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  • Brendatrue
    Brendatrue Member Posts: 1,830
    edited November 2009

    Just checking in to see how everyone is holding onto motivation and movement these days. I decided to take a 3 day weekend to rest and move some when I felt like it, only to be called away in the middle of the first day for another health crisis with my mother. I am still away today and feel lucky to have been able to stretch for 15 minutes earlier this evening. I am tired but I can't get my mind to stop--yet. I am hopeful that tomorrow will be a better day....

  • ktym
    ktym Member Posts: 2,637
    edited November 2009

    Jess, hard to start back in after a break, but sometimes our bodies need a little rest.

    Brendatrue, sorry to hear about your Mom, hope things turn out ok

    Beautiful weather here yesterday enjoyed a long walk with DH.  Not sure what I'm in the mood for today, but do need to get a little liting in.  

  • sobx
    sobx Member Posts: 435
    edited November 2009

    My trip to see DS has been cancelled thanks to Ida. There aren't any roads up there and the ferry I was taking has been cancelled. So I will take the 3 days off and do whatever. I will start at the center and see what they have to offer and just relax. Maybe take the Dd over to the beach and let her run and spend more quality time with her. Like she doesn't get attention now! At least the sun is shining at this time.

    Brendatrue - hope everything works out for you. Give your mom cyber hugs from us!

    Working PM and then off for 3 days. Can't wait. Planning a hot chocolate and brownie sale for the Flottilla in December. (Xmas parade on water) Proceeds to the ACS. Everyone have a great Sunday. 

  • Ainm
    Ainm Member Posts: 781
    edited November 2009

    My friends 19 year old son has been missing since the early hours of Thursday morning. He's my daughters friend - they've known each other since they were 2, they went all through school together and now they are in the same university.  He never arrived back to his accommodation after a night out with friends on Wednesday. He was picked up on CCTV outside a Mc Donald's in the city at 1.45am and nothing since, and no answer from his cell phone.  He's a steady, award winning student and it would not be in his nature to just go walkabout.  My DD is extremely upset, she, my DS and my DH joined about 500 others to search the city on Friday and Saturday but then the land search was called off and today they only concentrated on the river - it's not looking good. The thinking is that he must have fallen into the river. We are just devastated - I cannot believe this is happening. I feel so ineffective - I'm numb and I was so scared bringing my DD back to uni tonight because I just know she and this lovely, lovely lads heartbroken friends are going to keep looking - they need to find him no matter what the outcome is.  This lads mum is a good friend and it is horrendous to think of what she and her husband are going through - he was their youngest.  Is there any good left in this world.

  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 9,430
    edited November 2009

    Oh, Ainm, what a heartbreaking situation.  I was just headed out for a walk and will spend the entire hour or so talking to God about this.  Already praying that there's an explanation no one's considered, and a happy outcome to the situation.   (((Hugs)))  Deanna

  • pk0199
    pk0199 Member Posts: 586
    edited November 2009

    Ainm, I am sending my prayers that this young man is found safe and sound.

    Penny 

  • ktym
    ktym Member Posts: 2,637
    edited November 2009

    Ainm: so sorry to hear that. My heart goes out to all of you

  • jrgolomb
    jrgolomb Member Posts: 1,236
    edited November 2009

    So sad to hear this news ainm. 

  • saltykm
    saltykm Member Posts: 125
    edited November 2009

    Anim, Prayers being sent that this young man is found safe.

  • Springtime
    Springtime Member Posts: 5,355
    edited November 2009

    Anim, that is horrible. What a nightmare. Let us know if there is any news. 

    It was in th e70's and sunny and warm here over the wkend. Did gardening, walked both days,and did yoga. :) 

  • sobx
    sobx Member Posts: 435
    edited November 2009

    Anim - prayers heading your way. Let us all know what is happening.

  • kfinnigan
    kfinnigan Member Posts: 1,729
    edited November 2009

    Ainm, prayers heading your way from here too sweet sister.  Keep us posted.  Big hugs.

  • Ainm
    Ainm Member Posts: 781
    edited November 2009

    Fifth day of searching has drawn to an unsuccessful end - another heartbreaking night for the parents and family of the young lad who is missing. I think the most we can hope for now is that we would at least find a body so that his family can lay him to rest properly. It's such a tragic accident, so so sad - I'm just living in a nightmare since it happened so what must it be like for his family.  I'm sorry to be taking over the motivation thread with such a depressing item but I just have no one to talk to about it, my DD is too upset, my DH is resigned to the worst and my friend is the lads mother so I'm trying to support her which is so hard because I just don't know what to say to her. Sorry.

  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 9,430
    edited November 2009

    Happy to report that I walked just over 19 miles last week (5 days), which is a huge improvement over the previous few weeks since my surgery.  And I did 4.8 miles this a.m., so a good start for this week.  Unfortunately, my mind isn't nearly as "healthy."  Don't know what is going on, but I feel like I'm in such a rut, and even all that fresh air isn't helping to reinvigorate me.  I suspect it's just one more hurdle to overcome in this journey we're all on and trying to figure out.  It's like now that bc is hopefully behind me, why don't I have any enthusiasm for anything?  I think I need a fresh, new challenge, but I'll be darned if I know what!   Anyone else?

    Ainm, continuing to pray for your friend's son...   

    Where is everyone else?????    Deanna

  • kfinnigan
    kfinnigan Member Posts: 1,729
    edited November 2009

    Ainm, you can talk about anything here, we are here to support one another.  I am praying for the boy's family and him and that somebody finds something soon!  A similar tragedy happened to one of my coworkers a few years ago.  A few years back her boyfriend went missing after he attended a college party.  Nobody could find him, flyers up, volunteers everywhere.  Unfortunately, his car was found in the brush on the side of the freeway here by CalTrans workers but he didn't make it.  Too many days had gone by.  My DDs knew the boy.  Suffice to say, my coworker (she didn't work here at the time, but she's talked a lot about it to me) was distraught and it nearly destroyed her when he was discovered.  sorry to bring that up...

    Deanna, others have been complaining of being down lately, do you think its the weather or the shorter days of sunlight?  The new normal of not being in active treatment and the "what ifs"?  I'm on Tamox for 5 years, but the what ifs will always be there and I try of course to stay positive and motivated...who knows...I do know, we've come so far in this journey and are doing the best we can, the good thing is we all understand each other!  As our hair grows back, others look upon us as being back to normal, and we may look normal on the outside, but I always said bc is a big mindf**k (excuse my french)...but it is to me.  I've been having some discussions about this with others lately who are kind enough to ask how I'm doing now that I look normal and am laughing again, like my old self.  I tell them I am still going to follow ups, and am on Tamox that comes with its own side effects, etc. and will always have to live with the what ifs, but I don't want it overcome me.  

    Sorry girls, I am just rambling...

    I've been having a lot of the low back pain lately...but still trying to get some exercise in.  Hate taking too much Ibuprofen which the pcp says to do.  Am headed to Cabo on Friday and I can't wait!   

  • sobx
    sobx Member Posts: 435
    edited November 2009

    Since I didn't get to visit DS I washed my car, took a 2 mile walk on the beach with Dd, made bread, took Dd on her normal 2 walks and she is now belly up sleeping. Beautiful day at the beach. I have two more days to relax!

    Ainm, cyber prayers still coming. We have a lost fisherman they are looking for here. Can't imagine what the families are going through.

    Great week Deanna.  I seem to be light headed this week. Don't know what is up. Haven't felt this way since Chemo. See my onc on Friday. Hugs to all and keep up the good work.

  • Springtime
    Springtime Member Posts: 5,355
    edited November 2009

    Anim, that is just so sad. :(

    Deanna, I wonder, like Kari, if it is the darker days. Also, I don't know about the rest of you, but recently, I had this funny thing like, "Crap, I was diagnosed with cancer" sort of hit me all over again. I think maybe it's because I just went to my 4 month check up. I get a very grim feeling at those appointments. hmmm. not good.

    I walked over lunch today, and did yoga tonight while the chicken was in the oven roasting. :)

    Joy, I envy your day at the beach! It was gorgeous again in Raleigh too.... :) 

    Spring. 

  • ktym
    ktym Member Posts: 2,637
    edited November 2009

    Ainm: thinking of your friend and family.  I'm sure they're still hoping for better news, but if not I hope they at least can find closure.  Childhood friend of mine went missing 19 yrs ago and was never found, how hard it has been for her family to keep going without that closure just breaks my heart.

    I think for me the down part I can figure out.  Surely getting ill didn't help at all.  This summer was warm, and full of the excitment of finally starting to feel better finishing chemo. Every month I could feel a little bit stronger and at least I could enjoy getting walks in with the sun shine, realizing a few months ago it had been cold and I didn't have the strength to walk to the end of the block.   Now, its colder, greyer, and I've plateaued at what I can do and its frustrating because I'm still so far away from where I was a year ago.  Plus, doing more at work and the tamox SE's, lack of sleep, etc all add up to being tired all of the time.  I want my old body back and may never get it back completely.  Heck, know why I'm down.

  • ktym
    ktym Member Posts: 2,637
    edited November 2009

    Well, that was uplifting, sorry, but just really in a frustrating mire right now.  Neuropathy bad because I'm on my feet more, lymphedema still there, myopathy still there.  The first two they can't tell me for sure will ever completely get better, not and tell the truth.  Plus, who the heck would wish 5 yrs of hormonal therapy on anyone?  Happy some do well, but there is a reason 30% of women dump the stuff and a lot more want to. 

    I guess this is when we really have to pull together on the thread right?  When we really need to keep motivating each other because its harder to keep wanting to do this everyday?  

    I know I'm going to be tired after an early start at work and when I get home it will be hard to keep moving and get some in.  I'll have to promise to report back that I kept my rear end moving and got some exercise in so that I know I'll do it! 

  • pk0199
    pk0199 Member Posts: 586
    edited November 2009

    Hate to admit, but I am with you guys on all this. For me though I think this week my impending doom is two fold. First mammo since d-day this Thursday and I have to do it alone as DH bless his heart is flat on his back with back trouble again. Unfortunately I can't find the energy to help him (not really much I can do anyway) and I know I am really bi%$y lately. Also exercised all three days this weekend, gained 2 lbs. Just shoot me now!

    Anim, still praying for your friends boy.

    Big hugs to all going through back aches, lymphedema and all else. I think we all need big hugs, big sun and an even larger glass of wine. 

  • Springtime
    Springtime Member Posts: 5,355
    edited November 2009

    kmmd, have you tried L-glutamin for neuropathy? It works for me. Google it. Onc said no proof it works in the literature, but it works for me, and others I know...

  • Mandy1313
    Mandy1313 Member Posts: 1,692
    edited November 2009

    Ainm:  Your friend and family are i my heart and prayers.

    It is sunny and crisp here---high 40s. I hope everyone can get out for a brief walk and enjoy the day.

  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 9,430
    edited November 2009

    4.53 miles for me this a.m.  Still moving my body, but need something more to get my spirit back in gear!  I think my BS suggesting an annual MRI, as relieved as I was to hear that, reawakened some painful memories, as well as hightened my fear of a recurrence.  I guess I'm also frustrated with myself because I can't seem to get ahold of the days and use my time meaningfully or well.  Seems like it was just Spring, and here we are coming up on Thanksgiving.  I feel like I kicked back while I was in treatment, and now I can't seem to step up the pace of life again...

    Please don't take my rambling as complaining or let it get anyone down!  I'm not looking for sympathy, but more thinking out loud and trying to talk myself through this....    

    Ainm, even as I write this I can't help but think how trivial this is compared to a missing child.  Has there been any word at all on him yet?   Deanna

  • ktym
    ktym Member Posts: 2,637
    edited November 2009

    Ainm: I'm with Deanna, feel so guilty complaining compared to what your friend's family is going through. 

    Spring, that, B6, L-carnitine, boy do I feel like a pill popper Tongue out

    Meg, I agree we just have to gently get ourselves through it

    So, I did come home and make myself keep on moving because I'd started so early at work I knew it would be hard.  Got a "run" in, and a little weight lifting, so--cyber hugs and a gentle nudge to who else needs it today 

  • Ainm
    Ainm Member Posts: 781
    edited November 2009

    Still no news - search has finished for today. The weather here has been dreadful, wet, windy and the river in flood. Naval divers have been searching the quays but the weather is really bad. I'm calling to his mother again tomorrow. I just wish he was found. Thanks for all your support.

    I hope everyone keeps up their exercise - health and fitness is so important. I'm doing my best and have done something everyday but my heart isn't in it. My DH wouldn't let me join the search at the weekend - he was right I would have probably slowed them down.

    You are a great group of women - thank you so much for the virtual shoulder to cry on.

  • Brendatrue
    Brendatrue Member Posts: 1,830
    edited November 2009

    Hi, all--Ainm, I am sad to hear about your friend's son and I hope that his body will be found so that his family can find some peace in that. Of course, I still hold hope that he may be found alive, but I realize that is not what is expected. Don't worry about taking over this thread; I hope that we can be supportive of each other in whatever ways are needed.

    I don't really hear the honest outpourings as complaining. I think it is helpful to have others, who understand us in ways many can't, listen and offer ideas and share sorrow as well as share joy and motivation. (Isn't there a Swedish saying about joy shared is made double and sorrow shared is cut in half?) I also think it is helpful for us to be real and genuine, and to not worry about how we present ourselves to others as we are being real and genuine.

    The earlier conversation about gloomy, gray days and gloomy, gray moods made me think about something I learned a few years ago. The basic idea is that we often follow the seasons--the cycle of nature--in our own lives, including our moods, perspectives, etc., so we may find that we respond to fall/winter with a "going inward" or "urge to hibernate" so that we can take the time to reflect, rest, re-tune our workings, gather our resources, etc. The hope is that greater insight and understanding will help us to find spring again and experience growth in new directions, new energy, etc. This "theory" also suggests that sometimes we don't exactly follow nature's seasons, that sometimes we move through our own natural cycles. So, lately, when I have felt gloomy, I have tried to remind myself of this cycle, try to learn from the experience, and hold hope that I will have brighter moods and days again.

    And for those of us who are trying to keep the movement going, I was able to return home Sunday night after a long weekend with my mother and rake for about an hour--with a vengeance, which certainly helped my mood but made my back ache a little yesterday. So yesterday I did 45 minutes of stretching to compensate. Today I made myself get out of bed at 5:45 am (ugh) and workout for 35 minutes. kmmd, Deanna, kudos to you both for keeping up that motivation, and for those of you who need an extra dose, I am joining kmmd in sending along a little nudge.

  • kfinnigan
    kfinnigan Member Posts: 1,729
    edited November 2009

    Finally getting a chance to check in very quickly before heading home. Well said Brenda!! 

    Although my back was really bothering me yesterday, I went home and baked a pumpkin bread, but it didn't come out right, and I threw it away!  I can laugh now, but was really bummed out!  Put on my Yoga DVD and did a routine.  It bothered me at certain points so I backed off and had to take a prescription Ibuprofen...was aware of the back/hip pain during the night so didn't sleep so well, BUT it felt better during the day today! YAY!

    Ainm, prayers and hugs!

    Everyone - Big hugs!! 

  • AllieM22
    AllieM22 Member Posts: 464
    edited November 2009

    Hi all--back from a two-day, one-night stay in Vegas (my DH had to go for work). That place is too funny. had some great food, a little bit of gambling and are happy to be home.

    I think some of the gloominess is the weather and the seasonal change--I really do. I know my mood is so much better when it's a clear sunny day. Can't believe Thanksgiving is coming next week!! Have my in-laws coming so need to start getting it all together.

    Ainm--sending you my good thoughts too--so sorry to hear about the awful situation.

    Kari--hope your back is better and glad you can laugh about the "misfire" with the pumpkin bread. :)

    Deanna--great job with exercise!! I have to get going again but was doing much better last week so am encouraged.

    Maybe if we combat the gloom with finding one thing each day to be thankful or appreciative for...even if the day overall has been a stinker... 

  • ktym
    ktym Member Posts: 2,637
    edited November 2009

    Brendatrue, I like that idea of the seasons and making it a positive change with the seasons.  I just have to make sure I dont eat and hibernate Embarassed.  However, the idea of turning inward and using it for reflection I like. 

    Woke up early AND rested.  I think I'm going to take the time to get some real quick treadmill time in.  I can't do much, have to get to work, but I think I bought myself a few extra minutes this AM.  Think I'll do a quick run and try to pick up the pace so I get use out of what is a short time.  Then, after work do some strength and yoga. That's a plan that makes me feel peaceful about the day.

    Found a Susan Deason CD in the back of my DVD routine that I hadn't paid much attention to before (I was concentrating on finding yoga routines I like).  Turns out its  about 15 min of a relaxing meditation routine for trying to get a good and peaceful sleep at night.  Could have kicked myself for ignoring it before, except that would be the opposite intention of the whole thing.  I'm finding it very helpful and relaxing, more importantly often those thoughts of relaxing breathing and thinking of things you're grateful for and want to work on in the AM were the first things I thought of when I woke up this morning.  I'm going to try to put this into my routine and see if it helps with my sleep and mood.

    Ainm, thinking of you and your friends family today 

  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 9,430
    edited November 2009

    Brenda, I second what Meg said about your wisdom.  Thanks for sharing.  It also makes me wonder if that's one reason I've never been a huge fan of where I live -- the desert.  Our seasonal changes are so minimal compared to other places, and using your analogy, also kind of mixed up. Winter is the lively, "in" time here, and summer is when it's so hot that most living things would die outdoors, so everyone leaves or hibernates.  Hmmm... you may have given me some insight into a discontent I've felt for years living here.

    On a totally trivial note, I got my first hair cut since chemo yesterday.  I'd actually waited a year, if you can believe it, because my hair was so kinky curly, especially in back.  But after some great styling and expert blow drying, it's actually quite straight today!   YaY!!!  I feel much better about that one little area of my life, and hopefully can ditch the wig now, or as my amusing DH recently called it, "the mean wig," because he said wearing it made me act meaner than usual, as in hot, constricted, and not happy to still need it. 

    Well, I'd better get out there and walk instead of poking around on the computer as I have been all morning.

    Later, gals ~  Deanna

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