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  • Kimmer51
    Kimmer51 Member Posts: 26
    edited November 2009

    Last RAD yesterday!  Two more Taxol treatments and then onto Tamoxifen.  Getting there slowly but surely!

  • liztaylor1
    liztaylor1 Member Posts: 95
    edited November 2009

    Dear Verna,

    This is so nice of you.  Thank you.  Tomorrow, I'll be wearing a "bell" around my neck all day long.  I don't care what high fallooting meeting I'm at - that bell gets rung!!!

    Somebody probably already talked about this - but, I have a soreness under my breast - like where a rib is?  Is anyone else having this?

    Slathering on the silvadene.  My poor red boob of courage.

    BTW: finally have a breast MRI scheduled (for early January) - there's a small area of concern in my unaffected breast.  Well, I am concerned if they aren't!!

    All the way in to work today, I pretty told off that group of scientists who believe that 1 life saved by early detection (40 year old women) isn't that "important".  Hog wash.  Every precious woman's life is important.  There.  I feel better.

    Love,

    Liz

  • liztaylor1
    liztaylor1 Member Posts: 95
    edited November 2009

    OOPS.  Kimmer, our messages must have come in at the same time.

     BELL RINGING LOUDLY for you!!!!!!!!

    Good job.

    Liz

  • PauldingMom
    PauldingMom Member Posts: 927
    edited November 2009

    Well crappity crap crap, just found out I I am getting 8 boost not 5. So my last day will be on Wednesday the 25th. Oh well, as long as it gets rid of this I'll go 100 times. 

    Liz-love the bell idea. "You can ring my bell, bell, bell. Ring my bell!" is an old pop song. 

  • tracyanne
    tracyanne Member Posts: 112
    edited November 2009

    Liz, I too am having bad pain at the rib under the breast, and my radiologist explained it to me today.  He brought out his anatomy book and showed me how each rib is half cartilage and half bone (the outer half is bone, the inner half toward the heart is cartilage).  Those two "halves" have a joint of cartilage connecting them, and it is that joint that gets inflamed with radiation treatments.  That's why the pain is so easy to point to...it's not a generalized soreness but a real "spot" of very bad pain.

    He's having me take 400 mg of ibuprofen three times a day to reduce the inflammation, and he gave me hydrocodone for the pain.  He also told me that it would get worse before it got better.  I was saying how glad I was I had only four boosts left and was done, and he didn't want me to get my hopes up that I'd be pain free after Tuesday.

    I was given the domobro (sp?) stuff today too...soak four times a day for fifteen minutes using a washcloth.  The package says it's aluminum acetate.  Aluminum!  So strange, all this radiation stuff. 

    The pain under my arm is bad, too.  The burn there is a deep purple and feels like it goes so deep.  No peeling for me yet, just the red/purple burn square getting darker every day.  Nausea continues off and on...lots of crackers and 7 up lunches for me lately.

  • vtmom
    vtmom Member Posts: 46
    edited November 2009

    When I got to the center today, I was told the radiation machine was broken. The technician felt so bad... but I was jumping for joy. My poor brave nipple needed a day off. It is cut, painful and oozing.

    Tonight I put the domeboro in a warm water in a shallow bowl, and set myself up so my poor brave nip could soak in it. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Felt really good. Afterwards I peeled off the dead ooze, dried it well and slathered it with aloe. Thinking I'll do it again before bed.

    Pauldingmom - really sorry to hear that you have 3 more zaps then you thought. That would be unsettleing. I do so enjoy crossing my zaps off the calendar. Would be hard to add 3 more.

    I'm hoping I can get zapped 2 times in 1 day next week, so I can be done on Wed. and not have to go back after Thanksgiving. ONLY 7 more to go!

    Colette... haven't heard from you in a while. How ya doing honey?

    Ringing a bell for all of you that have finished getting zapped! Congrats, Congrats!

  • linn56
    linn56 Member Posts: 210
    edited November 2009

    I also am having pain at the rib, where it meets the sternum. I asked the rad doctor about it 2 weeks ago when it first showed up, and she said it was "probably not related." I didn't buy that as I have seen too many people here mentioning it. Tracyanne, the explanation your doctor  gave makes sense. It also is a small sharp pinpoint, not overall. It is easy to distinguish from the overall breast soreness I have. I notice it most when exercising or bending/twisting in ways that affect the rib cage.  Also when I lay on my left (non-radiation) side. I am taking Aleve for the general pain, maybe it has been helping with the rib pain as well.

    Counting boosts, I will be done about Dec 3. I had to take an hour and a half long highway drive today and had to face the fact that I am not up to a longer drive. I don't feel that tired but find I am dizzy when driving. Today I had to drive on the right side all the way, thinking at any second I would have to pull off. Driving on curves is the worst. The non-highway, stop-and-go driving I do to get to my rad appt is no problem. I am supposed to pick up my daughter at college for Thanksgiving, the Wednesday before. I can tell now I won't be able to do it. I started feeling it at the beginning of rads and now it is getting worse. Weird. I'm wondering if rads have caused my body to be short of some vital nutrient. Anyone have this?

    Vtmom: you are finally getting down to the wire. Sorry you are having so much pain. Hope you ARE done at Thanksgiving.

    Congratulations to all who are done!

  • White929
    White929 Member Posts: 53
    edited November 2009

    Chocolate wine...wow that sounds delicious...I'll have to check into that around here!  I do not have a website as yet because I need to register my name,etc.  I am also moving my business to my commercial building I own because it is growing so much that I don't have room in my living room for a christmas tree!  So, I as soon as I get all my ducks in a row...I'll let you know!

    Last radiation is tomorrow!!!! I cannot wait!  I have been so very lucky as I have not had the SEs I have been ready that so many of you have.  My heart goes out to all of you.  Hang in there as things will get better!  I don't have any pain in my ribs.  Occasionaly I have a shooter through my boob but that is about it.  I put special cream they gave me on once a day and haven't had any sores or anything for which I am grateful.

    Well...going to bed now.  I have noticed I am more tired than usual.  Night All!Kiss

  • Colette37
    Colette37 Member Posts: 387
    edited November 2009

    EP3, BauldingMom, VTMom, Kime, Liztaylor and all, thank you for your thoughts.  I have been visiting the "new guidelines" thread a lot because I am so ticked off about it it isn't even funny.  I am infuriated because it will make it harder for my daughter to get the care she needs to prevent from being in the same predicament that I am in now.  I could have saved 2 years on treatment had I been listened to in 2007 and I would have had choices, unlike what I have now.  It was a new GYN fresh out of college who was basing my treatment on those guidelines because it states only women 40+ need to worry about it.  Well, now it will be even WORSE.  MTG..I know you have read me non stop today about it!  I also know that everyone feels the same way I do about the BS.

    Anyway..about me.  I didn't have rads yesterday.  I was so angry yesterday evening, that I got my shoes on and went for a walk...to where my husband called my cell worried about me.  He point blank told me that he was coming to get me because he didn't want me walking in the dark and was worried about me.  He was upset with what the nurse said too. 

    So, today I went in knowing that I would be seeing the Dr.   My husband point blank said that he was coming with me and we would have to bring the kids (the hospitals around here are freaking out about swine flu and have pandemic signs everywhere and don't want kids in the hospital)  He point blank said that if they don't let him come in then we would leave...of course it didn't come to that and everyone understood.  The receptionist was ticked that the nurse said what she did and even watched Phoebe (my 1 year old) while we took the boys back with the Dr!  She is a sweetheart anyway.  When we went back to see the Dr. the nurse was amazingly polite (my hubby though she looks like she was a rude person by the air she had with her).  The Radiation Oncologist was asking about my scrubbing my skin (which I never did) and I explained, I didn't know how to get the Silverdene off because it clumped so badly..we also explained about the honey and that it wasn't the regular honey.  Anyway, the Dr. felt that it was THEIR fault for not explaining about the stuff better.  He then said I should have the rest of the week off.  I told him that I couldn't and that if I stopped it would be the end because William needs to go back to work.  I asked him if I could just continue and he said yes and that I would burn more, which I know, but that is something I will live with. 

    My skin looks so bad that when I was getting my first boost today one tech asked the  other if they were going to mark me with a marker  and she looked at him like he was crazy and said, "I am not going to touch that skin..YOU can if you want but I am not!"  It is not taking much for the skin to just sluff off and leave the red weeping sores.

    I swore that if I ever got this bad, I would just stop the treatment...and then I found out what stage I was in.  I couldn't live with myself if I had stopped and it came back..I would feel like I let my husband and kids down and that I didn't do everything in my power to get rid of it.

    So, that was how my day went!  I am tired and sore, but one more day done!

  • Colette37
    Colette37 Member Posts: 387
    edited November 2009

    VTMom...I felt that I made some real progress today..I now only have FOUR boosts left!  YEAH!!  Although I need more pain medicine I will deal with that tomorrow when I go for rads.

    I am hoping you are doing better now too!  Isn't it odd how we get so happy when something happens outside of anything that we did and we can't get the rads...It is as if it is reiterating that you are doing everything that you can, but it feels good that it seems like something or someone else is looking out for you and knows that you need a break and so gave you one!  Ok, I should get to bed, because I am getting too sentimental here!  LOL  The percecet and tiredness is taking over I think!  LOL!!!  Take care and I am happy that you had a break today.

    I hope everyones rads goes by quickly and know that I am thinking of you all and are keeping you in my prayers!  Hugs!

  • White929
    White929 Member Posts: 53
    edited November 2009

    Colette37:  Sorry to hear you are having such a time with the rads....you are right, if you quit and it comes back you will never forgive yourself with the "what ifs".....so keep in keepin on.  I remember thinking going through chemo that it would never end but it did.  My rads end today and I can't hardly believe it.  Since I'm TN this is all they can do for me now.  I need to start exercising and changing my diet which I'm trying to do.  I'll pray that things get easier for you.  Take care.

  • PauldingMom
    PauldingMom Member Posts: 927
    edited November 2009

    VTmom-Cringing at the thought of the sore nip. Ouch!!! Has your doc given you anything else? Aloe is nice but it doesn't do much for the pain. 

    Collette- Laughing my butt off. My name is PauldingMom but BauldingMom makes so much more since!!! I am sending you off a prayer that your boost go well and you start healing quickly. I know it's hard with little ones, but you probably need some good sleep and rest. If you are like me the pain keeps me up because when you move it hurts. You may want to put William on night patrol and take some sleeping meds. Just my suggestion.

    White929- I didn't know you were TN. That's where my mom is. She is near Maryville. I betcha you feel like I do. Being triple neg it's kinda weird to be at the end now. I haven't found much more they can do for us after Rads. I am drinking Asparagus juice mixed with Tomato juice. Asparagus is suppose to have something good in it to prevent reoccurance of BC. Exercise and weight loss for me is on the program too. Also cut out my daily cocktail and switched to a single glass of red wine. Of course the Multi-Vit, Vit. D, E and Calcium daily. Let me know if you hear of something else available.  

  • Suzanne3131
    Suzanne3131 Member Posts: 3,953
    edited November 2009

    Hooray Kimmer51 and White 929!  I am so happy for you!  Watching you all cross the finish line brings me understanding that I can do it too!

     Happy happy holidays, all you girls out there!!  Wishing you comfort and joy!

  • Sunone
    Sunone Member Posts: 151
    edited November 2009

    Colette - Good luck on your last 4 boosts, hopefully your will heal quickly afterwards. (((Hugs!))) to you and send some hugs to your husband too, he sounds like he is being very supportive and watching out for you, that's great.

  • Colette37
    Colette37 Member Posts: 387
    edited November 2009

    PauldingMom...I am glad that I was able to get you to laugh..even though I didn't mean to!  Laughing  It makes me feel like I did something positive!  I now only have 3 left and I can get through it...at least there are places where I have sores where they are no longer doing the rads so it can heal, so there is a positive part in it all.  William already has been doing nightly stuff ever since I was on chemo because I was on ambien CR..and I am now on it again.  I am so thankful that I have a wonderful hubby!

    kime  thanks for the thoughts...And I will give him a hug..He has been my rock and what I keep thinking about when I keep going forward with my treatments.  The one area over my sternum has already started  to heal!  Yay!

    The bad part though, is I think we all have reinfected ourselves...I came home after rads and I started developing a fever..I don't know if it is because of the sores on my chest (I am on antibiotics for those things for profolactic) or if it is because I reinfected myself with the flu that I had on Sat...Nap time now...hugs everyone!

  • liztaylor1
    liztaylor1 Member Posts: 95
    edited November 2009

    First of all, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT.  I will never forget you and your kindness to me.

    Tracy: thanks for the information!!

    Finally, started to ring the bell as soon as I got up this morning.  Walked up to the check in desk, ringing the bell.  Then, proceeded to the patient/family area - ringing the bell for THEM (smile).  Next, changed into the blue gown, went to the patient waiting area (in our place, a fairly dismal room) - about 5 folks in there.  RANG the bell. One woman (hadn't see her before) said it was HER last day, too, and SHE wanted to ring the bell.  She did and then we knuckled bumped!

    So, I thought, what the heck.  I hung the bell (which was on a rope) on the bulletin board.  Asked the other patients to promise that they will ring on THEIR last days, too.  They promised.

    My boob is dark red but it'll heal.  When I was on the table today, I finally cried - hard.  This is the first time I've cried since the diagnosis on 8/24.  It was bound to happen and I feel a lot better.

    My very best to you all.  We are on this journey, each of us alone, but yet together.

    Love,

    Liz

  • MTG
    MTG Member Posts: 646
    edited November 2009
    LizTaylor1 - Ok, that's not fair. I'm a really upbeat person and this doesn't make sense but your simple gesture of leaving the bell on the bulletin board has made me tear up. It really is a beautiful thing to do. Congratulations on finishing rads and on being a really good person !
  • vtmom
    vtmom Member Posts: 46
    edited November 2009

    Nice to read everyone moving forward. Thanks so much for being there ya'll. It really helps having a bunch of someones who really understand. Must have been really hard for bc ladies of yesteryears who did not have the internet to connect with other pink ladies while going through the emotional and physical ups and downs of bc.

    Today I had my last full zap. Tomorrow I move on to boosts. 5 days 6 boosts. The last day I go out with a double dip - 8:30 am & back again at 3:30.

    My brave little nip is hanging in there. Really helped to have a day off, and the domeboro the nurses recommended has really helped a lot. I'm soaking my nipple in 1/2 packet in 1 cup warm water for 15 min. then letting it air dry. It seems to pull out the goop from my infection (which I wipe away with a paper towel) and then it seems to dry up the open wound.

    Found out today that the sore spot on my nip is so close to my incision that it will be in the boost area. Oh Well.... only 5 more days then it will just be a story from my past.

    I had an acupuncture treatment today. It's almost hard to believe that having a couple of needles in my arms & lets for about 20 min. can make such a difference to how I feel. It seems to bring me back to equilibrium. I have more energy and feel more balanced emotionally & physically.

    I've been following the "Natural Girl' thread for a couple of days. Lots of talk of how to support the body after treatment with supplements, food, yoga, exercise. Since I have decided not to take Tamoxifen, I have no more treatments.... so I'm going to make some major changes in my life to help my body stay as healthy as possible and never have to go down the bc road again.

  • vtmom
    vtmom Member Posts: 46
    edited November 2009

    Oh, and Liz - I have a bell I plan to bring on my last day to ring, and will now leave behind with the front desk gals to start a tradition for folks to "Ring The Bell" on the day of their last treatment!

    It is a brandy new treatment center. I'm the 3rd person to get zapped, and will be the 1st person to be finished.

  • Eph3_12
    Eph3_12 Member Posts: 4,781
    edited November 2009

    MTG-whisper Your avatar looks familiar!!!

    Liz, congrats-love the bell!! I'm actually visiting my techs tomorrow after my doctor visit-it'll be a week since my last boost-I'm gonna tell them I couldn't go another day without seeing themSmile If I can find a bell, I'll take it in!

    Collette & vtmom-almost there!  What a thanksgiving we all will have!

    Joni

     

  • Colette37
    Colette37 Member Posts: 387
    edited November 2009

    Yeah!  Everyone!  I am so proud of all of you wonderful ladies!

  • josybee
    josybee Member Posts: 86
    edited November 2009

    Hi Ladies,Finished #10 yesterday. (18 more to go) I am a little red but I keep putting my creams on, also drinking a glass of red wine each night. Congrats to all who have finished rads!!! Hope eveyone has a nice Holiday!!!

  • vtmom
    vtmom Member Posts: 46
    edited November 2009

    Ouchy, ouch, ouch, ouch!

    My brave broken nip is in the field of my boost. Had the 1st of 6 yesterday and it did not like it at all. I continue to soak it in domeboro to pull out the infection. I have found the best way to get a good soak is to put the soaking solution in a sake' cup (looks kind of like a shot glass) lean my nipple in and the sit up while holding the sake' cup in place for 15 min.

    The wound is looking very ugly... and the doc. didn't want me to put anything on it to start healing it till after my boosts. But I had to do something, so I put a smiggen of tea tree oil in my sake' cup and put that on my wound. Feels better already.

    Don't know if any of you have played around with tea tree oil, but I just love the stuff. It stops a yeast infection immediately and is great on cold sores - BUT, you use just a teeny, tiny amount deluted in water.

    4 more days, 4 more days..... OMG, I am so ready to be done with this phase of my life.

    Hope you and yours are doing well.  

  • linn56
    linn56 Member Posts: 210
    edited November 2009

    VTMom, did you say why you decided against the Tamoxifen? Excuse me if you have said this already. My diagnosis is much like yours (DCIS, Stage 0, Grade 3, ER+/PR+: except that my tumor was bigger, at 1.6 cm), that's why I'm wondering. I have only 2 more regular treatments then I start my 5 boosts.

    I also had an acupuncture treatment yesterday! My hospital has a pilot program for cancer patients (just one treatment). I feel like the swelling is down, and I slept much better than usual last night. Pain is about the same. I'm wondering if its the acupuncture or wishful thinking.

    Thanks for mentioning the tea tree oil. I have some. My incision is looking angry.

  • vtmom
    vtmom Member Posts: 46
    edited November 2009

    Re: deciding against tomaxifen. After a ton of research I decided not to take this drug for the next 5 yrs. It adds a very small % to the cancer not coming back, and has terrible side effects and a % of creating bigger problems then the bc I had.

    I have been a workaholic for a long time, and am taking this whole thing as a huge kick in the butt to get my act together. I decided I will make some major changes in my life style and get this body into good physical shape.  I quit drinking coffee, and am working on improving my diet. Will start drinking green tea as soon as I am done with radiation, and will start an exercise program as soon as I get my energy back.... which I am hoping will be in the next 2 weeks.

    Question to all you who have finished with radiation: Did you find the boosts more tiring then the regular treatments? How long after being done with radiation did your wounds heal? How long before your energy came back?

    Today I have been fried. Slept on and off all day, and it's not quite 8:30 and I'm ready for bed. Is this from the boost or just an accumulation of all the radiation?

  • Eph3_12
    Eph3_12 Member Posts: 4,781
    edited November 2009

    vtmom-I'd say accumulation.  By the time I finished my boosts last week, I was tired, but so elated at being done that it lifted me up.  I haven't been near as tired as I was 3-4 weeks ago.  I did nap today, but it felt extravagant, not necessary & that lifted my spirits too.  Hang in there!

  • tracyanne
    tracyanne Member Posts: 112
    edited November 2009

    Two boosts left for me.  My rad onco said the dose is the same, just that the fielf is narrower, so I do think our tiredness is a result of the accumulation of radiation and not just the boosts. 

    The pain of the rib cartilage inflammation is controlled well by the hydrocodone, but the skin pain sure is intensifying. I can't see blisters per se, but I do see little red bumps now on the red skin at the fold under the breast.  Keeping up with the soaks and the cream, but ouch, ouch, ouch is right.  Vtmom, the shot glass image brought a smile to my face--how creative of you! 

    I wonder if tamoxifen's effectiveness is in part based on just how ER positive a cancer is.  Mine was 90% ER positive.  I've decided to try it, and figure I can stop if the side effects become bad.  I fear weight gain the most.  I worked very hard to lose an extra 40 pounds before this cancer thing came along and I would feel so discouraged to have it come back.

    I too plan to adopt more healthy habits.  I've never been a tea drinker, but I have found through trial and error a green tea drink that I like...it's green tea with raspberry, sold pre-packaged in the same aisle as the ocean spray cranberry juice, V-8, and such.  I also have been eating more green veggies and fresh fruit.  I quit going to the gym three weeks ago--just too fatigued and sore, and didn't want to expose myself to the flu virus any more than being a schoolteacher already exposes me!  Will start again soon after radiation ends on Tuesday.

    I hope this poor skin regains some softness.  It feels like elephant-hide leather now.  Not like my skin at all.

  • sopris
    sopris Member Posts: 29
    edited November 2009

    I have 3 boosts left.  Never thought the end would come.  Live skin peeling off hurts like heck.  I am gonna just have to grit my teeth and get thru this last bit of pain, I guess.  I have made my hubby or a good friend come with me for the last few days.  It really makes a difference to have somebody who loves me nearby.  

    For those of you who have intensely sore nipples, ask for a mepilex lite dressing,  It is a silicone dressing that lightly sticks to you skin. It really stabilizes things and keeps cloth against skin from further irritating what is already so raw.  It has helped me a lot with pain in that very tender area.  The lidocaine also helps, but this seems to block the terrible itching, too.

    By the way, I love the idea of the bell.  Think I'm gonna have to find one and post a sign.  My last day of Wednesday!  A REAL THANKSGIVING DAY for me, I can tell you that.

  • liztaylor1
    liztaylor1 Member Posts: 95
    edited November 2009

    HI,

    For those of you with sore nipples:  hang in there!!  Think pain meds.....

    I decided not to take tamoxifen, too.  Just didn't want the side effects - figured the surgery plus rads would account for enough of the decrease in stats re: reoccurrence.

    BELLS are ringing!!!!!!  Can you hear them???

    Love,

    Liz

  • vtmom
    vtmom Member Posts: 46
    edited November 2009

    My poor body is loosing it. It feels soooo 'out of balance'. I have a huge canker sore on the side of my tongue, I feel slightly nauseous, I woke up tired and my nipple does not want any more zaps.

    The worst part for me is I have always been a cup half full kinda girl, and lately my cup is feeling almost empty. It's like the radiation is sucking the life out of my cup.... guess I need to drink more water, eh?

    3 more days, 3 more days, 3 more days!

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