November Rads 2009
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Hi ladies, I'd like to join in. Had my first rad today, 29 to go. I'v scanned through your posts. Very informative. Thanks for sharing.
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FWIW, I'm more than halfway along (started in Oct). The CT scan machine is MUCH noisier than the actual rad machine. The CT machine makes all these loud bangs. The rad machine makes some small clicks you have to concentrate on to hear (I have good hearing too). This is while the size of the opening is being adjusted. The rads themselves make a buzzing noise that is not loud either.
Just thought this might help. I was very anxious at first (cried buckets at my first sim appt, harder than I had at my diagnosis), but the actual rad appts have not been bad at all. and are now routine.
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11 of 30 complete
I am starting to pink up and I noticed bumps in my armpit - looks almost like razor burn (though I am NOT shaving) but it doesn't hurt. The doc said that my skin looks like it'll start to itch soon so she wrote a script for super duty hydrocortisone creme to have on hand.So far, so good.
I also made a decision to get my fat ass into the gym! I went this morning and walked 45 minutes on the treadmill. It felt great. The owner of the gym was so impressed that I was coming in during treatments that he gave me a years membership for free!! How cool is that!
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NikNak that's amazing about the gym membership! Good for you! I'm going to try to get in shape and start living more healthy as well. I want to make 30 minutes of exersice a day a part of my daily routine. Not always easy with a toddler but I'll find a way to make it work.
I've been noticing under my collarbone looks red and blotchy after treatment. It gets better over time although not back to normal. I still have a red spot right on my incision but I think it was a tiny bit better today.
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Haha, Lauren, I seriously deserve the giant pacifier award.
If nobody gives me one I'll make my own. I have lots of Sculpey. 
The plan for today is to take Klonopin and Xanax, stop off to buy a sleep mask and earplugs on the way, and take the train to rads so I won't have to drive while 'medicated'. I'm either going into the room backwards or I'm going to wear the mask and have them lead me, I haven't decided yet.

NikNak, that's so cool! I admire your determination!
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Good luck sparrow - If it helps I just closed my eyes and thought about my two young daughters. I'm in this fight for the long haul - so give me what you got!!!!
I went to the gym this morning and am now off to rads #2. I hope I still feel this positive when its @22.
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Good luck Sparrow! Let us know how you make out.
Rinna, I do the same thing. I think about my son and try to think about what he might be doing at that given moment. And I think about all the things we'll do together when this is all God willing in the past. I also think about cancer cells being zapped into oblivion. And I pray that it's working.
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Hello ladies,
Just finished 14-35 treatments. No skin problems just a little red. I stayed home from work for a couple of hours this morning I was just so tired.
I asked for a bill since I am leaving Germany in a month just after treatment ends. For the CT scan and 13 treatments it was about $3,700 dollars. I read someone say the entire treatment cost between 75-125K so it must be cheaper in Germany. I estimate the radiation therapy will end up costing around 10K.
I did my 40 min on the elipital yesterday. I think it helps. Hang in there ladies. When I lay in the table I just try to image myself on a warm beach and relax.
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8 of 33 done. yea.
A LOT MORE $$$ in the US. got another bill in the mail...erroneously. the price for one treatment is $863.88. so, 33 tx will be $28,508.04, that is if the boosts cost the same as a regular tx. No CT scan listed, but it does say RAD TX THREE+ AREAS 6-l0 MEV. Have no idea what this means. Anyone know? Will definitely ask my doc what it means next time I see her.
Worked out today too. Hoping I can keep it up the whole time. Anyone who's almost done still working out?
Deb
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Good grief, that's a BIG bill!!!
Well, I took the train today for tx #2 but was running late, so no earplugs or sleep mask for me.

I made them lead me into the room with my eyes closed and they put a towel over my eyes. If anything, today was worse than yesterday. I really don't know if I can keep this up. I couldn't even breathe. I'm going to ask for a script for Ativan since the Xanax isn't doing squat lately.
I had to call my DH to come pick me up. I couldn't even speak, I just boo-hooed into the phone.
I wonder if they can knock me out completely somehow, probably not.
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Sparrow, can you think of the radiation machine as a big superhero machine that is kicking cancer's a$$
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Momuska; I started monthly Zometa treatments in 2007, the same time I started rads on my left hip. I had about 6 weeks radiation that time. I'm still on the Zometa, and I had the Zometa right after my first radiation treatment this time around. Since it's on the same hip, I'm only getting 14 this time, and low dose.
I finished #7 today, so I'm halfway done. No damage to the skin yet, but my IBS has flared up, and I'm starting to feel the extra fatigue.
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Hi Ladies, I have completed 6 out of my 30 rads today. I am in pain, it hurts in mostly my chest. And lucky me I puke every day. I feel like I have been hit by a truck every other day, that is strange it is only every other day. WTF again. I am in and out quick now. It only takes about 5 min to position me then on to zap me, get changed again and out the door. I have to drive an hour each way so that blows. Glad to see we are all moving along.
I still havent received my COBRA paperwork so all of this is going to be a nightmare with the bills once I get them.
Much Love all
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cherneski - I also drive an hour to get to rads...it sucks! I am sorry that you are so sick, did chemo treat you the same way?
Sparrow - hopefully ativan will be a better fit for you...you do have the strength to continue, you just have to get your head in the game : )
I had #12 today. My chest is getting more and more red but luckily it's not terribly uncomfortable yet. I decided not to go in on Sunday and will also get a break on Thursday and Friday
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Hi Sparrow:
I was suffering from panic attacks last year when my thyroid went on the fritz and was helped greatly by a CD by Belleruth Naperstek. You can find more information at www.healthjourneys.com and check it out. The section that helped me immensely were the affirmations which always bring me back to a peaceful place within. I now use them for radiation but only get through a few of them before the session is over, it happens so quickly.You can download the MP3 instantly. Practice the affirmations for a few hours - you will be amazed, I promise!!! The section starts out with these words..."I declare my intention to heal myself in body, mind and spirit" and goes from there. Worth a try and can be used with or without ativan! -
This will put a smile on your face!
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This will put a smile on your face. Just copy link and paste to your browser.
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Janets1, thanks for that! I love Belleruth Naparstek.
I have some relaxation tapes that she put out in the 90s but I don't have a cassette tape player anymore. I'm going download & listen to one before I go in today. I don't think I can listen to it when the machine is running, I'm going to need some really good earplugs. The buzzing it makes freaks me out.I haven't taken Xanax or Klonopin in a long time. I was only taking them as needed for doctor visits. I just read the labels again. It says to take 1/2 a tab of Klonopin twice a day and 1 Xanax twice a day. I'm going to try following the directions and see if that helps. I already feel better. I'm not shaking anymore and I feel much calmer. Whew!!! Maybe I won't need the Ativan after all.
lissak, loved that video!

Lisa1970, how are you doing? Did you make it through your CT scan OK?
Is anyone else trying the 1 glass of red wine a day thing to prevent radiation burns? I forgot to do that the first day but I had a glass last night. We'll see if it helps... Apparently 1 glass works, 2 not so well and 1/2 a glass doesn't have any effect.
I also read on this forum that 10% cider vinegar soaks help with burning. My doctor seemed dubious about this but she said it wouldn't hurt to try. I'm considering starting that before I even begin to pink up.
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Hi Sparrow:
Glad you know of Belleruth.....sometimes people think I'm going all "new age" on them when I suggest her programs.....but they are very, very effective. I listen to the affirmations at night when going to sleep and in the morning before I get out of bed. That way they are in my head and stick with me....and the ones that are meaningful (like the one I mentioned) are the ones I can repeat to myself while getting zapped. Here's the funny thing....I've had 3 treatments so far and my life is so hectic and nuts right now that I actually find the 6 or so minutes I lie there are the most peaceful of the day - because it's the one true time I am doing something for me, and me alone.I wish you peace and will "see" you on the discussion board soon.
Janet
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Had #5/33 today. Now I really feel part of the group. Have a good weekend everyone.
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Hello ladies,
I like the imagery about taking 5 min .for your self. I am very peaceful when I go in. The machine does not close around me it just moves from place to place. My only problem is that the doctor said not to breath deeply once and thats all I want to do.
Here is another difference in Germany besides 1/3 the cost of treatment. They do not tatoo you. The mark me with a marker and put tape over it. It works good but I had them remove it between my breast because it was itchy. I look odd with blue pen all over my chest but it beats tatoos. I think.
I went and worked out in a back room of the gym and decided not to wear my hat. My hair is a 1/4 inch long and it looks bald but I did not feel like sweating as much. The only one that was there was a bald guy so who cares.
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lissak, The pink glove dance really did make me smile
n Thanks for sharing it.gjlanders Where I go for Rads, I was not tatooed either. They marked me wiith a blue marker and covered it with clear tape.
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Hey, gjlanders!
They didn't tattoo me either. I have black sharpie xs covered with clear tape circles. They told me tattooing was 'old school'. I didn't want tattoos anyway. 
#3 went much better than #2!
I guess I'm going to have to stay on the drugs till this is over, they really help! Ugh, I always think I don't need them anymore when apparently I do... Also, the sleep mask I bought is awesome and the ear plugs REALLY help. I can daydream and *almost* not even notice the machine is there. I never even saw it today. I did have a little trouble breathing but no tears.
I think I can actually do this!!!
I arranged it with my techs so I can sign in and wait on a bench outside the building. This helps a bunch. The patient 'waiting room' is really a hallway with chairs crammed into it. I always get claustrophobic in there and I can hear other people getting buzzed- ugh!

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Red wine??? Really? I wonder if you can drink while taking Xanex? Tamoxifin? It's been so long since I've had a drink. But a glass of wine sounds great right now.
Finished #13 today! Yeah!
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amlg1,I just finished #10 rads, and yes it does go pretty quick once you are in there. Have you had any problems with rads? I am just red so far. Do you go to Sloan on LI for treatment??
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Hey Lauren!
I found this about Xanax & alcohol: 'Do not drink alcohol while taking Xanax. This medication can increase the effects of alcohol'. I knew that already- but if it's 1 glass of wine, how much could it 'increase the effects'? It never seemed to make it stronger to me... maybe I should stop the red wine thing anyway. 
I don't know much about Tamoxifen yet. I did read that red wine can trigger hot flashes on Tamox, though.
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I would not do the wine with xanax. Ask your doctor to be sure, but most drugs for anxiety say no alcohol. I believe it "potentiates" the drug, meaning it makes the effects more intense: which is not predictable and could be dangerous. There are a number of drugs that help to potentiate others: this is why, for example, acetaminophen is added to codeine. The amount of codeine can be reduced (thus fewer side effects) because the acetaminophen makes the codeine work better. Alcohol potentiates a lot of different drugs. For example, people die from combining alcohol with barbiturates because the alcohol makes the dose of the barbiturate effectively stronger. My dad was on xanax, I remember the doctor telling us no wine, or only a small glass for a special occasion. (daily rads would not count, I think!)
There was a thread sometime back, saying 1 glass of red wine helped prevent burning. A search would probably turn up the thread. I tried it, but could not do it consistently. It makes me so sleepy that my day would end with dinner if I did. And wine at bedtime is not good either, as it causes waking later in the night. I have enough trouble sleeping through the night without that.
I am toasty now after 25 treatments but the aloe 2x day (should have been 3, but it's too hard to get undressed during the day) helped a lot. My skin looks burned but is not that sore except for the nipple, which got dark, cracked and dry. The rad doctor prescribed Radiaplex cream last week, which is even better than aloe. Very soothing. The hospital pharmacy carries it. I tried the greasy ointments (like Aquaphor) recommended here but they were much too hard to get off before treatments. They feel great on, but if you have to scrub to remove them, that is harder on the skin. It makes the skin hurt and feel like it is burning after a treatment if I fail to get it all off, which must be very bad. So I'm sticking to the Radiaplex or aloe now.
I am more sore on the inside than the outside, but Aleve or ibuprofen help very well with that.
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Hmmm, I guess I'll skip the wine, then.
I'm feeling really tired anyway. It would probably put me right to sleep. -
uuugggghhh!!!! got 2 more bills in the mail today. can they PLEASE use the right billing code for my insurance? Radiation is stressful enough. Do I really need to keep calling the billing department too?
maybe i'll drink that glass of wine for you
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Hi guys,
I was off my computer for the last few days and was totally surprised at all the posts.
Tomorrow will be #18/30. I am tender to touch and shrinking rapidly. One side is now a B cup down from D...
I went to the library and pulled some books to read. All mention few experience shrinkage, more swollen and tender. I just worry that my "boob" doesn't relax after treatment and I'll be lopsided for ever.
My daughter and husband want to come with me to "rads" tomorrow (because it's Sunday) and they don't have to work. I bet the techs will be surprised at the herd coming in with me.
I have Kaiser for health ins. and so far have only paid $13.00 for my surgery. The radiation isn't through Kaiser, they don't have facilities for this but contract out. I was told to forward any incoming bills but still worry what my co-pay will be.
Marcia
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