Rash from Tamoxifen?

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joojoo
joojoo Member Posts: 1

Has anyone developed a serious rash after starting Tamoxifen? I did after 3 wks on it & my onco team seems a little clueless & blase about it. The medical literature seems to largely ignore rashes as side effect but I've found many forums where other women have complained of serious rashes. I'm not getting answers so thought I'd see for ymself how many others are experiencing same SE. Mine doesn't respond to any treatment (hydorcortisone, benadryl - topical or PO, lidocaine, oatmeal/menthol creams etc.) Only ice numbs it & calms itching temporarily.

I've stopped Tam for 1 wk now & it's mellowing but no answer as to now what? I'm pre-menopausal so seems no other alternative treatment is available. Please let me know if you have info about this issue.

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  • jancie
    jancie Member Posts: 2,631
    edited November 2009

    You could be having a reaction to Tamoxifen.  When I started this journey I was drinking 12 oz of grapefruit juice a day throughout all my treatments.  No wonder I kept getting allergic reactions and weird side effects.  Just wish I had known earlier.  BTW - no grapefruit juice with tamoxifen.

    Here is a link to a site that lists all drugs that interact with Tamoxifen:  Ok, I hate the fact I can't cut and paste URL's using Mozilla Firefox so here is the handtyped version:

     http://www.drugs.com/drug-interactions/tamoxifen-index.html?filter=3&generic_only#R

    Hope I didn't mess that up since my eyesight is so bad right now.  Let me know if it doesn't work.

  • jancie
    jancie Member Posts: 2,631
    edited November 2009

    BTW - don't take benedryl while on Tamoxifen - that is one of the drugs that interacts with Tamoxifen.

  • hopeful4ever
    hopeful4ever Member Posts: 16
    edited December 2009

    joojoo:

    I can't comment on Tamoxifen, but I have been taking Arimidex for just over six months and have developed an unexplained rash.  I was referred to a dermatologist by my rad onc and so far, nothing has helped.  I've had my rash for almost two months and it hasn't responded to OTC topicals, lotions, antihistamines, etc. nor the prescribed topicals.  I've talked with my pharmacist about possible medication interactions as well as Arimidex in particular but so far have no explanation.  In follow-up with the dermatologist, I'm now taking Tetracycline twice daily to see if that makes any difference.  Skin biopsy is the next step.

    My rash is mainly on my face, neck, and chest toward the left breast area.  I completed my rad in April '09 and the rad onc didn't seem to think it was related to my tx. 

    I welcome comments from anyone who may be having problems with rashes.

  • christa0329
    christa0329 Member Posts: 21
    edited December 2009

    I got a rash from Femera about a month after I started taking it.  It started under my left arm and then spread onto my chest and then began under my right arm.  Finally after about a month I stopped taking the Femera and it began to clear up within days.  I took 3 weeks off from medication and began Arimidex, it's been several months and I've been rash free.

  • Lisa8468
    Lisa8468 Member Posts: 1
    edited December 2009

    I started taking Tamoxifen about 4 weeks ago. I haven't had any rashes but I have had unusual side effects.  My arms get heavy and weak (hands get numb) when I'm trying to drive, type, etc.  I also get foggy headed when this happens and I have an overall fatigue that is more severe than when I had chemo (which was only mild).   Coincidentally, the day these symptoms started (they came on like a light) I started having hot flashes. I've been thoroughly checked out; blood work, tests, etc. and everything looks good.  I'm sensitive to medications overall so I just have to assume it's the Tamoxifen.  Good luck with your symptoms. 

  • artsee
    artsee Member Posts: 1,576
    edited December 2009

    I have had a rash on my back for about 5 month. I've gone of of some meds but it hasn't helped. I am on one yet (Femara) and it just may be the culprit.

    At least it doesn't itch. Thank goodness. But it is odd. My Onco didn't have a clue when I showed him.

  • roseg
    roseg Member Posts: 3,133
    edited December 2009

    I've read of a couple of people having rashes with tamoxifen.

    Sometimes people are allergic to the fillers they use the construct the pill. One gal developed it after her pharmacy switched to a new manufacturer. She tried having them order the drug from a different manufacture and it went away. 

    It's no longer available as a not-generic so your pharmacy will buy it from whoever is offering them the lowest price. 

  • Triciaski
    Triciaski Member Posts: 145
    edited December 2009

    I had a rash during the summer, which I attribute partly to tamoxifen because I've never had heat rashes before.

    Ask your doctor for a stronger steroid cream. I happened to have some on hand (it's called Clobetasol) for another skin condition and it did the trick.

    Triciaski

  • hopeful4ever
    hopeful4ever Member Posts: 16
    edited December 2009

    Thank you all for sharing your experiences with me on this rash situation.  After a week on the Tetracycline, still no improvement.. I think this is just another "rule out" option anyway.  The areas on my face are a bit worse, if anything, and the redness on the eyelid and near the eye can't be treated with topicals.  I've had plenty of time to think about any new product that I could have brought into my home and there just aren't any obvious things that come to mind. 

    As Lisa mentioned, the symptoms appeared all at once.  Not there one day, right pink cheeks the next.  I first thought of sun, wind exposure but when it didn't respond to the usual potions, I disregarded those possible causes.  We could all probably write on and on about the joint pain, muscle pain/weakness, stiffness in the hands and fingers, etc., etc.

    I will see my BS next week for repeat mammograms and MRI.  Perhaps he has seen this before.  Otherwise, it's back to the Dermotologist soon.  Our road is long and winding, not to mention, unpredictable.  We have to keep plugging along, don't we?  Thanks for your responses and God Bless you everyone. 

  • musiclovermom
    musiclovermom Member Posts: 452
    edited December 2009

    Hi Everyone,

    I don't have a rash, but I have a question and possibly this is the place to get it answered.

    My skin has change drastically since I started tamoxifen. I NEVER used to use moisturizers but now my skin is red and flaky. I have always used cleansers to keep my pores clear and my favorite was nutrogena pink grapefruit face wash. It just is not giving me the results it did before tamoxifen.

    Does the pink grapefruit face wash interact with the tamoxifen like grapefruit juice? YIKES there is so much I don't know! 

    Does anyone have advice? or know where to get advice? Do I have to worry about estrogen in anitaging creams? What would I look for in a cream to help me avoid the wrong product?

    Who whould I even talk to about these issues? My plastic surgeon? dermatologist? oncologist? I am lost - where do I even begin?

    I guess I will start with jancie web link? any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

    Kimberly

  • Sydney6
    Sydney6 Member Posts: 172
    edited December 2009

    hopeful4ever - Sometime ago I started a thread called "Itching & Cancer".  You might want to check it out.  I have been dealing with a rash for almost 2 years!  It started about 8 months before I was diagnosed and the unsatisfactory answers I was getting from the dermatologist, allergist etc. is what prompted me to have evertything checked out.  I thought after treatment it would go away.  It has improved, but is still driving me crazy on my face, neck and hands.  What's weird is last week I had 2 really good days on my face and during this time it appeared on the chest above my breasts and under my arm where I had surgery.  Now that is cleared up & it's back on my face & neck and the itching is so intense.  Last month one dermatologist gave me a cortizone shot which was wonderful.  I was supposed to get another one on Thursday, but I went to see a dermatologist at Columbia Pres. a few weeks ago and am going for some patch testing on Monday.  Just so you know I have also tried everything.  The itch is so intense I can't even describe it.  In my case I don't think it's the Tamoxifen.  I thought it was related to the cancer & one dermatologist told me it could be as cancer canm throw your whole immune system off.

    Also, bear in mind that Clobetasol cannot be used on the face.  There is Tobradex which is a steroid you can use on your eyelids.  I wish anyone with this problem luck because it is driving me crazy!

    Sue

  • hopeful4ever
    hopeful4ever Member Posts: 16
    edited December 2009

    Thank you Sydney6 for your thread; I will check it out.  I will also ask my Dermatologist about the Tobradex because my eyelids seem to be bothering me the most, at the moment anyway.  The medication prescribed for my face was 0.05% Topicort and 0.25% for the neck and chest with both for short term use. I've stopped using scented laundry detergents, fabric softeners, etc. and this had made no difference; the next thing will be to change brands of kitty litter.  I didn't mention this before, but I've been allergy tested in the past (twice) with no reactions to any of the common allergens.  I am allergic to a few medications and the adhesive on bandaids, Tegaderm, and heart monitoring patches, etc.  The rash is worsening on my neck and chest and even my scalp feels super sensitive.

    I agree that the immune system is probably in a tail spin from what we've been through and we all know about stress, right?  I thought things would be a breeze after surviving the surgery and radiation. Am I the only one that seems to be plagued with really wierd symptoms that no one has encountered or been able to diagnose?  Not likely.

    As for Kimberly's question about estrogen in anti aging creams... from what I've been told, estrogen in any form is a no no but I take Arimidex. That might not be true for those taking Tamoxifen.  We could all use a good "Do" and "Do Not" list couldn't we?  Something very simple and easy to follow. 

    If estrogen came in a liquid, I would be tempted to drink about a gallon.  It might not be good for cancer but I'm sure it would make me feel a lot better.  Thanks to all of you for your input.  If you find humor in anything I've written, it's OK to laugh.  It's a good stress breaker.

  • Sydney6
    Sydney6 Member Posts: 172
    edited December 2009

    Carolyn - I'm curious if you did chemo.  You were diagnosed a few days before me.  I did not do chemo.  Makes me wonder what would be going on if I had.

    Sue

  • hopeful4ever
    hopeful4ever Member Posts: 16
    edited December 2009

    Sue - I read with interest everything on your Itching and Cancer thread.  Thanks for that reference.  It's a little spooky though to think that something like a rash could have a connection with cancer.  By the way, I've moved my appt. with the dermatologist up since my rash hasn't improved.  I'll see him day after tomorrow and I'm ready for a bx if that's what it takes to figure out what it is and how to treat it.

    As for chemo, no I didn't have any.  My onco score was 17 so I barely squeaked in under the wire.  It was decided that if my score was 18 or greater, then chemo it would be.  I would have taken it anyway, "just in case" but that wasn't an option. 

    I am a very fortunate lady because had I gone with the negative results of my diagnostic mammogram and US from last October, I would be sitting here right now with cancer.  I had a wonderful GYN that took things a step further because my 85 year old mother was diagnosed with breast cancer last year.  My tumor was found with MRI.  I know there's a lot of disagreement out there about the pressure and worry of "seeing something that turns out to be nothing" but if I had it to do over, I'd do it.  

  • Sydney6
    Sydney6 Member Posts: 172
    edited December 2009

    Carolyn - I agree.  I wound up having 3 biopsies.  The second one was because they saw an area on the MRI they weren't sure about.  They did an ultrasound biopsy and got the wrong area.  Then my surgeon said they didn't think it was anything so I was going to go ahead with the surgery just to get it over with but I came down with shingles!  I had to postpone my surgery so I thought maybe it was a sign to have the MRI biopsy to make sure.  I had the 3rd biopsy & it turned out to be nothing but it gave me peace of mind.  I go today to get the results of my patch testing.  Can't wait!

    Sue

  • Sydney6
    Sydney6 Member Posts: 172
    edited December 2009

    Carolyn - I forgot, let me know how you make out at the dermatologist.

    Sue

  • Kleenex
    Kleenex Member Posts: 764
    edited December 2009

    I really feel that Tamoxifen blocks estrogen use by my skin and in doing so has totally changed my skin. Where it was oily before, if I use the same soaps and moisturizers and makeup I was using before it's a flaky, irritated mess. I had to completely switch to other types of cleansers - things I would NEVER have considered before due to their overly gentle, moisture-enhancing nature, which would've totally left me slimey with my prior skin.

    The way my skin over-reacts to the products I "normally" used pre-Tamoxifen made me think to suggest you consider all of your cleansers and shampoos, etc.  Even though you aren't "allergic" to things, I think it's possible that Tamoxifen can cause skin changes that are drastic enough to cause sensitivity to things that were previously fine...

    Another thing - my oncologist recommended fish oil to help with skin issues, and when I remember to take it, my skin does much better.

    I hope the dermatologist provides some good ideas and suggestions! A rash in the eye area sounds VERY annoying! And do you need that, with these other things going on? No!!

  • hopeful4ever
    hopeful4ever Member Posts: 16
    edited December 2009

    Well ladies, have you ever been typing along and have an add for Bisphosphonates just butt in and take over?  I lost about three paragraphs so let me try again..

    Sue - how did the patch testing go?  I saw the dermatologist again today and was disappointed that he wants me to continue the antibiotic for another two weeks and to restart the Topicort creams.  He said I could also use the weaker one on my eyelid but I don't think that is such a good idea no matter how careful I am. 

    I saw my BS yesterday (one year checkup) and my MRI was "clean" and mammograms didn't show anything other than my normally dense tissue and multiple scars.  I don't have to go back for a whole year!  That's such good news; I didn't realize how up tight I was until the rad came in and gave me the results of the MRI.  The Lord has really answered a lot of prayers on my behalf!

     Kleenex - your comments about your skin changes in regards to cosmetics has given me something to think about.  After being totally depleted of Estrogen, thanks to Arimidex, my skin is very much like sand paper.  Maybe I need to re-evaluate my skin type and make some changes in that area.  I'd be happy to see any improvement.  As for Fish Oil, I have a bottle of that... just sitting on my counter.  Maybe I'll try a few of those too.

    Sue - were you ever claustrophobic?  I was initially but yesterday made it through my MRI with one tiny Ativan (a leftover from last year's first MRI).  My bx was done using MRI and it was lengthy.  As I said though, I'd do it again if I had this to do over.  The thing I like best about the breast center where I go is that you know your mammogram/MRI/US results before you leave.  As for the anti-anxiety pills, I don't use them otherwise.

    OK, this Bisphosphonate add is after me again.  Let me submit before I lose this.  I will return in hopes that we can find an answer to this irritating problem we share.  Blessing to all!

  • tracyanne
    tracyanne Member Posts: 112
    edited December 2009

    I also developed a rash within days of starting tamoxifen, though my onco and my GP say it wan't connected...my dermatologist says maybe, but that tamoxifen is not known for skin side effects...he will biopsy this rash when I get back home after the holidays.  It started in the radiation are around the breast, spread across my chest, down one arm, and up my neck, onto my face.  I've had five days of antibiotics (GP feared a strep or staph skin infection) and four days of steroid cream (dermatologist added this) and the rash is now gone from my face, mostly gone from  my chest, much better on my arm...but my legs just exploded with it yesterday.  It's all up and down the legs, itchy as heck...so I started with the cream there, too.  If I were not out of state visiting relatives for the holidays, I'd be calling my dermatologist to biopsy it.

    Hopeful4ever and others, did you get biopsies of your skin rashes?  How are they doing?

  • hopeful4ever
    hopeful4ever Member Posts: 16
    edited January 2010

    Hi everyone and Happy New Year. 

    I saw my dermatologist today and was expecting a bx since no improvement in my rashes in spite of continued use of my 30-day antibx. and generic form of Topicort.  To my dismay, I'm apparently allergic to the topicals. I now have 3 new prescriptions and a follow-up in 3 weeks.  Not bad enough to have an allergy to who knows what; now it's the medication used to treat it.

    Tracyanne, how are things going with you?  I'll be interested to hear about your follow-up and hope you had a nice visit with relatives.

  • BluRainn
    BluRainn Member Posts: 1
    edited December 2019

    I was told by a dermatologist that Tamoxifen dries out your skin. Then, on top of that, the bar soap I use was drying it out more. The rash started on my arms, then moved to upper back and neck, lower legs, then face and then oddly the palm of my hands. The dermatologist suggested switching to a soap called Vanicream. It has been a game changer for me. It is a bar soap and an be found at your local CVS or Walgreens. Each bar is about $5, but worth it. You can als9 find online. My face cleared up the next day and arms, legs, back, and neck a few days later. The palm of my hands continue to be a problem. Hope this helps relieve your rashes too!

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