DIM

My Osteopath has me on 450 of DIM per day. I also have I3C but she said I can stop that once this bottle finishes. My "good estrogen" was really high in the Metamatrix 2:16 test (the range was 2-10 and I was an 11!) so I know something is working!!! 

I cannot believe your doggies are named Luna and Spring, Maddy!  

You girls sure seem to know your tests!!! I am having my hormone levels check next week. What else should I ask her to check. She is a pa. She is very into biodenticals but not into what to check for us bc girls. I think she would do what I ask her so your input would be great!!!!! Thanks.

Patty

Hi Maddy!

I do IV C infusions. I am doing 80 grams once per week at this point. How long have you been doing them? I do them in Suffern, NY, which is about an hour away from you. Is there a place up by you in Kingston that you go to?

Oh my! Deni! I have been getting my drips at Schachter's for about 18 months now (with some breaks) and we don't know each other? How is that possible? We have never been there on the same day? At the moment I go on Thursdays, and will be there tomorrow at 11:30; how about you?

Hugggs! Maddy

On the Metamatrix test, there are different "number" ranges for Pre and post menopausal. (I am now Post, thanks to friggin chemo!). Also, as Fairy and I found out, it is different if you do a blood, vs. urine test too. I think the important thing is the ratio. Metamartix wants you to be above 2.0. I was 1.9 so I have some work to do...

Cleo - Yep, good luck with that. This will get him/her even better: Ask for your saliva to be tested!! When I asked my gyno what he thought of the biodenticals, he said they are a pain. He had no clue how to test for them. Go figure!!!

Patty

Wow! Thanks Fairy

Oh it would be so hard not to peek at the nips.

It is hard trust me!!!

 I had the FSH and LH but my naturopath said those levels vary a lot during the month and she didn't pay too much attention as she did to the other stuff.

L
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knowing my luck, if I gently lift the bandages........I will rip something off!! I just know it! I am going to have to be patient! sigh...........

On the I3C vs DIM point - my naturopath says she prefers people to take I3C. I take it in a supplement that also has rosemary leaf in it. I have read lots of articles saying one or the other is better. They are always biased in favour of the product the author is marketing!

DIM-

Are those of you who are using dim doing well? Anybody in Eastern PA , New Jersey , MD< DEL or NY area seeing an onco who recommends this?

ITs been along time- can someone update me on this versus tamo or are you doing both.

thanks again

Chocolate

Hi Fairy49:



How long have you been on D.I.M. and have you had good results? And your oncologist approved? Had he heard about it or did he research or read your material.

I've had a bi-lateral masectomy in March and I've had a total hysterectomy. I was just put on Arimadex and after 3 pills my stomach was upset, nauscious, and feeling ill. I found info. on D.I.M. Also, some good info. from a Dr. Michael Zeligs. His Bio-Resource product is patented and the Herbarium here in town sells that product. I brought my research material to my oncologist and he breezed through it. But he actually took some notes and plans to do some research on it. I am thinking that he can't actually recommend this, as a doctor. But I'm thinking he could say "he can't stop me", either. I am hoping that he will monitor me.

I think metabolizing is the answer,not lowering estrogen. I am post menopausal and have my own hot flashes. Don't need more. Also, lowering even more causes bone loss, osteoporosis, joint pains, etc. That's not good. My oncologist questions the "metabolizing" word. That maybe D.I.M. could raise estrogen, then that wouldn't be good. But I did get some more information that D.I.M. doesn't raise or lower estrogen.



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Thanks.



Kathleen

Ladies

If you are taking DIM pls beware if you have a goiter or any thyroid issues.  This amt of cruciferous  vegatables  are "goiterous" meaning they make goiters grow.

Pls dont take my word for it  - do you own exploring, googling and ask your endo dr. if you do see one.

Good luck to all!

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just thought I would tell you of my experience. I have been taking DIM for 5 years works beautifully have had my estrogen tested before and 3 months after went from est dominate to having more of the good estrogen if that makes sense . My oncologist natropath and natural dr both think it is a fantastic product and it works well with Tamaxifern . I feel fantastic hardly any side effects even though I have now gone thru menopause . I go off tamoxifern next March as it will be 5 years and I intend to stay on DIm for the rest of my life. It is called Indoplex in aust I alternated 45mg one day and 125mg the next. Hope this helps someone

Hi, lorreymom. Is your path report back? Will you be having chemo?

Is it possible you won't need radiation?

If you do, though, you'd want to run any supplements you're taking, or would like to, by the radiologist. In my experience, they seem to be a little less skittish about such things than the oncs are. If you need chemo, though, definitely check with your onc.

Oh - do you have a link to the study you mentioned, or the journal name?

Also, menopausal status is not related to whether one needs hormone therapy. It's one's hormonal status.