Did anyone else suffer from body image issues after BC?

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            Where do I begin? I'm 26years old and I just finished radiation therapy this month and chemotherapy in August. Aside from going bald and stuff, it is cool that I got my hair back. The downer is that I'm not used to having really short hair, since I've had long hair most of my life. Also, I gained twenty lbs while on chemo and haven't lost any of it. I'm just super pissed and frustruated cause people tell me I'm beautiful and I don't feel beautiful, I just feel fat and uglyYell. This is not the me that I am used to. I feel like I've been robbed of my youth and beauty, no one looks at me, and when people do, they think I'm a fat lesbian or a boy. What also sucks is that I don't have a job and I'm not in school due to bc treatments, so I just feel like a total loser cause I'm here at home all the timeCry. I'm frustruated  because I feel that a lot of people don't understand what I am dealing with. It just makes me so angry and sick that people are so shallow and selfish when it comes to appearances and self-worth. I don't know if I make any sense right now, I'm just irritated. Did anyone else go through a similar experience?? Suggestions are welcomed Smile

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  • Niknak0320
    Niknak0320 Member Posts: 138
    edited November 2009

    hello Sara!  I am right on page with how you are feeling in so many ways!  I am a little older than you (32) so I don't necessarily feel robbed of my youth but the beauty, yeah I feel that!  Not only did I gain chemo weight that I still need to lose but I also delievered a 6th child two weeks after my diagnosis so I have a ton of baby weight to lose as well!  After the baby was born I thought my belly looked pretty good...then 2 weeks later I had a bilateral mastectomy and once again my belly seemed to be larger than life!  I also feel robbed because I feel most beautiful during pregnancy, thus the reason I've carried 6 children and planned to do more.  However cancer being ER+ took that dream away from me : (

    My hair is just now starting to show signs of coming in.  I've never had short hair in my life and don't think it's going to look good on me at all!

    My suggestion to you, since you are at home without a job or school is to kick ass at getting back into shape!  Make going to the gym your "job".

    All my best!

    I've finally decided that I'm ready to get into a gym and take control of my weight issue.  It really helps to be able to move forward and give it my best shot to change something that I don't like.  Hopefully by the time I get my body into shape my hair will have grown in some and I can look forward to my reconstruction : )

  • CoolBreeze
    CoolBreeze Member Posts: 4,668
    edited November 2009

    I'm 51, honey, so I can relate but in a very different way.  You don't know this, but you always think of yourself as young - it's kind of a shock to look in the mirror each morning and see this wrinkled person looking back at you.  :)  But, when I was 26, I didn't think I was pretty or beautiful or hot or anything either.  I was so super critical of everything.  I look back now and shake my head - how foolish I was.I bet those people who think you are pretty - short hair or not - are telling the truth.  You can't see it because you don't feel it inside.

    Acceptance is part of all life.  We will never been the ideal physical person we want to be.  We aren't Beyonce or Rhianna.  But, we are valuable.  You've been through something other people your age have not, and that should make you proud.  And strong.  Because you are stronger than other women your age.

    Think of what you can do that represents that strength.  If you are physical, start to try for a marathon.  If you are an artist,  create a statue or painting.  If you are a writer, start your book.  

    I think that getting out of the house and doing something - even walking a dog, or a neighbor's dog, will help you.  I tend to sit in the house too, when I feel tired and  bored.  But, if I get out for just a little bit, my perspective changes. 

    You have so much to give and are not at all the way you think you are.  You ARE beautiful, you are strong and you have a lot to offer.   You have to jump start your life.  Maybe continued treatments keep you from doing much - but maybe you can do something that makes you feel valued?  It doesn't have to be based on how you look.

    I'm sorry you have to go through this at such a young age.  :(

  • violet7
    violet7 Member Posts: 180
    edited November 2009

    Geez Louise, Sara, give yourself a break!  You have been battling cancer - not a bad cold!  And, by the way, you look like a cutie to me w/ short hair.  Don't beat yoursef up for "being home all the time" you just recently finished chemo and radiation for CANCER.  Your first priority needs to be recovering your strength.  I am so heart-broken for you that you have to go through this at 26.  I am so sorry.  People are incredibly shallow, it's true.  So don't bother hoping to please them, they are not worth pleasing.  Recover your strength.  You have plenty of time to grow your long hair back, plenty of time to let your body go back to its natural weight.  You will still be young in 6 months when you have dropped your chemo weight and have grown longer hair.  Don't be so hard on yourself.  You are beautiful and beauty is all around you.  I do understand what you mean.  I've always had long hair, it's always been blonde, who knows how it'll come back in.  My identity since childhood has been tied in w/ my hair.  I'm trying my very, very best to look at this as a spiritual retreat.  I'm giving up my outer identity - maybe there's more to me than I have ever guessed.  Maybe setting aside vanity for awhile will be good for my soul. ...  Maybe not.  But that is what I need to believe as I prepare for chemo next week.  You've gone through the darkest part of the tunnel.  It's only going to get better as you go forward.  You are a strong young woman.

  • foxyroxy2983
    foxyroxy2983 Member Posts: 42
    edited November 2009

    Thank you everyone for your comments, I feel betterSmile. I've been told that trying to get a normal life after bc  was going to be hard, I just didn't think that it would be this hard. It just upsets me that the people I know think that because I'm done with treatments that I can go back to a normal life like it is no thing, like if bc never happened. I do like to go out sometimes, all I know is that I made a HUGE mistake going to the nightclubs with some friends recently. My friends are between 25-35, so I guess the concept of me going through bc is difficult for them to grasp, so they assume that because I am done with treatments that I'm ok emotionally, which sometimes I'm not. They mean well and want me to have a good time but at the same time they don't realize that when you go out to a nightclub, people go with the intent to find or attract someone. I didn't notice it that much before, but a lot of people that go to those places are sooo shallow and evil. I did not get asked to dance, but all of my other friends did. Never in my life had I felt discriminated for having short hair or being overweight Yell. Ugh, I'm just going to stay away from those places for a while, the people there suck. It's just been difficult adjusting to a "normal" life.

    Niknak0320: I like your idea about making fitness my job. I do exercise but I think I need to try some more challenging exercises Smile. Well I still have time, I just need to be patient, lol. I'm sorry that bc took away your dreams of carrying more children and how it made you feel. You are a beautiful person and you've given all these children the gift of life. That to me is very noble and admirable of you.

    CoolBreeze and violet7: Thank you for the advice and encouraging words. I thought I was over being vain during chemo, but I guess it creeped up again and made me miserable. I shouldn't let it get to me and I shouldn't be comparing myself to women my age that have never experienced bc. I am happy knowing that I am a strong person.

  • violet7
    violet7 Member Posts: 180
    edited November 2009

    When I had endocervical cancer and was freaked out about never being normal again, a wise survivor told me that what you have after cancer is a new normal.  I guess that's about it.  I'm 45 now, and I have to say that one thing I definitely do not miss about being young is the nightclub experience - and I was a size 5 w/ long naturally platnium hair and a year-round suntan (yup, I got skin cancer too), which would have the ticket anywhere else in the world, but I grew up in Orange County - you want to talk about being surrounded by shallow people - OMG!  The nightclub scene is really very sad and you aren't missing much there.  I have to say also that I'm 45 and my friends are 35 to 55 and unless they actually went through cancer they really don't understand the emotions involved.  They tell you to stay positive - I think because it makes it easier on them.  And I think that's why this forum is here;  we do all understand and you can vent and know you won't be tossed a platitude.  There are other people out there - even in their twenties - who do not discriminate against people on the basis of their looks.  I know they are hard to come by.  I gained weight after having children and I don't get nearly the good treatment from men and service I used to get when I was thinner.  I'm hoping to achieve a yoga body through chemo, but I'm told weight gain is also possible.  I could definitely stand to lose 20 lbs. too.  30 would put me in a size 6 again - how wonderful that would be, but I'll just take being alive even if I gain weight.  You know, it's just so hard.  It's just is plain hard.  But you and I and we all are going to get through this.  Your hair will grow back before you know it.  Vanity is just on hold awhile.  It just sucks that you have to be doing this so young.  {{{{{{{{Hugs, Sara}}}}}}}}}

  • Bellz
    Bellz Member Posts: 43
    edited December 2009

    I totally get what you are saying...I will never look the same in the mirror, and right now all I see are those scars everywhere...I had the lat flap, so the other night my back was hurting and I had a heating pad on it...I now have blisters on my back because of the loss of feeling from the nerves being cut, bet those leave scars also. CANCER SUCKS!!! It has taken all aspects of what I thought I was, my job, my breasts, my self confidence, my memory sucks now...sorry I am not much for inspiration, but I am so down. Yes I am on anti depressants already. But all I want to do is cry, because I did nothing to cause this and it is ruining my life.

  • hrf
    hrf Member Posts: 3,225
    edited December 2009

    Bellz, I feel exactly as you do. I've lost everything that made me a woman, I can't lose the chemo weight and now the Arimidex is making it worse and my hair is not growing back. I try to be invisible and stay alone at home as much as I can.

  • foxyroxy2983
    foxyroxy2983 Member Posts: 42
    edited December 2009

    Violet7: Wow, I don't know what to say other than you've been through a lot and it is an inspiration to see that you are still perservering Smile. I didn't really think about it, but I guess the weight gain, scars, and short hair does become the new normal. It's been taking a while to get used to though, at least I don't cry when I see my scars anymore. I suppose it is better to have scars, be overweight, and have short hair instead of being dead Undecided. It's hard, somedays I feel good and somedays I feel really, really bad. At least the hard part is over, diagnosis, chemo, and rads. I'll just take one day at a time and stay away from bad people and bad places, lol.

    HugsWink {{{{{violet7}}}}}

  • Lena
    Lena Member Posts: 1,036
    edited December 2009

    Oh wow, Sara, that really sucks!  :*-(  

    However, one doesn't have to be young to have body image issues. It would be fair to say I had them BEFORE I had cancer (AND while I was VERY young, like, my teens!) -- but they weren't near as bad as they got AFTER I came down with the cancer. My weight was in the OK range, but IMO my build left a lot to be desired -- fine slender arms and legs (until I hit 40 or so, they were just about pretty enough to belong to a movie star even), but I had this thick waisted Midsection from Hell. So even when young, I was never able to wear a bikini, and even 1-piece bathing suits looked bad on me -- in my early 20s I threw out the couple bathing suits I had and never replaced 'em!  I liked my face, at least the way it was framed by my long hair (which had finally gotten almost all the way to my waist at the time of my BC diagnosis) and these huge intense dark brown eyes -- my breasts, ehh, I liked the way they looked "sort of" -- they were a nice matched set, but I have preferred 34D to the 34C's they were! LOL! Their value to me was much more in the sexual arousal and sensations department than in the looks department -- I never turned male heads like stacked women do with my "too small to be visually noteworthy" 34Cs, but oh boy did they WORK! Sooo...I never really did have the greatest body image, but up until I hit my late 30s/got into my 40s, I thought I was "pretty enough," as long as I dressed to hide the Midsection from Hell.  

    Also before breast cancer, "normal aging" was putting a damper on my body image (I'm 48 now). No, my face wasn't pretty anymore with those bags under my once beautiful eyes. No, I wouldn't wear shorts or short skirts in public anymore even though my legs are STILL shaped right -- not with those old lady "road maps" plain to see! But OK, body image was still not TOTALLY down the tubes yet even at this point: on my more and more infrequent "happy" days I thought I looked "not bad for a woman my age."

    Then comes the breast cancer. I was diagnosed Stage IV from the get-go (Feb 2009, age 47). I didn't want to live even -- I was ready to crawl inside my apt and let myself die, but I let my boyfriend and the doctor talk me into trying treatment, which was 6 rounds of chemo (TAC: April 9-July 23, 2009). My weight stayed stable (I fluctuated up and down 2-3 pounds when weighed at each doctor visit), but of course I lost my hair.

    I didn't get a mastectomy because my oncologist says that for Stage IV patients, mastectomies only help if the tumor breaks out of the skin of the breast and there are ulcerations/oozing sores, which I didn't have. But although I haven't had oozing sores, this isn't to say my right breast didn't become horribly misshapen. It's misshapen to the point where even though my left breast is normal, the mismatch is probably just as bad as it would've been with one normal breast and a mastectomy scar on the other side. In fact, if I wasn't so scared to death of mastectomy postop (drains, disability while recovering), I'd be screaming at the doctor: "OK, Take this frickin horrible THING off my body already -- and get that goddamn port out while you're at it!"

    So between losing my hair and my mangled breast/hideous chest (plus the aging stuff): 

    THAT DID IT. I HAVE NO MORE BODY IMAGE LEFT. I BECAME A HORRID UGLY CREATURE.  I DON'T THINK I LOOK LIKE A HUMAN ANYMORE, EVEN. I CAN'T STAND THE MERE SIGHT OF MYSELF!

    Well, OK -- IF I wear my wig (I was able to get one which was almost as long as my real hair had been, and the same color), I can pass for human. And I was already wearing loose fitting (or in the winter, heavy) clothing to hide my Midsection from Hell anyway -- so now it hides my misshapen chest too. But....

    I got hot flashes on the chemo, and I still get them from the Tamoxifen the doctor put me on the week after I finished my chemo -- so wearing the wig is uncomfortable. I only wear it when I have to go out (I will NOT even open the apt door to be seen like this for a nanosecond!) -- whether ir's just to go downstairs to get the mail/do the laundry, or OUT-out (leaving the apt building to take out trash, move the car, run errands).  Hats and scarves are not an option. I "need" the long hair to feel human even.

    Fortunately I'm an introvert anyway and more than a little bit of a recluse (and also good my boyfriend is obviously blind because he has repeatedly told me I'm irrational about the "hair thing" and I make too big a deal over it) -- so I don't MIND doing what Helen does, i.e., hiding in the apartment and only going out when absolutely necessary (though I hate it that it's now a major pain in the butt to "make myself look human" before going out; all I used to have to do was be in clean clothes, brush my hair and brush my teeth, could be ready to go out in less than 5 mins) -- I would pretty much be doing that even if I did still have my looks. But being ugly like this, even when nobody else has to see it, really upsets me.

     ~Lena. 

  • Twa
    Twa Member Posts: 40
    edited December 2009

    Dear Sara, wtf is up with the "fat lesbian" comment?

    Really.

  • foxyroxy2983
    foxyroxy2983 Member Posts: 42
    edited December 2009

    Twa, what is ur problem???  I did not mean to say "fat lesbian" as a way to insult anyone. I'm just saying that this is what people say behind my back. I do not have problems with lesbians, gays, or bisexuals for that matter, I have cousins that live that lifestyle and I love them and care about them very much. This is a depression/anxiety forum not a human sexuality preference forum.

  • Bonnygg
    Bonnygg Member Posts: 115
    edited December 2009

    Dearest Fpxy,

    Violet said it right. You are going to get a normal life, it just won't be the same kind of normal before bc. It will definately be different. And I gurantee you that today's normal won't be the same a tomorrow's. Because you've had bc, your life & how you look at & how you handle yourself is all going to transition into something completely different.

    When you are in the middle of the dark tunnel, it's tough to see light at the end. But the chemo  finished. The rads finished. Now your body has to reclaim itself and learn to function again. You've just beat it to a bloody pulp and it's got to get it's strength back. Be patient with it.

    You think your short hair sucks? You should have been me. I'm plain fat and no hair made me look like a burnt beer barrel on sticks for legs. Good grief. On top of that, I'm not pretty and lack of eyebrows & eyelashes made me look like a poor old worn out doll.

    The short hair while it grew back in saved me money on shampoo and made my showers alot shorter.

    You look in a mirror every day. You see every little thing that isn't right. But guess what? You see yourself very close up. Other people don't see you that close up & every day. They don't see all the little things that you do.

    If you are a stick person (nothing mean intentional there), and you gained 20 lbs, unless it hangs out the front like a watermelon, no one notices it. Us bigger gals, heck, 20 lbs is never seen by others.

    If people treat you poorly, it's just because they had a bad upbringing and lousey parents. Ignore 'em & turn the other way so that you don't see them. You have better things to do with your time.

    Hang tough.

    bonny

  • 3katz
    3katz Member Posts: 1,264
    edited December 2009

    We have all suffered because of this stupid beast. We all have a new "normal" now. I'm so deeply saddened by how young everyone is - Wow - 26 Sara? And Sara - you are NOT a loser. This time is just VERY difficult. I was 40 when diagnosed so the aging process already started. But I really feel for you.

    I can fully relate to the hair issue - my hair was dark, thick, wavy and down to my butt. I started chemo in Sept 2005 and finished in March 2006. Having no hair was really a tough adjustment. In Jan 2007, once it started getting a little length, I got magenta highlights. The double takes I got from people were hysterical!!! Since I couldn't have the long hair I decided to have some fun with what I had. The highlights didn't last long and the hair growth was slow. But fast forward to today: it is down to my shoulders and I'm getting purple highlights tonight!! (I do work in a commercial financial institution so I can't go too crazy.)

    No one will ever be completely satisfied with their physical appearance. But we have to do the best we can for ourselves - not for others.

  • streetangel
    streetangel Member Posts: 11
    edited December 2009
    I like all the posts, and I wish I could offer some wonderful words of encouragement. For me, life after BC has never been the same. I long for the pink survivor cloud as I call it, but it just has not happened. I know I have to shake this. I was diagnosed at 38, stage IIA in 1 lymph node. Since my mother and her mother both had BC, my mother just finishing her last nipple reconstruction step when I went for consultation, I decided to have a bi-lateral mastectomy. Being in a long term relationship it seemed like a very easy decision for me. Now, 5 years later I have had to have my implants removed becuase I kept getting infections and I ended up with the autoimmune disorders such as Lupus and MCTD, which was listed as a possibility in the mounds of paperwork I signed, and read later on. Chemo damaged my heart. Now, I'm 43 going to a Cardiologist, Rheumatologist, Oncologist etc. I work from home so do not have to leave the house, and I have no desire to leave the house. I feel like a "sick" person, worried about my future, cancer recurrance or heart issues, being able to work, etc. Most of all I cannot look in the mirror, I always had low self esteem anyway. I will admit, when I get out of the house it does make a difference but the outings are few and far between. I keep saying I'm going to find a BC support group for women that do not have reconstruction, some positive inisight would probably be good. I've only just started thinking about maybe getting a big beautiful tattoo to cover my entire chest. I have an indian bloodline, however small it may be, from my fathers side - blackfoot. I've always loved nature and wolves, and am thinking of a beautiful indian scene - I can stare at any picture of a wolf and their eyes look right into my soul every time. A wolf is held in high regard in indian culture along with the eagle etc so maybe I'll include the eagle, who knows. I'm so sorry I cannot offer you words of encouragement, sometimes I feel so guilty for being negative and depressed when I've been given a second chance but I just cannot get past any of this after 5 years. You sound like your where you should be though just ending chemo and so on, I mean its true you should give yourself a break you've gone through a lot. Listen to these other beautiful women that are giving you words of wisdom, maybe if I read enough it will help me Undecided
  • PNWgal
    PNWgal Member Posts: 7
    edited December 2009

    Streetangel, my sister had preventative bilateral mastectomies (after my mom, another sister, and myself were all diagnosed).  She had tattoos of vines and flowers on her chest.  At the time I thought that was odd and didn't want that for myself, but now I think, good for her!  If it makes you feel good, makes you smile when you look there, then you should do it. 

    Sara, I'm so sorry for you going through this at such a young age.  You are not alone, as you can tell by reading these posts, and I know it is true from my own experience (I'm 53), I didn't really know myself until I got into my mid 30s.  Until then you are 'finding your way', trying to learn who you are and what you want in life.  I didn't actually 'get my voice' until I hit my mid 40s.  Sadly when I felt I was getting my stride I got BC.  This 2 years after getting a divorce after a 24-year marriage. So, now I'm trying to find my footing again.  It has been a rocky road.  I think this forum, where you can hear other people tell their experiences, is wonderful. Since I discovered this I can't help but look through these posts every day, smile some, cry some, feel like I have found a family, people who understand, have been there, know how it all truly feels.  We are all here for you, and understand.  Take good care.

  • NativeMainer
    NativeMainer Member Posts: 10,462
    edited December 2009

    Sara--while I was almost twice your age at diagnosis (48), I do relate to the change in self-image.  I always was the strong, independant woman, the "fat broad" that didn't care about being overweight, the person who could handle anything.  Going through the complications of bc treatment and winding up with a mastectomy has left me feeling totally broken down at times.  It's been almost 3 years since diagnosis and I'm just beginning to feel like a competent human being again.  As far as body image, I was never beautiful, but now I have to choose between looking like a freak (concave on the left, DDD on the right) or living a lie (mastectomy bra and prosthesis).  No matter which way I go my own body isn't acceptable anymore.  The summer of "08 I couldn't work and had to move in with my mother, so I know that total loser feeling, too. 

    For me, getting back to work was a huge help.  The other big help for me is reconstruction.  I'm working on getting that set up for next summer and I can't wait to have a complete body that is all my own again. 

    For yourself, I second the recommendation already made to make getting back in to shape your "job" until you are cleared to find a job or go back to school.  The first year is hardest as far as looking ahead to the future--I was afraid to plan anything  beyond the next doctors appointment in case some other problem that would take my life away again was found.  After a while you'll find yourself thinking ahead again, and you'll notice that you feel a bit better.  Hang in there~~

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