Starting Chemo Aug 09
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Navy, thanks for the promise of company. Congratulations on your last TAC and on the fuzzies!
Patty
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Wow, see so much in just a few posts. I'm glad to hear some are done and others almost done. Those going into the next months, hang in there, you will make it. My thoughts will be with you.
Navy: yes I did have the TAC, I won't miss it one bit.
After my blood levels get back to normal, it's off to get the port out. Then a visit to the dentist again, and then we schedule the bone density test.
A new "normal" is a good way to put it, but I'll take it! Better than the alternative.
I do hope everyone tries to have a pleasant holiday, I'm not really into it as much this year.
I used to go all out, but this year, I'm wishing for just a Peaceful one. Less is more for me now.
Take care all,
Linda
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Congrats to all of our August Amazons who have made it to the end of their chemo - woo hoo! And stay strong: if you haven't, you will soon enough. It IS amazing how fast it goes. Though the final TX is not an immediate relief (except psychologically) -- there are still SEs after... but they are diminishing now for me (3 weeks after last Taxol). Had Herceptin today which is a breeze... will be getting that once every three weeks until next summer. Takes about an hour and a half tops and no SEs.
Jenn anytime you want to ask me anything about surgery/reconstruction please feel free to PM me. There is also a thread on this site called Exchange City, which I recommend if you are thinking about implants.
Yes it is a relief to not have to have radiation (I think someone commented on this here -- at least I hope it was this thread and not another)... although I think if I could have had just a lumpectomy and radiation I would have been okay with that. Given that I do have to have the right MX, I'm glad it will be done without the radiation as I understand that makes the results more difficult (or can). That said, I send all of you who are now undergoing radiation my sincerest wishes and prayers for an easy time of it.
Cheers,
Lilah
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We'll definitely keep you company Patty! I hope we can all keep in touch after everyone is done treatment! It's nice to be able to stop in here and know that everyone knows what you are going through and how you feel.
Congrats Navy Mom!! Last one today! Wow!
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Good morning - it's been busy since my last post. Saints............. 11 - 0, they are having a wonderful season!!! Yesterday the achiness was rough and it's still here today, but I'm trying to pretend it isn't here because I have some stuff to do this morning and really don't have time for the pain.
Linda - please don't feel bad for not writing, everyone deals with this in their own way and I'm glad that we were able to help with our post.
Donna - sorry to hear about the nausea with rads - didn't know that could happen - ugh! I am told I'll have 30 rounds of rads to go starting mid-January.
Patty - I won't be finished chemo until 12/18 if all stays on track - I'll keep you company - promise!
NavyMom = WhooHoo - glad you're at the end. I hear ya' on the eyebrows and lashes - mine look terrible - I hate that more than the loss of hair..................
Karen - How are you feeling? And....is that wonderful kitty of yours still following you around the house? My dogs won't leave my side.
Lilah - I will check out the Exchange City thread when the time comes. I think now that I'm getting close to the end of chemo I'll start hitting the doctor with all of the questions that I've been holding on to.
Friday night is our annual Christmas dinner with friends from work and former co-workers - I think we have something like 20 people this year. All of my dressier blouses and sweaters just don't work right now with my boobless figure. So........... I'm going to run out today to see if I can find something I like - wish me luck.
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Hi ladies,
It is so good to hear that so many of you are done with chemo. Hang in there Donna with the radiation. Jenn, just tough it out, it is alnmost at the end. I have that weird folded piece of sock sensation with the leftover neuropathy-perfect description, and the fatigue goes away fast.
I will still probably have the full 4AC of Chemo to do after I recover from the surgery. I am hoping to have the path report for Dec 17 and will know then. Maybe no chemo or rads!?!? Live in hope!
Every day is better after the surgery but now I am starting to get all the nerve pain, in the lymph node area as well as on my chest. Hoping to have the dreains removed tomorrow but not optimistic.
My Mom left yesterday which makes me sad but my mother in law will arrive today so that will be nice.
Take care all!
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Lilah, I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you that they remove the drains tomorrow. If it makes you feel any better, when I went to have the my drain removed I was convinced they were going to leave it in...but they didn't! And I had no problems with excess fluid. The nerve pain is annoying but I think it is because the nerves are healing up...a good thing! Lucky you..no radiation!
Donna, do you take anything for the nausea on the rads? I haven't refilled my anti-nausea meds since I haven't had any on the weekly Taxol...but maybe I should get one more refill just in case? Hope you feel better soon.
NavyMom, Jenn - Hate, hate, hate my lack of eyebrows and lashes. I've always had to use eyebrow pencil and mascara because my brows and lashes are very blonde, but now I don't even have a guide for the brows! And my five remaining lashes look completely silly with mascara on them.
I hope you find a lovely dress Jenn! Thanks everyone for keeping me company!
Patty
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Hello ladies, sorry it took me so long to respond, it seems like all I do these days is sleep. This last one has been like wow, I am much more tired after the last chemo, it is unexplainable. Went to work today, but was really useless, all I wanted to do was curl up and go to sleep.
I do have some neuropathy, I didn't get it until the 5th one, it isn't constant. I am starting to notice it now after the 6th, I feel way more than I did and I hope it doesn't stay.
With Herceptin, the only side effects I have had is an occasional nosebleed. I won't go to every 21 days until Jan.
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Jenn -- very wise, of course, your doctor is the expert and best person to ask questions of! BTW, did you go back to work yet? I think I remember you posting a few weeks ago that you were afraid but didn't know why... was wondering if the fear went away once you returned? (Or maybe you haven't yet).
Patty! It is not me who has drains (yet)... though I will have them a week from tomorrow, alas. I had them in June when I had my SNB and lumpectomy #2... so I know what they are like (and I hated them/couldn't wait to get them out last time). Hopefully this time around I will be able to have them out quickly... in June they were in for 6 days. Sorry if there was somethin g in my last post that made you think I had had surgery already.... it is coming a week from tomorrow (Dec 9). I am not looking forward to losing my boob. I so wanted them to just do one more lumpectomy and radiation, to be honest, but my BS said the chances of recurrence for me would be much greater with lumpectomy alone. I am not going through this again if I can help it, so it's Right MX for me. I guess I should be thankful that I get to keep my left one (and I am)... but all in all it's going to be a really difficult (emotionally and physically) 3 - 4 months or so while the TEs are being expanded and I wait for the exchange (which probably won't happen until April or May).
Cheers,
Lilah
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Lilah..sorry! Here I am thinking I've got no chemo brain...and like duh. Sounds like you are doing the right thing with the MX, but I can understand how hard it must be. All positive thoughts coming your way from me.
It was YoYo who was getting her drains out...today I think. I hope it went well YoYo!
Smore, hang in there girl. I didn't do TCH, but on the AC the fatigue definitely got worse each cycle. There were days when one hour up and around meant one hour on the sofa to recuperate. Sleep is good! Just keep focusing on that LAST TX which will be here soon!
I'm mid-week after Taxol #3 and have nothing to complain about. YEAH!
Patty
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Yay Patty on Taxol #3! Does this mean you only have one more???
Lilah
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Good morning - Yesterday I was able to find a dressier sweater to wear for my Christmas dinner Friday night - whew............ It was a really slow day at the mall I'm guessing because it was a cold rainy day. I wish I didn't have anything to do today or I'd go back and do a little Christmas shopping. I'll get some more done Thursday and really try to finish up next week.
Lilah - No, I haven't gone back to work, more issues with HR, they just can't seem to get the information right. However, I'm going in tomorrow for a "visit" to get my desk cleaned up and get a few things together because I am planning on officially going back next week for a few days a week. I haven't put on a work suit since June. So....... yesterday I tried them on to make sure they still fit and luckily they do- the weight I've gained is minimal so it hasn't affected my clothes. That fear is still there, but I think once I get back into the routine I'll feel better.
YoYo - That nerve pain is weird, but I found that once the drains were removed it was somewhat better. Don't forget to do the exercises when they give you the okay. Good luck today!
Smore - Glad to hear from you - it's okay to sleep...... that's what our bodies need right now. During AC I had terrible fatigue from low blood counts. I remember getting up to shower and eat breakfast was all I could do some days. Now that I'm on Taxol I find that I don't get tired until the afternoon, but it happens. Yesterday I took a nap mid afternoon and was still falling asleep by 7pm.
Hope everyone has a good day.............
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Lilah...I WISH I only had one more Taxol. But I'm on the 12 weekly doses, so 9 more to go. So far it has been so kind to me that I often forget I'm chemo. That is, until I look in the mirror and see my bald head...and no eyebrows...and no lashes. Oh well!
Patty
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Congrats Navy!!!!!!
I want to share my gripe that I posted in the November Rads board just in case one of the Amazons has any suggestions, It is regarding my radiation boob, sorry in advance gripe contains graphic hanging boob problems:
I don't think that my male RO gets it!
After 7th treatment my boob is already pink, mostly underneath which I was already told was going to be a problem since my 42 DDD's hang. I am so confused on how to slow this down. RO told me not to wear a tight bra, well I only own tight bras and having boobs as big as mine I have never experienced a "loose" bra??? My RO gave me a cream called Biafine to put on 3 times a day which I've been doing since day 1 with no results. Today I looked for 100% aloe at Walgreens, none found, I bought some aloe burn gel that has some lidacaine in it for pain I guess??? Do I keep the boob lubed with cream or dry underneath??? Thought of trying a maxipad underneath to keep cream on boob but sweat off??? I am VERY confused. Any suggestions? RO said at night to lay on back nude to get air under boob, but even on my back I still have a fold, also incision is getting darker? Help! Donna
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My sunglasses are my new mascara and eyeliner, I hate having bald eyes!
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Donna - I haven't done rads yet, however the medical supply store I checked out for wigs early on had a 100% aloe cream that they said works wonders for radiation therapy. I've also found 100% aloe lotions online too. Try going to a medical supply store or online. Good luck.......
I hear ya' on the no eyelashes and brows - I hate it!!!
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Donna - wish I could help but I have no experience (yet) with rads. My surgeon told me that radiation can change the scar and the tissue...so maybe the darker incision is "normal"? Lubbed or dry...not sure but I know with other burns lubbed is best. Based on your experience I'm now eyeing the Aloe plant on my deck with new respect! Love the glasses! You look like a celebrity!
Patty
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Patty -- aw so sorry you have 9 more to go, but glad that you're handling it so well (so far) -- may it continue to be so. And oh I hear ya on the bald! I keep forgetting I'm bald and then see myself in the mirror and think: OMG I'M BALD! Too many years of long hair I guess. I do love my wig though. It looks better than my real hair ever did.
Jenn -- sorry HR is still being a pain. I think you will be happy to get back to work... so I hope it happens for ya next week.
Donna -- sorry I have not had rads and so have no answers for you... but wanted to send you hugs and good wishes for an improvement soon.
Cheers,
Lilah
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It's so good to see so many of us August Amazons are done or nearly done with chemo. I'm halfway thru cycle #5 of my six cycles of Taxotere and Gemzar. My last cycle starts on Dec.23rd and I'll be done in the 2nd week of January. Then I get a month off, and it's on to radiation for 4 weeks. But the end is in sight.
I had almost no SE's at all until I hit cycle 4, and then I seem to react more to the Gemzar than the Taxotere, which is exactly the opposite of everything I've heard. Gemzar makes me achy and feverish when I get it alone, but not when I get it with Taxotere. I've noticed a little tingling in my hands and feet this cycle and some pain in the balls of my left foot at times. Not horrible. just annoying and controlled with Advil. So, I can hang on for a couple of more weeks and then I'm done. YAY!
I'm glad to see so many of you getting through this with such high spirits and going about your regular routine with such determination. I'm very proud of all of us - we made it! Thank you all for making me laugh when I needed it and for giving me a kick in the pants to quit whining about little annoyances when so many of you had it much worse than I did. You all were truly an inspiration.
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Ok, so I went to see my Onc today after rads. This appt. was supposed to be to get my PET scan results. Well surprise! my insurance company said once again the PET scan was denied, stating no proof of cancer after surgery. My Onc wasn't happy to say the least but her rants and raves contained things like don't they know you are "very high risk" for reoccurance! Don't they know your type of cancer is "very, very aggresive". These were all things I did not want to here from my Onc after I had all that chemo and am in the middle of getting radiation! She said can you get different insurance? I thought yeah sure I bet BCBS would love to have me, a breast cancer patient as their new client. When I first talked to her after my surgery, she told me that I had an 80% chance of no recurrence within a 10 year period if I did the chemo and rads. So I wonder has the number changed? Of course I didn't ask her because my jaw was laying on the ground! I am a triple negative, grade 3, stage 2A patient, can't I hope and assume that they got it all and it's not coming back or is that very naive of me. I know we have to be very diligent in monitoring our bodys but I thought after chemo and rads I could at least breathe a breath of relief. Do you think it's just because she is a chemotherapy onc. and being a triple neg there is no more treatment for me other than the chemo I have already had and the rads I am currently doing? I am now very confused, I will be getting a pelvic and chest CT instead of the PET scan, apparently the allmighty $$$$ controls which scans you "need". I hate our healthcare system!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's cheaper for them if I just would die!
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Donna - I am so sorry to hear that the insurance company won't approve the PET scan. I am planning on asking for one this week - because like you I'm triple negative (Stage IIIA, grade 3)and just want to be sure. I fear the same thing you're going through - that the insurance company will deny, deny, deny. I agree that our healthcare system needs some fixing - the insurance companies are always looking to cut back on matter how it affects the patient.
Mainecoonekitty - glad you checked in - sorry you're not feeling so well with the chemo. The Gezmar sounds like Taxol - the SE's sneak up on you. However, like you said - the end is in sight for those of us still going through chemo and I know we are all ready to be done with this...........................
Today I got up walked the dogs, had to cut it short because I ran into a dog off leash (again) and to back track to go around would have been too much. But........... we got in about 25 minutes. Then I got dressed and went to work to get my desk in order, clean up and organize. I will be going back next Wed & Thurs to hopefully do some real work. Then I left work and............ went to the medical supply/prosthetic store and bought some boobs. I am now the proud owner of two boob prothesis.............
I wore my new boobs home - I'm excited I have boobs. I walk in the door, talk to DH, DD about their day. Then I ask "do you notice something different"? They resond "yes, you look nice today, the outfit you're wearing looks good". Again, "do you notice anything different", they respond again "no, but you're work outfit looks good". So............. I tell them "LOOK I HAVE BOOBS"! They realize it and say "ohhhhhhh, yeah, they look good, sorry we're used to you being flat now". All the more reason they should notice two size C's staring back at them............. REALLY????
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Jenn3- LMAO, about the new boobs, I guess it's about the same as a new haircut that the DH's never notice. My mom had prosthetic boobs and for some reason I kept them after she passed, probably because she used to tell me all the time how expensive they were. Well when my 17 year old daughter was getting ready for the prom I realized she was a little more endowed on top than usual, and discovered she was making good use of her meme's foobs!
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Hi Everyone~
I am so happy to catch up on how all of you are doing. So glad to see many have finished chemo and many so close to the end. I feel that I am on the home stretch now as today I had tx #7. 4 more to go!! My last treatment is New Years Eve. I told the nurses that I am going to bring champagne (sparkling cider of course). I was looking at picture that I keep on my bulleting board of my husband and I so carefree and happy at a New Years Eve party last year and at the time thinking of what a great year it would be. Well, life can sure turn on a dime. I have quite a different appreciation this year.
I too have hair growing back. Yeh!!!! My eyebrows are thinning and I lost my eyelashes but now my eyelashes are growing back. I have just very short eyelashes. My hair is white. It seems to be coming in nice and all over. My eyebrows are coming back white too. I had some gray and I am 44 but I was hoping for a different color!! Oh well, I am thrilled to have hair on my head!
Jenn 3 - in reading back a little I saw you mention the movie Christmas Vacation. We watch that every year on Thanksgiving night. It is one of my favorite movies. So funny! I think I laugh harder every time I see it. This year Hallmark has an Eddie Rv ornament. I got it for my Dad. It plays Eddie telling Clark about his RV. Ilove your "new boob" story. Did you get unblinded from the Avastin study? I think I get unblinded next week.
Donna~ I am so sorry you are having insurance issues. It does not seem fair that we have to fight for the tests that are for our health and well being. You have finished the hard part with the chemo and I am sure that you are going to stay well. My onc. said he does not do regular PET scans for followup. Anyone hear that?
Patty - I have continued to not have any neuropathy so maybe the B vitamin is working. I am just very tired and have a continuous bloody nose and some mouth sores that come and go. All in all I can not complain too much. I just have very little energy.
I hope that each of you has a great week.
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Donna - sorry to hear about insurance hassle. My Onc specifically told me that he didn't see a need for PET or CT scans on me. He said "We go fishing where we think there are fish", meaning, I guess, he isn't worried about mets since I have no symptoms or concerning blood test results. So maybe that's the thinking of the stingy insurance company too? The new proposed healthcare legislation, if passed, would prevent insurance companies from denying coverage due to pre-existing conditions...which we all have now BIG TIME. 'Course I don't think it addresses how much they can charge us because of the pre-existing condition..cha ching. Probably best to hang on to the insurance we have!
Jenn - congratulations on your new foobs! Also good luck going back to work. I think once you get back in the swing of things you'll be glad you're there. I'll be thinking you about you in the Chair tomorrow...me too. #4 for me, #10 (?) for you?
MaineCoonKitty - almost done! I hope the SE's remain minor.
Patty
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I'm back from chemo number #10, 2 more to go and I am finished. I was unblinded today and was receiving placebo. I am really disappointed, but it is what it is - that's the reason for the study so they can follow patients in different areas to see if the Avastin does make a difference. They'll follow me now for recurrance and how I'm doing for remaining SE's. Because I was receiving placebo I won't need the port, so that should come out right before I start rads, which will be in mid-January. I also asked about the PET scan and he said it's really not necessary, but will see if he can get it approved because my risk of recurrance is so high (Stage III, TN, 4 lymph nodes involved, two with large tumors showing the cancer was heading out). I'll let y'all know if the insurance company will agrees to the test. I know we all go through this towards the end of chemo - worry about mets and I'm there I am worried. As time goes on I'm sure my mind will ease and I'll find the new normal, but for now I am worried. Tonight is my Christmas dinner and I get to show off my new foobs............whoo hoo.
Donna - back to you - LMAO about your daughter, she is so funny. So........ did they stay in place?
Kayel - Whoo Hoo, then end is in sight. I was looking at last year's Christmas pictures and thinking the same thing you were. How much easier things seemed and how much we had last Christmas - no worries. This Christmas will still be fun, but I'm really looking forward to next Christmas. Gray eyebrows - hmmmm........... didn't think about that. I did notice that the little bitty eyelashes that I have are white looking. Strange.
Have a great Friday..........
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Hi all,
I got home from my surgery Wednesday night. Can't wait for the staples and drains to come out. Hoping to get at least two of the drains out Tuesday when I go in for my follow-up. I can only sleep in one position so it is drving me nuts. For some reason the right side has very little bruising but my left side looks like someone really beat me up. Now that I don't have boobs my stomach is looking really big. I will really have to start working on that once the surgeon says its okay to excercise.
My sister came up for Thanksgiving and stayed for my surgery which was really nice. However, she broke my cardinal rule (The two of us can't be sick at the same time). She needs to have surgury on her ear becasue it now has a hole in it. The rule exists because my mom can't be in two states at once.
Jenn it looks like we will be doing rads about the same time. I meet with my rad onc on the 21st and will find out when I will start for sure.
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Hi ladies. Day 4 after final TAC Tx. Pretty much kicked my butt. The fatigue is terrible this time around but I know it will get better and I should be in good shape by the time my Navyson and DIL come home for XMas.
Donna-I have BC/BS insurance and they will NOT approve a PET scan either. Also will only approve a chest and abdominal CT scan. NO Pelvic CT. I am pissed about not getting the pelvic because on my original scans back in May I had ovarian cysts and uterine fibroids and a slightly abnormal CA-125 marker. I am also a TN, Grade 3 IIa with 3 nodes. So I feel your worry. My scans are scheduled on the 15th and I just want to get them over with. I have no info/experience with rads. Onc says that because I had BMX and the 3 nodes(not 4) excluded me from that treatment. But of course I wish you the best. Please check out he Illinois ladies with BC thread-----they have discussed rads often and had all kinds of advise regarding different things to put on the skin for comfort and burn.
Take care everyone. My eyes are starting to cross a bit.......you know.....the Day 4 thing.
Navy
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Kim, congratuations on having your surgery behind you. It gets slowly better from here! I didn 't have an MX but after my lumpectomy I found putting a pillow next to me on the surgery side allowed me to lean a tiny bit on that side without pain. It felt a little better than flat on my back.
Jenn, hope you are having fun at your party and forgetting about all of the BC stuff! I fired up my ultra-magnification lighted makeup mirror and I also spied some very tiny, very white eyelashes! "Starter" lashes, you think? Teeny tiny brows coming in too. Nothing on the head, though!
NavyMom, congratulations on your last TAC. My Onc told me that is a tough regimin, because of the three drug combination. But effective! Hope you are feeling better soon and lucky you...no rads! Are you planning to get the extra scans at your own expense?
Had Taxol #4 today, no problems except the 'roid buzz this evening. One thing I've decided after getting all these steriods is I definitely do not see the attraction atheletes have for them. Maybe they get stronger but I've gotten no new muscles to speak of and the buzz and the warm flashes and the face flush are just a pain!
Have a good weekend everyone!
Patty
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Oh Jenn, so sorry to hear about getting the placebo. I can just imagine how disappointing that was, especially since you had such a hard time throughout your chemos. I love your attitude, though, that it is what it is.
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Good afternoon - Sorry I didn't check in yesterday - I went shopping on a Saturday and was worn out when I got home. I don't know what made me think I could get shopping done on a Saturday in December and not get worn out. Worse yet, I bought heavy stuff at the first store I walked into and had to carry it with me for the next few hours. I know better than that.......... guess I'll blame it on chemo brain.
I had a great time Friday night at the Christmas dinner. I even won a prize for having new foobs and got felt up by 18 women........... We realized Friday night that we've been doing this dinner for 16 years. Some of these women have since left the bank and we only see them at Christmas and somehow have managed to keep this dinner going. It seemed like yesterday that we were showing off pictures of our little ones and now they're either in college or getting ready for college. Wow - where does the time go? It only made us realize that even though some of only see each other once a year, friendships can melt the time away.
Patty - I hear ya' on that steroid buzz - I don't understand what there is to like about it. I have tiny white eyelashes too, I think it's starter lashes, but not sure - they are soooo tiny. Warning....be careful with the lighted mirrors you may find you have hair in places you don't want hair. I've also noticed the white fuzzies around my eyebrows. I think it may be time to go to the spa for a clean up of these white fuzzies on my face - ugh!
Weety - Thank you for the support................. Is that you and you're family?
And.............. I can't go without saying, my Saints went 12 - 0 - It was an ugly stressful win, but we won!!! Whoo Hoo!!!!!
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