Censoring the Suzanne Somers Discussion

anondenet
anondenet Member Posts: 715
edited June 2014 in Complementary and Holistic Medicine and Treatment

I was disappointed to see that the Suzanne Somers discussion thread was censored by breastcancer.org and deleted. A lot of us have have read Somers' books and are investigating the protocols of the doctors she interviews.

I'm sure the media will be interested in knowing that Somers' contribution to thinking on cancer is so powerful and threatening to the status quo that it was banned by the moderators.

To be continued...

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  • fairy49
    fairy49 Member Posts: 1,245
    edited December 2009

    right here with you sister!! I was very disappointed to see it censored, by some foot stamping people who hadn't even read the books! Thank you for making our voices heard! AND what a great idea regarding the media.

    L

    ox

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  • deni63
    deni63 Member Posts: 601
    edited December 2009

    I agree that the thread should not have been deleted. There are those of us here who are interested in sharing ideas and thoughts about, among other things, her books. And, for the entire thread to be deleted as a result of a few who come along with nasty comments and have not or never intend to read any of the books is just unfair to the rest of us!

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2009

    I received my copy of Knockout yesterday and.decided it was best to read with a highlighter and post-its on hand because the information is too vailuble to pass over.

    Anom, I hope the deletion of the thread was a misunderstanding and not actual censorship. I attended lectures where some of the Docs she interviewed spoke. Someone has some explaining to do. When did we become so afraid words?

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  • rreynolds1
    rreynolds1 Member Posts: 450
    edited December 2009

    I'm horrified that it was deleted.  If we could all be cured by conventional methods there would be no need to look at alternative methods.  The alternative thread has been policed by survivors who don't believe in alternative methods.  How sad.  I am open to anything that can be beneficial to anyone with this terrible disease.  Fungus and penicillin... let's not allow this discussion....oh yea it cured lots of people.  Shame on us for censuring anything that could possible save lives.

    Roseann

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  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 9,430
    edited December 2009

    Was it deleted due to content or tone?  I'd stopped reading it after awhile b'cuz some anti natural healing voices were so hostile and prejudicial that it was unpleasant to read it.  But was it deleted due to the antagonistic tone, or does BCO object to a discussion of SS's views?  I'm assuming it was the tone, but I'd like to know.

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2009

    Hmmm.....

    Amendment I
    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

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  • anondenet
    anondenet Member Posts: 715
    edited December 2009

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    D, If the tone of some messages was hostile than the org could do what they occasionally do --delete the specific posts. But the org chose to delete the entire discussion.

    The censorship of an entire thread is like book burning.

    We are old enough to take care of ourselves and excercise what efflorescing pointed out is our free speech.

    >

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  • fairy49
    fairy49 Member Posts: 1,245
    edited December 2009

    why even have a "discussion" board if we are not free to "discuss"? Seems like its ok if you follow protocol to say whatever you want, however if you step outside the box, its deemed incorrect.  Imagine this, I pop over to the hormone thread, and ridicule everyone taking tamox or an AL? would I EVER dream of doing that?? NEVER! I am friggin steamed right now.

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  • deni63
    deni63 Member Posts: 601
    edited December 2009

    How is something deleted? Does it just disappear or do they notify the originator, in this case Anom, that there is something being deemed "inappropriate" and is therefore being deleted? I would have to assume also that someone complained, or more than one complained and therefore the thread was deleted.

    So true Fairy imagine that we went over to some of the "conventional" threads and started chiming in about all of the dangers of chemo, radiation, etc. It just doesn't happen because we are not looking to instigate. Seems like a huge double standard!

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2009

    Yes Anom, that is exactly what I thought. High Tech Book Burning. Has anyone contacted the moderators for an explanation?

    So true Fairy. And what if I encouraged every women on the boards to stop posting their stats which would put a stop to having  our Dx's and treatments monitored annonymously? I wonder if that would cause a stir?

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2009

    I just saw this under "active topics."  I haven't participated in the Suzanne Sommers thread, but I just wanted to say how sorry I am that your thread got deleted.  The sad part is I'm sure you guys had some important things on here that you were discussing.

    I can't understand for the life of me why people who disagree with a topic cannot jus stay away.  I'm just baffled by this.  If they mistakenly read a the thread and do not like it...leave.  Like...turn the station!

    Shirley

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  • anondenet
    anondenet Member Posts: 715
    edited December 2009

    Deni, somebody PMed me that the thread had vanished. I had been off the computer and came home to find the PM and was incredulous.

    Nobody ever notified me as the originator of the thread. I gather a breastcancer.org moderator sympathetic with the non-reading, anti-Somers trolls has the discretion to delete whatever she wants.

    Can you imagine if any of us were rude enough to repeatedly go over to the pro-conventional forums and told them they were full of crap?  They would never shut down the thread. We would be banned as trolls.

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  • Kathy044
    Kathy044 Member Posts: 433
    edited December 2009

    Somers suggests estrogen therapy prevents cancer, [read her books] imo that is dangerous advice. I would have like to be allowed to discuss this, but apparently this is not the sort of thing one is allowed to say on this forum. How about dissing "Big Pharma"  Is that ok? From the weekend NYTs.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/13/business/13drug.html?_r=1&ref=health

    Suzanne Somers is mentioned.

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  • vivre
    vivre Member Posts: 2,167
    edited December 2009

    You are so right everyone. Heck we are trolls on our own threads, according to some people. I am sure there are those who are cheering right now that SS is gone. But we know the truth. She has given us a lot of valuable information that will save our lives. Just think about how brave she is that she does not give up, even though she has had death threats and is ridiculed. Too many people see her as the character she played and not as a woman who is trying to stay alive, just as we all are. SS doesn't quit, so neither should we.

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2010

    Kathy044,

    Please refer to actual passages so we can see the context.

    thanks

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  • deni63
    deni63 Member Posts: 601
    edited December 2009

    That NY Times article posted above is actually quite scary. It is exactly what will happen with mammograms over the next few years. The hormone story they mention goes like this:

    1 - protective against all of your menopausal ails

    2 - prescriptions, prescriptions, prescriptions

    3 - people start dying of breast and endometrial cancers

    4 - cover ups and court cases

    And finally - synthetic hormones are deemed unsafe!

    Same now with mammos. It's all about the $$$...

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  • Natada
    Natada Member Posts: 43
    edited December 2009

    Maybe the moderators were smart enough to figure out that some people were posting under two separate log on names.  I did find the post interesting until I figured that out, especially since the two people keep posting about one site that happens to sell a supplement that the two people ( who are really one ) promote.  Reportedly at a non-profit, but I wouls seriously question that non-profit business now.....

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  • CrunchyPoodleMama
    CrunchyPoodleMama Member Posts: 1,220
    edited December 2009

    WHAT?!! I remember seeing someone post a couple of times on that thread that the whole thread should be deleted... perhaps that person might know why this invaluable thread was deleted??

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  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 9,430
    edited December 2009
    Anom ~  I'm not so sure your thread has been deleted.  I just searched "ss book" and came up with a thread you'd started entitled Knockout -- Suzanne Somers Has A New Book.  I know there were two pretty active threads about SS, and I'm wondering if it's the other one that's been deleted, if one actually has...   Deanna
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  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 9,430
    edited December 2009
    Okay... the other one is entitled, Suzanne Somers Changed Her Diagnosis, and it's still active, too.  I found it be searching "Larry King."  If there was a third one, I missed it entirely!
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  • Teild
    Teild Member Posts: 58
    edited December 2009

    I never read the book.  Wouldn't waste my time.  Why would the opinion of a nobody like Somers interest me?  If she wrote an insiders book about three's company, I might feel differently.  I guess I don't understand why people actually take these know nothing has-beens seriously.  All Somers is about is generating controversy to sell her books . ., I'm amazed she has been given the press time she has been given.

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  • CrunchyPoodleMama
    CrunchyPoodleMama Member Posts: 1,220
    edited December 2009

    Deanna, there was another one (a quite long one) that is no longer here... I had a few posts within it and they're no longer showing up on my post history.

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  • AnnNYC
    AnnNYC Member Posts: 4,484
    edited December 2009

    I don't think there's censorship regarding SS.  I think the Mods don't like to see nastiness aimed at people who have expressed an opinion in a civil manner.

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  • CrunchyPoodleMama
    CrunchyPoodleMama Member Posts: 1,220
    edited December 2009

    I think the Mods don't like to see nastiness aimed at people who have expressed an opinion in a civil manner.

    But wouldn't it make sense to ban only the offending posts and allow the intelligent, civil discussion to remain?

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  • vivre
    vivre Member Posts: 2,167
    edited December 2009

    Natada-who are you referrring to that is the same person with 2 names? I do not remember anyone promoting a site on thread. What site is that?

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  • AnnNYC
    AnnNYC Member Posts: 4,484
    edited December 2009

    But wouldn't it make sense to ban only the offending posts and allow the intelligent, civil discussion to remain?

    That hasn't happened in the past -- long threads with many intelligent, civil informative comments have been erased (in other forums) because there were very nasty comments among them.  I've lost comments that I put a lot of effort into, that I thought were intelligent and civil.  It hurts, but it has happened repeatedly -- I'm just saying, the Mods mean business about keeping a civil tone toward other posters.

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  • Natada
    Natada Member Posts: 43
    edited December 2009

    Actually, you reminded me of soemthing and it is more like 3 names, plus I know this posters real name.  I will not mention it here but have decided to contact the moderators.

    You never know who is at the other side of a computer, do you?

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  • Oneworker
    Oneworker Member Posts: 21
    edited December 2009

    Natada, revealing someone's real name is a violation of the Terms of Service. You would likely have your account revoked if you did this.

    What a silly thread. It's like the paranoia about "big pharma" has spread.

    The sky is falling, the sky is falling. They're censoring us! 

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  • Oneworker
    Oneworker Member Posts: 21
    edited December 2009

    Efflorescing, here's a clue: Congress did not make a law restricting the freedom of speech.

    No one's freedom of speech has been violated. Even if the thread had been closed, it's not your RIGHT to post here. It's a privilege granted by the web site's owners.

    If you want to voice approval of Suzanne Somers, start your own web site and enjoy your freedom of speech all you want.

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  • RunswithScissors
    RunswithScissors Member Posts: 323
    edited December 2009

    Maybe SS asked them to remove the thread - if there were libelous posts on there, that might explain it.

    I'm also thinking that a long thread is most likely to be deleted entirely because it would take forever to sift  through the whole thing... 

    Please don't get me wrong, I truly understand how upsetting it is to have wasted  your time and effort.    

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