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  • gillyone
    gillyone Member Posts: 1,727
    edited November 2009

    Patty and Lilah - When on Taxol I also got steroids, benedryl and some antacid type things. Pepcid I think. I laughed the first time, but there is some reason, just can't remember what it is! My infusions were also given slowly, three hours each time. I was on the 4 x DD regimen. Not sure how long it takes with weekly taxol but I never felt anything during infusions.

  • buccaneersdj
    buccaneersdj Member Posts: 241
    edited November 2009

    Hi ladies, sorry I have been missing my post I can't believe my last post was on October 21st. It figures that was the day before my last chemo, well tomorrow is chemo #6 my last one. I am so anxious (not in a good way) to go tomorrow, I am glad it's the last one but I was so sick after #5 for 2 weeks. On Friday when I go in for my Neulasta shot I will also go in for my Sim and CAT scan for rads which I will (against the advise of my Onc.) start next week, I am determined for financial reasons to get in as many rads as I can before Jan. 1st. My insurance copay is $50 per visit so rads everyday for 37 days = $1850. Since my max out of pocket has been met this year, no copays till Jan. 1st. Anyway I know what everyone has been up to even though I don't post much now I do get all your post on my Blackberry. Thanks for wondering where I was.....here I am! Like I said chemo 5 was real bad for me, I can only hope that the last one will be better. I am so fat now and do not want to stand on that scale tomorrow! I have as of 3 weeks ago gained 27 lbs since diagnosis, I was already about 50 lbs overweight. I guess this is my next big battle since my weight directly effects my chances of reoccurance. I quit smoking the day I was diagnosed, cold turkey, no problems but the diet and excersize is so hard especially when you feel so cruddy all the time.

  • jenn3
    jenn3 Member Posts: 3,316
    edited November 2009

    Good morning - It was nice to spend the day with my Mom and Sister.  We went to see the Christmas Carol w/Jim Carey.  It was the only movie we could all agree on - I normally don't like animation and have seen Christmas Carol so many times I didn't think I'd like it, but I did.  It was enjoyable. Then we went to Zea's for lunch......... Yum - I had grilled trout which was delicious!  We did a little shopping on the way back to the car, but my legs and feet started to hurt so we cut it short. Today I think I'll try to get some housework done and bills paid before the weekend.  Oh..... good news - my daughter got her first real job. She is so excited  Whoo Hoo........

    Lilah/Patty - Thanks for the tips and looking into Taxol information- I am getting steroids and benadryl and the onc said no to Vit B.  He did say that I am hypersensitive to pain and getting neuropatthy - UGH!  And...... because of the steroids I've managed to gain one pound a week for the last three weeks........ I am going to fight against that - I do not want to deal with extra weight on top of everything else!  I don't know if it matters, but before chemo I was sensitive to medications......

    Donna - So glad to hear from you - I was getting worried.  I am so sorry you're having a hard time with chemo - guess I can relate a little.  It's so frustrating..............  Please keep in touch.

    Gotta run  - dogs are crying because I haven't walked them yet.  Talk to y'all later.

  • Karen09
    Karen09 Member Posts: 320
    edited November 2009

    Hey ladies.  Just checking in!  Good to see Kristin and Donna back!  :)  It's so nice to read how everyone is getting so much closer to the end of chemo.  I've been feeling pretty good for the most part except for some aches and pains and getting tired so easy.  All of a sudden one of my big toes started to hurt the other day and I think the nail wants to come off.  Very gross!  Anyway, I hope you are all having as good a day as possible.  Hugs to all!!

  • msmpatty
    msmpatty Member Posts: 818
    edited November 2009

    I'm sorry #5 was bad for you Donna.    But you have only one more to grit your way through.  Good luck!

    This stuff is definitely cummulative.   I had my last AC three weeks ago and usually by this point I would be feeling fine, but this time I am still so tired no matter how much sleep I get.   Also lost most of my eyelashes this cycle.  Ugh.  I think they are coming back already, either that or I'm getting better at finding whats left with my mascara wand.   I start 12 weeks of Taxol tommorrow. I'm so jealous of you ladies who are almost done...but happy for you too!  I'll be there shortly.

    Hope your toenail hangs on Karen! 

    Patty

  • kristin09
    kristin09 Member Posts: 56
    edited November 2009

    Hi all,

    Patty - yes, it was me that had the facial numbness; I'll ask my onc about neuropathy, although my experience was after the infusion, not during.

    Donna - glad to hear from you.  I understand completely how you're feeling about #6.  I feel exactly the same, anxious to have it over but a bit nervous about going through another one.  At least after this one, we'll know that we won't have to experience the aftermath again. 

    I'm also anxious because, at this point, I have no idea what my next steps are.  Since we're going to Mayo on Dec. 1, we have to wait and see what they say.  I have multiple paths: 1) go right to radiation, no more surgery, 2) mx with immediate reconstruction (DIEP), or 3) mx followed by radiation followed by reconstruction.  I am leaning toward the mx and doubt that I'll choose option #1 but if none of my docs think a mx is needed, I might be swayed.  A lot hinges on my post-chemo MRI and/or mammogram.  If they're clear, my decision is harder because it's basically up to me.  If they're not clear, definite mx.  Anyway, sorry to write all of that, it's not really relevant for you, but it helps to write down my options.

    I have my zometa infusion today and I'm pretty nervous about what tomorrow will bring, I just hope that doing it over 60 minutes instead of 15 does the trick.  We'll see.

    Other than fatigue and the awful taste in my mouth, I'm doing well.  Although I have to admit that a bit of nausea seems to follow me wherever I go these days.  But it's not too bad and I'm almost done.  Happy dance!!  :)

  • jenn3
    jenn3 Member Posts: 3,316
    edited November 2009

    Good morning - Well I didn't get housework done, nor did I get around to paying bills yesterday, but I went to lunch with my cousin and was able to visit with her youngest daughter and my newest godson. And.............. did some work from home.  Then....... I ran to the garden center and picked up two flats of pansies, which I'm going to plant either today or tomorrow before pain sets in.  I'm keeping the garden simple this year because I really don't have much time to devote to it, but wanted color - and you can't go wrong with pansies.  I didn't sleep well last night - steroid high, but because of the high I was able to finish on my candy project to hand out at chemo today and get some of that house cleaning done that I skipped earlier all around 3am.  I'm still not tired - I know when it hits I am so going to crash!!!

    Kristen - Even though we can't help you to make the decisions, it does help to write it out, put your thoughts out there to people who are going through similar situations, so please don't worry about giving us your options.  It helps you and helps those of us who may be facing the same thing.  Good luck with the decision.................... It will come to you soon - then you can have fun @ Disney!!!   (((((HUGS))) - this is for today's infusion.

    Patty - I get jealous too!  I won't be finished until 12/18 and I am so ready now - then I was told yesterday I'll need 6 weeks of rads that won't start until mid Jan.  Ugh! 

    Well  - I'm off to chemo - HAPPY FRIDAY!!!

  • msmpatty
    msmpatty Member Posts: 818
    edited November 2009

    First of 12 Taxol today!   It went fine, I had no reactions during the infusion.  I'm so relieved.   My Onc says my bloods counts are "fantastic", even after the AC.  So that's a minor miracle!  I'm about six weeks behind you Jenn, so I finish the last week in January and start rads in March. 

    Kristin, my face numbness showed up about day 7/8.   It was wierd timing because all the SEs seemed to be on the mend by then.    Here's something I discovered about the lingering nausea I had on my last two AC...Pepcid helped when nothing else did.  I guess what I thought was queasiness/nausea was actually an angry, acid stomach and the Pepcid worked like a charm. I think it is great you are getting the all expert opinions on your surgery.  There really isn't a definitive right or wrong answer.  If you choose the route that will give you the most peace of mind, you'll be doing the right thing.

  • jenn3
    jenn3 Member Posts: 3,316
    edited November 2009

    Can't sleep so I thought I'd bore you with my ramblings........... Steroids keep me awake until the wee hours of the morning every single Friday.  It drives me crazy because I don't feel bad on Saturday, but am so tired.  Last week about 3am I took benadryl and it did help, so just took some again a few minutes ago (2:30am). 

    Chemo went well - it was actually fun if you can believe that.  I had two friends/co-workers come by because they were at the hospital today for appts.  One came by while I was still waiting to be called into chemo and hung out for about 30 minutes.  The other one showed up during chemo and stayed for 2 hours.  Then....... I ran into several ladies from my Look Good class .  I also handed out my candy project to the office staff, nurses and every patient near me with note cards that I hand stamped with "Free Hugs" with a picture of a cat I think.  It made for a really good day and.................. I got hugs from patients and nurses, which was an added bonus for me.  My mom brings a weeks worth of crosswords each week that we work on together during chemo to help pass time and it also makes for good conversation other than cancer with the nurses and chair mates next to us. It's gotten to the point that when we show up the nurses ask if we have them - pass by and join in and if we sit next to someone we've made friends with, they look for them to.  As usual by the time the benadryl hits me my mind is mush and I'm not much help, but my friend that showed up during chemo is a crossword wiz - we shot through crosswords today like never before.................  Then while I was still on my steroid high this afternoon I got most of my pansies planted.  I had to stop in one area near my doorway because I didn't have enough of the white for one smaller section - so I'll go back for another flat Sat morning and finish up.  The front facing the street is done and looks great.  I picked out yellow with black centers, not thinking of my Saints...... I was thinking I need a pop of color.  My neighbor walked by and was impressed that I planted team flowers.  LOL  - So............ that's my story and I'm sticking to it. 

    I think I'm going to go back to work part time soon.  I've been trying to get there for sometime and it turns out the ding bat in HR had been giving me the wrong information all along, she kept telling me I had to take consecutive leave in order to keep my benefits. I finally called the STD Insurance company and her boss and I can go back to work as long as it's less than 32 hours a week.  My boss is fine with whatever I choose - 2 hrs a week 20 hrs a week.  Now that it's here I am paralyzed with fear and don't know why.  I've tried in every way to rationalize it, find a reason that makes sense, but I can't.  Am I afraid of being overwhelmed? Am I afraid of the new me? Am I afraid of getting back into my old routine.  Why am I so afraid?  Everyone from my boss to the very top (CEO) has been supportive, told me my job is waiting. What on earth am I afraid of??????  I guess it's a good thing I start working my way back in slowly now rather than having waited.......................

    Okay - I'll stop the rambling - thanks for listening.  Talk to y'all tomorrow.

  • lorieg
    lorieg Member Posts: 802
    edited November 2009

    Hi ladies!

     I hope you don't mind me jumping in here.  I am 33 years old, married with two young children.  I started chemo August 27th of this year.  I have had 4 rounds of A/C and 2 of 4 rounds of Taxol with weekly Herceptin.  I have not had surgery yet b/c I have IBC but am hoping for a bilateral MRM for Christmas.  Ugh. 

    Have a great weekend, and if it is ok I will try to catch up with everyone! 

  • jenn3
    jenn3 Member Posts: 3,316
    edited November 2009

    Welcome Lori - sorry you have to be here, but you will find a lot of support along the way. 

  • YoYo44
    YoYo44 Member Posts: 203
    edited November 2009

    Hi ladies,

    For my weekly Taxol the Taxol itself only took 1 hour and as I had no reaction issues the speed made no difference.  I received steroids, (dexamthasone) Benadryl and an antinausea (rita something, cannot recall now).  The protocol says infusing the 3 drugs 30 mins before before taxol minimises the reactions.  They would take about 30-45 mins altogether.  They watch you carefully the first couple of times for allergic reactions.  The steroid helps get it out of your system to minimse SE's.  The benadryl manages allergic reactions and makes you very sleepy.  If they infuse that too fast you get "restless legs" which is really irritating.  I reduced th steroid from 20 whatever units to 10 and it improved my jitteryness afterwards and helped a little with sleeping.  The Zoladex is still pretty bad for sleeping though.

    I have to weigh in on the donation comment.  I am mixed about all the pink stuff.  While it is great that BC does get funding, and a lot of it is due to the hype (most other disesased don't get this level of awareness and funding) I do know a lot of manufacturers use it as marketing.  So any money is better than no money.  But I do try to make myself aware of how much they are donating and choose to support/purchase products that have stronger commitments or donate more.  There is a benefit to all the "BC brand awareness" as far as research and funding, etc. but right now a lot of it just reminds me when I would rather forget.  Oh well, I don't get out much lately anyway!

    So my update is that I will have surgery this Tuesday Nov 17.  It will be the BMX with removal of lymph nodes on the BC side and immediate placement of TE's.  I have decided to go the route of the less invasive implants.  So next steps will be to wait for the all important patholgy report to find out what and how much more chemo and then if rads are needed.  I did not get much notice and was actually working until I got the call around noon this Wedneday.  Have been racing to get things done.  So now I will be off work until after x-mas for sure and then we shall see regarding chemo etc.  But I plan on going back to work during chemo.

    So I will be out for a little while.  All the best everyone and have a great weekend!  Yo 

  • weety
    weety Member Posts: 1,163
    edited November 2009

    Oh gosh, I got those restless legs the first 2 times with chemo!  It was terrible!  I felt like I needed to get up and jump around (it took everything out of me to keep from doing that!!!)   I didn't know it was caused from the benedryl being infused too fast!  Now I get the benedryl in pill form.  I thought they had just switched it just to make one less infusion for me to have.  Sometimes when my chemo gets started late, they also give me the zofran in pill form as well.

     yoyo44, good luck in your surgery!

  • YoYo44
    YoYo44 Member Posts: 203
    edited November 2009

    Hi All,

    Wow, I acually missed a whole page in my reading.  Oh boy.

    Jenn, just had to say, I know what you mean about going back to work.  I have been working all along but as I think about going back after the BMX I feel like I want to hide and I feel nervous.  I am not even there yet.  Not sure if it is about comments from people, which will mostly be supportive (or sympathetic-Argh, the hardest for me), the "new" me and adjusting to it or I don't know what else.  Seems it is part of the BC territory, all the mental game.

    Best of luck to you.

  • jenn3
    jenn3 Member Posts: 3,316
    edited November 2009

    Good morning - As y'all could see from my wee hour of the morning rambling I didn't get much sleep.  Finally fell asleep around 4:30am and woke up at 7:30am, but that's been the routine lately.  Other than feeling tired I don't feel too bad today.  Getting ready to head out to pick up one more flat of pansies - then I guess I'll fiddle around the house and figure out what to cook or pick up for the Saints game tomorrow.  I really try to stay away from the shopping malls and stores on the weekends because they're more crowed or should I say germ infested. 

    Patty - So glad to hear your 1st Taxol infusion went well - yipee.........

    YoYo - I do get the restless legs, didn't relate it to the benadryl - I was associating it with the terrible back and hip pain I get when the Taxol starts.  Hmmmmm..... I may have to ask about slowing the benadryl infusion.  Your surgery is coming up quick.  Good luck and please let us know how things go. 

    I really wish I could figure out what I'm afraid of.  Everyone has been wonderful...... I do know I don't want the attention, which I will get at first - I'd rather just sink in to my job and not have the "cancer" label over me, but I can't.  It's there and I have to deal with it.  Maybe that's what it is - I'm not the person I was before............. I can't make the dx go away and at home with friends and family they've adjusted and we can talk about everyday stuff, they treat me normally.  When I go back to work it will be an adjustment for my coworkers and I have to backtrack again.  I don't know - still rambling....

    Okay - I'm off to pick up my pansies and get the rest of my planting done - the weather is beautiful outside so I need to enjoy it.......

  • msmpatty
    msmpatty Member Posts: 818
    edited November 2009

    I get sort of tickled imagining everyone rambling around in the middle night on our steriod highs...makes me feel like I have company.   I'll try just about anything to go to sleep...melatonin, Tylenol PM, warm milk, warm bath and, if all else fails Ativan.  Last night I had a bad case of restless legs. Head wanted to sleep, legs wanted to go dancing!

    Jenn, I think that once you get over the initial hurdle of going to work again, you'll be happy you did.  I've worked throughout my TX and find it really helps to take my mind off myself and makes life seem "normal".   I must admit, however, that my situation makes it easy to work.   I own my own business which we operate out of wing of my house.  So when I need to rest I just head to the sofa, and let my colleagues take over.  

    Welcome Lori!    Best of luck with your surgery YoYo!

    Patty

  • Lilah
    Lilah Member Posts: 4,898
    edited November 2009

    Jenn -- I agree with Patty.  It's a fear of the unknown; what will work be like now that I've had cancer and everyone (or many) know it?   Will I be the same?  Etc.   I also have worked all through chemo and remember how nervous I was the first day, wondering if people who don't know about the BC will notice my wig or say something about it; wondering if I will be able to do the work (I teach); etc.  I think once you get back to a routine that includes work the fears will subside.  Take it slow.  I only work a few days a week as a teacher, so am able to rest on off days.  Make a schedule that maximizes your good days (and lets you stay home on the bad ones).

    Cheers,

    Lilah

  • jenn3
    jenn3 Member Posts: 3,316
    edited November 2009

    Good morning - still feeling pretty good for the most part. I can feel stiffness in my shoulders, but not too bad yet.  And........ when I got into the shower this morning I noticed that my feet were sensitive for a breif minute to the hot water.  Is that related to neuropathy or the hypersensitivity?  Hmmmm...... Or am I  just going crazy?  This morning I got up walked the dogs, bathed the dogs, vacuumed, dusted and watered my newest plants and DH mulched for me.  My Mom and sister are coming over in a few minutes to watch the Saints game with us - This could be a franchise record if we win 9 - 0............ Geaux Saints.

    Patty/Lilah - Thank you for your support on going back to work - it is difficult mentally and I just can't put my finger on it.  I know once I get there it'll be fine - I have a a large group of really great people at the office and they've all been very supportive.  My boss has been more than willing to let me do whatever works for me - set my own pace, hours.  Come in sit at my desk and do nothing if I just want the company.  They've all seen me with my scarves, so my appearance isn't an issue.  My clients/customers all know my situation and have been wonderful  - so that isn't the issue.  I think it's the attention I'll get and don't want.............. Maybe because before I left with all of this I was the "go to" person, the one with all of the little back door secrets to get things done, contacts in other departments, in control............... Maybe that's it - the feeling I've lost control....... Oh....... here I go again.  I'm overthinking it.  I just need to get over it and go to work in the next few weeks and be done with the over analyzing of it.  Thank you for listening - I'll be fine I'm just overthinking the situation.

    Happy Sunday!!!

  • lorieg
    lorieg Member Posts: 802
    edited November 2009

    Jenn,

    I took about 5 weeks off of work before going back.  The first week or so was a little odd because part of the reason I chose to go back was to get my mind off of things, but that was hard to do with everyone telling their own breast cancer stories (of family and friends) or constantly wanting to talk about it.  I did feel like I was losing a little bit of my "professional dignity."  After the first two weeks things settled down.  I realized I don't have to tell anyone anything if I don't want to so when people bring up my situation I just say "I am doing well" or "We are hoping for the best" and attempt to move the conversation on to another topic.  Once you get back into a groove things will be fine.

    Hugs,

    Lori 

  • lorieg
    lorieg Member Posts: 802
    edited November 2009

    Yo Yo- Best of luck with your surgery this week!

  • msmpatty
    msmpatty Member Posts: 818
    edited November 2009

    Jenn, I think you've put your finger on it...that feeling of loss of control.  From the DX on it seems nothing is in our control, not even our bodies.  My bet is that once you get back to work and over the initial hump of everyone wanting to show their concern, you'll be that "go to" person again.  I think Lori's advice is really good, too.

    So far, so good with my lst Taxol Tx.  Definitely feel better on day 3 than I did on the AC...and no meds!

    Patty

  • jenn3
    jenn3 Member Posts: 3,316
    edited November 2009

    Guess what - not only did my Saints make it 9-0 (although it was another ugly win) my sister and I just planned a last minute road trip.  She is on vacation this week and I have time so......... we are jumping in the car and heading to either Tennessee, North Carolina or South Carolina - maybe Georgia...... We haven't decided-we'll just point and drive.  I told her as long as I'm back in the chemo chair by Friday @ 8:30am I'm good to go.  The two of us have never taken a trip together without either our Mom or my girls, this will be exciting - she is really fun to be with!!!

    Patty - you may be right -the loss of control I feel. thank you for the support I really appreciate it.

    Talk to y'all later........

  • Kim09
    Kim09 Member Posts: 100
    edited November 2009

    YoYo - Good luck with the surgery Tuesday.  I have two more weeks before mine.

  • Lilah
    Lilah Member Posts: 4,898
    edited November 2009

    Ah Jenn -- I hear you.  You want to be normal again.  Work is normal.  You don't want to be fussed over.  You don't want the burden.  I know how you feel.  It's why I have told very few people... I find it nice to go on with my life and be "normal" to everyone (somehow they either think "why is Lilah wearing a wig?" and don't ask me or they believe me when I say I got a new hair style and Japanese straightening lol).  Anyway you are right that once you get there and start doing it again you will feel better.

    On another note -- this week I noticed a new SE -- the skin on the bottom of my feet (around my toes and balls of my feet) is peeling!  It's as if I had a sunburn and the skin is just coming off.  But the skin is not dry.  I moisturize but it is coming off.  What the heck is this?  I will ask my doctor (maybe tomorrow) or even the nurse practitioner in her office but it's strange to have a new SE at this stage of the game.  It's not itchy either (so not athlete's foot, at least I don't think so -- anyway athlete's foot doesn't make the balls of your feet peel, does it?)  Any thoughts?

    Cheers,

    Lilah

  • jenn3
    jenn3 Member Posts: 3,316
    edited November 2009

    Good morning - Well the Monday achiness has set in, but I have the distraction of packing to keep me busy, then I'll be on the road for 3 days with my sister - laughing most of the time I'm sure.  Even though I'm leaving for just three days I feel the need to get everything in order.................  My 18yr daughter is a little upset that I'm "leaving her".  I tried to explain that this is something that I could use right now and it's only three days.  She's not happy, but accepting it.  I think we'll end up in Tennessee, but I'll have to wait to see what my sister has planned.

    Lilah - Since starting Taxol my onc asks me everytime I go in if my feet are peeling, it must be a SE of some sort.  My feet are not peeling, so I don't have any wonderful advice to offer, but I believe I've seen it addressed on this forum too.  I think y'all are right, once I get  back to work  and into my routine things will be fine, probably better.  I've been wanting to go back to work for a long time, but the girl in HR had her information wrong (over and over).  Now I'm just waiting on confirmation and the appropriate paperwork, then off I go......

    Happy Monday Smile 

  • Lilah
    Lilah Member Posts: 4,898
    edited November 2009

    Thanks Jenn!  I'll search the boards and see what I can find re: peeling feet (my doctor never asked me that but then she only asks how I'm feeling, doesn't like to put ideas in my head lol). 

    Have a wonderful trip!!!

    Cheers,

    Lilah

  • msmpatty
    msmpatty Member Posts: 818
    edited November 2009

    Have fun on your trip Jenn!   Lilah, elsewhere on these discussion boards I've seen posts about peeling feet.  Can't say where, unfortunately, but I don't think you are alone on this.

    Patty

  • gillyone
    gillyone Member Posts: 1,727
    edited November 2009

    Lilah - I had peeling feet on taxol. I am three weeks out from the last taxol (4xDD) and the peeling seems to have stopped. But my feet have been tender too and walking was not fun. So I think it is a normal part of taxol.

    Jenn have a great time with your sister. My sisters are in England. I haven't seen any of my family since dealing with bc, but I am hoping to go see everyone in the spring.

    (I start rads today!)

  • Lilah
    Lilah Member Posts: 4,898
    edited November 2009

    Thanks Gilly!  I asked the nurse practitioner this morning at my onc's office and she looked at me and said "I never heard of that!"  Weird.  I will put in a call to my actual oncologist if it persists or causes me concern.  At the moment it isn't bothering me and the leg aching is going away.  I had my last Taxol a week ago; if the pain continues to abate as it has been since then, I am going to relax.  At least after the peeling the skin is nice and soft!  I think all in all I've been lucky with the neuropathy in that it has gone away each time.  It is reassuring, though, to know that it's not completely bizarre (that others have had it too) or cause for a lot of concern (which it doesn't seem to be).  So thanks for that Gilly.

    I did search "feet" and "peeling" and found a post about a syndrome that includes peeling feet and hot feet (and something about chemo leaking) but I am sure that's not what I have (or I have a very mild case of that) because my feet are definitely not hot; just peeling.

    Cheers,

    Lilah

  • lorieg
    lorieg Member Posts: 802
    edited November 2009

    Lilah- I have not experience peeling feet on Taxol although I think Taxol can cause extremely dry skin.  My hands, since I have been on Taxol, are itching like crazy even though they are not overly dry (at least not for me, I am a crazy handwasher so they are always somewhat dry).

     Gill- good luck with radiation.

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