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  • Kayel
    Kayel Member Posts: 28
    edited December 2009

    Hi Everyone~

    Jenn~ I am so sorry that you are in such pain.  I hope that you feel better quickly after your last treatment.  Just saying last treatment makes me smile.  I am so happy you are almost done!!!!!

    Lilah ~ So happy to hear that you are doing well. 

    Donna~  Good luck with your Scan.  It will be good news for sure!

    Patty~  AC is so bad it makes everything else easier.  My nurse said that is why they give it first.

    Gill ~ Glad your foot has healed and glad to hear you are handling rads well.  I will be starting mid to late Jan. 

    As long as this journey has seemed at times it has actually gone by quickly (thank goodness).  Just looking at when most of us signed up on the board makes you realize how long it has been.

    I have hair all over my head (maybe a 1/4 inch) and now have hair growing in all the other places as well.  I have to shave again now. (That is one part of all of this that I am going to miss.  It has been so nice to not shave!).  My hair started coming in completely white and now it is darkening up.  I hope that I do not lose it again.

    I have been getting alot of rest in hopes that my counts will be good this week and I can sail through the final 4!

    Anyone taking holiday gifts into your oncology nurses and docs? If so, I would love any ideas.

    Take Card

    Kaye

  • msmpatty
    msmpatty Member Posts: 818
    edited December 2009

    Kaye...one of the chemo nurses told me she feels sorry for people who do Taxol or another drug before surgery and then have AC afterward.  I totally feel for them as well.   Seems like you'd get the idea chemo isn't too bad and then wham...AC.  Ugh.   Best wishes for good blood counts!

    Patty

  • jenn3
    jenn3 Member Posts: 3,316
    edited December 2009

    The weather has been just terrible this past week, raining, street flooding, some homes and businesses have had flooding, as well as cars trying to get through the mess........ I started Christmas shopping early so I wouldn't feel rushed and here I am rushed because these last few weeks of chemo have just knocked me back and it's just harder to get the last little bit done.  Thank you to everyone for your support!!!  

    Donna - so glad to hear from you.  I just love the pic with your glasses - Hollywood.............. I'm waiting to see if my insurance company will approve the PET scan, which doesn't look likely so I'll probably have to settle for the CT scan.  I am concerned about my back, which may all be chemo pain, but I have such terrible pain in the ribs, spine and muscles.  I guess at this point we fear every ache and pain.  Is the shortness of breath from rads?  Pink boob - ouch, what about under the arm area?

    Patty - Mashed potatoes - one of my all time favorite comfort foods, now they just don't look appetizing.  I read that would happen, but during the bad days of chemo we eat what we can get down and for me that was one of them, along with toast and soup.

    Kayel - Wow 1/4 hair, it's getting there.  I too am having to shave, but only my legs and it's about every two weeks.  And......... the hair on my legs isn't dark, but a soft white fuzz.  Wierd.  I'm thinking of taking something to the nurses, but not sure what.  They get so much food, but I think that's what I'm going to end up bringing.  Either homemade goodies or something from a local bakery.   With that said, twice I've brought in presents just because.  Once candy and the other was Saints stuff for everyone.  I've been thinking small purse sized hand creams would be good for as much as they wash their hands.  Also, my nurses seem to wear the homemade seasonal decorations given to them by patients (necklaces, bracelets, etc). 

    Lilah - Wow!!! You are doing so good with this surgery.  Way to go............. Yeah!!! on getting the drains out tomorrow!  You'll be unstoppable then.

    I was just thinking after Friday I'll be able to say, it's been ------ PFC or it's been ------ PFC.  Wow, won't that feel good.   Do we say PFR for rads or combine it all together?

  • Kim09
    Kim09 Member Posts: 100
    edited December 2009

    Good news.  The doctor removed the 3 remaining drains and all the staples today.  Now I just have to work on losing the stomach.  He told me the only exercise I can do right now is walking (no Wii Fit).  Jenn you are better than me on the Christmas shopping.  I only have to buy for two people and I still don't have one of them done.

    On the bright side, I have been baking cookies and I must say they came out pretty good.  I am planning on taking some into work when I drop in on Thursday.  The department is having their holiday potluck and I am going to crash it. 

  • Lilah
    Lilah Member Posts: 4,898
    edited December 2009

    I must be an oddball -- I found Taxol far worse than AC.  AC made me lose my hair, which sucked, but other than that I pretty much sailed through it with minor SEs like low white blood count, poor taste buds, gastric distress.  Taxol gave me great pain in my lower legs and feet and made me very tired.  All I can say, overall, is: feh on chemo!

    EDIT: Actually, AC also gave me chemopause, dry mouth, dry skin, dry eyes... but even with this additional list of SEs I still feel that Taxol was worse.  It may just be cumulative though...and also a matter of recent vs. distant memory :)

    Had my drains out today and saw my MX breast for the first time (bandages had been on since last Wednesday) and I am so happy!   It looks very good for what it is and I'm looking forward to the fills (as much as one can) and to the exchange.

    Cheers,

    Lilah

  • jenn3
    jenn3 Member Posts: 3,316
    edited December 2009

    Good morning - My mom is picking me up this morning so that I can finish off my shopping and then I can begin baking and my all time favorite - wrapping.  I love to wrap..............  I put Christmas movies and/or music, set out all of the wrap, ribbons, bows and tags and make a day of it. 

    Kim - glad those drains are out before Christmas.  Whoo Hoo on crashing the party.  My office is having a luncheon tomorrow, which I'm dropping in for.  I'm hoping to get some baking done this afternoon, but if not I'll bring them something next week.

    Lilah - Glad to hear the incisions look good and the drains are out.  When do you start the fills? I think AC and Taxol have their own miserable SE's.  For a while I was saying AC was worse, but the pain has gotten so bad with Taxol I'm thinking they're both miserable in different ways.

    Have a great day.

  • Lilah
    Lilah Member Posts: 4,898
    edited December 2009

    Jenn - there you go! CHEMO JUST SUCKS.  I am glad I got that out.  I remember my Onc said to me at last visit: so -- AC the worst?  I said -- No way!  Taxol!  I think she was surprised.  Next time I will simply say: CHEMO the worst.  Been there, done that and glad it's over.

    I am not sure when I start fills (will find out tomorrow when I see the PS for follow-up post-surgery) but I think it might be next week.  My doctor likes to do it once a week.   We shall see what happens! 

    Cheers,

    Lilah

  • msmpatty
    msmpatty Member Posts: 818
    edited December 2009

    Lilah - Sounds like things are going well after your surgery.  Yeah!   And I think you are right...AC, TAC, Taxotere, Taxol, etc...they all pretty much suck. 

    Kim - Congrats on the drain removal.   Those things are a pain!

    Jenn - Mashed potatoes are also on my list of "flashback to AC"!  Baked potatoes, however, taste great now.    Good luck on your LAST TX!   I'm so proud of you for getting through this!

    Patty

  • Karen09
    Karen09 Member Posts: 320
    edited December 2009

     Jenn - one more tomorrow!!!!   You can do it!  

    I know what you ladies mean about "flashback" foods - I don't think I'll ever eat another cheeseburger or egg salad sandwich again.  Ugh!  I just want to throw up thinking about them.  LOL!  

    It is so cold here!  Freezing!  I have to go in for bloodwork this afternoon and then I think I'll take it easy and stay in for the next couple days and try to do some stuff around the apartment.  I went out to see "the Blind Side" with Sandra Bullock last night with some girlfriends.  What an amazing movie!   I laughed, I cried.  Definitely something everyone should see! 

    Hope you are all doing well!   

  • jenn3
    jenn3 Member Posts: 3,316
    edited December 2009

    Good morning - Yesterday we had the first sunny day in over a week and the rain is back today - ugh!!!  I'm going to stay in the mindset that if it rains and is miserable now, we'll have a beautiful Christmas.  I finished my Christmas shopping yesterday and have decided if it isn't bought then that person will get money.  We went early and left a little after lunchtime and the crowds were terrible and that was on Wednesday. Even traffic was bumper to bumper for about a mile around the mall.   I can only imagine how it's going to look by the weekend and next week.  Tomorrow is my last chemo - whoo hoo.........................

    Karen - I saw "Blindside" a few weeks ago - great movie!! The next on my list is "It's Complicated" w/Meryl Strep and Alec Baldwin. 

    Have a great day!

  • Karen09
    Karen09 Member Posts: 320
    edited December 2009

    I really want to see "It's Complicated" too Jenn!  I just love Meryl Streep and the movie looks like a hoot.

  • jenn3
    jenn3 Member Posts: 3,316
    edited December 2009

    Movies during the holiday season are always good - I can't wait to hit the movies over the next few weeks............

  • NavyMom
    NavyMom Member Posts: 1,099
    edited December 2009

    Jenn  one more to go!  woo hoo!!!!!  Good for you.

    Hello to everyone.  Hope things are going well for everybody.  I read your posts everyday but I don't write very often.

    I had my post chemo CT scans on Tuesday.  Everything Ok except for a lymph node in my armpit that has grown in size when compared to my pre chemo CT.  Onc has ordered a PET scan now.  Anything suspicious on it and I will be in for a biopsy.  If that is positive then I will be joining the radiation club.  Onc thinks it could be scar tissue????  So another wait and see.  Gosh, how I hate the waiting.  Ya gotta wait for the insurance approval, then wait to have the scan then wait for the results.  If chemo didn't make me lose my hair this certainly would!

    Navy

  • buccaneersdj
    buccaneersdj Member Posts: 241
    edited December 2009

    Navy, I too go in for a CT scan tomorrow. I wanted to let you know that when I got my first CT scan back in July they found an enlarged lymph node on the opposite side of BC site. I too was sent for a PET scan and it was not CA. Apparently when it is the PET scan makes it light up like a xmas tree. So I understand your fear, and yes the waiting sucks so hang in there!!! I guess we will never get used to the waiting. I'm thinking of you!!! {{{{HUGS}}}} Donna

    Jenn, you too will be in my thoughts tomorrow....congrats!!!!!

  • Kayel
    Kayel Member Posts: 28
    edited December 2009

    Hello Ladies~

    I agree with you about the fact that Chemo sucks!!   I will be so glad to be finished.  My WBC rebounded a bit and I was able to have my treatment today.  3 more to go!!!!!!!  I was also unblinded and I was recieving the avastin.  I only had 4 treatments as I declined to continue participating a while back.

    I have started to feel very anxious about the "what if it comes back".  I think hearing that I will not be undergoing regular pet scans has started the worry train and I can not get it back to the station, lol.  I am really a very positive person and have been through this whole process but I am it is harder for me now that I am almost finished chemo.  Is anyone else feeling worried.  My hubby keeps telling me to remember all of the survivior stories and I do but.........

    I want to see Blindside and Its Complicated as well.  It will be nice to kick back and enjoy the holidays.

    Have a good end of the week everyone!

    Kaye

  • msmpatty
    msmpatty Member Posts: 818
    edited December 2009

    Kaye...I'm with you on being worried.   My surgeon ordered a routine 6-month mammogram for my surgery side, which I had today.   Doesn't seem like something routine should worry me and with surgery and 20 weeks of chemo it hardly seems possible that something could be growing in there...but still...  Of course tons of people survive this disease, I know quite a few.  But I think we'll probably all still be a little worried each time we have a test.

    Navy...Again...after all your chemo it hardly seems possible something bad could be growing in your lymph node.  Let's think good thoughts. Like Donna says,  it may just be scar tissue!   (I saw on the mammogram today where I have these little "clips" inside where they took the lymph nodes.  Apparently they put them in to keep the tissue from pulling apart...who knew?)

    Jenn-   I'll be thinking of you tommorrow!   I'll be in the chair for Taxol #6...can't wait until I'm on #12 like you!

    Patty

  • Kim09
    Kim09 Member Posts: 100
    edited December 2009

    Well, I crashed my works holiday party today.  It was nice seeing everyone.  While I was there I found that my boss had said that I have been very professional through all this at the division Christmas party.  That was very nice of him.  I also thanked him for the promotion I received right before I went out for surgery.  Its nice that at least my worklife had some positive news this year.  Working through my chemo really helped me not get myself down so it was a win win for everybody.

     Monday I meet with the radition onc to see what the next step will be.  Tuesday I go back to the surgeon and I need to ask him when he will release me to go back to work.  Before I went out for my bi-lat, I thought I would be back beginning of January but I just want to confirm that.

  • Reni
    Reni Member Posts: 81
    edited December 2009

    Hi Everyone,

    Its been sooo long since I posted and there are way too many new posts that it'll take me days to read it.

    Anyway if anyone remembers me - I started my chemo with all of you in Aug. I finished Nov 23 then went to London to see my family.

    I'm doing well and life after chemo is good. Only thing is my black nails...Surprised. They hurt so bad and two are lifting from the nail bed and has a rather foul odour!! I'm on antibiotics fighting a viral infection.... 

    Has anyone else had the nail problem?

    RENI

  • YoYo44
    YoYo44 Member Posts: 203
    edited December 2009

    Hi Ladies,

    Glad to hear there is so much good news.

    Jenn, congrats on the last TX.  You are a trouper.  You have toughed through it all.  You should be proud of your strength and positive and inspiring attitude.  What a great thing to celebrate at Christmas for you.

    Lilah and Kim, I am glad everything is going well after surgery for you both.  Getting the drains out is so liberating and showering is underrated!!!

    Navy, crossing my fingers and saying a prayer for you.  The waiting is torture, hope you find some good diversions.

    And yes, chemo does suck.  I went in yesterday to get the path reults and find out what is next and it occurred to me how wonderful it was having a vacation from chemo and being like a regular person for a while.  We really do take our good health for granted.  I hope I never do in the future!!

    So here is my update from the onc yeterday.  Clean margins, 6/8 nodes pos (yuck) and after 14 weeks of taxol my tumour, which was now determined to be heterogeneous, is now low Pr from very high Pr and Grade 2 instead of Grade 1.  Argh!  My onc said the silver lining is grade 2 is more sensitive to chemo and yes, there will be more chemo and radiation too of course.  They also found that the 4 cm tumour was in a region spanning 10 cm with cancer cells.  Darn sneaky ILC!!!!  But the good news was the other breast was clear.  Yay!!

    So I think my chemo will start Jan 14.  Not sure yet what it will be but the options are likely FEC or 4AC.  I am now an interesting case so they will discuss me at tumour board (with BC we never want to be "special" do we...).  Will get the details for rads later I guess.  Oh well.  So I will enjoy the chemo vacation for now.  I also did not get the go ahead to return to work-will probabbly go after the chemo starts I guess once I know how it is going.

    So progress anyway.  I know what we are dealing with at least and once I get the story from the onc I will just focus on he next step-chemo.

    Have a great weekend ladies!!  Stay strong-against the BC and the Christmas shoppers at the mall!!! Smile

  • Lilah
    Lilah Member Posts: 4,898
    edited December 2009

    YoYo -- ugh sorry you have to have more chemo.  But glad the other breast was clean!  I am hopeful that the pathology on my breast (R) will be all good.  Not sure who gives that report (or when).  Sounds like one must wait a bit as I am pretty sure you had your MX weeks before I did.

    Cheers,

    Lilah

  • jenn3
    jenn3 Member Posts: 3,316
    edited December 2009

    Good afternoon - I'm back from my last chemo, rang the bell and walked out - I'm done!  Now I can start healing before I start radiation which should be in the next 4 -6 weeks. 

    YoYo - Enjoy your chemo break for now!!!  I am really sorry you have to go through more chemo, but glad the other breast was clear.  

    Reni - glad to hear from you, it has been a while.  I didn't suffer with the black nail thing, but from what I've read tread it with TLC, be careful and it will get better.  What has the onc suggested?  Can you see a dermatologist for it?

    Kim - Sounds like the work party was fun.  And really glad you've received so much support from the office.  I've also received unconditional support and it does make going through this much easier.

    Patty - Halfway through - whoo hoo.................... The rest of the time will fly by.

    NavyMom - I am sorry you have to wait.  Please let us know the results when you get them.

    Donna - let us know how the CT scan goes. 

    Kayel - Funny thing is I worry more now that I'm at the end, than during the earlier days of tx.  I think it's part of the emotional process we go through.  Deal with the disease, then worry and somewhere along the way after tx we find out way back to a new normal.  I hate hearing from people I'll be fine, be positive, blah, blah, blah.  Again, it's part of the emotional games this disease and medicine plays with us.  So........... worry as much as you want for now, then move on to the next step.

    We're going to a party for the Saints v Cowboys game tomorrow. So, I am off to cook jambayala. Hope everyone has a wonderful evening and will talk to y'all later..................

  • Lilah
    Lilah Member Posts: 4,898
    edited December 2009

    Jenn -- WAHOOOO!!!!!!!   I am celebrating your having finished!  I remember getting flowers and stuff from friends and family... took me a good 3 weeks to FEEL like I was done tho.

    Jambalaya!?  YUM!

    Cheers,

    Lilah

  • msmpatty
    msmpatty Member Posts: 818
    edited December 2009

    YoYo - sorry to learn about your path report and the need for more chemo.  Oncs have such an interesting way of looking at things.   I thought it was a good thing that my tumor was Her-.  My Onc said, "but we have treatments for Her+ that really work".   Now your Onc is happy about your "upgrade" to  Grade 2 because...like he said...it responds better to treatment!  Great news on the margins and the "clean" breast!

    Lilah, Navy, Donna - keeping my fingers crossed for your test and pathology reports!

    Jenn - You go girl!   So happy that you are done!

    Reni - Great to hear that there is life after chemo!  Hope your nails hang in there.

    I had Taxol #6 today and reported the new tingling/numby state of my fingers to the chemo nurse.  She talked to the chemo pharmacist...who called my Onc...who reduced this dose and the next six by 20%.   I was to told to expect the current tingling/numby feelings to stay but that it shouldn't get any worse with the dose reduction.  So...we'll see!  Otherwise, I haven't had any pain or other SEs from the Taxol.  I feel lucky for that.

    Have a great weekend ladies!

    Patty

  • jenn3
    jenn3 Member Posts: 3,316
    edited December 2009

    It's midnight - can't sleep - steriod high working it's magic.  My mind is racing with "to do" list for Christmas.  Since the holidays are on my mind - what plans are y'all making?  Anyone brave enough to travel this year or cutting back? 

    The only thing we're doing differently this year is that I'm not hosting a big dinner for my family - Thanksgiving really was too much.  I finally (at the end of chemo) made boundries and told them I just can't do it. There were some oh no's.............. why not............, we'll help............, but I stuck to it and said no - not this year.  My cousin who is the other family member that puts on dinners for the family offered to put together a lunch the day after Christmas for our side because hosting it for Christmas is too much for her as well.   So.......... I will still go to my SIL's big Christmas Eve party, but will be doing a small brunch for DH, DD's, Mom and Sister on Christmas Day and have a relaxing easy Christmas - which will be a first for me.  Then on Saturday head to my cousin's and visit with the rest of my side of the family at a more relaxing pace.

  • Lilah
    Lilah Member Posts: 4,898
    edited December 2009

    Hey Jenn -- well let's see it's 2:40 AM and I'm all wound up (no steroids for an excuse -- I think I had too much Diet Coke with Caffeine too late in the evening :)  I'm feeling better every day since the surgery.  Hope I get to hear about my path results on the breast they removed when I see my BS next week.  I know I have an appointment with my ONC in January but hope I don't have to wait until then!  Patty -- thanks for the good wishes there!  And so glad you got a reduction on the chemo; maybe that will do the trick for you.  I never felt it in my fingers, only my toes.

    My right boob has occasional sharp pains (which my PS said are nerves coming back to life, oh joy) but they don't last long so I can bear it.  Other than that I feel pretty good.  Have my first fill on Monday.  Hoping I am one of those who don't mind how it feels :)

    Cheers,
    Lilah

  • Kayel
    Kayel Member Posts: 28
    edited December 2009

    Jenn~ Congrats on finishing your last treatment!!  Enjoy the break before rads.  I agree that we will need to find a new normal.  I want my before bc life back.  I feel like I have handled this well and remained positiive but I am just so tired now and really looking forward to getting treatment over with.

    We are having a huge snowstorm today in Maryland.  It is so beautiful!!  We will actually have a white Christmas this year.    I was going to bake all day but I only got one batch of cookies done.  My kids had a ball playing in the snow but I did not have enough energy to play with them.  I hope I have enough energy to do Christmas Dinner for 14.  Is anyone else cooking this year?

    Donna, Navy Mom, and Lilah ~  I hope that you get all good news

    YoYo~Good luck with the next round of chemo

    Patty~  Halfway, woo hoo!!!!!!!!!

    Enjoy the rest of the weekend.

    Kaye

  • jenn3
    jenn3 Member Posts: 3,316
    edited December 2009

    Good morning - yesterday I helped my daughter bake and decorate cookies for a cookie bake party she was going to, did some wrapping and then watched my Saints play a terrible game and take their 1st loss of the season........... Before Taxol pains start today I'm hoping to finish up with the wrapping and get some baking done for gift baskets so that I can get the house cleaned, then relax and enjoy Christmas.

    Kayel- I normally host all of our family gatherings for holidays and various BBQ's, but hosted Thanksgiving for 20 and decided it was too much.  So................for Christmas I am doing brunch for just my DH, DD's, DM and DS.  My cousin offered to do lunch the next day for the rest of the family on my side and we see my DH's family at a big Christmas Eve party they have each year.  I'll still have cooking to do, but not as much and it won't be at my house - I need the break.  I've been watching the weather and it sure is snowing on the East Coast.  Not that the snow we get here is anything like you have, but a few years ago we had snow come through Christmas Day, it was beautiful - and fun!!!  Good luck with the baking - do a batch, rest, another batch, rest and it'll eventually get done.

    Lilah - Another middle of the night friend................. I just can't sleep on steroids nights, which are finally over!!!! Whoo Hoo!!!  Now when I'm up I'll have to use another excuse, too much coffee or chocolate.  Sorry your having those nerve pains. I would imagine you could get your path results before January.  If your BS doesn't have them, what about calling the onc?  Good luck with the first fill.  I'm learning from you............

    Off to read the morning paper and have some coffee.  Then .............. let the baking begin.

  • Lilah
    Lilah Member Posts: 4,898
    edited December 2009

    Good idea, Jenn, to call ONC if the BS doesn't have the results.  I have a feeling the BS will though.  I see her on Tuesday. 

    Yeah I was a night owl long before steroids :) 

    Less pain today -- just soreness -- all of it is exceedingly bearable though (especially because I know none of it will last forever).  I can grin and bear it til exchange if I have to.  Already looking forward to that though (lol)!

    Cheers,

    Lilah

  • jenn3
    jenn3 Member Posts: 3,316
    edited December 2009

    Good morning - woke up with my mind racing.  Christmas is Friday and there is still stuff to do.  I am normally much more organized and just don't feel like I have it together this year. Ugh!!!  I'm sure when I'm finally finished baking and cleaning by the end of today I'll feel much better, but I hate coming down to the wire like this.  Oh well.......... it'll either get done or not.  Luckily I'm not hosting Christmas this year so if there is some undone housework it really won't matter.  I'm hoping to get convince my DH and DD to go looking at lights tomorrow or Wednesday.  

    Lilah - Glad to hear the pain is less, but sorry you're still having pain.  When all is said and done the new boobs are going to look great.

  • Reni
    Reni Member Posts: 81
    edited December 2009

    Jenn3 - COngrats on finishing!! It feels great doesnt it Smile

    To those who are still there.... stay strong... it'll be over soon!

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