Starting Chemo October 2009

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  • one-L
    one-L Member Posts: 1,110
    edited October 2009

    Thank all of you for the encouragement and the information you are giving me.  I get my port on Wednesday and my first treatment on Friday.  I just couldn't face having the chemo the same day as the port.

    Reneejean -- thanks for letting me know how you got through your treatment.  I hope I do as well as you.  I am still of the opinion that I will not do a wig but that could change at any moment.

    Donna -- I already use Sensodyne tooth paste, so maybe I am already ahead.

    Budomi -  thanks for the information on supplements.  I have been trying to find out what I needed to drop and your information really helps.

    Meredith -  it looks like we are on the same day.  It is also my dh's birthday.  He said thanks for the memories.

    Onty -- I hope I do OK, I think  I will.  I am at peace with my decision and I am very healthy, I just have breast cancer.  How strange is that?  I guess what I am trying to say is that I don't have any other health issues and I know lots of people do.

    MaryNY -- thanks for starting this thread, it is so full  of information and your are doing us all a great service.

    Michelle -- thanks for your comment.  I knew it was just club soda and someone else had said salt and water, then someone through in the soda. As my grandson would say, "I was just messin' with you".

    Hope everyone has a great evening.

    Juannelle

  • valeriekd
    valeriekd Member Posts: 287
    edited October 2009

    Hi mrs b -I like mgh for this trip so far- I have dr Erban as my onc amd had Hughes as my surgeon and Mary beth Singer as my NP. There is a gal on this web who also has Erban and our protocols r similiar but our dxs differ. Same age, (53) but different don't know how they decide......but you know they r pretty, smart, dedicated and I think decidedly nice and comforting which goes a long way w/ me. let us know your story ,docs or pm if u want.

    Joanne - if it feels helpful to ask questions or pick my brain - feel free - so far pretty good on day 11 w/ some scalp soreness, fatigue and muscle ache but all manageable, It still manages to piss me off a few times a day tho - I gotta say that!

    edit-I'll be back at the infusion ctr at 10 or so on the 29th if anyone is around V. 

    Jean -r u around? Love to all Valerie 

  • MeredithK02
    MeredithK02 Member Posts: 86
    edited October 2009

    Hi Juannelle,

    Woo, the same chemo "birthday!"   Is your DH doing anything to celebrate?  Putting frosting on some saltines?  He can drink champagne while you have a club soda gargle!

     Meredith

  • txstardust
    txstardust Member Posts: 599
    edited October 2009

    I think I'm finally back among the living today.  This is the first day I ventured out of the house since Wednesday.  I've lost 8 pounds in 5 days.  Couldn't really eat much until today - nausea, then I was asleep so much, I wasn't awake enough to eat.  I made it to the LGFB class today, and it was a lot of fun, not to mention the approximately $300 worth of cosmetics I got - Chanel, Clinique, nice stuff!  

    Jaclyn, I had that same headache the day of treatment - you're the first person to mention the debilitating headache.  It was almost as bad as the nausea!  I only got migraines during my second pregnancy, and that was 13 years ago, nothing like that since - until last Wednesday!  I hadn't considered taking something to prevent it, so I'm really glad you mentioned it.

    I love the new pictures that some of you have put up!  Maybe tomorrow I'll have the energy to mess with that.  As far as the hair goes...I think I'll enjoy not having to shave, but that's all I can think of as a positive for that...

    Shoshanna, seems like you're up for your next dose soon?  I hope it goes well for you!

    Peace to all... 

  • one-L
    one-L Member Posts: 1,110
    edited October 2009

    Meredith -- to add insult to injury, he is turning 60.  We have not planned anything special, too many things going on.  He will just get to spend the day with me and have some together time. Maybe after chemo, we can go out to eat.

    Ok, that brings up a question.  How do you feel immediately after chemo?  Should  you eat lightly or just have a regular meal?

    Juannelle

  • unklezwifeonty
    unklezwifeonty Member Posts: 1,710
    edited October 2009

    Dear 1L,

    You will be fine immediately after chemo except maybe a little tired from the whole day. Suggest you start eating lightly 4-6 times a day rather than 3 regular meals. But the chemo day is fine.

  • MarieK
    MarieK Member Posts: 911
    edited October 2009

    Txstardust I had the bad headache too right after my first infusion - I think that's what made me more nauseated and vomit.  I woke up at 2am and my head was pounding and my heart was thumping and I knew I was going to throw up.

    Once the headache was gone - I just took some extra strength Tylenol -  I felt much better and could actually eat.

    Next time I'll know to take the Tylenol first and then I'll be able to keep the anti-nausea stuff down better.

    I'm seeing my onc next Monday morning before my next chemo infusion and I'm going to ask him about the vomitting/headache and the welt that I still have from the Epirubicin reaction.

    I'm glad I'm seeing the injection nurse again next Wed for my first shot of round 2 neupogen injections.  On my last injection I must have hit some blood vessels because it bled so much.  Good thing it was the last shot!

    Anyone else have trouble with their neupogen injections - doing it themselves I mean?

    Juannelle I would go lightly with the food and just gauge how you feel.  My husband brought home sushi for him and the kids that night and the just smell was enough to make me feel sick.

  • joanneasiata
    joanneasiata Member Posts: 719
    edited October 2009

    Ladies thanks for your tips and  on  your updates with chemo im watching closley to everyones symptons  ive now got 3 MORE SLEEPS TO GO TO CHEMO

    MeredithKO2 how was chemo class r ther other women or r u just one on one with a nurse im going tomorow and im not sure wheither im doing toxol after a/c it seems to go hand in hand     doesnt it i hope she can answer that one if so ill be on the other end of a drip for another month or two not happy  but gotta do what youve gotta do                                                                                        

  • azdiva
    azdiva Member Posts: 201
    edited October 2009

    Juanelle - 

    You may be fine until the steroid wears off.  My only suggestion is don't eat chicken corn chowder with habanero sauce (see my post above)!  Unless you are having constipation issues - which it will immediately solve!

    The slimy taste doesn't really start until day 2 or 3.  Then it doesn't matter.  Nothing tastes right.  But taste buds should come back by day 7 or 8.  I think it gets worse (as in longer time period) the more tx's we are on.  

    I think I had it easy first go round.  Knocking on wood (or my head, as the case may be), that it will continue to be manageable.

    Love to All -

    Laura 

  • unklezwifeonty
    unklezwifeonty Member Posts: 1,710
    edited October 2009

    Dear Peices123,

    Good luck for your first chemo.

    Dear Laura,

    The side effects are generally cumulative but everyone is different. Some handle it better in later cycles having gotten used to the side effects and being prepared for them.

  • MeredithK02
    MeredithK02 Member Posts: 86
    edited October 2009

    The chemo class was a pretty big waste of time.  It was just DH and me so I thought she might skip the parts we already knew, but nooooo.  Did you know that your white blood cells are your body's soldiers?  And when you get an infection, your body sends a whole army of them?  Lots of cell metaphors. 

    And it was the same nurse who pointed out at the last visit that most people my age are having kids, not going through chemo.  Thank goodness she pointed that out.

     AND there was a terrible video.  They stuck the warning about not breastfeeding during chemo into the "sex and intimacy" portion.  Money mouth (I thought the "money" smiley would work here, since it looks like someone barfing).

     But for the chemo itself, I'm trying to see the silver lining.  It's an excuse to buy fancy noise-cancellation headphones, I now have some cute scarf/caps, I might lose the 15 pounds I'd like to (no longer "hourglass" since the bilateral Mx), and I get out of work those days!

    Any other silver linings?   I fully acknowledge that it will be an awful experience overall, but I want to appreciate any not-completely-horrible parts, too. :-)

  • azdiva
    azdiva Member Posts: 201
    edited October 2009

    Am I going crazy?  I'm sure this is a se, but I didn't think I would get it so soon.  I have been getting hot flashes at all hours of the day and night.  Sure, I would get a few before chemo, but my periods have been regular.  Last one started right with my first tx!

    I am living on popsicles.  I am thinking of carrying them in a cooler wherever I go.  This morning when I got out of bed - 3 popsicle wrappers on my nightstand.

    How is it possible to feel SO HOT and not have a fever?  I am almost hoping that, if this is chemopause, it will be permanent.  I do not want to go through this more than once. I suppose that would be a good thing since I am ER+/PR+.

    Still have a cold.  Still have hair.  Still want to go to the fair today.  I hope they sell popsicles.

    Love to All -

    Laura 

  • Hopbird
    Hopbird Member Posts: 387
    edited October 2009

    Meredith, sorry the class was a waste.  I hate being talked down to!   Other benefits?  Onty and I like our lack of armpit hair.  She seems to have the hairlessness in other places that I don't yet...just thinning.  Sorry, it's been a stretch for me trying to find the "goods" here!  I won't even go into relationships with friends........I find they go both ways.

    Laura, I definitely think the hot flashes could be chemo-pause.  If you were already starting to have some, it probably didn't take much to get them going.  Your doctor might be able to tell you if its a permanent thing.  I'm taking Abraxane, and the information I was given says the chemopause is probably permanent if I'm over 40.  Ok........50th birthday in a couple of months, so I think this should do it for me.

  • snuziq
    snuziq Member Posts: 107
    edited October 2009

    Juanelle - I'm not sure anyone answered your question about the 2nd week after chemo treatment.   For the one treatment I've had, days 3-5 were bad, but I bounced back and ran around like normal.  I have been tired the last several days, but that could be the fall allergies or the marching band competitions the last two weeks! 

    ReneeJean - are you ready for tomorrow?   I have started the steroids and am ready to spend the morning with my husband.  Here's hoping we both have good days following!

    I haven't done the wig thing yet, but Sunday my husband shaved my hair down to a "3" and I have worn scarves to work this week.   I can't remember who said it but makeup is definately the way to pull this off!  I look more like a pirate with out lipstick than with! I also think earrings help.

  • azdiva
    azdiva Member Posts: 201
    edited October 2009

    Meredith - On my FB page we started a discussion called "Positive Aspects to my Cancer Diagnosis"  (yes, morbid, but also fun).  Here's a few to try out - (1) Free food and drinks in bars ("Hey! I have cancer" is usually good for a few of anything!); (2) Always winning an argument (any statement followed by "and I have cancer!" is a hands-down winner); (3) No housework (I can't do laundry/cook/clean etc., because I have cancer!); and (4) I need to go shopping (Nothing fits me anymore because I have cancer!)

    On a more somber note - they started the November 2009 thread today.  I popped in to say hi.  So sad and angry to know that more of us are starting this journey.  Maybe the chemopause is making me emotional too, because I cried a little when I saw it.

    Laura 

  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited October 2009

    azdiva - I tried playing the cancer card with my daughter ("Would you run to the store and get me Snickers because-I-have-cancer?")  She countered with "Oh yeah?  Well, my MOM has cancer!"  Dang these smart kids!

    Another "benefit" - no bad hair days for a year!  I can't do scarves because my opposable thumbs refuse to work when faced with material.  The wigs aren't so bad - I get the monofilament kind with the mesh cap.  They're relatively cool and very real looking.

    I'm day 12 past my first chemo and waiting for hairfall.


    E

  • MarieK
    MarieK Member Posts: 911
    edited October 2009

    I just want to say thanks!  I come here everyday and sure enough I get a laugh and that helps me get through the day.

    Meredith - I got a one on one too for my chemo class and the nurse gave me the white cell soldier line and the sex talk too - is it scripted?  I wonder...

    azdiva - I play the cancer card too for fun - just with my family so far - but I never thought I would do this!  I pulled out the little handbook I got after my mastectomy and showed my husband and kids where it said that I am not to vacuum or iron post surgery.  I even wrote in the word EVER there so I can at least benefit from all this!

    enjoyful - I loved your daughter's reply!  I have to say that I am enjoying the no bad hair days too and shopping for new lipsticks & tops to match my many wigs!

    I just ordered another one online.  What do you think?

    Pretty soon I'll have one for every day of the week!

    Anyone else finding their head itchy?  It's not the wigs because I find them quite comfortable.  When I'm not wearing the wig (at home) I can't help but pet and scratch my head!

    My hair was shaved to about 1/4" (sorry I don't know what # that is on the buzzer) last Friday and I swear that parts of it are growing and that's making it itch or maybe it's the falling out that's making it itch? 

    I tried shampooing with Head & Shoulders these last 2 days but it didn't seem to help.  I'm going to spray with the apple cider vinegar today and see if that helps.  If you have any other remedies for itchy head please let me know.

    Good luck to ReneeJean and Snuziq with your chemo tomorrow!

    Have a great day everyone!

  • Hopbird
    Hopbird Member Posts: 387
    edited October 2009

    MarieK...mine itched quite a bit right before and during the falling out.  My falling out has slowed down...(not as much to go)...and so has the itching.  At my LGFB class they talked about having to keep it moisturized really well after the hair is gone...any rich lotion...

    Love the wig......it should look great on you!

    To those of you who are using this to torment your children...I tried.  Then my 16 year old son started curling up in a ball and whining every time I tried it.  No, he has no emotional problems, just his humor.  It did take the fun out of it for me, though! Wink

  • micheleboots
    micheleboots Member Posts: 1,993
    edited October 2009

    Enjoyful,

    Your daughter sounds like mine..My husband doesn't let me play my cancer card either....dang.  Perhaps when my hair starts to fall out it will work better.

    Marie,  Love the wig...you will be one sexy, hot, lady...Must get me one of those...not feeling so sexy hot lately...LOL

    Michele

  • unklezwifeonty
    unklezwifeonty Member Posts: 1,710
    edited October 2009

    Nice wig MarieK....

  • Hopbird
    Hopbird Member Posts: 387
    edited October 2009

    If you find out a wig makes you sexyhot let us know..........not feeling it myself, but maybe I bought the wrong one!!

  • unklezwifeonty
    unklezwifeonty Member Posts: 1,710
    edited October 2009

    Dear HopBird,

    You may need to get it properly fitted and styled to your liking..... Go get pampered at a wig salon girl.

  • snuziq
    snuziq Member Posts: 107
    edited October 2009

    Yeah, those kids are pretty smart.  Everytime I try to pull the cancer card with my eldest, he says "so, you get to dress like a pirate every day"

    A positive of losing your hair...no need to dye it to hide the gray!    Not to mention, we can choose to be a different bombshell every day - provided we have enough wigs and wraps.   I'm Grace Kelly today. Laughing

    P.S. Marie - what a fun flirty wig!

  • MarieK
    MarieK Member Posts: 911
    edited October 2009

    Snuziq that is the one colour that I don't have in my wig wardrobe - light Blonde.  I love it but I just don't think I can pull it off with my colouring!

    FYI - I fixed the itching - I took the "personal trimmer" and shaved the hair around my ears!  Those longer freshly cut hairs were poking them from behind and driving me nuts.  No more itch but now it looks like the snow plow went around both of my ears!  LOL!

  • valeriekd
    valeriekd Member Posts: 287
    edited October 2009

    Marie thats funny -I was wondering how pale my scalp would be.

    I heard taxanes are from the poisonous yew tree and cytoxan is a derivative of mustard gas BUT It may save our lives!!!!! So whats a little poison? Do not know what is in the "red devil" Adriamyacin but I skipped that bad boy cuz the #s did not convince me. 

    I also play the CA card and it does work well. I think we deserve it. Love to you all-Valerie 

  • jeanl151
    jeanl151 Member Posts: 146
    edited October 2009

    hi girls,

       I spent my morning at the hosp.  I got clearence from BS to go on with chemo.  It will start the 28th.    I went to chemo class (Val- I saw Maria). It was a one on one with a sweet girl. (I swear everyone seems so young lately).   She kept it informal and didn't lecture me. I got to ask all my questions and then she went through details of nausea meds, mouth sores and when to call doctor when things didn't seem right. 

    mrsb- I got to MGH and see Dr Erban as onc,  Dr Specht was bs.

    Hope everyone is hanging in there, Jean

  • unklezwifeonty
    unklezwifeonty Member Posts: 1,710
    edited October 2009
    Some of us will be undergoing radiation starting in March. I have started a new thread to discuss radiation related questions, concerns:

    http://community.breastcancer.org/forum/70/topic/742416?page=1#idx_1

  • txstardust
    txstardust Member Posts: 599
    edited October 2009

    Marie, I say GO FOR THE BLOND WIG!  I've got dark eyebrows, but when I put the blond wig on(the one I eventually bought), it looked sexy!  My fiance is actually looking forward to taking me out in the wig when I start wearing it.  He even asked if I would get a brunette and a redhead too - I told him that might get a bit pricey.  Y'all are right - we have to have SOME fun with this, or else it's just too depressing.

    I can't remember if anyone has experienced mouth sores yet - I'm wondering if they happen just on your cheeks, or on your tongue too?  I've started noticing sore spots on my tongue, and don't know if it's just a coincidence or if it's related to the chemo.  I'll have to start the mouth rinse I guess.  It's getting a bit uncomfortable.

    Good luck to ReneeJean and SnuziQ for your treatment tomorrow!

    Peace... 

  • unklezwifeonty
    unklezwifeonty Member Posts: 1,710
    edited October 2009

    Dear TXStarDust,

    I got mouth-sores yesterday 21 days after first chemo. A terrible case. My tongue and inside of the mouth is all coated with little bumps and the tongue is partially discolored. It hurts and burns like hell when I eat and maginc mouthwash helps. Keep using salt and/or baking soda in warm water to rinse before and after every meal to try and prevent mouth sores.

  • MeredithK02
    MeredithK02 Member Posts: 86
    edited October 2009

    Ooh, very cool-looking wig, Marie!  I'm debating whether to dye my hair platinum for Halloween (I'm going as Mia Farrow in Rosemary's Baby, I think).  I figure if it's going to fall out anyway, might as well have some fun with it!

    And txstardust, I say buy the cheap-o ebay wigs for your fiance's enjoyment.  No need to go broke making men happy! (edited to add:  Wink)

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