please stop minimizing my diagnosis
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I had DCIS too, just had surgery 2 weeks ago and I guess I am doing ok
I will have reconstructive surgery in Dec with a DIEP flap
Mine was stage 0, and thank God, I dont need chemo or radiation.
Nor, do I need any drugs in my future.
So yes DCIS is CANCER
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I agree. While I know the docs want you to be positive for treatment and healing sake everytime I cried in front of them I felt guilty. I felt like I shouldn't be crying because other people have it much worse. I am thankful that I am cured. But darn it, I didn't want to be a "breast cancer patient".
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yeah why do we have to feel guilty -it's not like we DON'T know it could be worse, but surgery is not a normal thing and is QUITE scary, the thought that our pathology could come back as anything other than "JUST DCIS"- what the hell ?
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and you are right, I didn't wa,t to be a breast cancer patient either!
bilat mx pathology back tonight
dcis, stage 0, high grade, 6mm, NODE NEG; RT 0/4, LEFT 0/3,CLEAN MARGINS!
A GIFT FROM GOD, I HAVE MY LIFE BACK!
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Yay Melissa, so glad that you had clear margins and no node involvement!!
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My sister-in-law told me she was so happy for me that I had DCIS! Some how I do not feel lucky She does have breast cancer; I I was her main support person when she went through everything and yes She had chemo...I do not need chemo her's is diagnosised as in-vassive and mine is not BUT I still feel that mine needs ..I do not know how to say it But lucky and happy are not what I am feeling.
My closest friends are wonderful but I sometimes wonder what they are thinking??? If they think like my sister-in-law and do not say it out loud
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well I think that it is all perspective---but we are not lucky! I guess we are lucky if we don't need chemo- but lucky to have any CA? no- we are lucky if it is not invasive, but lucky to lose our breast/breasts? no- no luck there
I AGREE WITH YOU LUCK IS NOT WHAT I FELT OR FEEL, EXTREME EMOTIONAL UPHEAVAL, STRESS BEYOND COMPARE, CHOICES THAT WERE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MEDIEVAL AND BIZZARRE, FEAR OF SURGERY, CHEMO, RECONSTRUCTION, CHANGE IN DX AFTER PATH REPORT ..........NO LOTTERY WINNERS IN THAT PARAGRAPH!
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Hi One badboob I totally agree with what you are saying. I am knew to this BC crap and yes it seems to be a very elite club and you must have a cercent pedigree to be part of it. I am kinda of sick and tired allready of hearing oh girl you got it good at least you aint stage 4 and on and on and on about the tx and the dx. Who cares we all have breast cancer just different levels but that doesn't give somebody the right to make lite of the next young womans diagnosis and her journey through this dark disease. I say to my felllow girls just begining there journey stay strong and believe in yourself and surround yourself with the positive beautiful people
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Cheryl I am with you completely~ if they want to share in my luck I will donate my diseased breast to them as an implant so they can feel lucky too!
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IMO BC became such a commercialized illness that, when I mention was DX with it. This is the reaction I get <Oh most women have that> or <Its a popular DX now days> And the one makes me really mad when they say <Everything is behind you now, don't even think about it>
I really don't talk about it that much except 4 months check up with oncologist still makes me very anxious of course I'm not suppose to feel anything Have been told that I'm thinking too much.
Those are well meaning people saying all these garbage.
Finally I said " When I go to my onc I'm not there for my cholesterol he actually drawing blood to see if cancer is back. Don't dismiss my fears. Sometimes I think all these people that they think everything is behind me, what would they do if God forbid if they were in my shoes.
Thanks Ladies I think I am nervous because next week I see my onc.
I really appreciate anyone who read my post.
Best Wishes
Sheila
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Wow, Anne, it is just amazing what some people will say..... if I had only known about imaging a light radiating down on my breast I wouldn't have needed the lumpectomy or be going through radiation treatments right now
- sigh, just have to try to ignore people like that. I don't know much about alh, but it does sound kind of similar to DCIS in that it may or may not turn into something invasive in the future. I would recommend googling some info and maybe getting a second opinion before deciding what to do. This is a great site to get info and hopefully you will get a response from others that have more info for you.
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Anne, I am not familiar with your diagnosis. Your company is welcomed. I hear you when you say people say so many different things when you share your diagnosis. Many people are stunned unless they understand the disease or diagnosis. One friend told me she wanted to do the BC walk but had no one to do it for...now she could do it for me. It felt very awkward because I did not want to be the reason nor did I want to have cancer. Another person would not give me any space or let me call when I was ready to call. It was stress I didn't need.
Be kind to yourself and keep asking questions until you feel more educated on your diagnosis. I wanted to write "feel more comfortable" but darn it you probably would rather have no concerns and no condition to be worried about. Best of luck to you!! We are there for you girlfriend!
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I am so glad that my BS and PS didn't minimize my BC. My original BS wanted to do a lumpetectomy and radiation. I got gene tested and sought other opinions, switched surgeons and had a BMX. I just really didn't want to deal with breast screenings and worrying the rest of my life.
Great info on the laws. That should be posted somewhere. maybe it is???
I got a CA125 test today. Lucky me - I get to check my ovaries, too! That goes with the fun of having the BRCA1 mutation! I had an U/S on my ovaries last month. They looked okay. Hopefully, nothing turns up. I might have to get my ovaries taken out, too someday.
So - yes DCIS is cancer - it's real and people should never minimize it!
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Anne how dare they! But they will continue- I am 10 days out from a BLM due to DCIS- ca in the right with a 30-45% recurrence rate in the left - I like KITTYCAT was not going to worry the entire rest of my days, return for biopsies, play with insurance companies etc. YOU ARE ENTITLED to GOOD and accurate information and for support of YOUR decisions and feelings! They are YOUR body parts, geezs these folks actually piss me off that act as if we are "thinking too much" worried over nothing" "not as bad off as others" Piss on them,
OK thanks for the rant! You guys are the greatest to listen and be there for me and I pray for each of you every morning and every night "relieve us of pain and suffering and lead us to REALLY SMART AND CARING DOCTORS". I was really lucky in that respect and have had great BS & med onc. ,AND HUSBAND!!!
Anne - goggle to NCBC and look in your area for a Comprehensive Breast Center- if you have one in your area they will have a Breast Ca Nurse Navigator who can and will give you GREAT, RELIABLE information and support. Good luck and don't let the fools slow you down, just keep questioning and follow your heart and get answers to every question even if you have to change doctors!
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No matter what stage our breast cancer is; we all heard the same four words: "You have breast cancer". Enough said.
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VIKINIC boy that says it all you are so right!!!
Anne I forgot to tell you that you can get a second opinion on your pathology slides by requesting that your physician send a request that you sign to the lab and ask for a Breast Pathologist to do the second reading - it is up to the first lab to send your slides and atleast you would be reassured of the reading.
Good night ladies
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Barbiegirl~and to all
I just found this thread & want to say I agree with your orig. post. I was dx'd w/ DCIS in July and had a unilat. MX Aug. My MX surgeon & my PS never have minimized my diagnosis but my oncologist did!!! I was given only Tamoxifin as a follow up treatment...no chemo/rads... I met this oncologist once (once was enough) after my MX. He said what I had was really "nothing"...not really enough to call it cancer. Can you believe that!!!! All I could think of, as I stared at him in disbelief that he was even saying this to me, is, "How could you say this to me?!!"..."How dare you say that what I went through was nothing!" Yes, it was Stage 0 but I still had to have a MX and still had to go through the emotional "meltdowns" dealing with this whole journey!!! I still have more surgeries to come! It's a shame that there are people who downplay our condition just because we did not go through what other women do when they are diagnosed with more involved cancer. CANCER is CANCER!
Okay...I feel better knowing that there are others who think like me...thanks!!!!
NAE
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Nedeza, wow! I think he may be in the wrong business at least on the wrong side of a bedside manner. I am sorry he reacted like that to a paying patient, much less someone who endured giving up a part of herself. He should be ashamed of himself!
No one knows how it feels to hear the diagnosis or the butterflies in one's stomach driving anywhere near the surgeon's office pre-surgery or the pain one felt when the wound hurt or the pain of the loved ones who are sad for you. I know the theory the glass is half full/empty but gosh, none of us wanted to grow up and be a breast cancer patient! Carry on gals! We are tough but need one another for support.
Love ya all!
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Bravo for this great thread!
When I was diagnosed with DCIS in March 2008 my internist/pathologist broke the bad news in a way that STILL irritates the s**t out of me almost two years later. She said, and I quote, "You have breast cancer....DCIS...Ductal Carcinoma in Situ...but it's good...it's really good!" At the time I was pretty well shell-shocked from the words "breast cancer" themselves, so it was hard for me to actually connect the dots together and compute that it was ostensibly a good diagnosis. I recall feeling as if I had some kind of mental disconnect going on because I couldn't wrap my brain around what she said at all. (How could breast cancer be good, I wondered...it was a diagnostic oxymoron as far as I was concerned.) All I could think of were the words "breast cancer, breast cancer, breast cancer...", until I woke up from my momentary fog (a fog that felt like it was hours long when, in fact, it was probably about 5 minutes) and realized what she had said. I was furious. "WTF?", I thought to myself, "Breast cancer is good?! WTF kind of comment is that?" I thought she was an insensitive, self-centered b*tch and wanted to knock her clear across the room. How can you say something like that without realizing how insensitive and mean it comes across? I mean, honestly.
I remember looking up at her while she spoke ..uhhh babbled...onwardly, endlessly and relentlessly about my diagnosis, as if she were a robot gone out of control. She yammered on in medical jargon I was too overwhelmed to digest at the time, even though, as all of you know, I would come to know it well: MRIs and CATs scans, more diagnostic tests and procedures, oncologists and hematologists (especially her buddy she wanted me to see), my prognosis, negative and positive receptors, and treatment options..blah blah..blah...meanwhile, I was sitting there seething with rage, the vulcano in my head about to explode. In my best New York "attitude" self, I raised my right hand up and said, 'Whoa, whoa, whoa - slow down for a minute, please, okay?..So let me ask you something, Okay....Did you just tell me that I have breast cancer?" She replied, "Why, yes, yes, I did". I turned to her and hissed, "Then tell me JUST HOW it is that breast cancer can be good because I DON'T THINK SO!" She looked stunned for a moment and then proceeded to explain what it meant. When I started to cry after realizing what I was up against, she told me, "No tears! No tears! It's all good! Positive energy and light!!" I was too tired to strangle her when she made that imbecilic remark, as if expecting me to jump for joy because I was diagnosed with cancer. This was not the f**king prom and I was not named Prom Queen. I had cancer and this was MY life, not hers.
Doctors need to understand that a cancer diagnosis - any kind of diagnosis at any stage - is a life changing event that should not be minimized for ANY ONE going through the process. Though the treatment modalities for those with advanced cancer are obviously more difficult than what someone with DCIS might go through, cancer is cancer period. DCIS is cancer and it still requires treatment of some kind, be it a lumpectomy, radiation treatment, Tamoxifen or Arimedex, a hysterectomy and salpingo-oophrectomy as in my case, and the treatment modalities are an assault on a person's body, spirit and mind.
DCIS Cancer has changed my life and my spirit in ways that I can't even articulate with any semblance of intelligence half the time. I AM a different person now and I think differently than I did before. My perceptions about my life - where I have been, where I am now and where I am going - touched me deeply and I know, without a shadow of a doubt, that I won't be the same person I was before.
Here's to all of you..a toast to my sisters, the only ones who understand me.
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Hi Melissa1518,
That made me laugh thanks for turning my frown upsidedown. I think that they love to be marters but don't think that they wil go that far.
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Hi Sweetpea,
You hang in there and ''fight like a girl" At the end of the day people that maked comments likfe that just don't matter.
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Sweetpea~
I ditto that post! I do remember somewhere in that "fog" hearing it is 100% treatable but never did I imagine "Mastectomy" being in the vocabulary! Yes...it was a choice I made after researching DCIS. My MX surgeon said after the MX that she was glad that "we" made this decision...I am too!
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Hello All,
I have posted this on a new thread as well as here in hopes of getting some information. I am hoping to get a few answers to some questions. I recently found some abnormalities in my left breast that I had a b9 incisional biopsy on several years ago.I am 47 years old and have had two b9 lumpectomies over the course of 14 years one in either breast. 14 years ago the lumpectomy pathology report (which I was just able to retrieve from the surgeon) read "breast showing focal moderate intraductal epithelial hyperplasia" - which from everything I've read is a good thing and "minute focus of atypical ductal hyperplasia involving one duct and multiple ductal cysts". - which from what I read now could possibly be not so good...also stated few ducts should moderate intraductal hyperplasia and one duct shows atypical hyperplasia. I have dense breasts and see a breast surgeon annually for mammo. It seems every year they do a US after the mammo and last year talk of a MRI was mentioned. I have just recently received a copy of this pathology report...the breast surgeon I see has never seen this report but will this month... and since I had felt the same abnormalities as many years ago have become extremely anxious after reading this. I have my annual dx mammo on 11/13 and will see the breast surgeon the same day as I do every year. Even back when I had the lump removed I was told by the general surgeon that this would make me high risk and to watch closely. I know a lot of progress has been made in diagnosing and treating ADH but I have also read that ADH and DCIS are very similar and can be mistakenly diagnosed. Family history is not great...my dad's twin sister and my maternal great grandmother only. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Not totally stressed out yet but sure wish the 13th would get here soon.
I hope I am not being intrusive on your site but would sure appreciate your input. Thanks for your help!
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You're doing the right thing by being vigilant with your monitoring--praying everything remains stable as it has been for the past 14 years. (I am high risk from the combination of LCIS and family history of bc (mom had ILC); I do high risk monitoring, took tamoxifen for 5 years and now take evista). Feel free to PM me if you'd like to chat.
Anne
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awb...thanks so much for the reply...I know 14 years seems like a long time ago but after reading everything I have read about DCIS and how slow growing it is and how some doctors don't even think it is cancer...just pre-cancer, especially back when. Well, lets just say I'm glad I finally have the pathology report to show to the new breast surgeon since I am experiencing the same recurrent feeling I had prior to my first biopsy. Praying everything still remains stable and if not praying it will be a cut and dry dx. I don't like what ifs. I will send you a pm once I get my thoughts together.
thanks again and I pray all stays well with you.
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Yeah Cheryl they don't have THAT much nerve,only enough nerve to instilt a woman who has just heard the 4 dreaded words "you have breast cancer". They are A..H***s and need a size 12 up their A**. Oh and By the way if they don't want the diseased breast maybe we can cook up something else to share with them- they could have a mastectomy just for the he__ of it- hey why not I had two for DCIS- let us share our "good Luck" and Sweetpea OH how eloquent are you??? I am impressed! I just wish I had said 1/2 that to the people who act like we are "The lucky ones" in the world of Cancer , yes we do not pay the piper as with some of our more unfortunate sisters- and I pay the highest respect and pray hardest for those with "more" luck than those of us with DCIS. and Ned I am with you too. I read many other topics and see too many sisters with recurrence to rest easy- so OFF they went!- no regrets and I will buy falsies. who knows what size I will be when I grow up???
younggrandma and awb-pray , pray, pray, it worked for me and I will pray for you too! Be vigilant is right- don't look away for a second.Also you may have a Brest Cancer Nurse Navigator if you have a comprehensive breast center in your area and they are amazing--google ncbc.org to see if you have one in your area.
You ladies have a great LUCKY day and you are right , the people who talk to us in that manner don't even count!
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I read an article like this and it makes my blood boil.
http://www.breastcancer.org/symptoms/testing/new_research/20091021b.jsp
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Melissa 1518,
Thanks for the input. I am a woman of prayer as most on here are from what I have read. The Breast Center I am going to does have a Breast Cancer Nurse Navigator, however, I have never heard of them before...maybe because the dx was made so long ago when they thought it was "pre-cancerous". I guess I need to wait to see my BS on the 13th and ask a few questions. My biggest concern is that when that initial lumpectomy/biopsy was done they did not think ADH was that big of a deal and now I see it is a huge deal and if it truly was DCIS it has been sitting there growing for all this time. In looking in the mirror this morning I saw where the blood vessels in that breast were larger and more visible and even that concerned me. I think I will probably ask for an MRI...it is a given they will do the mammo and then as always do an US which they say the US shows nothing. I also picked up a copy of the actual films from the last mammo I had (due to the fact that I had it at a different place) and being the nosey person I am lol held them up to the window to take a look. I saw where they had marked spots on the mammo but the report itself said everything was fine. Just makes you wonder. My BS is awesome so I'm sure she will be onboard with doing the testing. I just wish the 13th would get here soon. I really am not a hypocondriact...just feel like one from time to time.
Thanks again for all your input...you guys are the only ones that seem to understand the worry.
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Oh you ladies- I love ya!
Younggrandma- call the Nurse navagitor and make her earn her keep starting with YOU! You don't have to wait until the 13th and she can give you tons of information. You are the reason she has a job so use her. This comes from a nurse and believe me we love to do our jobs- most of us have A VERY ANAL GENE , so let her go to work on your information. What me to call her? I will , there is just simply no reason to wait.
I called the lab that was preforming my pathology and told them I was "Dr so-in-so's nurse and Dr. (GOD) needed the results no later than Oct 7th" , so believe me I will call her if you want me to.
Fight for your answers- just like we girls have for everthing we get!
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melissa1518,
Thank you so much for you inspiration and nudge ahead
. I think I may just call the nurse navigator this afternoon. I know the 13th is not that far away but...the sitting and not knowing when the symptoms have returned again is the pits. It never hurts to me armed when heading to the doctor.
Thanks again...I'll keep reading. Stay well.
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I think the waiting was the WORSE- other than hearing that I had cancer- but then the wait, GOD save me I prayed like a crazy woman to have the patience not to do something CRAZY as I waited!
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