now I don't know what I would do if I didn't get one.....I hate to tell you this, but he also always opens the car door for me, when he first started that I also thought (hey, I can get the door myself!!) now, 13 years later, I love it!!

    Mimi and RunswithScissors, when I used to want nice material things (diamonds & gold) I would put them on a one-year no interest account at my favorite jewelry store and would have my husband and son make larger payments on my birthday, Mother's day, Valentine's day and Christmas (I called it my once-a-year-gift)..that way I got one really nice gift instead of a bunch of smaller gifts that I didn't want, I know it sounds selfish (I'm over being that materialistic now), but my husband and son would go to the jewelry store and make the payments and have the payments wrapped up in a pretty box, so it was fun and it made it easy for them, so it might work with your hubbys....

    RunningWS..the calendula I found is Boiron's Calendula gel, found at "Vitamin Shoppe", but what I really wanted was the cream or even the spray, this one only has 7%  calendula, so look for the most calendula in a product...I just found Hyland's Calendula Spray on "Vitamin Shoppe" website and I am going to order it, has 22% calendula and a spray just sounds like it will feel good..it's on sale for about $10....

  • RunswithScissors
    RunswithScissors Member Posts: 323
    edited December 2009

    somanywomen,

    Thanks for the info on the cream. I have been making calendula tea and putting on as a compress or sometimes mixing with aloe gel so I could apply and then get dressed. 

    I was hoping to find something easier, but if the creams are so low % wise, I guess I'll just keep making tea. 

    I went to health food store that sells loose herbs in bulk. I bought  .06 of a pound for 2.40, and it's lasting a LONG time.  

    In the am, I put a small pot of water to boil, then shut it off and add a handful of calendula petals.  (I also add a handful comfrey. I bought .06 of that for 1.40.)   I let it steep all morning, while I go to my rads appointment. 've been making enough tea for 2 compresses - I put half in the fridge and use half right away.

    Around noon, I strain it, soak some up in a soft cloth, and put it on my breast as a compress.  My house is kind of cold, so some days I fill the tub and soak in there (breast and compress above the water, the rest of me warming up under the water).  

    When I get out of the tub, I apply the My Girl's cream and get dressed.  

    I do the tea every other day. On off days, I use a diluted apple cider vinegar compress - same routine. 

    I am having some internal pain, but  so far, almost zero redness.  

    The doc did say that accelerated tx means the side effects tend to show up in the 2 weeks AFTER, so we'll see how that goes. She told me I was originally getting a dose of 188, but it was increased to 260.  I was wondering how that compares to the dose others are getting? 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2009

    Jules842 - I am in the N.E. PA. How about you?

    I'm sure it will go well. I just have a hard time getting used to new people and new routines.  I made it this far, I'll make it the rest of the way.

  • Beggy
    Beggy Member Posts: 31
    edited December 2009

    I'm curious about the "rib pain" that some of you have described.  I've only had 3 treatments but already have a very sore area on the left side of my torso about the size of a playing card.  Sort of feels like I was punched in the ribs and is very tender; it also hurts if I twist a certain way  (sort of like I pulled a muscle but I know I didn't).  I plan to tell the doc this on tuesday, but was wondering if this describes the type of pain that some of you have had.

  • somanywomen
    somanywomen Member Posts: 872
    edited December 2009
    Beggy, I have soreness, tenderness and sometimes I feel a pull like a charlie-horse...Let's hope it is normal....I also started getting pimple like red spots, sometimes they go away, but they seem to be staying around longer, they are starting to get itchy so I am using cortizone cream and calendula gel...I am taking tylenol for soreness....My lumpectomy and lymph node scars and areas are still pretty sore....I have had 17 rad with 13 to go......
  • sunnyfornow
    sunnyfornow Member Posts: 19
    edited December 2009

    Hi ladies,

    When I started my rads I thought for sure I would get burned being a redhead and fair, but I didn't.  I didn't do anything to my skin until that last week.  I started to turn red and itch.  You just never know what your skin will do. My ribs didn't bother either, we are all so different yet alike. 

    My husband has never been one for little gifts, but he helps clean the house, takes my car in when work is needed and so many other things that make life nicer for me.  Would l like a special little gift once and a while, sure, but it is not going to happen as Mimi said, at this late stage.  I have been married 40 years this January, You keep hoping, but live with reality of the way things are. 

    Jules,  I see that you have a kindle, I go one last year for Christmas and I just love it. I have over 100 books on it now and 95 % were free.  Let me know what youo think of it.

  • Jules824
    Jules824 Member Posts: 85
    edited December 2009

    Hi Everyone, hope you are having a great day! My husband and I took my dad out to eat breakfast this morning and my son also met us there. Then I took down all the Christmas nik nak stuff. The tree and outdoor lights are still up. My husband will take them down New Years Day, Otherwise Ive been laying around most of the day.

    Veggy, Id say I am in SE Pa. About 30 min. south of Allentown in the boom docks..( I used to live in the city until I got married for the 2nd time almost 3 yrs ago.).

    Sunny, I love my Kindle so far. I only bought one book so far though. How do you get free books?

    To everyone, I find it interesting how we each have different amounts "of total days" of rads. Even people with nearly the same stages (kinds) of breast cancer have different amounts. You would think if people have the same stages the rads amounts would be the same. Oh well..

    Well, Im off to watch 500 Days of Summer with my husband. Take care for now and have a good night.

    Jules.

  • mimi1964
    mimi1964 Member Posts: 2,163
    edited December 2009

    Beggy -The way you described your rib pain... like someone "socked" you in the ribs and they are sore, is exactly the way mine feel!!! And it started about my 3rd day of rads.  It feels a lot like a really bad pulled muscle at times especially is I stretch to the opposite side like I was doing side stretches or reach up for something high in a cabinet.  Good Luck asking your Rad Onc... mine said it wasn't from the rads, but from ALL the research I have done... IT IS!!! I haven't lifted anything heavy,  or pulled or tugged and my ribs are still hurting and it's been over 3 weeks now with sore ribs.  So there isn't anything else that could have caused the sore rib muscles. 

    My hubby takes my car to be repaired and helps clean the house, do the laundry and dishes as well.  Plus he does the yard work!  LOL!!  For some of you that may not know... he put down all the new ceramic tile in our home and laid the wood floors we now have over the holidays.  I know I shouldn't have complained.  Overall he is very good to me, I just wish he would have a little bit more of a romantic side sometimes.  :=)  

    Renee

  • somanywomen
    somanywomen Member Posts: 872
    edited December 2009
    Mimi, sounds like he makes up for the non-romantic side with all the nice things he does and helps you with around the house...maybe while he is doing all that work, he could wear romantic attire like a g-string or something..........(not for outdoor work!!)....lol
  • Beggy
    Beggy Member Posts: 31
    edited December 2009

    Hi Ladies,

    Thanks for sharing your experiences with the "rib pain" issue--mine is so tender that one would expect to see a huge, nasty bruise there, but there's nothing visible.  I guess it's just another SE that simply "goes with the territory" in the world of rads.  (I wonder if my doc will say it's unrelated to the treatments, too!)  My count is officially:  3 down, 25 to go.

  • chinablue
    chinablue Member Posts: 545
    edited December 2009
    Here is a question for those of you that had chemo prior to radiation:Did your radiation oncologist ask you to wait a few weeks before starting radiation to clear your system of toxins? 
  • Jules824
    Jules824 Member Posts: 85
    edited December 2009

    Sorry to those of you having rib pain. No rib pain here...yet anyway.

    Mimi your husband sounds very handy. Ceramic tile is awesome. Im hoping my husband does that in a year or so. He laid pergo this summer and we got rid of most of our carpeting (except one room). But we still have linoleum in the kitchen, laundry room, and bathrooms, Id like ceramic tile in there then.

    Well enjoy the night everyone. Im beat. Went to rads, then to my daughters, then to order a new dryer.

    TTYL...Jules..

  • mimi1964
    mimi1964 Member Posts: 2,163
    edited December 2009

    Hi All - I saw the Onc filling in for my RADS onc today (the one I wasn't sure I was going to see), but I actually liked him better than mine.  He is older, he didn't feel the need to touch and mash on my breast, he looked at my skin and said is looked a little red but overall looked good.  He did check my underarm just to be sure that little knot I had felt wasn't there and it was gone.  Thank you LORD!!  He did listen to my lungs (I'm still not really sure what that is all about, they do it every week?).  He asked me if I was having any problems with my work letting me off to come to my rads appts. (Not sure why he asked that?)... But I told him NO!  I asked him (just to see what his answer would be) about the soreness in my rib area, he asked me when it started and I told him about on my 3rd RADS txt, he asked me if they were using a positioning device on me ( the thingy they put your arm up to the side of your body into keep it away from your underarm and breast when they are doing your treatment) and I told him YES.  He seems to think that the positioner is what is causing it.  I don't!! It doesn't pull my arm up over my head it lies it bent at the elbow with my forearm and hand pointing up toward my shoulder but pulled out enough away from my underarm.  But who really knows?  He thinks that has caused some pulled muscles in my side.  I would have to be out of shape pretty bad for that to happen and I'm not.  I think that is their way of not having to blame it on radiation.  So I guess I might as well "suck it up" and deal with it...  I have 26 more txts to go.  Oh my GOSH!!! Will I ever get done?  If my breast is already getting red after 12 what will it look like in 10 more?

    Renee

  • somanywomen
    somanywomen Member Posts: 872
    edited December 2009
    Mimi, my breast has been getting pimple like bumps, they itch more at nightime....I have been using cortizone and then my calendula over it.....They are usually better by morn....My whole breast is sore when I push in on it lightly....Of course, none of this is caused by the rads even though the rad onco's assistant (I never see my rad onc) told me that she thinks I am doing great and much better than expected!!!...What did she expect?....they had told me all side effects from rads are rare!!!...yeah right!!!...nobody tells you anything until it happens.....My trust in doctors has been lowered by about 75% since starting this journey.....With your first hand knowledge (being a nurse)..what are your thoughts?????
  • mimi1964
    mimi1964 Member Posts: 2,163
    edited December 2009

    somanywomen- My thoughts are this... it has been my experience with medications that usually one in 10 people will get at least one of the side effects that they tell you 1 in every 10000 will get.  So, therefore, I believe with radiation and from what I have read on these boards and the research I have done myself, that the opposite is true.  That more people, particularly ladies, receiving breast irradiation, tend to experience some sort of side effect.  From what my rads onc and techs have told me they do expect some level of burning and they have prescription creams that they will write for it, if and when it happens.  I believe it just depends on what clinic you are using.  But there again they are quick to ignore that other side effects are not "related" to the radiation, but the evidence is there, some research has been done, but it has not been written in STONE!  So many of the oncologist's chose to ignore it... like the inflamation in the rib area.  There is written evidence and research that rads causes Chostochondritis, but the Onc's are not quick to admit that is what causes it.  I am almost positive that is what I have.  I have all the symptoms and I expect it to go away when rads stop.  I totally agree with you that my confidence in doctors has been lowered about 75% since starting this journey, actually in the entire medical field.  I'm not even sure about the hospitals and insurance companies.  I don't trust them at all.  This is totally off subject, but I have 2 insurances and both are providers for the hospital I used for my surgery... the hospital is suppose to expect what the minimum they offer to pay is, but I received a bill Saturday for $2500.00 on my surgery!!!! What the heck is that about... I mean I don't feel like I should be left owing little to nothing with what I pay out in insurance premiums on 2 insurances.  But here I am with bills, and if I'm right I'm going to end up having to fight with insurance companies and hospitals over bills and then probably will still have to pay about the $4000.00 that the insurance companies didn't pay on the hospital/medical bills.  Heck I have a good job and so does DH, but we have other bills to pay and are on a budget.  Hospital bills are unexpected things that aren't included in the budget.  I'm not sure where $4000.00 will come from.  You can't get blood from a turnip (so to speak).

    Thanks for listening to my rant!!!! 

    Renee

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