October Rads. 2009

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  • LittleRed
    LittleRed Member Posts: 223
    edited November 2009

    Dear PauldingMom:

    I have the same thing - deep brown/red - hurts now.  I keep slopping stuff on, same stuff I've been using, but now it sometimes stings.  This is my last week of rads...can't wait.  Good luck with yours - tell us if you find something soothing..

    Be good to you -

  • sopris
    sopris Member Posts: 29
    edited November 2009

    PaudlingMom and Little Red--Ask for something with lidocaine in it.  My nipple is sore and the cream I was given lightly numbs everything.  It's called Radia-Guard Radiation Treatment Lotion.  I use Biafine over the top.  I am red after 14 treatments--nice square of red between the magic marker dots.  I hope this doesn't mean I'm gonna blister and weep before this new torture is over.  

  • Suzanne3131
    Suzanne3131 Member Posts: 3,953
    edited November 2009

    Hi Ladies, 

    My Onc looked at my pinkening and slightly inflamed breast after 10/35 and prescribed Triamcinolone Cream (Rx)  Do any of you have any experience with this cream?  Looks like a steroid for itching/inflamation?  Thanks! 

  • LittleRed
    LittleRed Member Posts: 223
    edited November 2009

    sopris:

    Yeah - got the square...was thinking if I was yellow instead I could paint blue pants on it and call it Sponge Bob...

    Thank you for the recommendations Sopris and Suzanne3131!

  • brookside
    brookside Member Posts: 77
    edited November 2009

    Hi sopris

    I used that Radiaplex and I do believe I was allergic to it...not sure though.  My sternal area is all red and really itchy..so much so that I can't sleep at night well.  The rest of the area is just red.  I am now using pure aloe vera and that does help a little better I believe.  I FINISHED friday and I was hoping I would feel better just KNOWing that, but I now have the flu.  I FEEL worse than I did getting radiation.  Does anyone know if I should be worried about the flu and just getting over radiation???

  • LittleRed
    LittleRed Member Posts: 223
    edited November 2009

    So sorry brookside:

    Do what they say...lots and lots of fluids. 

    Be good to you -

  • MTG
    MTG Member Posts: 646
    edited November 2009

    Brookside - I also developed what seemed to be "allergies". The more lotion I put on (and I tried all sorts) the angrier and itchier the red bumps became.

    Here's what and did and it worked: Try talking a bath (not too warm though) and really soak your boob and/ or gently wash it until the residue from all the goop we've been putting on is gone. I was shocked at how long it took. I'd gently wash, then rinse but the residue was still there so I kept repeating the cycle. Then I patted myself dry and took a nap without any top on. A few hours later the bumps were almost gone as was the itching. From that point forward, I'd apply a light layer of a light moisturizer (I esp. liked XClair at this stage) only twice a day. After that, when I would occassionally feel my skin reacting by getting itchy bumps, I'd go to the sink as soon as I felt it, washed off the lotion and let my breast have a good long break. Hope this works for you as well.

  • brookside
    brookside Member Posts: 77
    edited November 2009

    Dear MTG

    You know, I think you're right.  When I bathe, there is just this big slick spot that just never goes away on my chest.  I'll try your suggestion.  I did follow someone else's suggestion of after a shower, just patting it dry and just letting it breathe with nothing on it at all (lying in bed au naturalle).  It was chilly but it worked too.  A light application of aloe after that does help but only temporarily....I wonder how long I'll have this redness to contend with.  Anybody out there??

  • LittleRed
    LittleRed Member Posts: 223
    edited November 2009

    brookside:

    I just got back from rads and spoke with the nurse today:  I'm so red/brown, particularly under my arm.  It's readly to start weeping.  She mixed me up some lidocaine and Aquafor.  She said 2-3x daily and it should help.  (Thank you sopris!!)

    I asked her how long I can expect for it to be irritated after I finish rads this Friday.  She said I'll continue to 'cook' (like when a roast comes out of the oven) for another 3-4 days, after which point, the tissue and skin should start to heal.  Horrible analogy I know, but pretty accurate. 

    Hang in there ladies...we can do it.

    Be good to you -

  • MTG
    MTG Member Posts: 646
    edited November 2009

    OMG, my cake was considered Obscene and deleted from Photobucket !!!! That's almost as funny as the cake itself.

  • LittleRed
    LittleRed Member Posts: 223
    edited November 2009

    MTG:

    I can't imagine the cake was considered obscene...this disease and the treatments we endure...now that's what's obscene...

  • Eph3_12
    Eph3_12 Member Posts: 4,781
    edited November 2009

    MTG-Did the techs love the cake?  Congrats on being done!!!  I have 9 more to go-Yahoo!

  • brookside
    brookside Member Posts: 77
    edited November 2009

    Dear DSgirl

    I just read some postings and saw you went to a chiropractor.  That is GREAT and I'm glad he/she helped you.  I am a chiropractor and I love it.  We don't end up killing our patients like the medical profession does and we actually help AND it doesn't cost a zillion of dollars!.  Keep up the good work and stick in there.  The best thing to remember is to do your stretches and follow his protocol. 
    Wish I would have seen the cake pic! 

    Well must be off to bed and fight this swine flu!  The irony of this is that cancer didn't get me but something from a pig is killing me right now!  AND I'm originally from Iowa and I used to LOVE the little bastards and now look.

  • sopris
    sopris Member Posts: 29
    edited November 2009

    MTG

    That cake was the best thing I've seen in a while.  Made me laugh.  Some folks just don't get it, now, do they?

    So, you survived the boost?  Was it better or worse than the rest of this rads stuff? 

  • MTG
    MTG Member Posts: 646
    edited November 2009

    Sopris - The boosts were FAR,FAR easier ! My worst area from rads was a small part of my chest just under the clavicle; I guess because the skin is thinnest there. The boosts were  no where near that; just immediately around the tumor site and that's the only area that was impacted, It got red but that's it. Pretty much a breeze.

    Brookside - Holy cow ! BC and Swine Flu ? That really stinks (not the word I'd prefer to use but now I need to watch myself about being obscene ~smile~) Go to bed, take it easy and watch out for locusts !

    Eph_312 - Thanks for asking. Yep, they loved the cake, esp the details: areolas and nipples, tattoo marks, pinkish "skin" and, on the tray, I collaged my Biafine prescription as well as labels from the various lotions I bought or was given. And did I mention the cake was strawberry ? So speckled red inside. All just about fell over laughing. Camera phones came out as did some sick jokes. And at the end of my final boost - and they do this for everyone - all the techs came in clapping, they gave me a "diploma and had me stomp my body cast (kindof like the breaking of a glass in a jewish wedding ceremony). Definitely more fun than you're supposed to have during radiation !

  • chrisct
    chrisct Member Posts: 2,662
    edited November 2009

    OMG - I loved that cake!  Why did they take it off?  I want to protest.  I'm with LittleRed - it's the disease and tx that are obscene.  How did you make that cake?  It looked so realistic - strawberry cake LOL!  Too clever.

  • MTG
    MTG Member Posts: 646
    edited November 2009
    Chrisct - Although I had downloaded all sorts of instruction for Do It Yourself Boob Cakes, I ultimately chickened out and BOUGHT a cake pan from a "specialty" (use your imagination) shop in Portland Maine. I bought boob cupcake molds too. Each about $13 so well worth it since they shipped really quickly (Although there are less expensive vendors selling the same pan, this lady was soooo nice. She sent it out that day and even added some Boob Chocolate Lollipops as a present from her for finishing rads.) I also figure I'll use them for my surgeon and my med onc so again, seemed a sensible investment ~smile~. If anyone wants the contact information for the store, PM me and the same goes if you 're near NYC or even DC (spent many years there and go back often) and want to borrow my pans.
  • linn56
    linn56 Member Posts: 210
    edited November 2009

    Brookside: when did you find out you have swine flu? Was it after all your treatments were done? That's one thing I've worried about: not swine flu specifically, just getting sick when my immune system is not at its best. Going to the hospital everyday and being exposed to more germs than usual. I do my best not to touch the doorknobs but it's hard to avoid. I have been fighting off a cold for a week now.

  • tracyanne
    tracyanne Member Posts: 112
    edited November 2009

    Anyone else having deep breast pain?  I'm on day 20 of 33, and the rad onco said it's irritation from the chest wall radiation...take ibuprofen.  Sigh.  I'm so sick of taking tylenol and ibuprofen...I think it's contributing to that queasiness I feel off and on now.

    So, the breast hurts and often that extends to armpit and down my arm.  Stopped wearing my regular bra because it pressed against that outside swelling...glad I saved my post-surgery cotton "bra" and am using that now.  Have to dress in layers because the natural breast doesn't quite sit the same in that bra now...

    I sure am tired of hurting.  Seems like that breast has caused me pain in some way or another, one degree or another, since the late July biopsy.

  • Suzanne3131
    Suzanne3131 Member Posts: 3,953
    edited November 2009

    Tracyanne ~ I do have deep breast pain and armpit pain, but only from time to time, like in spasms.  It seems especially bad at night, but maybe that's just because I am laying there quietly and not busy doing something distracting?  It is not as bad as the biopsy pain, which was relentless.  I am only on day 13/35.  Incidently, I am also queasy a lot...I finally had an onc nurse who acknowledged that nausea happens.  Most of the staff just shake their heads no, like it's not the rads making me feel sick.  This one nurse says she hears it too often to deny it!  

    Brookside and Linn ~ Gosh I am sorry to hear you're sick.  My heart goes out to you.  Take good care...rest...drink loads of water.  I hope you both feel better soon.

    Love and Blessings to all!   

  • sopris
    sopris Member Posts: 29
    edited November 2009

    I have had pain as well.  They look at me like I'm nuts.  They act like this is the first time anyone has been 'uncomfortable' so soon...  I think they have no solution, so it is simpler to must say nothing.  I also am sick of taking tylenol and advil.  I think we will pay for over use of those pills eventually, but what else is there?  They keep telling me it is pain from the surgical site, or that it's from pulling the muscles around my breast.  But, I do yoga.  I am strong and (used to be) flexible.  Reaching over my head doesn't cause me pain--except since I started rads.  I think the rads alter the structure of the breast tissue and nerves.  My medical onc acknowledges that the nerves get irritated by the rads.  I think that's why we get intermittent pain.

  • Colette37
    Colette37 Member Posts: 387
    edited November 2009

    I have been lurking here for some time now.  I started rads on Oct. 8th for 33 treatments.  I had a bilateral Mastectomy on August 25th, and recon started on my right on Sept. 15.

    I have to add that I am worried about being sick with the flu too after going through all that we have in the past few months.  I have 3 kids...9, 5, and 1...so that is an added worry for me.  My PCP only had the nasal vaccine, which has the live virus, that we can't have or be around anyone who has had it.

    I have turned red, but no weaping as of yet and I am hoping that I don't.  I am worried about the "Boost" because I have the mast. scar that I am worried about breaking down.

    Although I have had nausea from the get go,  they kept trying to deny that it was them...they have been blunt that I will burn and become sore with the rads and they have also talked about the shooting pains, which I am now getting.  What bothers me the most is as they are giving the rads I get the shooting pain which feels like a stabbing in my left chest.  Even though I have not had any positive lymph nodes, they are doing all my nodes because of the size of the cancer (10 cm) and the fact that I had an internal node light up on the bone scan in my breast bone area.

    I hate rads and I hate when they are zapping me.  I feel like I want to jump up and say "ENOUGH!" I end up taking a xanax before going there because I hate it so much.  The whole idea of cooking me just to kill the cancer freaks me out.

    I do have a wonderful husband who has been there from day one.  I would never have made it this far without him.

    Sopris..I haven't had any problems with my range of motion, but since starting rads it has gotten tighter and tighter...they say it is just the skin, but I doubt that.

    I have to admit, I am also irritated that the person who is seen directly after me comes in the dressing room with her husband because she is in a wheel chair..that part doesn't bother me that bad..but what is really irritating is that I don't feel well anyway and they are obvious smokers which even makes me feel that much more sick!  It is 10 times worse than the heavy perfume people!

  • blondie45
    blondie45 Member Posts: 580
    edited November 2009

    Colette37, I also hate the radiation and the fact about burning. Half way through my rads they put another sheet like thing over my chest and they told me "this is to turn you red" and that just bugs me. I actually would rather be doing the 12 infusions of Taxol again believe it or not.

  • vtmom
    vtmom Member Posts: 46
    edited November 2009

    Colette45 & Blondie45 I invite you to embrace your radiation. I know it's hard.... I too am red and sore and tired & not even 1/2 way through. But I truly believe that what you think and feel is part of the healing. You might want to vomit after reading this.... but when I am getting zapped, I thank the radiation and visualize it killing any lurking cancer cells. I think that because of this treatment I will finally been done with this chapter of my life called "OMG I have Breast Cancer". I have been on this run away train since last March, and in only 3 1/2 weeks I will be getting off, and will resume my life.

    I also feel that this is a giant wake-up call for me. I have re-evaluated my life. I'm spending more time with family and friends. (I admit I was a real workaholic) and am stretching and taking time to get outside and enjoy the day.

    OK... I'm from Vermont, and we're all tree hugger type folks here. But seriously. Be strong and greatful for what you have. AND yes, I am writing this for me too. This is one of the hardest things I have ever gone through.... but I do think the bout of poison ivy I had that covered my arms and legs was a little worse.... well.... maybe not. But it was very brutal.

    Hugs to you sisters of the rad. Hang in there... I'm rooting for us all!

  • MTG
    MTG Member Posts: 646
    edited November 2009

    sopris wrote: I am also irritated that the person who is seen directly after me comes in the dressing room with her husband because she is in a wheel chair..that part doesn't bother me that bad..but what is really irritating is that I don't feel well anyway and they are obvious smokers which even makes me feel that much more sick! 

    Now THAT's one of the few things that, with a little manouevring, you may be able to control. Try talking to the techs, explain your nausea and then "helpfully" suggest that since the women is in a wheel chair and needs assistance perhaps it would be best all around if they had the extra room that changing in an examination room could afford them . The changing room would remain smokefree for all patients and the couple wouldn't have to cram into a small space. It might work !

    blondie45  - I think the "extra" burning stinks (as if radiation isn't enough) and, while I agree with vtmom that positive thinking helps, I really can't blame you for hating the process. However, perhaps you should ask for an explanation as to WHY they want you to burn.; maybe there's something about the location of your cancer or some other logical reason that makes it important. For me, if I could hold onto a truly valid explanation as to why I'm in pain, then it might make it a bit more bearable. And please keep in mind that once radiation is over, things start getting better rapidly, unlike taxol which lingers in your system for a good while. I'm just 2 days out of it and my breast and chest already look and feel far better than last week.

    vtmom - Good for you and your positive attitude. I admit, I didn't know one could be both a workaholic and a treehugger !

  • Colette37
    Colette37 Member Posts: 387
    edited November 2009

    Blondie..they have been putting a bolus on me every other treatment.  I am thankful that it hasn't been too bad yet, but I am so afraid of starting to have a weaping wound that I am freaked out about the process.  It is the one thing that I have dragged my feet on with treatment and that I dislike most of all.

    vtmom...I understand where you are coming from, but I still can't get past that it may be hurting me in the long run too.  I do try to imagine my kids doing something to make me smile...like when my 9 year old had members from his football team sing happy birthday to him and how red and embarased that he was (it was sweet) or my 1 year old laughing, or laying on the inner tube at the Great Wolf Lodge in their wading pool just zoning out...but that is still with the medication that I am able to do it.  I am just freaked about what is happening.  It is almost to an irrational fear that I have.

    MTG...Good point about have some control over it.  This has only happened once yesterday, but if it happens again, I am going to speak with the techs.  They know that I had felt nausea when I first started the rads and I know that they would work with me on helping me deal with the others that I have came across.

  • sakura73
    sakura73 Member Posts: 467
    edited November 2009

    I had my last treatment today. I am a little red, but otherwise fine. And now I am totally and utterly done with cancer treatment, after 9 months of surgery and chemo and radiation. So to all those who are struggling with treatment I can only say - it WILL end, you WILL be healthy again!

  • Suzanne3131
    Suzanne3131 Member Posts: 3,953
    edited November 2009

    Sakura73 ~ Oh good for you!!  I am so happy for you!  

  • MTG
    MTG Member Posts: 646
    edited November 2009
    Sakura: HIP HIP HORRAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Smile
  • PauldingMom
    PauldingMom Member Posts: 927
    edited November 2009

    Sorry to hear about the smokers in your dressing room. Could be worse, one of my techs. likes to eat Jalepeno Fritos. The way she has to lean over me to find my tattoo just her breath is right in my face. I told her straight up the other day and brought in a bag of mints. We both had a good laugh!

    Yep my boob is one big red square with darker spots under my arm and breast. My nipple is starting to look like something out of National Geo. magazine. The Silverdine RX is helping but I still have pain under my pit. TMI???

    The Boob cake was a blast. Why is America so stuck on boobies being taboo. I've showed myself to so many people now it really doesn't seem like a big deal what so ever.  I'm thinking about baking boobie cupcakes for my last day. Might use Hershey kisses for the nipple. 

    Way to go Sakura!!

    Our Rad. machine is going to be down next week so only 3 treatments. Think it will give myself a chance to heal a bit and I'm thankful I won't miss so much work. Also doing a Sunday treatment to make up for Thanksgiving holiday. Another 4 days off!!!  

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