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jodiel1 Member Posts: 51
need to talk to somebody about tripple negative

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  • jodiel1
    jodiel1 Member Posts: 51
    edited November 2009

    hello,

    i found out today my mum is tripple negative. she had surgery in september and starts chemo next week. It`s so scarey reading all the stuff on tripple negative breast cancer.

    i just wanted to talk to someone who is tripple neg, is it as bad as it seems? i read somewhere chemo is more effective for tripple negs?

  • ddlatt
    ddlatt Member Posts: 448
    edited November 2009

    Yes, chemo is said to be more effective with triple negative breast cancer. Have you read the info on the Triple Negative Foundation website? www.trbcfoundation.org  If you need someone to talk to, I am always available at deborah.lattimore@gmail.com  I am also triple negative. I was terrified also when I heard that I was triple negative, but really there are pros and cons. You are a good daughter to be doing this research!

  • jodiel1
    jodiel1 Member Posts: 51
    edited November 2009

    Thankyou for your reply, i will have a look on this website.

    We are really close, she is 42 and i am 24 with two small children 1 and 3. I feel like i want to understand it all so i can deal with it better. She was diagnosed in aug but she never asked a lot of questions, so i would always read up about everything then when she got a bit more info i could look it back up. I had read a lot of threads from people that are tn and wondered if my mum was but never really thought any more about it. She went to see the oncologst for the first time yesterday and he told her she was tn. I thought that with tn you would you usually have chemo first?

    At first i was really worried all the time and then i tried to be more possitve and get on with my life. Now i feel like im back to square one worrieng about it all the time. i no time probably does  make things easier but i read that you are more likely to have a reccurance with tn and with it being so aggerssive that scares me. i have got people i can talk to but no one that actually understands or even knows that tripple negative even exsists.

    sorry for going on obviosly you have got you own worries x x

  • Zipmum
    Zipmum Member Posts: 16
    edited November 2009

    Sorry to hear about your mum. I have three kids ages 19, 17 and 11. I was diagnosed in Aug 09 with TNBC.  I had a lumpectomy in Sep 09.  At first I did not understand what triple negative was but I did a lot of research and spoke to quite a few people.  I am with a team at the John Hopkins Breast Cancer Center.  Their recommendation was chemo and radiation.  I had the dr's run stats on survival rates based on treatment.  I was very worried about what would happen to my family after reading information on the web.  I have come to realize that I am not a statistic and the triple negative status is not a death sentence.  I am working on changing my lifestyle particularly eating.  I am trying to move to a low fat diet and I am also more exercise.  I hope that you will have good news soon and your mum will start to feel better.

  • jodiel1
    jodiel1 Member Posts: 51
    edited November 2009

    thank you for your reply.I just wondered if there was any foods which you usually try to avoid or recomened? x

  • Zipmum
    Zipmum Member Posts: 16
    edited December 2009

    Jodie, I just noticed that you are from the UK.  I am from Birmingham... or should I say Brum.  My understanding so far is that a low fat diet and exercise helps TNBC patients.  I will send you websites as I find them.  I hope your mum is feeling a bit better now.  Keeping you and your mum in my prayers.

    A Birmingham sister with TNBC

  • jodiel1
    jodiel1 Member Posts: 51
    edited December 2009

    hello, yes i am from ashford in kent.

    mum starts her chemo anyday now! think she said she`s having 4 fec and 2-4 T, not sure of the proper name. Have you started you chemo yet? x

  • bf2009
    bf2009 Member Posts: 40
    edited December 2009

    Jodie I had my first chemo today and I don't feel bad. I could have drove myself home, no problem. I guess it gets bad usually during the first 3 to 4  days after chemo, but they should give you meds to help cover that time which is usually the worst.

    When I had it today... it didn't bother me at all. I felt fine, no vomiting, nausea or heacache.

    I realize this may wear off and I'll be feeling sick later but I wanted you to know when I had chemo, it was not as bad as I thought it would be.

    Far as triple negative diagnosis, I have that too. It is very disturbing to read the info online, as the rates for reoccurance, even if cured are quite high ( to brain and organs).. and I ahare you fears as it seems quite bad to me too.

    People tell me to "think postive" but I find it hard to do with all the info I read online about it. I want to think I can beat this but I can't really control what the cancer will do and it also may turn out the chemo does not shrink the tumor, which will mean even less options, so all I can do is say "I HOPE" the chemo will shrink this tumor and the radiation will further kill any sign of it so I can get well again and regain some sight of my future, one without constant testing, chemo and all this....

    I may be mistaken but from what I can tell, not only is this a long process to get "cured" you don't actually get "cured", what you do is learn to manage as life never goes back to how it was because of the high possibility of mets with TNBC.

    I would sure like to see the numbers and have been looking online as to what the 10- 15 or 20 year survival rates are for TNBC, but I'm not able to find much, most likely because TNBC diagnosis has only been around since I think 2003 or 2004?

    To me, I feel I've been given a death sentence, even worse, a long, slow painful death over many eyars,  got some tough things to overcome and many not even within my control. I have changed my diet DRASTICALLY, going organic, went to all natural products, change deoderant to one of those salt rocks, cut out all fast food/ soda/ anything artifical, diet down to 5-10% fat each day and loading up on rice and more so VEGGIES ! Lots of veggies !!!

    I'm going to work on the attitude as extreme hope-fullness doesn't come naturally to me, I'm a realist !!!

    so I share you fears... what you can do is the diet changes ( something in your control) and think too about shaving your head before chemo and getting your wig/ hat/ scarf thing going as I did that and it was a good thing ( gives you some sense of control).

    I think the fear you have is the same as I have and everyone else who has been diagnosed with breast cancer or any cancer, is that it will come back and make us not be in control of ourselves

    brain cancer scares me the most, to lose your cognoitive abilities and become a huge burden on others....

    and that is a scary thing, maybe the scariest !

  • Titan
    Titan Member Posts: 2,956
    edited December 2009

    I think that you shouldn't worry so much about the statistics so much...I an Triple N also but I'm not freaking..anymore..I have a co-worker that is TN...6 years ago..and she is doing awesome...maybe TRIPLE neg have a higher rate of reocurrence during the first couple of years but after that it goes down dramatically...just be very agressive with your treatments and try not to freak so much..really.

    Reoccurence can happen to any type of breast cancer...sorry to say...some of it depends on your path report...node involvement for instance...

  • unklezwifeonty
    unklezwifeonty Member Posts: 1,710
    edited December 2009

    Jodie,

    I'm also Triple Negative. You are a good daughter to be researching this for your mom. Some doctors prefer to do chemo first and some do surgery first. Historically, surgery is the first line of attack. Mostly chemo is done first when the tumor is too large and they want to shrink it down before surgery OR they are not sure that the tumor is operable OR the doctor/patient wants to see the effect of chemo on their tumor OR clinical trial OR doctor preference, etc.

    FEC-->T chemo is very effective. I believe it is UK's most aggressive chemo regimen. Here in the US they usually give AC-->T. And yea, triple negative tumors are usually grade 3 which respond very well to chemo.

    Some web resources to look at:

    1. www.tnbcfoundation.org
    2. the triple negative forum on www.breastcancer.org

    Good luck and keep us posted.

  • bf2009
    bf2009 Member Posts: 40
    edited December 2009

    Jodie, another thing, I just ordered some CD's on postive thinking and also TOUGH MINDEDness,,, because I feel so scared sometimes, as if I have no control over my life anymore, the cancer does. It will surely not hurt to be calmer through all this, no matter what happens !!!

    Sure I could get xananx from the doctor and deal with it that way, but I think it would help to

    take the xanax only once in awhile ( for anxiety) and be able to mentally deal with this better.

    Personally I don't think the positive thinking CD will help because as I said, I'm a realist and

    denial through sugar coating things has never worked for me as I'm a realist. The best I can hope for, I think is COURAGE !!! When I start to think about whats happened in the last month, I tend to get freaked out, which helps nothing.

    So, you may want to check the online shopping sites for CD's about the topics

    POSITIVE THINKING

    and

    TOUGH MINDEDNESS....

    there is so much out there, find something that appeals to you.. I believe even public libraries carry CD tapes and books on tape on those subjects ( free to use) as so much of this THAT IS UNDER OUR CONTROL, are the emotional / mental aspects of dealing with this situation, as so little is under our control, this is something we can do too, besides changing diet, prayer, reducing stress when possible. The more we stay calm and do what we can and what is in our ability to control, the calmer we will be so we can make GOOD choices and KEEP RATIONALE with clear thinking.

  • jodiel1
    jodiel1 Member Posts: 51
    edited December 2009

    thankyou for all your feed back.

    my mums starts her 1st chemo next week she got a call today from the hospital.

    It is so hard to carry on with you life when you are worried so much. Its not even happened to me but it has affected my life so much.

    Do you think the survival rates for tn`s are lower because it was only found out about recently? i suppose they have not got a lot of evidence to look back on?

    Also  just because its say`s there is more chance of a relapse dosen`t mean in all case`s there will be does it? i saw somewhere that there is 15-20% more chance of reacurance than other types of breast cancer.

  • unklezwifeonty
    unklezwifeonty Member Posts: 1,710
    edited December 2009

    Jodie,

    TNBC responds better to chemo than other BC's. Recurrence rates are higher than other BC's in first 3 years but not after that.

  • jodiel1
    jodiel1 Member Posts: 51
    edited December 2009

    ok so i suppose there really are pros and cons. thanks its nice to be reasurred.

  • Duffymom
    Duffymom Member Posts: 179
    edited December 2009

    I was 1st diagnosed with TNBC July '06, stage IIIB.  4 chemo, bilateral mast., 4 more chemo, 30 rads.  Cancer free for 1 1/2 years.  Oct. '08 diagnosed stage IV - no organs, mostly bones.  I've been on monthly chemo since then and last scan in Sept showed I'm stable. Next scan Dec 10 and I hope I continue to get good news. Triple neg is very difficult to handle mentally.  I feel and act normal - you'd never know I have cancer, but I'm always worrying about the future. 

    Prayers for you and your mum! I'm always available if you have any ?'s.

    Kathy

  • JDHW1968
    JDHW1968 Member Posts: 1
    edited December 2009

    I was diagnosed with TNBC in April 2009, Stage 2, 0/nodes, have 2 more chemo treatments.  This has been the scariest experience of my life, but I try to think positive and keep busy.  Some days are more challenging than others, but I keep telling myself that I will beat this cancer and get my life back.  I think the most difficult challenge is not knowing, not having a road map of what's to come, as BC is a mystery.  My onc tells me that everything is going great, I am cancer free, and trust me, I am grateful and Thank God, but sometimes the mystery takes over, I start to think about what if it comes back.  Fear has it's way!!  But I refuse to let it win. 

    Stay positive and do whatever is necessary to live, follow your treatment teams recommendations.  God Bless!!!

  • LNFletch
    LNFletch Member Posts: 28
    edited December 2009

    I was diagnosed with TNBC September 2009. I started with chemo in October and after the second treatment, my oncologist did an exam and found the tumor was smaller. I went in for a breast MRI and found the tumor shrank from 3.3 cm to 1.4 cm. I finished the AC part of my chemo and again had another exam . This time, my oncologist couldn't feel the tumor. He gave me the option of having surgery early or continuing with chemo. I didn't have this confirmed by another MRI, but I had exams by three other doctors and they couldn't feel the tumor either.I'm having surgery, which is scheduled for  December 14, because I have two small children, one with special needs and we have a lot of help now, so I thought I'd get the surgery while the help is here. Chemo for me was a little difficult, had quite a bit of nausea for 4 days, but felt great after that time passed. I have stopped reading information on the internet. The statistics are scary and I know I am not a statistic.

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