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  • Makratz
    Makratz Member Posts: 12,678
    edited December 2009

    Love the pic Meece.  It's nice to see you.  Now we need to see Sheila!

  • Meece
    Meece Member Posts: 19,483
    edited December 2009

    You don't see Sheila?  I think she is the pink one in the four o'clock position.  It's the one with the best smile.

  • adms74
    adms74 Member Posts: 13
    edited January 2010

    Hi All.  I am new to this thread.  I am stage I and just started chemo - 6 rounds of TC.  I was wondering if it is "normal" to feel sick to your stomach, stomach pains and very tired the first 4 days after the first treatment?  I also have muscle aches and pains still and my taste buds, gums and tongue feel like I burned them.  My doctor said about 7 days after the treatment (which was Christmas day) I would start to feel really tired but I have not experienced that yet.  Any chance I won't? :)  And lastly, hair loss.  Does this always happen on TC x6?  Thanks to everyone! Glad I found this thread.

  • Meece
    Meece Member Posts: 19,483
    edited December 2009

    Welcome, aimee.  Chemo side effects vary, but the most common ones are what you have listed.  There are a lot of options to minimize or eliminate the nausea.  The exhaustion, I have no idea what can be done about that.  You have cells that are being killed off, and your body is working hard dealing with that.  I had a few places on my tongue that seemed dead or burnt, and it drove me crazy!  I have heard that there are women out there who have not lost their har, but I have never met one.  I have also heard that some lose just part of their hair, but I doubt it coems out evenly, so head coverings are probably always in the future.  Or, you can shave what is left on your head and go natural.  We are glad you found us as well.  You are going to get some good direction and advice, and a sounding board for your frustration which friends and family who have never been in your shoes cannot understand.

    Welcome,

    Meece

  • adms74
    adms74 Member Posts: 13
    edited January 2010

    Thanks Meece for taking the time to answer my questions.  Happy Holidays.

  • Harley44
    Harley44 Member Posts: 5,446
    edited December 2009

    Aimee,

    Yes, unfortunately, I have not heard of any women who are getting TC who do NOT lose their hair!

    There is another type of chemo, CMF which will allow you to keep your hair.  It WILL still thin out and in some cases, the thinning is dramatic!   Anyway, I had Taxotere & Cytoxan, so I had the same chemo cocktail that you're having, only I 'only' had 4 tx...

    Good luck with your tx!   Please keep posting here, and let us know how you're doing.

    sending HUGS your way!!!

    Harley

  • Nicole112
    Nicole112 Member Posts: 327
    edited December 2009

    Hello ladies and all the "newbies". I still find it fascinating how many different treatment options there are out there for bc... when you were first diagnosed didn't you think cancer was cancer and chemo was chemo? I had never thought there were so many different types of bc and with that so many different treatment options. I had 8 rounds of chemo ACT... I am curious when and how the medical team decides who gets the ACT and who gets TC, who is the best candidate for a mastectomy and who is not... I remember begging to get my breasts removed when my first surgery did not clear the margins but two drs said it was not necessary.

    Anyway, I love that we all get to come on here and talk about our experiences... like many have said before me, I have learned more on these boards than I have in some of my appts.

    Good luck Aimee and Erika in the upcoming weeks! Come to the boards when you need support or questions answered.

    Meece- great PIC!

    Getting ready to go skiing with the family tomorrow... then back to work for a week and January 8th I get my Zometa infusion!

    Have a great New Year week everyone!

  • Meece
    Meece Member Posts: 19,483
    edited December 2009

    Thanks Nicole.  I had AC x 4 and T x 4.  I thought Zometa was for metastases.  With you having 0/1 nodes, is it used for preventative as well?

    Have fun skiing.  

  • Nicole112
    Nicole112 Member Posts: 327
    edited December 2009

    Hi Meece, I forget you are a Grade 3 with me... I was just having anxiety about the darn Grade thing again! Why does my brain take me there:????

    My dr recommends Zometa for early stage as well as late stagers... there has been debate over this topic... not sure why some get this option and not all... I will say insurance has some issues with it. Go to the Zometa webite, it will talk about it... I wll try and find the link and post back..

  • Nicole112
    Nicole112 Member Posts: 327
    edited December 2009

    Meece,

    Interesting, went to the Zometa website and it does not talk about it... read this article... http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2008/06/03/breast-drug.html

  • Meece
    Meece Member Posts: 19,483
    edited December 2009

    I started reading the article, and will finish it, but it sort of lost my attention when it stated premenopausal taking hormones.  I am premenopausal, but being TN I won't be taking hormones.

  • Nicole112
    Nicole112 Member Posts: 327
    edited December 2009

    Forgot about the TN, another example of how many variations! With this said, not sure why the hormones play into it, this is for the bones...

  • Meece
    Meece Member Posts: 19,483
    edited December 2009

    I saw that.  Bone mets is scary.  I learn so much to ask my onc about on these threads.  I'll bet she sometimes wishes I would not come here!

  • kt57
    kt57 Member Posts: 425
    edited December 2009

    Aimee,

    I had 6 rounds of TC.  Each round was a little different.  Days 3&4 were the worst -- felt crummy, achy, woogy, stomach upset, mouth weirdness, feverish.  I did not hesitate to medicate myself with zofran, ativan and tylenol/advil during those days.   By day 5 I was recovering and felt better/stronger each day.   Weeks 2 and 3, I felt pretty good.   The SEs I had varied in intensity with each cycle.   Keep a log off your side effects and tell your onc and chemo nurse... there are plenty of things that you can do to lessen the side effects.

    My hair started falling out on Day 15 -- I lost most of it. Your scalp will feel weird when it is happening -- almost sore.  It was an emotional few days for me - worse than I thought it would be.  Once it was gone, it was better.. i stopped thinking about losing it.   I had a great wig for work and going out.  Otherwise I lived in REI buffs, knit hats and scarves. 

    Check out the "Anyone of Taxotere and Cytoxin" thread.  Lots of helpful information and support there. 

    You can do this!  Take care of yourself and let people help you.   Hugs to you...

  • Makratz
    Makratz Member Posts: 12,678
    edited December 2009

    Thanks for pointing her out Meece!  She's beautiful!!  Love the smile!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2009

    Ya got that right, Karen - laughter is the best medicine!

    Newbies should also check out the 'how I got breast cancer thread'.  It's hilarious.  I'll bump  it to make it easier to find and then I'm saying nighty, night!

  • nanaiq
    nanaiq Member Posts: 23
    edited December 2009

    kt57-

    I can't find the "anyone of Taxotere and cytoxin" thread. Help?

  • Meece
    Meece Member Posts: 19,483
    edited December 2009
  • Meece
    Meece Member Posts: 19,483
    edited December 2009

    Hey, the link works!  I did it!  Yippee!!!

  • nanaiq
    nanaiq Member Posts: 23
    edited December 2009

    thanks, Meece

    appreciate it

  • Meece
    Meece Member Posts: 19,483
    edited December 2009
    Hope you get the information you need, nanaiq.
  • Grakenmom
    Grakenmom Member Posts: 169
    edited December 2009

    Hello ladies - popping in again to wish everyone a very Happy New Year, and hope everyone had an enjoyable holiday.

    I'm 7 weeks out from bilat mast w/ TE's, have had several fills so far, and seem to be doing pretty well. Right shoulder still bothers me some with certain extensions of my arm, but I'm doing my exercises to get it right again. I still get tired very easily, but overall these things are minor compared to what many of you are going through.  

    I think of all of you every day, and pray for everyone, if you are just embarking on this journey, going through chemo, rads, and meds - I pray for your strength, knowledge and peace of mind with your decisions. I wish you each the very best,and I thank you for sharing your experiences and knowledge - I couldn't have gone down this path without you!  So even though I've never "met" any of you, I am grateful beyond meaure for each of you. Thank you.

    Wishing you a healthy and happy New Year -xo, Erika (too!)

  • jsh22
    jsh22 Member Posts: 52
    edited December 2009

    Hi Everyone, I haven't posted here in a long while, but I thought I would stop in and say "Hi" to everyone and hope all are having a wonderful holiday season.  I am 2 weeks post-op from my second surgery...1st one, mastectomy, 2nd one, reconstruction and have been feeling quite good.  First few days after surgery were a bit rough and painful, but has been much better each day!  I am happy to report that my oncologist said I did not have to have chemo again, just Tamoxifen which I started today.  Wondering if anyone else on just tamoxifen and how they feel about taking it.  I am thinking of going for a second opinion at a Cancer Treatment Center of America and wondered if anyone else had an experience there.  When it came to treatment, did you all get 2nd opinions just to make sure you were getting correct treatment for your particular situation?  Just curious...thanx for any advice any of you can give.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2009

    Hi jsh22.  I felt comfortable with my BS, med onc and rad onc and didn't get second opinions.  I'm still okay with that decision but I do occasionally wonder if I should have gotten a second, just because.  Hindsight says it couldn't hurt, but then what if the second differed from the first - would I then have to do a third to break the tie.  Decisions, decisions, decisions....  After you hear from others, do what you think will make you the most comfortable.  As I said, I'm comfortable with my decisions but then, I've been that way my entire life.

    My best to you.

  • jsh22
    jsh22 Member Posts: 52
    edited December 2009

    Thank you Patoo...this is my second round with the BC and I had this oncologist the 1st time around.  I do like him and think he is an excellent doctor, but sometimes I wonder why he didn't put me on tamoxifen the 1st time around...I just had lumpectomy and radiation, but receptors were positive.  I mostly wanted to see if there was any alternative treatment that would work just as well or in conjuction with the tamoxifen.  I know that the Cancer Treatment Centers of America focus on each persons individual treatment options, both conventionally and alternatetively, so I was just wondering if anyone else had any experience with alternative medicines too?

  • sheila888
    sheila888 Member Posts: 25,634
    edited December 2009

    Hi jsh22.....Sorry your second time around, why don't you ask your oncologist that question? He should give you an answer. I don't really know much about alternatives treatments, but there is a topic about it someplace on these boards. Ill look for it.

    Meanwhile we are here for you.

    Sheila

  • o2bhealthy
    o2bhealthy Member Posts: 2,101
    edited December 2009

    jsh22 - I went to CTCA in Arizona for my second option right after dx - it was a great facility and the concept is terrific but it was not for me (I did not like the onc and its was 3 hours one way - didn't think I could handle that). 

    I started Tamox on Dec 1st...I am worried about the SE's but so far so good and I did get baseline uterine measurements to watch for thickening and other issues.  I take my Tamox at night and have not notices any SE's but I could be sleeping through them :)  

  • adms74
    adms74 Member Posts: 13
    edited January 2010

    Harley44 and kt57: Thanks for the information.  I went ahead and purchased 2 wigs today, which my 3 year old son promptly tried on as soon as I got home.  My husband, mother in law, cousin and aunt tried them on too.  It was very entertaining.  

     I did "hit the wall" so to speak and became very tired. The doctor checked my WBC today (11 days post chemo) and it was 1400.  So now I am on antibiotics and will receive the shot starting with round 2.  Can't wait to have more energy to keep up with the kids!   

    Has anyone specifically asked their oncologist test the tumor for the topo2 enzyme?   

  • sheila888
    sheila888 Member Posts: 25,634
    edited December 2009

    Hi Michelle...Does baseline uterine measurements have anything to do with being HER+?

    I'm little nervous because when I see My Oncologist the beginning of the March, I think that will be the last 4 months check-up. I'm trying to gather information if I need any type of test before he starts seeing me once a year.

    I am not comfortable with the idea once a year. But I also know thats how it will be. Maybe I can mention if I could see him every 6 months, what can he say beside no.

    Thanks. There are I believe only 4 or 5 HER+ sisters in this thread.

    Sheila

  • Meece
    Meece Member Posts: 19,483
    edited December 2009

    I hadn't noticed how few HER+ girls there are here.  

    Seyla, my Onc told me last year that I could start coming annualy if I wanted.  I said I didn't want, so I still see her every 6 months.  Now that I have a suspicious area, I will be getting a few more mammos at the six month intervals. I doubt that your onc would say you couldn't see him every six months.

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