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  • LittleRed
    LittleRed Member Posts: 223
    edited November 2009

    sopris:  walk or crawl - when you get across that line you're a winner, girl!

    MTG: the apple cider compress is great.  Thank you for sharing.

    sakura73: enjoy the sunshine and smell the flowers!!

    Ladies: Be good to you -

  • linn56
    linn56 Member Posts: 210
    edited November 2009

    I had # 16 last Friday so I am halfway. For the first time I have that tanned/pink "square" some of you have mentioned, that tells me exactly what area is being zapped. It sure is good to find out ahead of time, on these boards, about a lot of this. It helps a lot.

    I have a big patch of darker "tan" about 4 inches under the arm pit, I wonder what that is all about? It's like the midpoint of the swelling. They had to do a lot of tinkering last week to re-target. I still have the swelling so I think that is changing the angles.

    After Friday's treatment I became very sore/tender inside. The nipple is dry and sore too but it is the inside that is the most achey. Saturday I was walking through a museum with family and I was so sore I could not concentrate. And I had looked forward to the excursion all week as a "reward"! I took some ibuprofen (it was the only thing I had with me) and was surprised that it helped. Not completely but about 50%. I sat in the  back seat going home so I could cradle the breast from the bumps of the ride.

    I'm wondering if the rest of you take anything for pain, and what it is. So far my skin seems to be OK with just the aloe 2x a day. The doctor said to treat the nipple more frequently but it's hard to arrange getting undressed in the middle of the day, and letting it dry (it's cold here, and I'm not alone much). The texture of my skin is getting rougher but that does not bother me, it's not like a rash.

    I know what you mean about people taking the overly cheerful view. That's OK for me to take, if and when I want to (sometimes I do, sometimes I don't). I find I'm annoyed when what I'm going through is downplayed. I find my husband is going back to "normal" now, having gotten over the shock. He keeps saying things like, "It's over. Radiation is just insurance". Well, I don't feel like it's "over". For the rest of my life I will have the threat of this hanging over me, how can it be "over"?

    My neighbor's sister has colon cancer, another neighbor across the street had uterine cancer. We were talking about it, at a family get-together, and he (and the others) were saying how much worse it would be to have those. Well, yes, maybe, but I don't want to hear that now. I've been kicked in the head, and I'm still reeling. I'm not sure that my emotional state should be put on a scale and rated lower than what other people "deserve".

  • MTG
    MTG Member Posts: 646
    edited November 2009

    Linn - Try Aleve. Since it's an anti inflammatory it works directly on the inflammation which causes the pain vs. just masking the pain. It worked well for me.

  • vtmom
    vtmom Member Posts: 46
    edited November 2009

    Lynn56, someone suggested to me to go bra-less and go shirtless to bed. I took this advice and the swelling and pain went away the next day. During the day I'm wearing very loose, soft cotten shirts with a loose, warm wool vest over. With not much clothes on it's easier to put on extra aloe. I try and put some more on whenever I have to go to the bathroom. When I sleep, I lay on my back and put a teddy bear on my belly to hold up the sheets.

    All I have needed so far is ibuprofen. Only 14 more rads to go - and after this week it will only be 9.

    Hugs to you all!

  • PauldingMom
    PauldingMom Member Posts: 927
    edited November 2009

    kime- Sounds like you are triple negative like myself. At first I was like YEA!! No Hormones, then I was like, oh no, NO Hormones!  Surgery, Chemo. and Rads. and then keep your fingers crossed.

    I'm also doing the Asparagus juice thing. I mix it half and half with V-8 and it's not to bad.  

    Brookside-so sorry to hear about the flu, not what any of us need right now. As for me the fatigue is not as bad as yours but it gets to me. I'm pretty short tempered and could sleep all day if allowed. I hope much of yours is from the flu and you start feeling better ASAP.

    Okay girls, don't read this if you don't want to, it's kinda yucky. The deep redness under my arm turned to blisters this weekend and are now open. Yuck and ouch!! I keep using the silverdine (sp) and it still hurts like heck. This morning I rolled over and my arm pit smelt like butt. I've smelt that smell before when my chubby daughter had a bacterial infection in her baby fat rolls. So that's what I am guessing I have. I washed it with anti-bacterial soap, which hurt like he-double toothpicks and slapped on the cream. I'm afraid to use the vinegar as everything seems to burn right now except the silverdine which only helps for about 2 hours. Going to see the doctor today and hopefully get something else. I'm sick of whineing but damn it every move I make with that arm is painful. Like having a cactus under my pit. 
    Am I the only one???? 

  • linn56
    linn56 Member Posts: 210
    edited November 2009
    PauldingMom , could it be a yeast infection of the skin? My husband had one once and it smelled awful. He had a prescription soap and cream for it.
  • MTG
    MTG Member Posts: 646
    edited November 2009

    Paulding Mom - The blisters, pain and infection stink (literally, apparently); the "smelling like butt" is funny. Good that you're keeping your sense of humor ! But really, who needs this on top of everything else! Please let us know what the doc says. I hope you feel better soon,

  • liztaylor1
    liztaylor1 Member Posts: 95
    edited November 2009

    Hello, dear radiation friends,

    Today was 27/35.  I start boosts (whatever those are) on Wednesday.  My breast is a light red - like a soft sunburn.  Doctor says it looks "good".  He said some people have a "lobster" color.  Still using mometasome right after treatment.  Now also using aloe and aquaphor.

    I just don't feel very good.  Did a social thing on Saturday eve and church on Sunday.  That was about it for activities.  This fatigue is something else.  I drive 2 hours r/t to work every day - go for rad (5" from my office) at  noon - eat lunch in my car.  Plus, these hot flashes....

    I read your notes everyday but haven't had the energy to add a note.  My cardiac results were "normal".  Will have a hysterectomy on December 22 (so I can recover over the holidays).  My surgeon uses the "daVinci robot" which cuts down on  pain and time off from work.

    Right now, I feel like I've been hit by a truck.

    Thank you for sharing your experiences.  I read what you write every day.

    Love,

    Liz

  • Sunone
    Sunone Member Posts: 151
    edited November 2009

    PauldingMom - yes I was very excited about not having to take Tamoxifen as my med onc wanted me to if I was hormone receptor positive - the rad onc was laughing at me because I was so happy I didn't have to take it, but then it does sink in and I realize that is one line of defense gone. I really hope your doctor was able to do something helpful for you today to help with your blisters and pain. I am so sorry that you going through that.

  • josybee
    josybee Member Posts: 86
    edited November 2009

    Hi Ladies, Started rads today #1 of 28 have a ways to go and can't wait till it is over with. I was in and out pretty quick this morning. Tomorrow after rads I will be going to work ( 3 days a week) They would not give me the herceptin last week because my ejection fraction was 50%, have to see a Cardiologist on Thursday. Anyone know anything about that??? Any info would help. Thanks,Joanne

  • PauldingMom
    PauldingMom Member Posts: 927
    edited November 2009

    Sorry Joanne, I don't know anything about ejection fraction but you should search it on here. I'm sure someone has information that might help. 

    Doc said I do have a small infection but I only have rads. today and tomorrow and then a 4 day break so I should heal up well with the meds. I am already taking. Then one more treatment and I move on to boasts. This was great news for me and really made me feel much better mentally. Sunday the 22. Is my office the only place doing Sunday treatments for the Thanksgiving holiday? My hubby is going to go with me and we are going to stop at IHOP on the way home. Then I came home and what is sitting in my mailbox? a 1/2 off coupon for IHOP. Icing on the cake!. It's the little things, ya know.

    I was laying in bed last night, thinking when I should have been sleeping, and I thought about what my response would be this year to the annual table question, "What am I thankful for?" The rule at our house is you can not say, God, Jesus, or anything religious. You can not name people or feelings either. So I lay there thinking.............of course all the bad stuff popped into my head which always happens when I am awake from pain and then all the good stuff came to mind. I am thankful for education that  people received that are now able to treat me, thankful to the results of my Bracca test, thankful for this discussion board and all the women on it, thankful for the Chemo-Angle program and participants, ACS, Crickett, and on and on and on. It's going to be a great Thanksgiving!!! We all have so much to be thankful for even while we are dealing with the C word. Hold your head up ladies!!

    Got to talking to a lady in the waiting room yesterday, she called my cancer the Popular cancer because of all the awareness out there. So there ya go, I'm thankful for being in the Popular group! 

  • PauldingMom
    PauldingMom Member Posts: 927
    edited November 2009

    Oh yeah, one more thing. Doc said to try corn starch along with the Silverdine. Gonna give it a try today. 

  • blondie45
    blondie45 Member Posts: 580
    edited November 2009

    MTG - Thanks much for that tip with apple cider vinegar.

    sopris - you said it so perfectly, we have a positive attitude just getting out of bed and going for treatments.

  • MTG
    MTG Member Posts: 646
    edited November 2009

    PauldingMom - That's really, really beautiful.  Thank you.

  • linn56
    linn56 Member Posts: 210
    edited November 2009

    You said it all.

    By Thanksgiving I will be almost done with rads. Something else I'm grateful for: It could be so much worse: I think that all the time (but I don't want anyone ELSE to tell me that...important distinction!). The last few days, my time slot is bracketed by 2 women in wheelchairs, in oxygen masks. I have no idea if they have BC or some other kind of cancer, but it makes me grateful to be able to walk in and out of radiation on my own 2 feet.

    It has been quite tolerable so far, but now I'm anxious again. I find I have some pain for about 2-3 hours after treatment, which then fades. Not the skin, which is just red, though the nipple is pretty sore: but pain inside. Aching  and twinges of sharper pain, sharp little pinpoints in my sternum too.  

    Last night for the first time I had pain that actually woke me up. I could not find a position that did not hurt either the sore breast or the sternum. I moved to a separate bed when I started rads because I found I had to sleep in the fetal position with the breast cradled and there was not enough room.  I did not get up to take anything because I would have to ferret around in the medicine cabinet in the bathroom and wake up my husband. He sleeps badly as it is. This morning I found a full bottle of Aleve. Thanks for telling me about it. I think I will have to make room for that on the bedside table along with the aloe and other such stuff. I tried some Udder balm type lanolin cream last night too. It felt pretty good but is greasy. But now I will have to put away the pretty pajamas I have been wearing, or ruin them. I am resisting.

  • MTG
    MTG Member Posts: 646
    edited November 2009

    Re: comfortable positions while sleeping, I found that the following worked for me - (1) one extra squishy full sized pillow which I used while sleeping on my side or even partially on my stomach  to cushion my  radiated breast and (2) a small firm pillow (like an accent pillow) which I wedged under my arm, at the arm pit (and yes, I did put a pillow case on it) so that I didn't rub the skin under the arm and even gave it some breathing room. Hope this helps.

  • tracyanne
    tracyanne Member Posts: 112
    edited November 2009

    Liz, found out today that I start boosts tomorrow, too.  Wasn't expecting that...will have to ask the radiation oncologist about it tomorrow at my weekly check-in.  He hadn't mentioned that in discussing my treatment plan at the beginning.

    I too am just plain not feeling well, especially toward the end of the week.  My reconstructed breast hurts badly at the side--maybe in part because the fluid build up doesn't have natural breast tissue to help it absorb back into the body as quickly.  Also have nausea that comes on strong, though as I think I've said before it may be due to all the ibuprofen I'm taking for the swelling pain and deep breast pain.  After nothing but 7up and crackers since noon last Wednesday, I still vomited on Thursday morning after taking my multivitamin.  My poor stomach didn't like that at all.

    I wonder what we can expect as far as different/increased side effects from the boosts?  Guess I'll see starting tomorrow.

  • dsgirl
    dsgirl Member Posts: 276
    edited November 2009

    Tracyanne,  I did not know about boost (for me) either at first.  I think it was after I had completed 25 treatments he mentioned we now have 3 more regular treatments left, and the we do 8 boosts.

    Then he explained it was to directly zap the tumor site only, the rest of the breast is done with radiation. I was marked with black marker, it was taped over and cautioned to shower with my back to the showerhead, do not get the tape or the marked area wet, huh ? how on earth do you manage to shower and not get wet all over ?  I have settled for washing the treated area with cottonballs, phisoderm soap and rinse gently with water soaked cotton balls, I do not apply anything to the approx 1 inch scuare that is all marked up and taped over. The rest of my breast gets a bath and I still apply the aloe vera -, skin feels like leather but does not look too bad. Knock on wood, no oozing or open sores visible.

    I too have some deep breast pain and stabbing pains that come and go, mild nausea, as far as I have read from other posts, it's normal after rads. I take an over the counter travel sickness med called Meclizine HCI 25 mg daily that my doc recommended both for nausea and for the travel I do to get to treatment daily. Seems to help me.

    I will be done on friday the 13th, Freakie ?  I hope not. Actually I consider the # 13 a lucky number, so I am ok with that. Now I can concentrate on getting the darn sciatica taken care of, then on to the dreaded next step, reclast and femara. Still sitting on the fence on those 2 issues, but will have to make up my mind before too long, see the surgeon and med. onc both in 2 weeks and they want to start asap. I have to deal with one thing at a time, I am such a whoooz when it comes to pain, and when a drug has side effects I always seem to be able to get them all. grrrrrrr.

    Next post I promise will be better, wishing you all a Happy Thanksgiving. I do have thing to say Thanks for.

    Take care you all

    dsgirl

  • kayok
    kayok Member Posts: 46
    edited November 2009

    Good morning, and thanks to all you friends,    Reading all your postings helps us to know we are all in this together.    I had a lumpectomy on 10/8 and am suppose to start my Rads on Nov. 16, only problem is I am still having drainage form the incision, guess it is a seroma, since I was allergic to the glue they used on me and started draining 2 weeks after surgery.   Has anyone had this experience and will they do radiation while I have] this problem?   I know you can't heal during radiation but the Doc doesn't seem as concerned as I am.

  • Suzanne3131
    Suzanne3131 Member Posts: 3,953
    edited November 2009

    Hi All~

    Do you all know that this week is Radiation Therapist Week?  I found out today when I saw bunches of balloons at my center.  I am definitely taking some cupcakes to my girls...they are so very good to me.  I know that many of you are fond of your staff, so I thought you would like to know.

    Thank you all for being there.  I don't chime in much, but I really do appreciate all of your posts.  It seriously helps...This whole thing can feel so lonely and isolating.  Like one of the other ladies had said "when you are alone on that cold metal table"...It is very good to know that there is understanding among us.  Thank you. 

  • Colette37
    Colette37 Member Posts: 387
    edited November 2009

    (((((((((((((Brookside!)))))))))))))))  Lots and lots of hugs!  I am so sorry that you are having to deal with the swine flu on top of all of this!  How scary and exhausting it must be!    The vinegar is a good idea.  I still have 8 treatments...3 on the area that is burning the most and then the 5 boosts.  I am happy to hear that you are done and now able to take all of the vitamins especially while you are sick!  That will help you boost your body.  I was also reading about how vitamin D can help boost your immunity too...I have been taking 6,000 IUs a day..and it isn't an anti-oxidant so I should be able to take them without their getting upset.

    Sopris...I agree with you about as long as I show up for treatment, that is positive enough for me.  I do get saddened because of how much I have to sleep and how many naps I take...I have 3 kids (9, 5, and a 1 year old) so it is hard to totally let Daddy take care of them...although he is a great Dad, I know he gets tired responding to them 24/7.  I can't even really carry the toddler any longer because with the skin peeling if she grabs me the wrong way can cause a LOT of damage.

  • PauldingMom
    PauldingMom Member Posts: 927
    edited November 2009

    Ouch Colette37 I feel you pain. With 6 toddlers in the house here I'm so careful not to let them touch that side. I've gotten really good at doing things left handed. 

    Hope you feel better real quick Brookside! 

    I don't know about the drainage Kayok. I do know that the first 15 or so Rads. didn't effect my skin much at all. Hopefully that will give you some additional time to heal at the port site.

    Radiation Therapist Week!!! Thanks for letting us know. I am making beaded book marks for my ladies, and printing a cute poem I found on this site.

    LOL my hubby looked at me last night and said, "That's one Hott Tittie." so true.

    Stay cool ladies!  

  • jaelsne
    jaelsne Member Posts: 82
    edited November 2009

    Hi everyone,

      I haven't posted much, but I thought I'd check in.  I finished #25 out of 30 today.  I'm happy to say that my skin is "perfect," according to the radiation onc.  I'm starting to see sunburn, and my armpit looks like a baked potato, but so far I haven't experienced a lot of the stuff I've been reading about from the rest of you.

      I was diagnosed in February, had a mastectomy, and went' through about six months of chemo before starting rads, so you think I'd be used to this stuff by now.  It's odd, but my mood was MUCH better when I was going through chemo than it is now that I'm no longer suffering through.  I am laying awake nights, just like when I was first diagnosed--worrying about dying from this, worrying about my daughter's future without me, being furious with my horrible gyny who didn't take me seriously when I showed him my hard duct, and the breast center that misread my mammos.  My emotions are nearly as strong as when I was first diagnosed. 

      I shared this with my wonderful radiation oncologist.  She told me that this is 100% NORMAL now that I'm nearing the end of my treatment.  She said that nearly everyone goest through a tough adjustment--fighting cancer has been my full-time job for nearly a year, and as of next week I'll no longer be tethered to doctors or watched as carefully.  She also said that I've been through a lot, and this is partly post-traumatic stress disorder.  She said that I should pay particular attention to my emotional health, and see a therapist, do meditation, etc right now.

      Just wanted to share this with others who may be going through the same thing.  With only one week left of treatment, I thought I'd be dancing.  Instead, I'm just worn out and tired of the whole darn thing!

    Jo Anne 

  • sopris
    sopris Member Posts: 29
    edited November 2009

    Joysbee--when your ejection fraction falls it means your heart's efficiency is falling.  It isn't pumping blood as well as it was at first. They do a MUGA or echocardiogram to monitor this while we are on Herceptin.  It is reversible but it means you have to back off the Herceptin.  

    Jaelsne--I have to agree.  This is day 24/33 and I have been a wreck for a week.  I discovered they were nuking some of my lymphnodes--without telling me--and I went ballistic.  My rads doc is a #$%& and told me I could deal with it or leave.  Nice!   Now I am just focused on getting the heck done with this phase of treatment and finding a different rads doc for follow up.  Can't trust this one.

    When I told my treatment team how I felt about rads--how hard it was to lay alone on that table everyday--they took it personally.  I KNOW many of us feel bad about rads, but my treatment people are apparently in denial.  Well, your doc is right.  Getting support thru therapy, friends, family, spiritual resources is very important to get us thru all of these changes. 

  • PauldingMom
    PauldingMom Member Posts: 927
    edited November 2009

    Sopris- So sorry you are not happy with your rad docs. That has got to make going to treatment so much harder. I told my group the other day that I hoped they wouldn't take it personally, but I was sick of seeing them. They laughed and said they understood completely. 

    Jaelsne-Yep sick of it too. Also tired of laying in bed and wondering if this crap will come back. No hormones for me thus the end of the road for treatment. It's scary. I originally thought after treatment Reoccurance is scaring me and keeping me awake at night. I know it scares my family too, so I hate talking about it to them. I might need to seek some outside help. My spirit has changes so much since those early days of Chemo. I want that back and don't seem able to get it right now. A big break for Thanksgiving with some long walks in the woods might do me some real good. 

    Hugs to all, Lisa 

  • chrisct
    chrisct Member Posts: 2,662
    edited November 2009

    Sopris - so sorry your rads people are so insensitive.  Sounds like they need to get into another line of work.  Deal with it or leave - WTF?! 

    Lisa - I'm so sad to hear that your spirit has changed.  I hear you on not wanting to talk to your family about it. I find myself making comments and after I start talking, I think, "I shouldn't be saying this to them..."  I hope the long walks do help.  It's going to take some time to process all that we've been through. 

    ((((((((Everyone))))))))))) 

  • linn56
    linn56 Member Posts: 210
    edited November 2009

    Thanks  to everyone on here for all the help. We are in the best position to help each other. I am so sorry for those of you that are feeling bad right now. I think it comes and goes...everyone has some vulnerable moments. You WILL feel strong again.

    I think a walk in the woods IS in order! Right at the start of rads I was very down too. My brother-in-law (houseguest right now) pushed me to go out and walk with him. He is prescribed to do this every day, recovering from a triple bypass operation. I felt bad sending him out to do it alone. When I went with, I did feel better afterward. Must be the endorphins induced...plus the restoration of the spirit that comes from contact with nature. Do it!

  • Kimmer51
    Kimmer51 Member Posts: 26
    edited November 2009

    Hi everybody.  I have a question.  I am nearly complete with my radiation - 2 more boosts and done.  I haven't really experienced the fatigue that I hear so much about - until yesterday.  Has anyone had the fatigue hit at the end and how long will it take to go away.

    Also, the skin under my breast and under my arm pit is so sore, red, peeling.  They are having me use Aquaphor and Neosporyn.  How long does it take for the soreness to clear up and the skin to heal?

  • josybee
    josybee Member Posts: 86
    edited November 2009

    sopris, I saw the Cardiologist yesterday, and yea I will not be doing the Herceptin. She put me on 2 different pills and next week I am having an echocardiogram and the following week a stress test. Don't know how long I will be off the Herceptin.

  • Eph3_12
    Eph3_12 Member Posts: 4,781
    edited November 2009

    ME DONE NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  HOORAY!!!!!!

    Joni

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