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  • micheleboots
    micheleboots Member Posts: 1,993
    edited November 2009

    Sido..you have friends here, so feel free to express your feelings.  We all have days like that.  It is such an emotional ride.  But you are not alone.

    Marie...No I hav ehad no probems, but I will watch what I do for sure.

    Michele

  • CAtharsis
    CAtharsis Member Posts: 52
    edited November 2009

    Sido : Wining. Isn't that precisely one of our cyber sisterhood's mission to support each other in their more difficult moments? Get it out! vent, cry, shout, it is part of the treatment (!). We go through so much that we are entirely allowed to have those feelings.

    On Friday, it might be difficult but believe in yourself and your courage. :)

  • unklezwifeonty
    unklezwifeonty Member Posts: 1,710
    edited November 2009

    Dear 1L,
    I hope the janitors keep your stall clean and germ free :-) 

    Dear MarieK,
    If you are cool with your meds, no reason to change. Does the 3 days of Decadron cause any weight gain? Maybe I will need it now that I have lost 10 lbs during AC!

    Dear Valerie, Michele and Catharsis,
    Good advice to let the emotions be and feel free to whine here.

    Dear Jo Jo and Sido,
    Listen to Valerie, Michele and Catharsis. Keep crying on hubby's shoulders.

    Dear Sido,
    I am A cup and wish I was B. I guess what I am saying is that for every woman who wants smaller boobs, there is another woman who wants bigger. God made us all different for a reason.

    Dear ALL,
    I am looking for information on how much nausea and vomiting you are having with Taxol, specifically on weekly Taxol. I have pretty nasty nausea for several days with AC that is barely controlled with Emend for 2-3 days and then with Kytril for 2-3 days. My insurance is giving me trouble about allowing Kytril more than xx days in a month and I am worried.....

    Love you all.

  • joanneasiata
    joanneasiata Member Posts: 719
    edited November 2009

    Hi all well Ive had my big cry for the day and i moved on to enjoy my mummy and daddy, they bought over more more meals for us and they wanted me to go away with them for 4 days to an farm like cottage , it sounded lovely but had to decline 2s company and 3s a crowd .And as much as i adore them 3 days is a bit to much  they are going on a bus with everyone  60 plus

    .                                 oh i love my mummy and daddy

    A question  how long after your chemo TX do you have to keep on washing your self after the loo

    its not fun anymore and i don't think i want to be doing it everyday for 5 mnths 

  • joanneasiata
    joanneasiata Member Posts: 719
    edited November 2009

    OH   AND  ALSO what date  and time is it over there becouse its in november her the 4 th and were still doing the oct posts

    Joanne

  • txstardust
    txstardust Member Posts: 599
    edited November 2009

    Joanne, the chemo leaves your body in about 48 hours according to my onc nurse, so it should be ok if you only rinse after for a couple of days.  

    Onty, hope the anti-nausea med issue gets resolved.  Damn insurance companies!

    All - I have lots of cheese to go with the "whine" - so let's whine away!  This is a safe place to do it.

    Peace... 

  • valeriekd
    valeriekd Member Posts: 287
    edited November 2009

    Dear Onty Have u tried taking compazine and/or Ativan for nausea along w/ those other meds? I switch them around or take ativan w/ them and they seem to work better. 

    Joanne I used water for 72 hours and wipes four about 4 days after and was good.

    And ladies if you have dogs like mine don't forget to put the toilet lid down!!! 

    Be well - Valerie 

  • Hopbird
    Hopbird Member Posts: 387
    edited November 2009

    Onty, the September girls might be the group to ask about comparing A/C to Taxol.  Some of them are ahead of you and might know...  As for me, since Abraxane is Taxol, just in a different delivery method, I can say I take one compazine before drugs and that has been it.  I filled a prescription for more and kept it here at home but haven't taken one.  I got close on round three, walked in and smelled McDonalds bag my teenager had eaten and it didn't sit well.  But that was the worst of it.  I have had indigestion and nothing tastes right, but the nausea has been minimal.  Of course, since Abraxane is different than the Taxol you will be getting that may/may not be relevant.

    Sido, I have to think that your second round will seem like a cakewalk compared to your first.  I'm sorry, but the accident was tragically timed and while it took your mind off of chemo, it was horrible itself.  Now you only have the chemo to deal with, you know you can do it!  And people should absolutely come here to whine.  Everyone has their times to be overwhelmed by it all.  By the way, I notice mine tend to come when I'm staring at another round, so maybe that's a lot of it.

  • BrendaSharon
    BrendaSharon Member Posts: 506
    edited November 2009

    Hi Hopbird & Joanne,

    You girls always pop in and visit me so I thought I'd come over here to CRY, if you don't mind!

    YES, I came over here to whine a bit. I want to be strong for the November girls and didn't want them know I was crying, I can't stop today!!!! I Woke up today feeling totally sorry for myself. I hate my BALD head and just tired of all of it already. Only one TX down, got sooo long to go. I don't have time to be tired or sick. I don't have the energy to do anything. I want my kids with me and can't have them. I want them to visit, but not allowed because I too scared of getting something. I don't know when it is safe and when it is not yet. I can't go a year without my kids in my life.

    Sorry Y'all just needed to vent. ((((THANKS)))) Brenda

  • txstardust
    txstardust Member Posts: 599
    edited November 2009

    Brenda, there's no reason that you can't see your kids!  Ask your doctor to explain when your most vulnerable time is (from what I understand, it's 7-14 days after treatment).  If you and your family are vigilant about handwashing and keeping things clean, like computer keyboards, doorknobs, faucet and toilet handles, phones, etc., you should be okay.  When I was in the hospital, the nurses said it was ok for my kids, ages 12 and 14, to come and visit me.  You need your family around you at this time, all the support you can get, don't deny yourself the opportunity to be with your kids.

    I hate being bald too.  I get cold far too easily, and it's still so glowingly white.  And the lack of energy is really getting to me also.  But, I have to remind myself that it's all about getting healthy so I'll have a long life ahead of me.  We can do it!!  

    BIG HUGS  (((((((Brenda Sharon))))))))) 

  • azdiva
    azdiva Member Posts: 201
    edited November 2009

    Good morning Ladies!

    I LOVE MY HENNA TATTOO!  I went out in public last night with my head completely bare!  I got many compliments and felt comfortable.  And when those hot flashes hit, well I just let my head sweat.  HAHA

    Speaking of which, does anyone know if black cohosh interferes with chemo?  If I could do something to get rid of the hot flashes, I want to know!!  I don't really want to take Effexor or another drug.  If I have to suffer through it, I will, but I hate it!  I feel bad for my mom and all of the other women out there who have gone through it.  And I really don't think all of the jokes about hot flashes are funny anymore!  I took my temperature during one of them . . . completely normal.  How is it possible to feel so hot but not have a fever?  This is a cruel joke that God has played on us.  I am positive no man could live through it (without whining incessantly and begging us women to take care of him)!

    Anyway, back to the head.  I AM GOING TO MEXICO TOMORROW!!  I am prepared to let it shine for all to see and will report back with pictures.  I cracked the henna off this morning so the design is kind of light.  But it will darken over the next few days and you will be able to see how neat it is.

    Be well Gals!  Just another day on this journey, and we are slowly, but surely, getting closer to our destination!

    Laura 

  • Hopbird
    Hopbird Member Posts: 387
    edited November 2009

    Brenda Sharon, HAVE YOUR FAMILY AROUND!!  Just make sure they understand the rules.  Think about it, many of us have children that age...we don't have the option to be away from them, they live here too.  If they aren't feeling well we keep our distance, otherwise they stay out of my bathroom, we all wash our hands, I wipe down counters and doorknobs more....and enlist them to help when I don't feel like it.  Teachers continue to teach, people continue to work, you can see your family.

    I don't know what to say about the long road ahead.......I'm feeling it too!  Somebody told me to make a list and check things off.........but the list looks so big compared to what is done, that sometimes I get overwhelmed.  Still, each check does feel good. I remember when my husband said, well, one treatment down, 19 to go.  We just laughed.  Now we're at 7 down, 13 to go.  (We're counting my weekly Herceptins during chemo in there.)  13 still seems like a lot. 

    Come by any time...........HUGS for you!

  • unklezwifeonty
    unklezwifeonty Member Posts: 1,710
    edited November 2009
    Dear Jo Jo,

    If you drink 5-6 large glasses of water starting day before chemo
    and for 2-3 more days after, that should help clean your system of
    the drugs and after that you may not need to wash the bottom.

    I think we are 12-13 hours behind you. It is November here also.
    Now that we have formed our own little sisterhood, I will
    keep posting here mostly. I also post on September threads because
    I started chemo on September 28th. Of course we can post on
    November or December or any other groups too.

    Dear TXStarDust,

    I don't blame the insurance company. They are doing the right
    thing by asking why it is needed. If I need it, I will have the
    doctor fight it out or pay for it myself. If they routinely allow
    it, the insurance premiums will keep going up. It is also comforting
    to hear that the weekly Taxol does not cause as much nausea.

    Dear Valerie,

    Thanks. I will ask the doctor to prescribe Ativan if needed.

    Dear HopBird,

    Yes I asked the September gals too. I think late last night I
    just got panicky!

    Dear Brenda,

    Which chemo are you getting? Depending upon that, there are
    certain times you will be feeling down but you WILL get through it
    stronger.

    As others have posted, there are certain days when your immunity
    is lower and there is extra need to be careful about having kids
    washing hands etc (in general too, right!). I have kids around all
    the time. Last week both of my kids had fever and congestion and
    Pediatrician gave them antibiotics. The only thing I did different
    was have the hubby sleep with the 3 year old for 2 days (he normally
    sleeps in our bed, bad habut I know!).

    Dear Laura,

    Good to hear of your Henna tatto and that you got compliments on
    your bald head. My hubby thinks I look sexy bald. I hate it when
    he says he does not mind me bald for the rest of my life. Please
    have fun in Mexico. Make sure to drink bottled water.

    Love,

  • micheleboots
    micheleboots Member Posts: 1,993
    edited November 2009

    Azdiva,  we want to see pictures of your nre TAT...Have fun in Mexico. Be careful.

    Michele

  • micheleboots
    micheleboots Member Posts: 1,993
    edited November 2009

    OOPS I nemt to say NEW TAT.

  • micheleboots
    micheleboots Member Posts: 1,993
    edited November 2009

    OOOPPPSS I ment to say ment....OMG I am having trouble typing..

  • MaryNY
    MaryNY Member Posts: 1,584
    edited November 2009

    I'm dying to see Laura's tatoo as well.

    Ladies, a question on irritation at the port site ... I had a port inserted on Monday of last week, then had first treatment on Wednesday. I still have steri-strips on the two incision sites (port and neck area). Last week the nurse told me that I wasn't to remove the steri-strips myself as I might open the incisions. But the port area was becoming itchy so I teased the bottom ends of the steri-strips off and trimmed them back. The skin area over the port is red and bumpy and itchy. Not too bad and certainly something I could live with but I would like it to heal before I have my next treatment a week from now so accessing the port is not as painful as last time.

    Is there something I could rub on to promote healing/reduce irritation? I don't know if the irritation is from the steri-strips or from the needle insertion last week.

  • clariceak
    clariceak Member Posts: 752
    edited November 2009

    Hello everyone

    I was in Seattle for my first treatment and am so happy to be home.  In case anyone else is in Seattle, I just wanted to share a resource for complimentary buzz cuts.  I was the first patient at Gary Manual salon on 2nd avenue.  They have started a new program which was inspired by a bc patient on their staff.  I decided to have my hair cut in Seattle so I could return home with a new do.  They were so wonderful and supportive through the whole process.  I thought it would be traumatic but they guided me through it, although it did help to remove my glasses so the whole cut was a blurry vision.

    My wbc counts were so low that my onc wanted to reduce my treatment.  She's worried because she can't monitor me as well from a distance.  We did manage a compromise so we'll stick with the original dose for the second treatment and see what happens.  I never imagined be so worried at the possiblity of not receiving the strongest chemo available.

    I scored a h1n1 shot yesterday so that's one worry that has diminished.  Wishing everyone a good week.

    Mary Ny - I had irritation/itchness with my port and I really think it was due to the bandages. I'm sensitive to chemicals.  It went away after 10 days,so hopefully yours well too.

  • Sido
    Sido Member Posts: 234
    edited November 2009

    Hello Lovelies,

    Today is a new day and after seeing my cancer counselor and reading all your kind words, I am feeling much better.  In fact, I have scheduled a spa pedicure this afternoon for my new black polish to hopefully prevent losing my nails.  The evidence is mostly anecdotal, but what the hell, why not?  Because me knee is still messed up from the accident I was able to convince DH that I had to get a professional pedicure and that because of my WBC issues, I had to go to a day spa that definitely steralized the soaks and tools, instead of a cheap strip mall "chop shop."   Ah me...the burdens of chemo.....Cool

    I did some damage to my scalp yesterday, though.  When DH came home from work, I had been in the bathroom crying with a sticky-tape lint roller basically tearing the stubble of hair I had left off of my head.  The more hair on the tape, the better I felt, but now my scalp is pretty raw.  Does anyone know who is good for treating our bald pates?  Something soothing but not goopy (like aloe gel)?

    Be well and fell the hugs coming to you all from Peoria,

    Sido

  • BrendaSharon
    BrendaSharon Member Posts: 506
    edited November 2009

    txstardust, hopbird, unklezwifeonty

    Thanks for the encouraging words from each of you girls this morning!

    I believe it started my day off right!! I got more encouraging news as the day went on, so I will share! I've shared this with all the November girls as well. Us warriors need all we can getCool

    Girls, as you know, I started out my day sort of BLUE and just in general depressed!!!

    BUT, as the day went on, besides all the moral support I get from each one of you, I got more exciting news!!!! I got a call today from my "Hip-Hat-Hair" order that I placed last Wednesday, I had my hair cut off right before chemo. Anyways, they said it will be shipped tomorrow, so I'll have my hair back to wear under whatever hat or scarf I choose> I'm so excited. When I get my ole hair back I just know I will cry of joy!!~~~~~~

    For all of us!!!!   Kiss  I would have never believed it true, but I went to this per site advice of another sister. The site was  (francelux.com)  I picked out a scarf/wrap at the cost of $72.00. I sent an email to Ms Laurie, and low and behold I received a confirmation email from the Lady herself , Ms. Laurie Erickson and she said she was pleased to met me and would be sure to send the piece I had picked out. She is just super!!!!!  She requested I pass the information along to all my other sisters, so that is what I am doing. these scarfs and wraps are made of luxurious silk. Imagine how good this will feel on our heads!!!!   This is the email address below that i used to request the scarf from Ms. Erickson 

    goodwishes@franceluxe.com

    Also, for all of us, I had sent a request to HeavenlyHats.com and they confirmed that my order was received and I should receive it sometime very soon. They said they where behind as they had 750 orders just for this month alone. It's just unbelievable how many this -C- is affecting.

    All these hats!!!! Too exciting, as I know I still have a long way to go~~~~~The few I've already purchased, I'm already tiring of them. Day in and Day out!! So Ya-Whooooo!!!!~~~~~

     (((((HUGS))))) Brenda

  • MarieK
    MarieK Member Posts: 911
    edited November 2009

    OMG Sido you are too funny!  I never would have thought to use the lint roller to get out the stubble! 

    I don't have any clue what to use on your head except for maybe a sensitive skin moisturizer.  I have one from St- Ives that I use as well as still shampooing and conditioning my scalp in the shower.

    I'm having trouble with ingrown hairs on my balding head!!!  I think it's from my kids rubbing me the wrong way or maybe the wigs?  My monofilament hand tied top wig (that I wear the most) has a silicone plate on the inside and I notice that most of the ingrown hairs are in that area.

    Anyhow today I am wearing my Hip Hats with Hair Underhair wig with the cool max top to see if letting my scalp "breathe" for a bit will help.

    This underhair is very comfy but I'm not used to wearing hats and almost forgot that I had this cloth top wig on and nearly took my hat off in the Starbucks!  Now that would have been way too funny!!!  I'm looking very Klingon (Star Trek reference) today.

    Someone told me I look like Demi Moore - this from a stranger who doesn't know I'm going through chemo.

    I shamelessly lap up all the hair and skin compliments I can get!!!

    Onty - the Decadron is not causing me to gain weight.  The eating everything in sight is....it doesn't help that friends and neighbours are dropping off food all the time!

    Hugs to all!

    Marie

  • BrendaSharon
    BrendaSharon Member Posts: 506
    edited November 2009

    Laughing SIDO  Kiss&Kiss  MARIE Smile

    Extra Smiles to both of you today!!!! You got me ROFLMAO~~~~~~~

    Sido,I just kept picturing the lint roller, although bless your heart, how long did you hang in the bathroom waiting on DH to come in. I know it actually probably hurt. Toooooo Funny!

    Marie,With the hip-hair for hats, the Starbucks group who might Loose their JAVA!! (Ha-Ha)That is what I'm talking about, too too funny!!!! I'm waiting on my hip-hair now, I'm using my own so I had to first wait to cut it first, which was chemo TX#1. I just hope I don't get so comfy as you say and I take my hat off in public. I'm kinda used to wearing caps and hats already and don't think I'll screw up, but here lately the mind isn't always all there or here, kinda here and there!

    Thanks for the laughs!!!  Really I was rolling on the floor laughing my a@@ off!!!

  • valeriekd
    valeriekd Member Posts: 287
    edited November 2009
    Hi Mary I had the port also and mine was much better after the steristrips were gone -I did tease them off in a warm shower when they looked like more of a problem than a help. When they accessed the port yesterday I Put Lidocaine w/ a saran wrap piece over it for 1.5 hrs pre-access and I felt absolutely nothing. Perfecto! Hope this helps-valerie
  • MaryNY
    MaryNY Member Posts: 1,584
    edited November 2009

    Valerie: I know I'll feel much better when the steri-strips are gone. They are still a bit stubborn and don't want to slide off on their own.

    I intend using the lidocaine cream prior to my next treatment. Is the saran wrap so it won't come off on your clothing?

  • joanneasiata
    joanneasiata Member Posts: 719
    edited November 2009

    Hi sweeter things

     Thanks for the tips ill just wash the first 48 hre then after that ill use wipes for a week .

     hey im so stupid ( ill blame chemo ha ha ) i thought that we started using the november thread  cause were in november now , deeeeer  , and i was thinking that u guys were still in oct were in nov  thats why i asked how far r u guys are behind us in time .Oh dearey me !!!!

    BRENDA

    Isnt it nice to have a good fun day ,oh the things we take for granted ! you will have more of these days as time goes on and were used to our new NOT PERMENANT rutines  and yes you have to share them with us as well as your bad days to  cause when i hear other women  having their bad bays i know that its normal to be so out of wack with what is going on soo for everyones peace of mind keep sharing with us please

    MARIE

    Hello the scalp thing tye keeping it mosturised and when youg in the shower get a chemicl free soap like a good goats milk soap and get a face washer or a small cloth and gently give it a light rub ,our scalps have NEVER been exposed so wee have to be very gentle on them keeping them moistened and try to cover your scalp as much as posible untill the skin hardend up a bit and DEFINATLY NO STICKY TAPE ROLLERS on them thats sooo funny SIDO

    LOVE YOU ALL

    JOANNE

  • MeredithK02
    MeredithK02 Member Posts: 86
    edited November 2009

    I hate to come here just to whine, but my port site is infected!  It started hurting yesterday, then more this morning.  I called the oncologist's office and went in, and the doctor said, and I quote,"Yikes!"  She said that when it gets infected like that, it's usually a staph infection.  So now I've got antibiotics.  Ugh.

    Brenda, thanks for the tip about the scarf--they've got some gorgeous ones!  (franceluxe.com).  I just e-mailed.

  • unklezwifeonty
    unklezwifeonty Member Posts: 1,710
    edited November 2009

    Dear Mary,

    The wrap makes the cream more effective by keeping it where it belongs, not letting it evaporate or rub off on your clothes and by retaining body heat (the last one made me roll my eyes!)

  • Scoobydoo
    Scoobydoo Member Posts: 499
    edited November 2009

    Hi ladies.

    Brenda so glad you are feeling better!  This is the place to come when you are feeling down and just want to whine.  We have to have an outlet for that sort of thing or we will go crazy.  That is so cool that you can use your own hair.  Mine was only shoulder length and they told me I couldnt use it.

    Meredith - sorry to hear about the infection.  At least they caught it in time and it didnt progress. 

    Onty- I am glad you are on both threads as I really appreciate your encouragement.  I am also on both threads and will remain while I go through chemo and afterwards to cheer others on.

    Sido- Wow you are so active.  Must be youth. Hmmm lint roller.  Hadnt thought of that one.

    Marie - when I start feeling better I start eating.  Ugh.  No weight gain or loss yet.  However, I am already overweight so that is not a good thing.

    Well thank you all for your well wishes.  I am feeling better today.  I actually worked from home.  Still tired...whats new, but the acid reflux has gotten a little better.  Not as sicky feeling either.  Tomorrow will probably be a much better day.  We all have a lot of ups and downs we will go through on this chemo journey, but in the end we will survive.  We can do it.  Just take one TX at a time, one day at a time.  This is the hardes thing I have ever had to go through in my entire life.  I know I will make it and so will all of you.

  • lainieo
    lainieo Member Posts: 53
    edited November 2009

    Hi,

    I was just going to post about the Francelux site as well.  Glad you ladies found it. What  a great thing to do!  Actually did not have a great day It is day #7 of my first round of TAC.  Did not make it to work today  due to bad stomach cramps. Not sure why, but my intestinal track is way off. If feels like I have to go and cramps up and then I only go a little bit. It happened all day. The first few days after chemo was a lot easier.  I was up most of the night.  I also got my swine flu shot today. Hope that is ok. I now have a dry cough. Thank goodness my principal at school is so supportive and thank goodness for subs. I really do want to work. I miss the kids a lot. It helps to take your mind off of all of this. Well a good evening to all.

  • txstardust
    txstardust Member Posts: 599
    edited November 2009

    Marie, the lady who shaved my head for me at the wig shop suggested that I use a mild facial scrub on my scalp (I use St. Ives), I guess this keeps any ingrown hairs from popping up and she said it keeps the follicles clear.  She also said you can use essential oils as long as they are diluted.

    Meredith, you poor thing!  I hope the antibiotics do the trick - it's no fun being even MORE sick.

    Scooby, I agree that this is a difficult journey.  I'm just glad that we have each other to help us along.

    Lainieo, hope you get to feeling better soon.

    Joanne, of COURSE you can blame chemo for anything - might as well get something out of it!

    mary, I know how frustrating it is waiting for those steri-strips to fall off.  I was very impatient and pulled them off when I saw that the scabs were forming.  I couldn't wait to rip them off!  Oh - I finished TX #2 today!

    Everyone, I hope you're feeling well as can be.  I get my first Neulasta shot tomorrow - gotta go get some Claritin!

    Peace,

    Shelby 

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