Suzanne Somers has changed her diagnosis

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  • GracieM2007
    GracieM2007 Member Posts: 1,564
    edited October 2009

    Listen, cancer has been around since the time of the pyramids.  If there were 'natural' cures, some group of people, somewhere, would have already found them.

    My grandmother and her mother before her both died of breast cancer.  My grandmother ate a far better diet than I probably ever have as they grew all of their own food, completely organic, no added pesticides, or herbicides or fertilizers.  She worked harder, had more stamina and a completely different type of stress than we have today.  BRCA 1 and 2 weren't even known then, nor was it known that breast cancer was a different type than lung cancer, it was just all cancer. The point I'm making is that there is no 'natural' cure.

    I chose chemo.  Because there is a family history.  I was fortunate enough to be BRCA negative.  But evidently there is some other gene that still makes us more likely to get cancer.  If it's gene related, nothing you can do 'naturally' is going to change your genes.

    Just my opinion 

  • Sue-61
    Sue-61 Member Posts: 599
    edited November 2009

    How come so many of you have no biography posted here? Especially the pugilistic folks. Do YOU have breast cancer?  Do you?

    I have not read SS books. I think she was cruel re her comments re Patrick Swayze. I do not like cruel people. I mourn what his wife is going through. I know what it is like to lose a spouse.

    I respect your right to defend your beliefs. But aren't we ALL trying to play nice in the sandbox? 

    I question if some of the posters here do have breast cancer.  Or if you are somehow involved in Suzanne Somers' publicity stunts.

    Bless you all and warm hugs to all my sisters and brothers..... who DO have breast cancer......Sue 

  • Diana63
    Diana63 Member Posts: 773
    edited October 2009

    Great Post Sue-61, my thought exactly and, why aren't they posting on the natural girls threads?

  • konakat
    konakat Member Posts: 6,085
    edited October 2009

    I don't think anyone should feel obliged to post their dx. It's a personal choice.  It's not fair to point fingers at people who choose not to.

    Edited to tone down.  :-)

  • konakat
    konakat Member Posts: 6,085
    edited October 2009

    And, non SS supporters have posted on the alternative. 

    BTW -- I am NOT a SS supporter.

  • Sue-61
    Sue-61 Member Posts: 599
    edited October 2009

    Diana, thanks for the validation, not that I need it.

    Konakat, you are correct. Mea culpa. No one HAS to post their dx. I was trying to see if the posters really do have cancer. You have put me in my place. I do apolgize if I offended anyone who does not have breast cancer. Enjoy your cake! (meant affectionately) (and i do thoroughly enjoy reading about all your knowledge and wisdom that you impart on this site......I really do.)

    I just don't get all the hostility here.EDITED TO ADD: I am certainly not mean spirited.

  • badboob67
    badboob67 Member Posts: 2,780
    edited October 2009

    I have personally read and POSTED legitimate studies regarding the use of antioxidants and their contraindication of use during chemotherapy. Most recently was probably last spring and was in the alternative section of the boards. A quick search using my name and keyword "antioxidants" should bring up the link/study I posted.

    I'm not against alternatives at all, but one must use common sense. I worry that someone who has just received a diagnosis and is terrified of traditional treatments may not be fully capable of divorcing themselves from that fear and could be convinced to go with less- or unproven methods like SS espouses because of that fear. Shoot, even now I feel like I've received a "get out of jail free" card if I go in for chemo and my counts are too low or there is some other reason to skip a week. 

    This IS true and is something that people using alternatives/supplements along with certain chemos need to be aware of:  Many chemotherapies function by CREATING free radicals. ANTIOXIDANTS are proven preventatives of free radicals. Knowing that, does it make sense to use antioxidants along with those chemos?  Seems to me it's only logical that one would be negating any good that could come from using the chemo.

    I would love to have the reassurance that I could experiment with alternatives, but i don't have that luxury. I've not been truly stable since my initial dx (mets from the start). In the past my cancer has been slow-growing, but not slowly enough for me to feel safe to give up 3 to 6 months trying an alternative route.

    As to what SS said about Farrah Fawcett and 3 chemos (not sure exacty what it was): I watched "Farrah's Story" and saw that she traveled to Germany and also received RFA (Radiofrequency Ablation) for her liver mets. Not sure if SS mentioned that or even knew it. I also felt it was terribly insensitive for her to suggest that Patrick Swayze basically committed suicide by utilizing traditional treatments. Pancreatic cancer is horrible and a bear to fight because it is usually not caught until end stages. My feeling was that he survived (and seemed to do quite well considering he was working until very soon before his death) for quite a bit longer than one would expect with his dx.

  • Diana63
    Diana63 Member Posts: 773
    edited October 2009

    Konakat, I didn't mean it the way it sounded, its just the topic is already on the nature thread why double post? I did post on it but I posted an interview of SS. Someone asked about her dx and I posted it. I think she is both dangerous and cruel, she shots off her mouth about things she knows nothing about. The Patrick Swayze comment was so low she should be crawling on her belly after that statement.

    If stage 1 women want to go the natural route than I say good for them but if you are stage 3 or 4 you don't have any option but chemo. She doesnt talk much about her doing surgery & rads, she leaves that out as much as possible.

    When she becomes

    Suzanne Somers M.D maybe I will listen to her.

  • Diana63
    Diana63 Member Posts: 773
    edited October 2009

    Konakat, I didn't mean it the way it sounded, its just the topic is already on the nature thread why double post? I did post on it but I posted an interview of SS. Someone asked about her dx and I posted it. I think she is both dangerous and cruel, she shots off her mouth about things she knows nothing about. The Patrick Swayze comment was so low she should be crawling on her belly after that statement.

    If stage 1 women want to go the natural route than I say good for them but if you are stage 3 or 4 you don't have any option but chemo. She doesnt talk much about her doing surgery & rads, she leaves that out as much as possible.

    When she becomes

    Suzanne Somers M.D maybe I will listen to her.

  • Sue-61
    Sue-61 Member Posts: 599
    edited October 2009

    Getting too nasty here, bye

  • Sue-61
    Sue-61 Member Posts: 599
    edited October 2009

    http://www.docboard.org/docfinder.html

    check this out....docs with education and credentials. 

  • konakat
    konakat Member Posts: 6,085
    edited October 2009

    Oh crap -- sorry if I came off too strong.  My apologies -- I was hoping to difuse potential arguments.  Sorry.  I deleted some of my post to tone down.

    Thanks Sue!  And I do regularly practice my cake and ice cream mantra!!

  • Sue-61
    Sue-61 Member Posts: 599
    edited October 2009

    Konakat..........you are FAB! You have proven that you CAN have your cake and eat it too........Just felt I had to defend myself. I am a kind and caring person, as are you. I hate fighting. I am the oldest of six kids and I can tell you it ain't easy being the peacemaker.........PEACE AND LOVE TO ALL , Sue

    PS this BC thing really bites, huh?

  • konakat
    konakat Member Posts: 6,085
    edited October 2009

    I'm the spoiled bratty youngest kid!!  ;-)

    And I do agree with you Diane -- one tx does not fit every dx!!

    Gee I wish everyone kissed and made up as fast as we did!  We're all FAB!!

  • Diana63
    Diana63 Member Posts: 773
    edited October 2009

    I like what Fittwins said some place one big dysfunctional l family. Laughing

  • Denny123
    Denny123 Member Posts: 1,886
    edited October 2009

    Here's my dx below.  Don't know how I lost it.

    Maybe SS had a hand in this....  

  • Diana63
    Diana63 Member Posts: 773
    edited October 2009

     Maybe SS had a hand in this....  

    Conspiracy theories (just kidding) Wink

  • konakat
    konakat Member Posts: 6,085
    edited October 2009
    Diana -- you are a rascally rabbit!!  Laughing
  • Denny123
    Denny123 Member Posts: 1,886
    edited October 2009

    Athena-40-heck-I lost 55!  But the max choice was 40.  Lost 37 on left, 18 on the right. And only mild lymphedemia on each side!!!!!

    Plus, I had a diff CA in each breast, so it was hard to make a choice.

    Nothing like an unfair dx table.....

    Curses on SS

  • Denny123
    Denny123 Member Posts: 1,886
    edited October 2009

    Oh yeah-another honor-I used to be drain queen on the recon board-total of 15 drains.  6 diff surgeries, of course.

  • Diana63
    Diana63 Member Posts: 773
    edited October 2009

    I know I am notty Konakat Laughing

    Wow Denny 15 drains, you must have felt like sprinkler system. At the most I had 4 at one time, the ones on my back drove me nuts.  

  • Denny123
    Denny123 Member Posts: 1,886
    edited October 2009

    Those were in 6 diff surgeries.  Had 4 with double mast, 4 with lat flap.  Fun times.

  • deni63
    deni63 Member Posts: 601
    edited October 2009

    Hi ladies, I only came to see what happened on this thread with Dawn and why she is so upset and not posting any longer. Yeah she can be argumentative. But you know what, she has so much to offer on these threads. She is intelligent and is a great contributor. It is just amazing to me that you all argue that living a clean lifestyle has no effect on cancer growth yet constantly talk about drinking wine and martinis. It is well documented that alcohol consumption increases your risk by 51%. There are so many risk factors that you can cut if you educate yourself on what those factors are. For starters, you may want to rethink the drink.

  • Diana63
    Diana63 Member Posts: 773
    edited October 2009

    Wow deni63, you are just baiting people now, I haven't drank in years and I had BC. Also I think we are ALL well aware of the risk factors and BC. We were edumicated by the seats of our pants, so to speak. Laughing Anyone got any popcorn, this is going to get edumicational real fast?

    Denie63-It is well documented that alcohol consumption increases your risk by 51%. There are so many risk factors that you can cut if you educate yourself on what those factors are. For starters, you may want to rethink the drink.

  • Member_of_the_Club
    Member_of_the_Club Member Posts: 3,646
    edited October 2009

    I'll have some popcorn with my BIG GLASS OF RED WINE!

  • Fitztwins
    Fitztwins Member Posts: 7,969
    edited October 2009

    Honey, I wasn't a drinker before I got BC. Lot of good it did me. I rather die a happy drunk with BC, than just a teatoddler with BC.

    pass the miracle juice. 

  • hollyann
    hollyann Member Posts: 2,992
    edited October 2009

    Same here Janis....I was a teetotaler too and for what?......Just wanted to add my two cents' woth regarding SS.....I saw her in an interview on my local station this morning and she said she had "total body chemo" for her bc.....Total body chemo?.....What ?....Is there any "Half body Chemo"????.......

    Janis, I'll take a glass of that, please......

  • activern
    activern Member Posts: 409
    edited October 2009
  • Babyface
    Babyface Member Posts: 91
    edited October 2009

    Deni63

      Perhaps you didnt read my earlier message on this thread. I see that you are recently arrival to bc.org and it may be that you dont understand the various stages of bc yet. This board is a stage 4 board. This board is for women who have had some form of bc spread. Most of the women on this board are dealing with treatments to keep themselves alive and have far more pressing concerns that do the rest of us.. This is simply not the appropriate place for you to be pushing your agenda. The women on this board have far better things to do than to debate the merits of a glass of wine with you. There are other boards that would be far more appropriate for this and if any of the stage 4 women wish to discuss this with you they could do so there leaving those who do not without this added grief.  Thank you

  • clemson93
    clemson93 Member Posts: 575
    edited October 2009

    I never drank or smoked and exercised all the time and I got breast cancer at the age of 37. Clearly, living a healthy lifestyle didn't help me avoid breast cancer.



    Susan

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