SEPTEMBER 2009 RADS
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Oh, I love the pictures. I have been topless since this all started. I just couldn't wrap my head (joke here) around a wig in the hot humid summer. My hair is starting to come in, but it's thinnest on the top. I don't have a recent picture, I'll see if someone can take a picture of me.
MTG, I'm on Femara, and am considered pre menopausal - because I was prior to chemo. I'm 45 now and the chemo ended my cycles, but since there is a decent chance they would come back at some point, my doctor has me on Lupron injections (every 10 weeks, administered by my chemo nurse) and Femara. I could have done Tamoxifen, but chose this route instead. I'll be on it for 5 years, just like Tamoxifen.
I survived the weekend with the in laws and thankfully, they pretty much stopped talking about people dying. I failed to mention in my previous post that my father in law had lymphoma about 8 years ago, so he definitely has cancer on his mind when he sees me. It ended up being a really nice visit in the end, so I'm grateful they came to visit. Mostly grateful so my kids could see them, but also grateful for the cooking my mother in law did over the weekend.
This is my last full week of rads. I have 7 more to go. I'm very hopeful my skin holds up and there are no delays during the last stretch of treatment!
Pam
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Hey there fellow RADicals, I've been layin' low just lurking out here because my treatment has been going along just fine, no fatigue, not sick, just a little red, blah blah blah. I just finished #26 of 33 with 5 boosts. I'm getting that thing where the skin under the arm is cracking open so seeing the light at the end is a good thing. Congrats to all of you that have finished and are in the throes of hair production. Mine's all white and fuzzy....I look like a baby duck!
After this, on to Tamox. Have you been to the threads for that? On one of them it's hard to get much info....they've melded into more of a hang out group that talks about not getting home appliances fixed on time etc. I'm thinking about starting a new thread that gets back on the subject.....we'll see, I'm not that dedicated. Hopefully the SE's won't be bad enough for the need, but I guess you never know until you're in the trenches. Either way, it's been good to know all of you during this time, stay well, Mary
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I know what what you mean about the "hang out" aspect. I'm reading pages and pages of old posts trying to glean some facts re: tamox side effects and options but getting much more chat. Then again, I remember doing the same thing thru the rads pages trying to find out what creams and lotions women used. I guess it's the nature of the animal and, if I had to choose, I prefer getting to know the September rads group to just having the facts.
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Well, I went in for my Herceptin treatment today and I am bummed now because my oncologist had to leave the practice because of personal reasons...I really liked him a lot too and have been with him now for 10 months. I will have to start all over now with a different oncologist. My skin is getting a little better, but still red and painful, so I stopped in at radiology. The nurse gave me some more Xeroform pads and told me to keep using the Silvadene. She said it would be a couple of more weeks before I am healed. I was worried about scars too, but she didn't seem to think I will have any.
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The only side effect I am having from Tamox is hot flashes. They seem worse than they were before. The onc gave me a script for Effexor (sp) which is an antidepressant and it is prescribed at a very low dose. It is supposed to help with the hot flashes and not interfere with the tamox. Apparantly the other antidepressants interfere with tamox. I haven't got the script filled because I hate the idea of taking another medicine and am trying to see if I can just cope with the flashes.
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M- I know tamoxifen has some serious se's but my surgeon summed it up for me. I will get the biggest bang for the buck with tamox. She said it would be more effective than the chemo and rads, in my case. Yes- I asked if I could skip chemo & rads...short answer was NO! I am one of those women that have never gone through a pregnancy, so she pretty much felt too much estrogen is what caused my cancer. After reading through all the materials, I felt ok with starting tamox. - actually I started the day before I started rads. Both my chemo and rads oncs, wanted me to start it right away...after my lab work determined I was still perimenopausal. He said I was absolutely to be religious about my annual pap and wanted to start me on some drugs to counter the potential bone loss. My bone density test showed I have ostopenia already. After reading the se's from those drugs, I said no. I had terrible bone se's on chemo & with neulasta. In Nov. when I see him again, I'm going to ask for a PT consult to make sure my exercise routine includes effective weight bearing exercises. Plus I increased my calcium intake to 1200 mg., along with my vitamin D.
The only se I've had from tamox is more frequent hot flashes - I started at the end of August. Initially they were very intense, now they are not as overwhelming to me. Certainly more frequent than prior to chemo. I had an increase in frequency when chemopause started. So it's all hormone related.
My younger sister was just diag. with uterine cancer in Sept., so I'm going to speak with my onc about his recommendation on doing a hysterectomy.
If you learn of alternatives....please pass on the info.
Thanks for all the compliments on my post chemo hairdo. It's still a little too edgy for me. In yesterday's light it sure looks gray. Oh well...it's hair, I'm not complaining.
Christy - sorry to hear about your onc., hopefully you will find a new one that you really like.
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Well, it's been almost 3 weeks since I finished. Is anyone out there tired? This is different than the tiredness from Lupus. With that, I was tired, but not sleepy. Since radiation after I'm busy awhile I get so tired and sleepy. I just feel like I need to nap everyday. Anyone else?
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Betsy - Thanks for bottom lining it for me. There are so many variables; trying to get a grip on them all is driving me nuts. Because of My mother's history with Endometrial/Uterine Cancer, I'm going to do a baseline vaginal sono/ultrasound before I start Tamoxifen and also have an appt for the BRCA test.
Here's a question: if the BRCA test shows positive for increased risk of uterine cancer, since Tamox also increases that risk, will I have to be extra vigilant ? (I've already decided that I'm not opting for pre-emptive surgery.) If I do have problems with cysts etc while on tamox, will they go away or at least stop forming if I go off Tamox. And yes, if you ladies aren't certain, I'll post on the tamox thread.)
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BetsyBuzz & MTG, I haven't started the Tamox. yet, however, when I mentioned that I would soon start that, my Gyn doctor said that he liked to do yearly uterine biopsies on women taking the Tamox. The way he described it, it sounded only a little more invasive than a PAP smear. I would imagine it would be early detection of abnormal cell growth, before having any bleeding or symptoms. Just mentioning it, in case you would like to bring it up with your doctors.
kawee, I'm still pretty tired & napping (2 wks out of Rads.)
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elimar - Thanks for the info. Knowledge is power. My gyno doesn't even want to talk to me until after I have the sonogram done but I will keep it in mind for when I see him.
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hi all--still tired too more so than last week --trying to be patient hoping for that to subside--I am freaking out though abut this arimidex that I have to start --will see my doc next week--everything I read seems negative--he even said 50 % of people cant take it-- fatigue depression bone pain joint pain osteoporosis --I already have fatigue and bone and joint pain --everyone out there seems like they are on tamox-- is anyone on or going to start arimidex?--the threads on it are really negative I cant read them they upset me too much-- sorry for going on and on but I have had a positive attitude all the way along and looking forward to getting my life back and it looks like I will be in for another big hurdle--this is really the first time I am feeling so negative-- help !!! Laura
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Laura, I'm kinda freaked out too, even about the tamoxifen. I had my estrogen level checked, then I'm going to take it to my onco and try to talk him out of it (yeah, right). He put me on tamoxifen because he said for me (because of the Lupus with already body pain and fatigue) he thought tamoxifen would be a better choice. He said if that doesn't work for me, there a lot of others he could try. He said normally he would go with fosamax (I think) but it does cause body pain.
I started back on my vitamins, D, multiple and C and actually I'm starting to feel better. Have you started back on yours.
Also, I want to see what the percentages are of survival with and without the tamoxifen. He told me but way back then I was totally overwhelmed I don't remember. Quality of life means alot. Besides I am 63, no ovaries, postmenopausal. I think alot of it could depend on your age and alot of other things. Anyway my appointment is next week. We'll see.
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THanks kawee--I will let you know what my onc says too--fosamax is for osteoporosis so not sure if that is what you are thinking--i know there is another med besides arimidix called femora with is another option--just not sure--I spoke with someone today who is arimidex and said she isdoing fine==so i am going withthat philosophy - I am 61 and post menopausal also so we will see how it goes--will keep you posted--
I started back on my vit d but not anything else yet--not usually a vitamin taker except for C (a lot of good that did for me!!!) but might start a multiple vit--and will see what my calcium and vit. d levels are again and start on some calcium--before this i never took anything maybe a tylenol once in a while--so much for healthy living!!!
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Laura, you're right, it's Femara. My rheumatologist told me I need to take the tamoxifen and I would know within 2 hours how it would make me feel and if I felt I couldn't tolerate it, it would be out of my system in 24 hours. That was somewhat encouraging. Still haven't taken it tho. I'll let you know what onco says. I go next Wednesday.
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Laura,
One of the ladies I work with had bc about 5 years ago. She tried arimidex or femora (I can't recall) and had terrible bone pain. She couldn't get out of bed. After trying it for a while she told the onc that her quality of life was more important than the odds her cancer might return and quit taking it completely. Everyone has to make their own best decision..but OMG some times it's so hard to know what to do. Won't it be nice if we just had a crystal ball?
I think I am fortunate that at least for the first year I can take tamoxifen. After everything I read about arimidex and femora...I'm not sure what I'm going to do when I become post menopausal. My onc said they typically give you tamoxifen if you are perimenopausal then switch you once you test post menopausal. But I guess there are always exceptions, based on what Kawee wrote.
I'm doing well on tamox. and boy do I feel better at the two week mark. I'm starting to look more tan than burnt. My breast swelling has gone down, the girls look pretty equal these days, and yesterday I wore a bra for the first time in a month. Whoopie! I started excercising yesterday too. So major improvement for me. Now I'm just waiting for the shrinkage to begin, I heard that might happen.
Kawee - I felt that sleepy tired kinda feeling the last week of rads and the first week out. Like I said earlier, I'm feeling better each day.
For those of you just wrapping up...it may get worse before it gets better but my onc was right. At the two week mark my body truly began to heal. Hang in there.
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Just wanted to stop in and mention that a friend of mine on here had serious bone pain on arimidex - switched to Femara and tolerates it much better, so there is a chance that a different A/I will work better for you.
Betsy - happy to hear that your swelling is down - mine is still significant but I am a week behind you.
A crystal ball would be so nice to have.
Hope all are doing well
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THanks all for the input--I will let you know how I do once i try it--a friend of mine switched to femara also and tolerates that better-so maybe there will be options--they used to use only tamox on everyone since there were no alternatives--pre or post menopausal--my mom at 80 years old was on tamox for 7 years-- but just dont know--will keep you all posted!! Laura
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I finish today!!!!!
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Tsotis - Congratulation on your last day! Isn't it a great feeling?
I am 2 weeks out from rads and the burn in my boost area is becoming more tanned than burned as well. I never had much fatigue but I am feeling even better now. Started Tamox about 2 weeks ago and I don't feel any SEs at all (so far). I hope it continues this way.This really has been quite a saga. For me, the rads were the easiest part. But even so, I'm glad they're OVER!!!

Everybody who is getting close to the end - keep pushing on. You will make it!!!
Amy
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tsotls - Hip, hip, hooray!!! What a great feeling, isn't it, to be finished with this step in your tx?
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ok, getting close to rads end but have just been so ready for it to be done that I've gone completely off the wagon for the last two weeks - chocolate, baked goods, cheese, chinese foods, bread and bagels, and the list goes on !!!! I've eaten foods that I haven't had in over 6 months and have probably gained 10 lbs. Last night I got into the Halloween candy. When my brother asked if I at least had a costume on, I answered , yes, Lady Godiva.....aah the costume ideas that rads gives us. Only one more day till the weekend ! Horray !!!
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MTG--living in nyc has gotta be hard food wise!!!there are so many wonderful resaurants and every one delivers--My daughter lived in manhattan for over 5 years and going there always put weight on us--too many food cues!!! hang in there --my appetite has definitely gotten more since finishing chemo and now that rads are done i am trying so hard to watch it--esp. since I will be starting arimidex and weight gain is a probable se--but dont want to think about that yet--have a good weekend!!
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Lolly's - you're 100% right ! Plus there are about 1,000 restaurants in a 2 block radius so lots to choose from. I figure I'll go back to a healthy diet on Tuesday, the day after I finish normal rads and start my boosts. Until then, I already have decided that a cheesburger and mexican food (with Margarita) will be on my menu in the next few days. I know I'll pay the price but being indulgent is definitely fun !!!!
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Thanks to all of you! I can't believe the "active"part of treatment is finally over." Mutilated, poisoned and burned"--but still here.
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Congrats tsotls! Love your line..."mutilated, poisoned and burned"....that pretty much sums it up.
Mtg- on rads I gained about 6 lbs, as everything finally started tasting good. All I wanted to do was eat...after losing 10 lbs on chemo, I'm pretty much back to where I began. Oh well, it is what it is.
I'm feeling so good these days, actually feeling almost normal. We are heading out on vacation...I hope everyone has a healing weekend and a great week.
Betsy
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Betsy - I dont have the chemo to blame. Just a total loss of self control. And for the moment, I dont give a damn. Anyway, have a fabulous, fabulous vacation. You've earned it, not only by going thru BC but by being everyone's rock on this thread. Thank you !
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tsotis--you have said it all!!
Betsy have a great vacation--I agree with MTG!!!
so am i crazy for not going to see my close friends's dad in the hospital tonite because I am paranoid about the germs--still feel like I am runned down and didnt want to take the chance--my daughters even thought i shouldnt go unless I wear a mask and i didnt want to do that-- I am a nurse and usually am around a lot of sick people ( although I have not worked for 8 months) so i am not usually germophobic but right now I am--feeling like a crapy friend--I have a lot of guilt--anyway --hope everyone has a good weekend--
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lollys - Personally, I don't blame you for not going to the hospital. Your friend will definitely understand. After everything you've been through, your main goal should be keeping yourself healthy. As a nurse, you know the number of germs that can be spread in the hospital. I'm not usually a germaphobe either, but I have been washing my hands a lot more & trying to avoid some of the "germier" places. We can't live in a bubble, but we can be careful.
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lollys- I didn't even go visit my brother in the hospital a few weeks ago when I was still doing rads and I didn't even have chemo. I am a nurse also but did not feel it was worth the risk. My brother understood that as I am sure your friend does. I am still working and do public health so at this point I think everyone needs to be a little germaphopic. Congrats to those who got done this week and for those of you going on vacation I am jealous but wish you all fun times.
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I know it's a bit late here, but I wanted to chime in on the AI discussion. I'm on Femara, and have been since early September. It's fine so far. I am achey, but it's not intolerable. If that's the only side effect, I can easily tolerate it for 5 years. I'm pre menopausal, so I'm also on Lupron shots, but for me the AI was a better decision (or at least I think so!). Anyway, I thought I'd chime in about that. Starting the Femara reminded me of starting Taxol. Everyone has different experiences, but I was more anxious about it than anything else. In the end, it's been fine for me. But remember everyone tolerates it differently.
I have 3 more boosts to go and I'm done! I can't wait. I have managed to catch a cold, so i can't really tell how tired I am from the rads because the cold is making me tired too! My skin is okay, it's just now starting to feel irritated, so hopefully it won't get much worse in the next 2 weeks.
I am just downright giddy at the thought of finishing rads. I'm so tired of driving to the hospital!!!
Have a good weekend everyone.
Pam
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