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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2009

    Cindy - great news on your path report!  I'm happy that you have found our Seattle thread - wonderful women here!  Will you have the oncotype test done?  

    Jessica -yes, I am now a tatooed woman, although they are absolutely tiny.  The size of a pin head.  Originally I was not thrilled about getting the tattoos, but the tattoos are to line you up precisely - so then I did not mind - and truly they are tiny dots.

    You will do great - I think a friend of mine is starting rads at Swedish next week....her name is Jacqui.  Maybe you will meet her!

    S

  • tkone
    tkone Member Posts: 511
    edited November 2009

    Jessica and all-

    Tattoos.  I don't know if all of them do it, but most do.  It is so that they can line up the radiation the same way each time.  The tattoos are just dots, they look like a freckle.  I would guess that your 11/16 appointment is your "set up" appointment where they tattoo you and set up your radiation location.  Radiation is a pain because you have to go every day, but otherwise, not terrible at all. 

    Someone asked me today if I was my niece's grandma.  My sister is 39, I am 44.  Seriously????  Do I look like could have a 39 year old daughter?  It just stomped on my ego.  Crap, crap, crap!  And then to top it off, I have been applying for jobs like a crazy person and one that I REALLY wanted sent me a blow-off email today saying "Though you were a strong candidate, we have decided to interview others who more closely match our qualifications."  Blah, blah, blah!  The ego took a good beating today.

    Tracy

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2009

    Traci - you do NOT look old enough to be a grandma - maybe that person needs glasses!  My sister-in-law was a grandma at 44 - and she looked 34.  She had her kids at 20 and her daughter had her daughter at 17, so .... I guess it happens.

    Sorry about the job interview -  blah blah is right.  There is a funny (kind of mindless) book called "Bitter is the New Black" that addresses looking for a new job - check it out!

    How was the Swedish Breast Cancer lecture - I really wanted to go, but we had to much going on here that night.

  • Madge24
    Madge24 Member Posts: 150
    edited November 2009

    Cheers to all!  Thank you for the congrats for finishing rads.  Carol -- yes, doin' the done w/ rads dance but it won't be complete until we all celebrate together at our next dinner!

     Jessica -- good luck w/ rads.  You will be absolutely fine.  I think it will go great for you, honestly.  For me, it was easy, and the staff is SO nice and fun, it just made it a breeze.  PAP on these threads is one who suggested ditching the bra for awhile and I did and I'm glad.

    LittleBird75 and Daffodil -- Welcome to you!  This thread of women is wonderful.

    April Girl -- Congrats on your one year anniversary of diagnosis.  Isn't it nice to move on!  Yeah, baby!

    Kathie-- hope you are settling into Seattle nicely.  We are glad you are here!

    Tracy -- I'm w/ April Girl -- the person needs to have their eyes checked.  Seriously!!  I'm sorry about the frustrations in looking for a job.  But let me say this.  Part of true success is what you contribute to others in your world.  Just think of the contribution you've made to all our lives, how grateful we are to you that you started this thread for those of us in Seattle battling this disease, and how much comfort and hope and laughter it has brought all of us.  An immeasurable contribution.  Bravo.

    I wore purple for Robin this week-end.

    Love and hugs to all.

  • golfer779
    golfer779 Member Posts: 1,378
    edited November 2009

    Sense I cannot remember the "status" of all of our Crazy Seattle Gals, thought I'd pass on my experience this past week in regards to reconstruction surgery for anyone that might be in the process of considering such. 

    As I mentioned, I have decided to go forth with recon .... Would have never even heard those words touch my lips two years ago .... Time definitely heals !!!!  For any others contemplating recon, I just wanted to pass on a great resource.  I attended a support group meeting for "breast reconstruction".  It was held at the Polyclinic up on Broadway.  The moderator Marilyn, RN for Dr. Welk, PS was candid and very informative.    She herself is a cancer survivor and had a TRAM flap recon done 12 years ago.    May I say that with a very revealing "show and tell", she looks fabo, and you would be hard pressed to know which breast was the one reconstructed. 

    The group meets every second Weds of the month, you can Google the Polyclinic and go to News/Events and find the info, or feel free to ask me.     At Weds meeting there we're more than 15 in attendance, (from a woman diagnosed the day before to others more than 10 years out).  All types of recon we're discussed, and a lot of "show and tel"l ... so probably not a good place to bring a hubby !!!!  It definitely gave me answers and help me feel more comfortable with my decision to go with the DIEP recon (I got lucky and 5 ladies in attendance had a DIEP recon), all said they are very pleased.   Tough .... yes, but worth it !!!!

    Virginia Mason does something similar on the third Tuesday of each month, and I plan on attending this coming week as that is where I will be having my surgery in January.    Figure knowledge is powerful ... and I'll take what I can get ... yep, I'm slightly nervous that I'm actually doing this !!!!!

    Lastly .... thanks Peg and Susan for a relaxing eve of celebration !!!!!!   Looking forward to getting together with our Crazy Gals on the Seattle side of the pond soon !!!!

    Be well my friends, Carol

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2009

    Carol - that is so exciting.  It is wonderful to have such great resources in our area - and for me seeing the results is so much better than reading about them.  I am very happy for you! 

    I saw my radiologist, oncologist and SCCA even squeezed in a mammogram today (no pun intended!).  Everything checked out well (as far as I know).  

    In June my onc. ordered the tamox. metabolizer test and it turns out that my result was not great - not horrible but kind of a dreaded "gray area" (like the oncotype score).  Also, my June hormone levels were at menopause, so I am starting femera tomorrow!  I will see her quarterly and she will do blood work each time to check levels but assumes this is not chemopause.  Fine with me!  I am going to have zometa every 6 months as well as a chest xray and mammogram on the bad lefty.  

    Tracy, I completely agree with Madge24 - you have made a huge contribution to our lives.  I feel so grateful that I have found such wonderful women in Seattle - who happen to also have bc.  

     Carol was the first one I met from the boards, and she was such an inspiration, and great source of information on CMF and what I was going to experience.

    I don't know what I would do without each and every one of you!

    I am really looking forward to our next get together!

  • FanofSwimfan
    FanofSwimfan Member Posts: 14
    edited November 2009

    Golfer779,

    My name is Amanda MacDonald. I was one of Robin's (swimfan) swimmers ('91-'94), I started the Hope for Robin page, and now the founder of a non-profit in her name. Hope for Robin. I was by Robin's side and with her mom the last month of her life. She very much was a trooper. She never complained, was always cheerful, and for the second time in my life, sparked something inside me that I didn't know existed.

     Someone posted on the Hope for Robin wall a while back, and I wanted to reach out to all of you ladies. You're all my inspiration. After watching what Robin's had to go through and others like her, you're all to be commended and recognized.

    Robin was unlike anyone I've ever known. She was an amazing coach and mentor. I am who I am partly because of her. And I have passed all of those valuable and important lessons to my children.

    There is of course the Hope for Robin page, and I have a segway to my website in place (www.hopeforrobin.org). The website is being worked on right now. The segway page on FB is Hope for Robin(.org).

    I also wanted to see if it was OK with you if I posted the 2 pics at Red Robin of you ladies on the HFR page and on my own page as well? If not, I understand.

    Please let me know. Keep fighting the fight! Let me know if I can help/be here/support you or your BC sisters in anyway.

    Much Love,

    Amanda

  • tkone
    tkone Member Posts: 511
    edited November 2009

    Hi Amanda,

    Thanks for keeping the hope alive in honor of Robin.  I can't speak for everyone, but I personally don't mind the Red Robin pictures being posted on your webpage.  I am happy to be part of her legacy. 

    Susan, Carol and Peg-You are all very gracious.  Thank you for making me feel better.  (Don't think I'm not still going to take that woman out to the parking lot and trip her because I AM!)

    Carol-Do you remember my friend Kristina?  She came to the first Red Robin get together?  She is looking into reconstruction after 2 years as well.  I would love to connect the two of you if possible.  She is NicoTinosmom on these boards.  I am going to copy your last post here for her and maybe have her contact you if you don't have any objections??

    It looks like the day that came up most often for our next get together is DECEMBER 3.

    DECEMBER 3

    6:00PM

    RED ROBIN PIER 56 DOWNTOWN SEATTLE

    Has anyone seen GinaGina around?  Gina-where are you girl?  We miss you and want you to come to the December get together.

    New ladies-I hope you'll join us.  We have had new people at each of the get togethers and somehow we have never had a problem finding each other.

    Also, a shameless self promotion here.  When I was laid off from WaMu I decided I would start my own consulting company.  I have been pussyfooting around and not doing anything about it but since I have had zero luck getting a real job, decided I should probably get my act together.  I published my website finally tonight.  Would you take a look and let me know what you think?  I've never done a website before so I really have no idea if I am on the right track or not.

    www.2riseconsulting.com

    Thank you!  

  • libby
    libby Member Posts: 165
    edited November 2009

    Hi Tracy- Good for you for launching your business.  I, too, am in the early steps of my own business.  I set up my web page, but am still trying to figure out how to get it exposed.  I'm still working part time but I'm designating a day a week to develop the business.  I sometimes wonder if the whole breast cancer experience doesn't spur us on to trying something new, or maybe something we've always thought we'd like to try.  It gives a real dose of "life is short, get out there and live it".  I'm on my way out, but I'd love to look at your web page this weekend. Just saw your post and thought I could totally relate to what you're doing!

    Ladies, I can't make the get together in December, but think of me sitting at home with my new soft silicone implants (exchange surgery December 2).  

    Carol- Dr. Welk is doing my surgery so I heard about the meetings in their office and attended the "Show and Tell" meeting several months back.  Like you, it was a big help for me to see the results in person. 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2009

    Libby - sorry that the 4th is not a good date for you, but happy that your exchange surgery is coming up!  I think that will be the end of your "active treatment", right.

    Tracey - I will check out your website.  I'm sure it is great!  I think starting your own business is the way to go in this economy - my husband did the same thing!

    Gina- I have wondered the same thing - miss her!  Hope to see her in December.

    Amanda - I was going to suggest you post those pictures when I first came across your Hope for Robin facebook page.  I too am happy to be part of her legacy.  I didn't know her well, but so admired her spirit and know what you mean - she seemed so cheerful and positive in spite of this #@%! breast cancer.  Not everyone with this disease and progression can maintain that - which I think we can all understand. As you have found the pictures, I am thinking you have read thru some of her old posts.  I have done the same, and  will really miss her.  Carol, Peg (Madge24) and I were talking about her the other night and her death has really hit us hard.  I don't want to bring everyone down, so won't go there.

    Amanda, I am so inspired by your devotion and all of her friends and family.  Her spirit lives on!

    Okay, time to take my femara.  Crossing my fingers- wish me luck (not side effects and please no more weight gain!!!!!).

  • golfer779
    golfer779 Member Posts: 1,378
    edited November 2009

    Amanda, as far as I'm concerned ... feel free to share the picture of Robin from this site.   I have been on your FB page ... your doing great things on Robin's behalf and I know she is grinning ear to ear upon you. 

    Tracy, of course I remember Kristina, in fact was wondering how she was doing.  As I recall she was experiencing some rather tough times.   I'm always available to lend an ear !!!

    I've got the Dec 3rd on my calendar ... looking forward to visiting.

    Susan .... one down !!!!!!!    

    Tracy, going to check out your site .... !!!

  • FanofSwimfan
    FanofSwimfan Member Posts: 14
    edited November 2009
  • FanofSwimfan
    FanofSwimfan Member Posts: 14
    edited November 2009

    I did read through her old posts and did so crying. It's like she isn't gone. In fact, as I sit here and type this I'm fighting the misty tears falling down my cheek.

    One of you ladies said it best after you found out about Robin. Cancer FUCKING SUCKS! Yeah, I said it and sorry if I offended any of you ladies. But no one should have to endure what she did.

    Yes, I am a fully functional non-profit now. We are dedicated to spreading the word about cancer and how it works on a cellular level. And also assisting those stricken with cancer and their needs. It makes for busy weeks with work and building this, but I will not stop until I have no one else to help. That's my goal. I also made a promise to Robiun that I would be there for her mom and help her. That's a promise I REFUSE to break.

    Ladies, if any of you are on FB, feel free to friend request me, or email me.

    shellnmikesmom@hotmail.com

    Take care. Much love!

    Amanda

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2009

    Has everyone heard of the new horrible guidelines?!  Please look through active threads and sign the petition against it!

    The new guideline is to start screening mammograms at age 50 instead of 40 (unless you have high risk factors like family history).  Many of us are under 50 -  and most of us do not have family history etc!

    This is the most ridiculous medical advice I have ever heard.

    Dr. Susan Love will be "discussing" this with some of the BC.org docs - who are not in agreement.

  • golfer779
    golfer779 Member Posts: 1,378
    edited November 2009

    Susan .... yep, this has me po'd big time ... I believe that Dr. Weiss and Susan Komen will be on air with Dr. Love tomorrow morning on Good Morning American .... my DVR will be set.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2009

    Hey - my photo and a quote from me may be on that program!  I saw a post on here that Dan Child from ABC news was looking for women who felt that a mammogram before 40 saved their lives, and I sent him an email.  He requested a quote and photo, and this evening asked for my permission to have it on GMA.  I really don't know if it will be on there (this was originally for an online news article). 

    Yes, Dr. Weiss and Dr. Love will be on - and let's all get behind Dr. Weiss.  Carol, I agree - I am po'd big time- this just seems like some weird insurance company ploy to limit expenses - but it will cost them more to treat us at later stages.  

    edited to add:  Gee - day three of femara - I am so mad - maybe this is due to mood swings?!  Just kidding!

  • FanofSwimfan
    FanofSwimfan Member Posts: 14
    edited November 2009

    Ladies,

    WHAT CAN I DO? What do you need from me? How can I open this up on my end? Please let me know!

    shellnmikesmom@hotmail.com

    Amanda

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2009

    Amanda - I added Robin to the list of women opposing this - I believe she was diagnosed at 44.

    As far as your question, I guess spread the word that this is ridiculous - and will cost lives.

    The Dr. Weiss/Dr. Love discussion should be worth watching.  

  • FanofSwimfan
    FanofSwimfan Member Posts: 14
    edited November 2009

    I've already blanketed my personal FB page, as well as the Hope for Robin(.org) page and I'm just about to post to the original HFR page. I'm so mad right now! I too put Robin's name on there, and yes, she was 44 when she was diagnosed. And she's just one of MILLIONS of women world wide. I'm going to see her mom tomorrow and I'll let her in on what's going on.

    I need to have a rally. My dad still has plenty of friends in the Seattle news media. I may pull the "daddy do you love me" card for this. He'd do it in a heartbeat!

    I'm truly disgusted. This is an outrage. I've got Good Morning America set to record tomorrow. Stay strong ladies!

  • littlebird75
    littlebird75 Member Posts: 120
    edited November 2009

    sorry if this is off the current topic. Met with the oncologist today for the 2nd time - but the first since my surgery (lumpectomy) and port were installed on the 28th. It's slightly irritating and amusing both to me that both my surgeon and ongologist seem to come to the appointment with no background on me what-so-ever till they read their computer screens and say "ahhh...ok, so what we have here is blah blah blah and what we will do is blah blah blah...."

    I realize they have so many patients with so many variables they can't possibly know everyone, but they could do the looking-up of data just before they walk in to help paitients feel a little more settled, a little more like this isn't an asembly line of freakin' cancer patients with no names only charts....

    In spite of my irritation/amusement I was pleased to find out I will have the minimum of chemo - 4 sessions over 12 weeks. I didn't ask about specific medication they will be using as  I have a "chemo-ed" appointment on Wednesday where I know I'll be finding out everything I ever wanted to know and more. When Dr. asked "when would you like to start?" I answered "today". 

    Really after all this build up, stress, waiting, drama, tears, angst, worry, relief I'm ready to just get on with it and get it over with. He reminded me again today I will lose my hair. I informed him I was prepared for this (so I tell myself) and he nodded. 

    The scheduler was telling me about the appointments. I asked for the duration of each - she went on to say "your chemo appointment will be 3 hours, or slightly longer since this is your first time".

    LONGER? Longer than 3 freakin hours? Holy crap. None of the books mentioned this! I asked her " really? I can't just pull up to the drive thru and ask for my burger and fries to go?". She chuckled but then insisted that each appointment would be about 3 hours long with the first likely running longer. Wow.....Honestly I had no idea. I was thinking maybe an hour.....I guess I'll bring my laptop and facebook/farmville account to the appointment with me! 

     Anyway - Dr. said 12 weeks/ 4 sessions of chemo followed by 6 of radiation. I start Friday.

    Thats all I know. 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2009

    Cindy - I can imagine it is annoying to have your doctors read the computer screen to recognize you, but such is the high tech world - I agree - would be nicer if they could crack open a file and catch up before they open the door!

    I did a different type of chemo, but I think 4 T/C or C/T over 12 weeks is fairly standard  I can't answer how long each session should be, but from what I hear 3 hours may be right - and that time may count the lab work too (they typically do a blood draw prior to chemo - and for me it was at least an hour before my chemo appt).  There should be a thread in thd chemotherapy forum for women started chemo in November 2009.  There you can compare notes with others starting at the same time.

    For sure, your farmville farm will be beautiful - with the 3 hours you will have!  Laptop, books, ipod or all of the above - whatever it takes.

    Friday is the big day - please let us know how it goes - I think you will find that the fear of chemo is worse than actually doing it.   Just focus on the fact that once this Friday is done, you only have 3 more.

    You will be in my thoughts and prayers!  I know it will go well!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2009

    seattle women -- I am sooooo FURIOUS!  I just found out the the Chair of this new committee, or coalition changing the mammogram guidelines is at UW Medical Center!!!!!  I just sent him an email detailing my personal history and requesting his comments - I'll let you know what he says - if he responds.  Send me a PM if you want his name - I got if off of a thread detailing the report.  I am assuming it is accurate.

    SCCA is in disagreement with this new guideline as are MD Anderson and the Mayo Clinic (i'm sure there are more).

    Good night!

  • tkone
    tkone Member Posts: 511
    edited November 2009

    Susan

    Saw your sunny face on GMA yesterday, you looked great!  Love the new avatar pic as well.  What a lovely family. 

    I hate the new guidelines.  I think the thing that I hate the most is that it will give people the idea that they don't have to worry about breast cancer until they are in their 50's.  That is a tragedy in my opinion.  Women are bad enough about taking care of thier own health without giving them one more excuse to NOT go to the doctor.  Beyond that, I don't especially appreciate being cast as one of the people whose lives aren't of benefit.  Sort of rubs me the wrong way to think that my being diagnosed with cancer isn't as devastating or important as someone who is in their 50's.  I also know very few people who have been diagnosed that had family history, in fact most people I know have NO family history (myself included).

    If new guidelines come out for prostate cancer screenings 10 years later than the current guidelines then I will consider it at least a fair (if stupid) guideline. 

  • cheers247
    cheers247 Member Posts: 270
    edited November 2009

    Tracy, I know what you mean, I was just thinking that if this was a "mens" cancer they would never delay the screening guidelines for 10 years!!  I'll send an e-mail to the UW guy as well.  I'll let you know if I hear anything.  XOXO Jessica

  • libby
    libby Member Posts: 165
    edited November 2009

    I watched the program also and listened to both the experts.  I am interested in an informal poll from all of you.  How many of you, who were diagnosed under 50, were diagnosed by mammogram, and how many of you found a lump or abnormality first, that a mammogram did not pick up? 

     Aside from questioning the mammogram screening delay, I also feel enough emphasis is not put on breast self-exam - women think they are safe if the mammogram comes back clean.  I am in the over 50 category and mine was found on mammogram, no lump or breast change that could be felt. 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2009

    LIbby, I was dx at 44.  A routine, non digital mammogram "found" my tumor - and then digital mammograms, ultrasound, biopsy and MRI confirmed the results.  My tumor happened to be non-palpable - so I could not feel it nor could the teams at both Virginia Mason and Seattle Cancer Care Alliance - about 10 docs (including residents) total tried to find it by hand and could not - this is with them knowing where it was.

    I know many women that found their tumors, and some that the mammogram did not pick up the tumor, but for me it was mammogram only.

    If these new guidelines were in place, I would never had mammograms as I erroneous believed that family history was a big component of BC - we all know that 80% of women with BC have no family history.

  • tkone
    tkone Member Posts: 511
    edited November 2009

    I found mine.  It was palpable.  I had a mammogram 4 months earlier that showed nothing.

  • golfer779
    golfer779 Member Posts: 1,378
    edited November 2009

    Libby, although I was on the mamo parade from age 40 (because of an Aunt with BC), I never had a squish that even came up suspicious (yet none we're performed digitally).  Had a mamo in Jan of 07 at age 43,(looked good),then  noticed on my own a "funky" firmness to my breast later that summer.  Was scheduled for a gyno physical in Sept ... ended up rescheduling due to doc being out of town til the first of October.   With a quick once over by my gyno ... she turned serious as a heart attack and had me in for a mamo, U/S and biopsy the next day .... the rest if history. 

    Bottom line ... yes my tumor was recognized on a mamo 9 months later (even being ILC) which is very hard to diagnose with dense breast in mamo's.    Until modern medicine comes up with better diagnostics, WTF to tell women to wait until their 50 something !!!

    On that note .... waiting for my MRI results from yesterday, and will be having my digi boob squish on lefty tomorrow ... hoping for nothing but a clean bill of health to get my mind wrapped around my recon surgery in January !  

  • daffodil45
    daffodil45 Member Posts: 76
    edited November 2009

    OMG! The things that happen when I haven't checked in a couple of days!!!!!!

    Susan! Wow! Go! Go! GO!!!!!!!! Dr. Kaplan was furious. There is some big breast conference in San Antonio in December, where he will be presenting two papers against all of this craziness.

    Libby... I was diagnosed at 44. Neither cancer showed on the digital mammo. I found the big one, and the triple neg showed up on the MRI. I have been having mammos since I was 28 because I was "lumpy". Digital ever since that came out. No family hx.

    Cindy....I had 4 rounds of TC. I think my infusions were about 5 hours. Like Susan said, first there is lab work that they have to check, then, because of the doctaxel(Taxotere) there are premeds to do. (I can't remember....Benadryl,decadron,Zofran) and then for me, a very slow drip. I usually ended up napping.I think that I had the Cytoxan first, then the Taxotere. Good luck....hopefully it will be an uneventful, snoozy time.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2009

    Carol - I so agree - until they come up with a better test - we can't just wait until we are 50 !!!  I am still so p.o.'d about this idiotic task force.....I sent the UW guy (he is also at GH in Seattle) an email - can't figure out how to cut and paste on here....

     Got a letter from SCCA that a mammogram was all clear, so that's good.  My oncology nurse called with the blood test results of both menopause and vitamin D.  My vitamin D level was 22 or 23 a year ago.  I started taking vita D after surgery but quit for chemo.  Just started back in September - but I was taking 4,000 iu a day.  Well, now my vita D level is 55!  Guess the pills work!  My onc. wants me to back off a bit (she only recommends 2,000 a day max) and told me the optimal level is 35-50 and above 50 is too high.  So, I am to back off and only take 400 iu a day.

    Can't wait until we all get together next month!

    S

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