do i do a preventative mastectomy
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Lorrie - I totally can understand your frustration. Honestly, it is just that kind of thing that lead me to make the decision that I did. Life is too short for all that kind of worrying. And, for me, when it really came down to it, they were "only breasts." I wish you peace with your decision! - Jean
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Clariceak ~ Thank you! Interesting...I called my oncologist today to ask questions that I couldn't think of on Fri. Actually I spoke with his nurse. Long story short...she said my diagnosis was DCIS!! To say I'm emotionally a wreck is putting it mildly. I still have to wait for the BRCA test to come back - they said 4-6 weeks!!! & have to wait until Mon. to get my 2nd opinion from my surgeon. Anyway, the waiting game is on. Will keep you posted on Mon. Thank you for your input!
Hugs................Karin
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Hey everyone....well I should have known better than to listen to a nurse! She gave me the wrong diagnosis!! I do not have DCIS, it's lobular hyperplasia. I'm resting a bit easier but will see my surgeon & a breast specialist tomorrow. I'm leaning towards removing the suspicious tissue, seeing what the pathology shows & what by BRCA is when it comes back. I'll then make a decision regarding mastectomy. Has anyone else been down this same path? Thank you...Karin
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Karin - I had one focal point of LCIS and the rest of my breasts were riddled w/ lobular hyperplasia. So yes, I went down your path. Hugs. - Jean
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karin-----was the lobular hyperplasia regular or atypical? (ALH) The atypia is the worrisome part---if it is ALH, then usually an excision is recommended to make sure nothing more serious is in there along with it; if it is just regular hyperplasia, it is not an issue. I was diagnosed with LCIS 6 years ago (a step further along the bc spectrum from ALH with double the risk) and also have family history of ILC (mom)--I took tamoxifen for 5 years, now take Evista for further preventative measures and continue with high risk surveillance of alternating mammos and MRIs. So there are many options. Whatever you choose will be the right choice for you.
Anne
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Anne ~ My report says atypical ductal hyperplasia. Not sure what that means. The breast specialist this morning said she'd just watch it! Not sure I'm comfortable with that.
Karin
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Anne, Got a 2nd opinion yesterday & both Dr.'s are in agreement that the risk factor is small. The calcifications that are there are the same as 6 mos. ago. They don't think it's necessary to remove them, not even sure they can as they are scattered. My thinking is this, wait & see what the gene test shows & decide then. If it's negative as they suspect, I will probably continue with 6 mo. check ups & stay on the tamoxifen. If it's positive then I will have bilateral mast. They have said my risk factor is 10% or under of this turning into invasive bc. If I become uncomfortable, stressed or too anxious in Apr. & I see more calcifications then that may be another factor to consider PBM. Thanks for your input & support!
Karin
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Anne, I'm new at this...what is BSGI? Karin
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My sister had breast cancer at age 32, two years later my Mum had ovarian cancer at 61. At that point my sisters and I were followed at a high rish ovarian cancer clinic. Despite being monitored very closely I too got ovarian cancer, 10 months after my Mum died.
At that time we had genetic testing and were all determined to be BRCA1. I was then followed at a high risk breast cancer clinic. Five years later I got breast cancer. I really wish I'd had the prophylactic bilat mast. I could have saved myself a lot of grief.
I think genetic testing would be a good idea for you and, with that info, you can make a more informed decision. In hindsight, I would have opted for the mast.
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karin---sometimes they recommend an excisional biopsy for ADH (or ALH) just to make sure nothing more serious is in there along with it (DCIS /LCIS/ or invasive bc). They often recommend just close monitoring for ADH/ALH, unless there are other significant risk factors , such as close family history of bc in a primary relative, then tamoxifen is often added to the recommendation. The news you got from your doctors sounds good; sounds like the calcifications are stable and not clustered. (clustered is more worrisome than scattered); sounds like they don't feel an excisional is needed at this time. A BSGI is a breast specific gamma imaging--I haven't had this don, but I'm interested in it as well. I have alternating mammos with MRIs every 6 months, breast exams on the opposite 6 months, took tamox and now take Evista. Feel free to PM me if you want to talk, I've been dealing with this high risk for a long time now.
Anne
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Anne, Thank you! Depending on the results or if I have any questions I will PM you! Thanks for being here!
Karin
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Wow!! Amazing news....my Dr's. office just called....the gene test is back after only a week & it's negative! Thank God! I'll keep on with the 6 mo. mammos & go from there.
Karin
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Karin--that's great to hear such good news !!!
anne
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My father died 20 years ago from breast cancer, so I had the BRCA test done this year and I am BRCA1 positive with a new, unknown variant. That being said, I have decided my risk is too high so I am having a PBM and DIEP reconstruction in December and an oopherectomy next year. It can take 5 years or longer to find out if the variant is dangerous or not, but if it is, I am not only a higher risk of breast cancer, but of ovarian cancer as well, so I'm taking care if now before it takes care of me.
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Slm - I know I would do the same. Best wishes for your upcoming surgery!!!
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Slm ~ You'll be in my prayers. I would do the same thing! Take care of yourself.
Karin
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Slm - I would like to suggest something but first I'm not sure what DIEP reconstruction is. Please feel free to email me. I have a very dear friend who had bilateral mast.
Karin
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Thanks everyone for the prayers and support. I think I will need it as I was so hurt when a neighbor told me I was crazy for doing this. I told her it's hard for some to understand and that it was my personal choice.
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SLM- We are w/ you. It is a VERY personal choice. And only those of us that have been faced w/ it can understand. I had friends/associates that felt the same way. Hugs. - Jean
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My history is DCIS 17 years agoin left breast and this year LCIS in the other breast. BS said she would do PBMX if I wanted. BRAC came back negative and BS was suprised as I was young (37 for the DCIS) and now LCIS. After much researching I decided to do PBMX. My dtr helped convince me she said "Mom why do you want to go thru the tests every 6 months and wait to see if it becomes imvasive". So had BMX on 9/22/09 which showed atypical hyperplasia now in the old DCIS breast. BS said I was a ticking time bomb and I made the right decision for the BMX. You have to do what you feel is right.
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Typhoon. I'm glad you made the right decision. The constant tests and waiting for cancer to possibly show up is so stressful as you know. I don't want to wait for the cancer, then have to have the mastectomy anyway along with the chemo. I'm glad you're ok now. Thanks everyone for the support. It is much needed.
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Hi everyone,
I would like to run this past all of you. In September '09 I had an excisional biopsy of my LB because of a nipple that turned in suddenly. The mammo and ultrasound found a mass behind my nipple. The punch biopsy came back inconclusive, possible DCIS. My excisional biopsy turned into a partial MX. It came back neg. but with lots of microcalcifications and a lot of other things that sounded like they were describing a menstruating younger woman. I am 55 and haven't had a period since i was 46.
I have a grandmother and an aunt who died of BC, the aunt before she was 50. I also have two sisters with LCIS. One has had 4 biopsies and the other 5. They are older than me.
My BS does consider me at risk because of family hx. I can't afford the BRAC testing as my insurance doesn't cover it.
I have never worried about BC until about two years ago. I started feeling calcifications all around my RT nipple and behind it, deeper and farther back. My dr. and BS did explain that these do occur because of age and mammo has never come back suspicious on that side. But my gut has been screaming at me for these past two years that something is wrong there. (i did have to have an ultrasound once on my RB because of microcalcifications, but it was decided no need to biopsy).
My BS has no problem doing a MX on my LB because of the partial MX there already.
I explained to him i have been worrying about the other breast, which didn't sway him much, but then i also stressed that because of being divorced, on limited income because of MS, so on SSDI and working part-time w/o benefits, I couldn't afford to get BC because i can't afford to take off work for lots of tx's because if i don't work, i don't get paid. I also explained that I want to match, and I don't mind matching flat. I'm really not interested in reconstruction.
He totally understood those issues and also he knows i won't get anymore biopsies done. I won't go through what my sisters have gone through, he understands and agrees with that also.
But to tell you the truth, the biggest reason i want the BMX is because of my gut saying get rid of that RB, which hasn't had a problem. Also, the left one really is awfully deformed and i do want to match.
Does anyone understand my reasoning for wanting this done and does it make sense to you. It totally makes sense to me, but thought i'd run it by objective people.
Don't get the idea the BS is fighting me on this, he isn't, he just wants me to be sure since i have not been diagnosed as yet. (I'll bet money the RB comes back with something though). He's having me come back in three months and if i still feel the same way, he will do it, no problem. He wants me to wait the three months to give me extra time to gain strength back, because MS causes you to take just a little bit longer to bounce back, not much. He insists that what i had was major surgery, since he checked my SLN as well. I also think he wants me to have time to think, which i don't see anything wrong with either.
I realize we all make our own decisions. I just think mine is logical, even if i didn't have such a strong gut feeling, i sure don't like how i look now. But i also think i should listen to what my body is telling me. But I am more than willing to listen to what others think of my thinking processes here. I really want your feedback, so if you don't mind taking the time, please help.
Thanks so much,
Marian
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Marian - My right breast was prophylactic. My BS wanted me to do the close monitoring and bx's, but my oncologist and PS totally agreed w/ my decision. And there were developing problems on the breast "with no issues" after they bx'd it.
I woudl say go w/ you gut! You are the one that needs to live w/ your decision. And you are the one who is worried! A matched set of girls is nice to have.
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My kids mom-
Thank you so much, mykidsmom. i guess what's different is that my left was an "accidental" prophylactic, but that was due to circumstances beyong my control Besides, last nite i looked up everything on path report. Besides describing the breasts of a menstruating woman, which i'm not, most of the things on it, were described as "hard to tell from DCIS", which from the first biopsy was the problem, they couldn't decide if it was DCIS or not. On the last path they decided it wasn't. I've heard a lot of horror stories, where in that tight of a case, they just didn't get it "right". But since they did the partial MX and took nipple and aerola and another 6 cm all around it, i don't even need another opinion. It's ugly! YUK! I'd much rather have a flat MX than a half MX. Thank you again, because i sure feel like the other one is the one with a problem whether it shows up on mammo or not.
I tend not to go to the dr. because of fear of making an ass out of myself. Since they've said RT is ok, i won't argue w them, or push for more tests, so better to take the chance while i have it and get it rmoved.
And yes, I definitely want to match. Did you have any "feelings" one way or another about the so called "good one"? Were you surprised there were develing problems in it before you had it removed?
Thanks,
Marian
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Hi Moonbuddy,
Follow your gut. I didn't even hesitate after being diagnosed with right breast IDC. I told them to remove both. #1 to decrease my chances of left breast cancer and #2 for better reconstruction. I was 37 when diagnosed. I don't know...I didn't even hesitate when considering removing the cancer free breast. So a month after my bil mastectomy I had a gene study done and found out I was BRCA2 positive. I was told that if I hadn't removed the left breast...I would have had an 87% chance of breast cancer in it within ONE YEAR. I think your choices are very valid and I'm behind you 100%!!!
~Patty
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kreativek: i am also going for a pbmx in Dec & i am hoping to have the 1 step. I had a reduction many yrs ago & wanted the PBMX then, but they would not do it. I am high risk & i will NOT take the drugs. I am"c" cup now & would like to be a "b" cup. May i ask what size you r now? I wanted to b a "B" cup when i had my reduction, but the Dr felt it was to much of a surgery . I was a DD.
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Pattyrn,
Thanks so very much. It's nice to know my thinking is on base. Like you, I didn't even have a qualm about taking both. Since my troubles always seem to be at, around, behind my nipple, if i ever have to have a biopsy on the RT side, it would probably end up the same, partial MX. But that didn't even enter my head. It was just, un huh, no more of this sh..t! Off with them! Thanks again for your support. What a blessing you had already had yours done and didn't have to go back in for surgery again!
Shoshi, what a bummer they didn't do the surgery for you the first time! My sisters have been on the meds and I know I don't want that! I don't think either of them will choose to go through a lumpectomy again after having so many. I 'm sure you're wondering if you have enough skin to go from C to B and i don't have a clue. I'm just assuming you do, hopefully. Maybe it'll be a blessing in disguise that they didn't take you all the way down to B so you'll have what you need to do what kreativek did. Best of luck to you!
Thanks for the support i've been given.
Marian
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Marian - The word I had from my BS is that LCIS typically is bilateral, so I wasn't very surprised that there were developing problems. And I have never looked back. I am so pleased to be where I am at. Best wishes w/ your decision. - Jean
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Jean,
So nice to hear. My sisters who have had 11 biopsies between them, stopped taking their medicine and are planning on mastectomies next time. I'm not waiting, since this opportunity is here now. Glad to to hear your pleased with where you are. i'm going to have the BMX and i can get reconstruction when i have time down the road, can i not? If i even want it! Thanks, Marian
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Marian - There are many options for reconstruction and you can certainly do it after the mx if that's what you prefer. I wish you all the best!!
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