November 2009-Starting Chemo
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Alicia - Good luck tomorrow! I will be thinking about you and praying that all goes well.
Brenda - My next and LAST tx is 12/31...what a great way to end the year. I am glad to get it over with but not looking forward to seven weeks of radiation....
I feel like crap already which is unusual for me on day #2 post tx. It usually holds off until day 4 but I might have overdone it this weekend. Oh well, one would think I would be use to exhaustion and bone pain by now
Hope you all have a nice start to the week with no major SE's!
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Good luck to you ladies having a TX tomorrow...
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Last night I went to a friend's dinner party ... I'm so glad I didn't end up having my treatment last week (because of low WBC count) as I enjoyed myself so much and ate like a horse! I wore my wig and felt totally obvious, but since only half of the guests knew me and about my "predicament", I think I got away with it. A few of the children that were there know that I've lost my hair and didn't know what to make of my 'new hairstyle'. The looks on their faces when they saw me were priceless, and I promised I'd let them see my head after dinner. During dinner, I ended up sitting next to a woman who, as it turns out, is a breast cancer research scientist specializing in the BCRA1 and 2 genes. (I've been tested for these genes as both my sisters have had BC, but we won't know the results for almost a year.) Anyway, it made for very interesting conversation and she had some very interesting things to say about chemo drugs, how they've gotten so much better over the years, and the breakthrough discovery of herceptin and how its changed the course of treatment for women who are Her2 +. After dinner, once most of the guests left and it was down to just my close group of friends, I took off the wig and went au naturel. It was so liberating and so much more comfortable. I have one male friend who has been bald ever since I've known him, we put the wig on him - and I swear I haven't laughed that hard for months. The whole lot of us, plus all the kids were howling... with him dancing around, flipping his hair around like a rock star. What a great night! We didn't get home til 2am and I've been paying the price all day today - but it was so worth it.
I'm gearing up for treatment # 2 on Wednesday - going to try to get all my Christmas shopping and errands done before then. The kids are so excited about Santa coming... hopefully the SE will be totally gone by the 25th.
Stay strong and take care of yourselves!
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My DH and son (I have 3 sons too
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Thursday is my next tx (takes about 4 hrs) and my personal deadline to be ready for Christmas.
Good luck to everyone this week!
Becca
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Thanks for the good wishes today. My kids were feeling nervous last night about going to school. I am not here when they get home as my time is 2 pm until I change to Taxol then I am in the am. They asked if they could stay home from school and spend the day with me till I have to go. I LET THEM. They have not missed a day yet. And I was afraid they would be sad in school. We are in our pj's relaxing for now.
Mabelle ~ sounds like that Christmas party was just what you needed. I am glad your WBC gavve you a reprive so you could attend and enjoy yourself.
Becca ~ Good Luck getting ready for Christmas by Thursday. Today was my deadline, it didn't happen I still need to get 1 good trip into the stores.
Toyah ~ sorry you are feeling bad already. It tends to happen with each treatment a bit sooner and a bit longer lasting sometimes. At least it has for me. I hope you feel better really soon. Sorry your Dallas Cowboys lost (i was thrilled) But then my Giants crashed and burned as well... ugh !!!
Have a good day girls ~ Treament #4 today ~ last AC.
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Ah, here we go....another week. Another dozen medications going in like a lamb and coming out like a lion. Plus my hair is on schedule to go down the drain. My son says "don't call it hair and you won't be so attached to it. Call it "clairol-drenched dead nerve endings". Looking at it that way he thinks I'll be happy to see it go.
3rd TX is tomorrow already and my daughter is going with me this time instead of my son. He is so nervous. I heard him in the other room, preparing my daughter for the day, quizzing her and sounding like a drill sergeant:
"Remember to stand on her right side at first, and before you let them touch her port, tell them what happened last time. Make sure there is forcefulness in your voice!"
"Read the labels on the stuff they are giving her. They usually get the Decadron right but make sure they give her only TAXOL. They will tell you that you are wrong and they will look at their paperwork and show it to you. If it doesn't say TAXOL, tell them that it's wrong and stand your ground. You might have to put your hand over her port and threaten to call the police".
"If that nurse who looks like Robin Williams comes around, don't make conversation because she'll never shut up, and she'll touch mom's face with her germy hands. She's trying to be nice but think of her as a germ-spreading dirt machine and avoid at all costs".
"Ask for a printout of her blood draw and bring it home for me. Check at the top to make sure that mom's name is on the top, last time they tried to give me some DUDE's paperwork. A dude named George. I said to them, ' DOES SHE LOOK LIKE A GEORGE to you???".
Oh my kids, bless their hearts, they shouldn't have to be worrying about all this. Wish I could just send them away to a tropic island for a year and be healthy-mom again when they return. On the other hand, it's so comforting to know that they are all grown up, can take charge, and are learning the ropes as it will, I'm sure, come in handy for them through the years. We older girls tend to be so trusting of anyone in the medical field and we don't question things enough. I am learning right along with my children. -
Shara ~ you sound like you have some really amazing kids there ! And I did chuckle reading your post so thanks for the laugh as well.
Good luck with #3 tomorrow. I hope all goes smoothly.
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Good Luck to the Warriors having their 4th TX Today~~~
ALICIA, OMARSMOM7, ANNAMARY1
Please be sure to DRINK, Drink, drink and eat, don't go hungry. Keep those side effects down.
Mommy2two,
I understand you girlfriend. I too am sick today. Took a ZOfran hoping it will work soon~~~BUT I'm scared I'll fall asleep at work. I hope they never schedule me for another Friday TX. I can't deal with it at work today. I've spent all morning on only 2 reports. Crazy. I can't even cope with this site this morning very well. I can't think nor spell worth a @=#% !!~~~~~This time around even with all the DRINKING of H2O I do and eating I can't shake this, my stomach is very upset and I'm dizzy (vertigo) as all get out. Talk about the FOG. Whoooooffffff~~~~~
I found out today they are sending me for a EchoCardiogram.I haven't had one as of yet. When I went to the oncologist's Friday, the Dr. on staff (not my onc, I never see him, go figure) Dr. Bandoli anyways he asked if I had one yet? I said ni. Then he asked how many TX's I was having, I said 8. He said Wow, your having 8 of these and havn't had a Echo yet? I said no sir!!! He said my regimin was very strong and my heart needed checking before I have a fouth. I'm thinking they should have alreday of done one on me. I asked about this a while back when I went for a check up with my Primary Care Physician and she said they probably did do a heart exam and I just didn't remember, because it was fairly standerd to do on a chemo patient.
SharaD,
Thanks for the laughs!!~~~~You certainly do know how to cheer us whimpy warriors up~~
BECCA,
So you have 3 sons also~~~ my boys are my heart~~do be sure to do some good thing for you and with them~~~we are allowed for sure~~my middle boy spent the last two weeks at our house trying to help rebuild my second bathroom~~this way they (all my kids and grandkids) can visit me more without the fear of them using MY bathroom.
I have to close, just don't feel up to typing even, sorry warriors
(((((HEALING HUGS)))))
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Shara, your kids sound amazing...lucky you to have someone fighting as hard as you are..
Brenda, I had an echo before chemo, just to check that my heart was still pumping.
Mabelle, your party sounds like so much fun. We have only live here for a couple of years and we still have not found other couples to hang out with....not at all like us..We have always been the party people..now i find it lonely here. I wish I could have been at your party, it sounds like so much fun. My daughter has tried on my wig over her long hair...It looked like a mullet...what a hoot.
Well I am off to the orthodontist with my son...yuck.
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micheleboots,
Doesn't this mean they should have had already done one on my as well?
Even my primary Dr. as i said thouht I was just not remembering having this done.
I know I was a blonde, but I usually remembver when I've had a medical test done.
Dang it today, I still feel like I have to PUKE!!~~ SORRY TMI ~~ All day today though gross!!~~
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Hello Ladies! Hope everyone is experiencing little to no SEs today.
Mommy2two - I hope you are feeling better today and that you are able to take it easy.
Brenda - I have had two ECHOs now. One before TX#1 and one before #3 because I am on the AC cocktail. #1 came out normal, but my onc. has another one done midway through to make sure my heart is handling it ok. Demand your ECHO!!
SharaD - So happy you have your kids by your side - they sound like amazing advocates and really on top of it. Although it is sad that mixups keep happening to you. Hope all goes well this time and that your dau. doesn't have to step in.
JustmeAlicia - hanging out having a lazy day bonding with the kids sounds heavenly. Good for you for taking a day with them in pjs.
BeccaS - Sending your all kinds of good shopping and decorating vibes for getting ready for Christmas. I hope it is full of joy and happiness. Nothing like retail therapy!
Mabelle - I loved your story of the dinner party. Just the light-hearted fun that we all need. Lovely friends, laughter and good memories. I don't think I will be getting out this season, but your story helped me live vicariously through you, so thank you.
HUGS to all.
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Hello Ladies! Hope everyone is experiencing little to no SEs today.
Mommy2two - I hope you are feeling better today and that you are able to take it easy.
Brenda - I have had two ECHOs now. One before TX#1 and one before #3 because I am on the AC cocktail. #1 came out normal, but my onc. has another one done midway through to make sure my heart is handling it ok. Demand your ECHO!!
SharaD - So happy you have your kids by your side - they sound like amazing advocates and really on top of it. Although it is sad that mixups keep happening to you. Hope all goes well this time and that your dau. doesn't have to step in.
JustmeAlicia - hanging out having a lazy day bonding with the kids sounds heavenly. Good for you for taking a day with them in pjs.
BeccaS - Sending your all kinds of good shopping and decorating vibes for getting ready for Christmas. I hope it is full of joy and happiness. Nothing like retail therapy!
Mabelle - I loved your story of the dinner party. Just the light-hearted fun that we all need. Lovely friends, laughter and good memories. I don't think I will be getting out this season, but your story helped me live vicariously through you, so thank you.
HUGS to all.
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Kyasou, I'd been saying I had needed one, I will get my first ECHO this Friday. I've already had 3 AC plus FU-5 TX's. I. Believe that is why the (Stand in Onc) was worried when he ha seen my onc never ordered one for me. And. Oh has my heart been just a pounding!
Toyah, HOPE you are feeling better than me today. I can't shake it this time. I'm going to bed right away this evening!. Chat tomorrow. ((((HUGS)))) -
HI girls ~ I am home from my #4 and last DD AC ~ woo HOO no more red devil for me. Next 4 treatments are Taxol. I feel ok, she told me to really not let myself get nauseous... to take the compazine or zofran. Last treatment I threw up on day 3, not FUN. Hoping everyone that had TX today is feeling good, as well as all of YOU having a SE free day.
Brenda ~ I had a Mugga scan of my heart before starting chemo. I would ask the dr.
OH... and I might need RADIATION... grrrr they are setting up an appt. Due to me having 2 tumors that together totalled 5 cms. It may be necessary, even though I had a bl max?! weird, but I'll do whatever I'm told to fight this beast.
I got poked twice, first time my vein blew out. ouch.
Hugs girls !
Alicia
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Was wondering if any of you has experienced bleeding a few days after your a/c treatment? My second a/c was two and 1/2 weeks ago...My period was due right around then..well 4 days later, it started was much heavier bleeding than my past year . (not in menopause yet, Im 49)....so I called my Onc she said that is normal, had my blood work all was well......WELL today Im spotting again , light but still there? I will call the Onc office in the am...Maybe my body is preparing for Menopause ??
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I have had my period 3 times on AC ~ it was a bit heavier then usual. I didn't call the dr, just figured it was normal. I think the chemo just really messes with our bodies. But, I would mention it to your onc office just to be sure all is ok.
Good luck.
Back to the couch for me ~
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Funny you should comment on the periods..I just finished my third one last week....then I started again this week..that makes four in three TX...what the hell happened to chemopause...I guess this is the way my body treats me...if it is not my long heavy period, then it is a yeast infection...and if I am going on vacation or away with my DH then for sure I will get something..so much for sex.
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Alicia: Congrats on finishing the AC Woo Hoo!!! Do they start the Taxol in two weeks? I hope that the Taxol is easier than the AC. I will be having rads too, but I still have that darn lymph node that glows. Sorry you have to do rads.
Cathy: I have only had one period on chemo and it was weird. No bleeding in between periods though.
SharaD: Good job raising those great kids!
I went out shopping commando today, the weather was nice so I was rockin my bad-ass baldness!
Hope everyone gets a good nights rest and an easy day tomorrow.
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I got a call this morning from the Cancer Agency - my appointment for treatment # 2 has been switched from Wednesday to tomorrow! So much for my last day of Christmas shopping!
Congrats Alicia - so glad you're done with AC! I still have 3 ACs to go - seems like I'll never be done. Sorry about the radiation. They're still up in the air on that for me. I'm really hoping I don't have to have radiation as it will postpone my reconstruction a further 6 months!!! I'm so ready to get rid of these f#%@! tissue expanders!
Brenda - I never had an echo... just a chest xray. Once I finish AC and start on the taxol, I've been told I'll have a mugga scan before every treatment.
I haven't had any periods since this all started, but I'm not holding my breath - yet. I'm a week overdue. A couple of women I've met said they're having very irregular periods during chemo - so it seems that anything and everything is "normal".
Shar - It never occurred to me to check that they were giving me the correct meds. From what I remember (first treatment was a bit of a blur) the chemo nurse went through the protocol with me in detail and it all SOUNDED right, but I didn't have my paperwork from my onc. with me. I think I'll pay closer attention this time around.
Michele - sorry you haven't met too many fun friends yet. I've lived in Vancouver my whole life so my network is pretty big. It would be hard to move to another city and lose that. I'm sure it will come - in the meantime, you've got all of us!!!
Wish me luck on tx # 2!
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I've had 2 chemo treatments so far and #3 is planned for Dec. 23rd. Today I had a follow-up visit with my surgeon (clip placement last week) and he says that my tumor has now shrunk from 3.5cm X 5cm DOWN to 1.5cm! So, what I'm wondering is...since it has shrunk and that's the point of chemo BEFORE surgery, does anyone think that my oncologist might let me just have these 3 chemo treatments and forget #4 in January since it's already doing what it's supposed to be doing? I'd love to have #3 then skip on to surgery & radiation. Getting this over would be good!
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Mabelle ~ I was told they sometimes do the exchange to implants prior to rads. They don't want to have the skin get compromised BEFORE ! This is why they are scheduling me to meet with radiation so we can be sure this all get scheduled properly. I was told my exchange was to be 6 weeks after my last chemo before this surprise maybe RADS. I'll keep you posted. I am also being BRCA testing waiting for them to set that up. I have no family history but being I am just 42 and have a daughter I am requesting it. I would like her to know if it is genetic so she can plan for it and be very aware.
Sherri ~ I think your 4 is normal protocol in your case. They really want that chemo do to it's job so you have the best outcome possible but I guess you can ask.
Have a good day girls. I am not feeling too awful yet with #4 yesterday. It usually kicks in by Thurs/Friday ! So I hope to chug along till then.
Hugs ~
Alicia
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Well, I'm just sitting here at work getting ready for #3 at 1 o'clock today. I think I've just fretted myself into a stomach ache. I'm ready to be done! My last AC is 12/29. I have a breast MRI on Jan 4 and set my appts for THZ on the 5th.
Alicia/Mabelle: I'm set to have 33 rad treatments after my spring surgery. I was told no implants for me, since rads can really mess up the skin. If I do have recon, it will be a TRAM flap procedure.
Brenda: I had an ECHO also. Same time as the PET/CT/Bone Scans. I feel like I glow in the dark anymore.
Sherri: Congrats on the shrinkage! That's what we all want to hear. Have they ordered any MRIs or anything? They just need to make sure the margins are clear and it's in a good location. Gotta make the surgeons job as easy as possible. Good luck!
I am just so ready for the spring. Warm air and sunshine. I tired of these foggy, dreary NC days. I'm just as gloomy as the weather today...Weep
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Cafelovr,
My heart aches for you as I understand the gloom and doom!~~~~~I MUST pull my self up from this FOG. Had my #3 Friday and I finally am starting to feel normal again. Just a lil bit of a headache, but the FOG is lifting. Good Vibes for you today!! (((FOG AWAY WISHES)))
SharaD,
I'm jealous of you with your children~~~~I wish mine could be by my side. No I really am happy for you, kids are the best!! Mine are just too far away. I had my son for two weeks and I already miss him. He only left Sunday, but already seems like forever. (((((CHILDRENS HUGS)))))
Alicia,What is the BRCA test for? I like you, the first couple of days I'm really good, SO I THINK. I think it is the steroids making me feel like superwomen. Careful though cuz I know I overdone it on Sat & Sun after TX. Yesterday was the worst ever I felt on day 3. My heart (my 36 yr. old son) was at my house and I just was so happy I overdid. I paid for it dearly yesterday. I had NO energy AT ALL. I was pukey all day as well. ((((Healing Hugs)))) to you
Sherri,SLV
I'll trade ya my 5 TX's for your 1 left. I can understand not wanting anymore however. I wish mine where over too. Then I still have to deal with radiation. I will glow for sure after a min. of 30 rads ~ AWESOME
on the shrinkage for you~~~~ ((((GLOWING LOVE)))))
Thanks everyonefor the advice on the ECHO. I will ask WHY I never received one before. BUT better late than never seeing I still have 5 more (AC) plus(FU-5) to go. So they will have a comparison for later on at least. My heart has actually been a little racier the last two days. I feel almost like I'm Anxious all the time. (((((Appreciative Hugs)))))
I better get to checking on my rooster and TX's for the day~~~~
To all the "Warriors" Have a restful day!!~~~ ((((HUGS & LOVE))))) Brenda
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Brenda ~ The BRCA test is a genetic blood test they do. To see if I carry a gene for BREAST cancer, if so that makes my daughter most likely a carrier as well. She will have the answers and be able to get tested and make a decision if she wanted to before she ever GETS breast cancer. God just the thought sickens me... Not my child !
Cafe ~ Good luck with # 3 today. Hoping all goes smoothly. I already have tissue expanders in place so not sure what to expect with the radiation. Either way eventually I will hopefully have the switch to permanent implants either before or after rads. IF I need them for sure. ugh.... so overwhelming.
Wishing everyone a SE free day. and Smooth TREATMENT day for those receiving it.
Alicia
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Melinda, way to go girl...run topless and free.
Cafelover, oh I hate the fog...it kind of depresses me...I must have that SAD disorder...I find I get lazy and tired on foggy gloomy days. Good luck with #3..
Sherri...yippy for your shrinkage...
A great day to all..
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Sherri I also did chemo neoadjuvant to shrink my tumor. I was told that when we started chemo, if there was significant shrinkage, we could do surgery part way through and finish the rest after surgery. Although the immediate goal in your case, (chemo first) is to shrink the tumor down to a size that is lumpectomy friendly, the real purpose of chemo is to zap any of those stray cancer cells that may be floating around your body.
Alicia I am curious, why do they say you need rads after a bilat MX ? I went through lump. and reincision, without clear margins and have since had a bilat also. My BS put it infront of the " tumor board" to ask their advice on whether I indeed needed radiation. They came back with a you should CONSULT with a radiation oncologist. I meet with her next week. As my PS said, they will indeed tell you that " it could help". I'm definitely not sold on that idea. If I land in a gray area, it ain't happening !! I would suppose it depends on your pathology, node involvement and how close to the chest wall your tumor was.
Brenda Sharon You do such a great job with this thread!! thanks
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ALICIA
DORO NETTE
MOUSSE
To each of you CONGRATS ON #4 TX each done with the (AC)
Now on to the Taxol & Taxotore TX's. I will give smiles for these as well, as they are still TX's in my little Blondie brain. Also, drop me a PM if I get your dates in correct, Thanks in advance.
littlebird - # 2 TX down, means your 1/2 way done, I wish you good vibes and warm thoughts everything goes smooth for you today. I know you have your children to take care of you~
~~~THANK the Lord our children ~~~((((((((((2-A-NO-PROB-TX))))))))))
BOXERSUE - I hope the head cooperates with you this time~~
#3 TX, I wish for you a HEADACHE FREEday for the next several days!!!!!!!!! Only one more 12/29 as you said Happy New Year!! Then on to Taxol X 12. I do believe from everything I've read the Taxol will be at least much easier on the head. I know that means a lot to you with the migraines you have. I never experienced a headache like this until Cytoxan!!~~
(((((2-NO-HEADACHES)))))
Ya know I was reading back on your post of being married 29 years. That is how long me & my DH have been married as well. We are stupendously happy with each other, always been and hope always to be. One thing I regretted is that we had NO Children together. My 3 sons are from a previous marriage of 10 years that went totally sour (to say the least). My DH of 29 years has proved without a doubt to be a fantastic father and it hurts sometimes I couldn't give him one of his own. of course my kids and grandkids say there is no one like POPS (that's what they call him) the grandkids call him granpa It was years before the grandkids even knew he wasn't really the biological grandfather and not they ever cared or thought about it and now they realize their is a biological and know him as well, but they say there isn't anyone like granpa. It makes him feel SO good!!~~~~YET, sometimes I still wish I could have~~~I know one thing he has been my rock for 29 years and NOW even more than ever~~ I am so blessed with my husband!
((((((((((2-R-DH's))))))))))
To all "Warriors" a uneventful day of side effects
Totally full of ((((((((((LOVE & HUGS)))))))))
P.S. NY DEB, Thanks,
I couldn't do what I do without all of you. If not for this site I may have lost it. This has helped me keep my sanity. I'm sad to see how many of us "Warriors" on on board. BUT, Life is GOOD and we are battling like "Princess Warriors"
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Happy Tuesday! I'm up and enjoying my delicious veggie juice with juicy bits of shiny hubcap. My toast went down very well this morning, I am using the calcium enriched butter spread on it and it's delightful, I can almost taste the calcium in it...(or is that iron and steel and RUSTY NAILS that I am tasting?)
Right now I'm trying to decide on an outfit to wear for my afternoon Taxol. It's at 3pm so I'm hoping they have a happy hour. Maybe I'll get a two for one deal on the Decadron and the Zofran.
I've got a sleek little black cocktail number that one of the security guards always enjoys. I was thinking of wearing that with my new heels. But because of the color, if my hair starts to drop today it'll be very noticeable. Plus I don't know if I should wear these new heels if I can't even feel my feet. I'm leaning more towards a beige sundress instead, I'm thinking I could breeze into the joint with a parasol and really be NOTICED. Like a grand entrance.
Aw, what the hell, I think I'll just go in this damn housecoat. Barefoot. Might not even take a shower beforehand since even the shower water, which I don't get in my mouth, somehow tastes like an old hammer these days.
I'll check in with y'all tomorrow to let you know how things go....hopefully they don't send me to the wrong wing of the hospital where I end up getting a kidney transplant by mistake. Because I'd hate for the real kidney transplant patient to have to get my Taxol. I'm sure she's got enuff problems without having to worry about peeing flames from the depths of hell. -
NYDeb ~ because I had two tumors totaling 5 cms and they say they cannot get every bit of tissue out on a mast. I am up in the air for RADS. I had no node involvement. It is not a definate they are sending me for a consult to Radiation. I so hope I don't need it, but if they feel it is to my benefit I guess bring it on.
Hugs girls, I just came from getting Neulasta shot I am too tired to write more.
Alicia
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SharaD,
First time I almost puked
after reading a POST!!! (only the first part)
The calcium butter thingy done it. I eat toast almost evey morning,noon and night!
I tell you my tummy is just not right after that 3rd TX.
I've got to get with the program.
Thanks for the chuckles with the rest~you are a Whoot!
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