When is this over ?

marie111
marie111 Member Posts: 119
When is this over ?

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  • marie111
    marie111 Member Posts: 119
    edited November 2009

    Hi all:

    This may sound like a dumb question but it has been bothering me for a while now.  I was dx in may2009 with ILC. I had a lumpectomy in may with clear margins and no node involvement.  I have since completed 4 X TC of chemotherapy treatments and will be starting Tamoxifen next week.

    So my question is how do I classify myself: Am I a cancer patient, do I have Breast Cancer or I am a Breast Cancer survivor ? Am I cured, is this in the past or present at this point ?

    I know this sounds funny but I feel like I need clarifications on my current status :-))

    Thanks for any advice,

    Marie

  • momand2kids
    momand2kids Member Posts: 1,508
    edited November 2009

    Hi Marie

    I am sure there are lots of different answers to this question--- I answer it the way my onc put it to me--- I am cured of breast cancer.... I don't think of myself as a survivor--I am just cured..... if it comes back, then that is a recurrence---but she uses the word cured- so I do as well..... 

    Others like NED (no evidence of disease).... and I am sure there are other things that work for other people.....  personally, I just like cured!!!

  • marie111
    marie111 Member Posts: 119
    edited November 2009

    momand2kids:

    Thanks for your encouraging reply. I also like the sounds of being cured better !!

    Your dx sounds alot like mine. Did you do chemo and are you now taking tamoxifen.  I would appreciate any thoughts on Tamoxifen as I am to start next week and a little scared of the SE's

    PS: I also have 2 kids ( ages 10 & 9) :-)))

    Marie

  • momand2kids
    momand2kids Member Posts: 1,508
    edited November 2009

    Hi Marie-

    I did four rounds of chemo and 6 weeks of radiation.  I am on femara-an aromotase inhibitor because I could not take tamoxifen... the side effects have not been bad....I know a number of people who took tamoxifen and most had no real side effects.  You can always go off- or try another drug---- it is worth trying to see how you do...

  • Gitane
    Gitane Member Posts: 1,885
    edited November 2009

    Hi Marie,  You have asked a question everyone answers differently, I think.  Since nobody knows if they will have a recurrence, I guess we can choose our own answer.  Some of the answers I have heard are...

    "I'm cured unless proven otherwise."

    "I was treated for breast cancer."

    "I am a breast cancer survivor of....?.... years."

    "I have or had breast cancer."

    Personally, I feel like "I have breast cancer." fits me.  In my head that's what I think.  I don't necessarily mean I know I'll relapse, but I don't think cured fits either.  Being post-treatment is what's important, I guess.

    About Tamoxifen, I can't help because I'm on Femara.  I had chemo and no rads.   Hope you do well and that Tamoxifen SE's aren't a problem.

  • wallycat
    wallycat Member Posts: 3,227
    edited November 2009

    I was reading the october Ladies Home Journal, and of course, october is breast cancer awareness month...articles included.  One lady wrote and said she hated being called a survivor. I wept when I finished her article...we can be treated for cancer, but not the diagnosis...she said, "until I die from something else, I can't claim I'm a survivor.  Survivors walk away, similar to a plane crash....breast cancer patients do not."  I wept loudly. 

  • Kleenex
    Kleenex Member Posts: 764
    edited November 2009

    Hi, Marie!

    I always say, "I was diagnosed with breast cancer last year." The only thing I am sure of is that discrete event: cancer was found. It was removed via lumpectomy, leftover bits were zapped with radiation, and now I'm taking Tamoxifen in the hopes that if more of it is thinking of growing, we can stop that. It's probably gone, but it's all such a crap shoot. It is true that the only way to know you're cured is if you die of something else. Not a cheery thought, but there it is... I don't necessarily say it's gone and yet I don't say I "have" it. Sometimes I get sad about it, and sometimes I manage to realize that there are things that are worse. I had a friend who got a rare and terrible appendix-based cancer who passed away. She was about a year older than me and left behind four teenagers. My alleged prognosis is that it may return in 10 or 15 years, and hopefully at that point will be managed as a chronic condition. That's better than the 18 months my friend had after her diagnosis - most of the time she couldn't even eat properly because appendix cancer isn't found until it's spread through the abdomen and affects your other organs.

    Tamoxifen isn't so bad. I started taking it Dec. 1st of last year ('08). I did not have chemo, so all of my side effects can be attributed to the Tamoxifen. I had a few side effects pop up over the first couple of months, and most of them have evened out or gone away with time. I still have waves of hot flashes, especially if it's warm and humid and/or I eat a huge meal - I swear that estrogen was helping me disgest anything and everything and now things are slooooower. My eyesight seems a little worse, but then again, I'm at that age range where that was due to happen anyway. My knees are a little achey, but then again, I had old cheerleading injuries that are likely kicking in...

    Give the Tamoxifen a try and give your body some time to deal with it...hopefully it won't be too bad for you.

    Coleen

  • momand2kids
    momand2kids Member Posts: 1,508
    edited November 2009

    sherri,

    I like that even better-- -I HAD breast cancer last year- but when they took it out on 11/25/08--well, it was then GONE!!!!    I think that is a fine wayt to think about it..... if it comes back, well that is a recurrence.... but lots of things could happen before that--- mostly I hope it is just me living my life well!!!! 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2009

    Marie----You definitely have earned the title of bc survivor after all you've been thru.  Doctors tend to shy away from using the word "cured" in relation to breast cancer, but with stage 1 ILC, clear margins and negative nodes, your prognosis sounds very very good. Of course, no one can predict what the future holds for any of us, but try to view the chemo and the tamox as kinda like added insurance against future problems.  I took tamox for 5 years and tolerated it quite well with minor SEs (mainly hot flashes)--I am high risk from LCIS and family history---my mom took tamox several years ago for ILC and I'm very happy to report she is a survivor of 23 years without a recurrence and doing well at 80 years old! I consider both of us bc survivors and wear that proudly.

    Anne

  • Merilee
    Merilee Member Posts: 3,047
    edited November 2009

    I like to call myself a breast cancer warrior rather than survivor

  • Survivor07
    Survivor07 Member Posts: 71
    edited November 2009

    Don't care what I say I had/have or survived......as long as I AM HERE to say it!!

  • kim2005
    kim2005 Member Posts: 49
    edited November 2009

    I like to say that I'm a Breast Cancer 'Graduate.'  It sounds more empowering to me than 'survivor.'

  • sakura73
    sakura73 Member Posts: 467
    edited November 2009

    Frankly I don't intend to include breast cancer in any description I give of myself now that treatment is over (did chemo and radiation, refusing Tamoxifen). I classify myself as Rachel, likes dark chocolate, raspberries, books by Alexander McCall Smith and the music of Vaughan Williams, dislikes celery, hip hop music and Monday mornings at work.

    I had cancer, and I had cancer treatment. Neither fact is going  to form any part of how I think of myself or describe myself to others. 

    I know women with more advanced stage disease quite rightly would approach this differently, and everyone has to find an approach which suits them, but for me,  cancer doesn't deserve any mention or airtime from me now that treatment is done. Like others have said, I am cured, and I no more define myself by having had cancer than I would define myself by having had the flu or a broken leg.

  • Lunalin
    Lunalin Member Posts: 63
    edited November 2009

    I just celebrated my 5 yr. anniversary. I had a mastectomy and I'm still on Aromasin. I asked my Dr. if I was in remission. She said she didn't use that word but I was better off now than a year ago.

    So, go figure. I guess it means we have to be aware of our own bodies. Keep up with the self exams and yearly mammos. Don't be affraid to stir up things if you're not being taken seriously.

    Good luck and try to relax.

  • hlya
    hlya Member Posts: 484
    edited November 2009

    Same feeling!  The shadow is always there that we can not actually get rid of.....that's why my husband said breast cancer hurt women more emotionally than physically....One of my friend said she tried hard to forget about it but the coming treatments/SEs keep reminding her she is a BC patient.

  • JannaC
    JannaC Member Posts: 30
    edited November 2009

    Hi, Marie -  I was DX in Feb with Stage 1, Grade 2 and had lumpectomy in March and did not get clear margins.  They went back in 10 days later and took more out and then got clear margins.  My doctor uses the word remission, which I'm not crazy about, but I guess I need to be realistic.  Like Kleenex, I did not do chemo, I had a choice, but chose not to.  I don't know why some doctors recommend it and some don't.  My oncotype was 19, just into the grey area.  I had 5 weeks of radiation and am now on Femara.  I had some hot flashes at first, but now have no side affects.  I have second guessed my chemo choice but now have to live with it.  It does bother me that it could come back in 10 years, though, in the brain or liver or wherever.  I wish you well, you will be fine.

  • karen1956
    karen1956 Member Posts: 6,503
    edited December 2009

    I like the term "NED"...no evidence of disease....I do think of myself as a "survivor"....also say I had breast cancer.  I don't tend to tell people that I had breast cancer...I may say when I was sick or something generic like that....it tends to not invite questions and just moves the conversation along.  I always wear my pink bracelet and also have pink bead bracelet that I sometimes wear and have pink ribbons on my coats.....My oncologist does not use the words remission or cured and I don't tend to like them for myself.  I was told by someone, that as soon as your hear the words "you have breast cancer" you are a survivor. 

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