I'm (NOT F'*%$@#$) "OK"!

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I'm sorry, but need some ideas.....

You know how everyone who is not in your innermost circle asks you "so, your 'ok' tho, right?"

How does one answer that?

I feel i cannot find the words to condense what diagnosis and varied treatment and the PERMANENT life change that B/C brings, into one brief reply. 

All i know is to respond with "I'm fine" is a lie.....!?

What can someone who is kind enuf to inquire, handle for an answer?.... and what response is one that can reflect the 45,000 posts on this web site?????? 

Please share your "one liners".... 1)the ones you say, and 2)the ones you WISH you could say...

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  • leaf
    leaf Member Posts: 8,188
    edited October 2009

    I've seen some women say, "I'm  doing as well as can be expected." and change the subject if you don't want to go into the details.

    When I've felt very vulnerable, I've just ignored them.  I don't know if I recommend that or not.  It probably depends on the relationship you have with the person.

    I'm sure there are more clever people on this site than I; I'd like to follow this thread.

  • GramE
    GramE Member Posts: 5,056
    edited October 2009

    Couple of ones I have used or thought of using:

    -- Am I defined by ONLY having gone thru chemo, surgery and BC diagnosis (thought this,never spoke it)

    -- I have been better, I have been worse.

    -  Dont ask

    -  Do you REALLY want to know?

    -- Thanks for asking (then walk away)

  • GramE
    GramE Member Posts: 5,056
    edited October 2009

    or thought this one, but not gutsy enough to say:

    OK = Overall Krappy 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2009

    hmmm I don't know what is worse the "you're ok, right?" OR "how ARE you???"  said in a very concerned hushed voice.......

     No, I am not okay, but I am not going to pass out right in front of you either.....

    I keep hoping that "this too, shall pass" and I will be able to shrug off the identification as the woman with cancer, to the woman who is many things

  • Leah_S
    Leah_S Member Posts: 8,458
    edited October 2009

    If I think the person is asking out of concern, I usually say "Good days and bad days" and thank them for asking. The ones who just ask out of cuiriosity or because they think they have to ask I just say, "OK, thanks" since it's not really an answer. The really good friends know.

    Leah

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2009

    Leah - I completely agree - the good friends really do know!  In general, people mean well - some are not sure what to say...

  • leggo
    leggo Member Posts: 3,293
    edited October 2009

    "yes, I'm o.k. except for that CANCER thingy".

  • hollyann
    hollyann Member Posts: 2,992
    edited October 2009

    Well, I'm not ok either........And I am sick to death of people thinking WRONGLY that just because I am through surgery and treatment (which was only more surgery) that I should be my old self again.....Well, I'm sorry but IT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN!....The old me is gone for good and the new me is still tring to figure out who she is......So what do I say when someone asks?.....I just say I'm getting by or I say I can't complain cause no body wants to hear it!........Will I EVER be the same again?.....No...But I can learn to live with the new me..........Thanks for letting me vent.......Only in this sanctuary can I truly say how I feel.....

  • LittleRed
    LittleRed Member Posts: 223
    edited October 2009

    That question is right up there with something I get all the time;  "Gee...you look great..."  I'm not sure what they are expecting me to look like.  I feel like saying "Thank you, that's great 'cause I feel like s_ _t"!  (Not to mention when I look in the mirror, I am not impressed nor am I happy.)  I usually just stop at "thank you".

    I'm not sure what the best response is to your question.  People don't know what to say sometimes.  I know they don't mean to offend or put me on the spot.  They are trying to show concern.

    I usually respond something to the effect of:

    "I'm doing everything there is to be done.  I have wonderful doctors, and I have great support from my family and friends." 

    I'm not looking for sympathy, but I'm not going to lie either.  They might as well hear it straight.  If it makes them uncomfortable, well then I guess they shouldn't ask questions they don't want to hear the answers to.

  • LittleRed
    LittleRed Member Posts: 223
    edited October 2009

    gracie1:

    That's the best!!

  • GramE
    GramE Member Posts: 5,056
    edited October 2009

    Don't your just LOVE the "you look great", when you feel like you have been in the bottom of a trash dumpster?   I know each of you will relate to this.   What did I look like before if this is "great"???

    And those days when you do feel sort of great, not one single person comments... Oh well, such is this journey.    Hugs and smilies for everyone,  Nancy 

  • LittleRed
    LittleRed Member Posts: 223
    edited October 2009

    leftyAKAnancy:

    You're absolutely right - if this is an improvement over what I looked like before ...?  Oh dear...

  • Blundin2005
    Blundin2005 Member Posts: 1,167
    edited October 2009

    Well I for one like your answer.  And if it is your honest answer, even better.  I notice that you are class of 2008.  Speaking for myself, class of 2005, it took me a long time to let this question roll off my back.  Even thought they now call cancer a treatable disease, which it is like the others that kill, it is nonetheless a hard pill to swallow.  

    To say that it gets better .... well the process helps us progress and move forward.  How other people think about it becomes less and less important to me.  And when people get too close to my "button" I simply tell them the truth of how I feel.  It's their responsibility after that to deal or not deal with it.  My plate has it's own menu.  

    Come here when you reach the end of your rope because we understand more than others in most cases.  Come here and scream in anger if you need to....because it's natural.  

    I send you good thoughts, and white light, and wishes for peace in your heart ... words that fall so short for the compassion you need....but the spirit is real.  However you understand this message....know that we care about how you feel....really.

    Best wishes to all as always,

    Marilyn 

  • hollyann
    hollyann Member Posts: 2,992
    edited October 2009

    Lefty AMEN!....I get that You look great! all the time!.....This following the How are you question!.....

    A typical conversation....

    Lady at checkout.......Hi Lucy How are you doing?

    Me....OH ok I guess.....How are you?

    Lady......Oh well you look GREAT!.....

    Me....(to Lady) why thank you!.....

    Me...(to myself)....What did she think I would look like? A dog with three heads????

    Maybe she expected me to give all the gory details of how I cry at the drop of a hat, feel bloated like I'm about ot pop from constipation from all the freaking meds I take and feel over all like i just crawled out from under a rock!.......

    If this disease has taught me anything it has taugt me patience with idiots!......Although I have also found myself to be more outspoken and taking up fo rmyself more and not letting other people run all over me......

    Huge SIGH!.....I started venting again!....So sorry ......Loe oyu all.....My Breast Friends!....

  • Mouser
    Mouser Member Posts: 245
    edited October 2009

    After my mastectomy in August '08 i was depressed for months. And angry. So when people asked how i was, i said - physically fine, mentally not good. If i thought they really cared, i explained: hate being lopsided, depressed, etc.

    I know that people who haven't seen me in a while usually mean: is the cancer gone?. So when i feel up to educating, i say something like -- well, since it was invasive, there's always a chance of a recurrence, but i'm fine. I may elaborate on that, or not ... depends on the person, the circumstances, how i feel...

    But since the mastectomy, i've stopped saying i'm fine -- i'm not. i don't feel fine, i don't look fine, and it sucks.

     This is not to suggest that i don't know i'm one of the luckier ones in this club, but just to encourage others who also feel that it sucks to not pretend otherwise -- unless you want to. In which case, more power to you. Whatever works,say it.

  • GramE
    GramE Member Posts: 5,056
    edited October 2009

    My DS commented the other day, Mom, you never say "great" when I ask how you are.   I told him that pretty good is as good as I can go now.   My days of "greatness" are over.   Although the talk of grandbaby due in March is getting close to great.   Know what I mean?     

    I love the way no one here is "shy" about telling it like it is.  No hurt feelings and no chastizement (is that a real word?)   I luvs you all,   Nancy 

  • LILLY1955
    LILLY1955 Member Posts: 35
    edited October 2009

    I always say "I'm good TODAY, thanks"   Enough said

  • LILLY1955
    LILLY1955 Member Posts: 35
    edited October 2009

    dcis and idc in right breast was LESS than 1cm   Hit the wrong button.

  • CapeBretongirl
    CapeBretongirl Member Posts: 364
    edited October 2009

    The truth shall set you free, so, I'm telling it like it is. If asked, I tell the truth. I have said "I'm feeling shitty, but I sincerely appreciate you asking.Innocent That is the truth, I do appreciate people asking. I'm exhausted with putting forth, the delusion, that the whole shebang,... is sunshine & cookies, peachy keen, honkie doorie.(sp)lol The general public needs to be more enlightened, regarding cancer. I want it to be in their thoughts, not just on designated defeat cancer months.

    Maybe, just maybe, one of these days,... the next Einstein will ask me, how I am. My answer might prompt or shock, (depending upon how you look at it) that person into contributing in some way, to the demise of all cancers.

  • Analemma
    Analemma Member Posts: 1,622
    edited October 2009

    I've been pretty rough lately, so I usually say "fair."  Or sometime, "still vertical."  I'm probably the only Stage IV to answer this thread, and most of the people who ask are family, since I don't work anymore and stay home mostly.  It's hard when I remember always answering "great" or "outstanding" because I really felt that way.  But that was BC and those days are over.

  • idaho
    idaho Member Posts: 1,187
    edited October 2009

    That is like -- "you look great- are you cured?"  WTF????  My answer is and has been -"there is NO CURE for cancer - some people live longer with it than others".   When asked how I am I usually say- "changed" or "different" or " I know things now that I never wanted to know".   Tami

  • DonnaDio
    DonnaDio Member Posts: 905
    edited October 2009

    What a great thread!!!Probably cause I am at wits end and reading everyone;s posts here. is I agree to all of you!!! How  I shut people up or at least got them to see what i went thru on some level,,was taking my wig off at 2 mos! It is now 4 mos. I was wearing the wig so others would think it was all ok and not to gross them out!WELL.. it hit me one day as one more person said.. You look sooo good. That was it as i felt the anger and knowing i will never be the same Donna!!!

    NOW.. i am just me. Still trying to figure out where  my new normal is like everyone else. My joints kill me, sleep is rough and feel crappy. It is a journey and one that takes each day at a time, and try to live it the best we can. I am no where near an understanding of what is next for me as emotionally and physically i just want to feel some level of oneness and that would be good enough for me!!

    Just love how some of you worded the conversations with the Idioits!!!It is all soooo true!!!So glad i found this as it is where i need to be right now!!!!!I I did walk the Susan G. K omen race in Chicago a few weeks ago and it was awesome to be around the Sisters in Pink and be accepted as me!!!

    The fact we are here is enough to know we can get thru this together and with some level of grace..Are we cured.. oh that question just scares me, as how uninformed people really are and that is something i hope they never have to find out on, as they are goin to have a rude awakening!!! No more hiding and no more delusions.. when i am not fine,  I am not fine and not sugar coating it anymore!!!!

    Donna

  • She
    She Member Posts: 503
    edited October 2009

    My current favorite:   "Be careful what you ask me, my edit button is broken."

    Some people are genuinely concerned and simply don't know what to say, I try to answer them honestly and educate them.  Others want to share the worst possible stories.  There's a whole other group who provide you with all sorts of info on 'cures'; and then there's those who want to provide religious enlightenment. 

    Since my edit button is broken, when provoked I have no problem sticking my fingers in my ears and singing LA LA LA LA in a high shrill voice.  I may have to suffer this disease, but I sure don't have to suffer fools and idiots.

    Edited to add: When I was bald I took mooning to a whole new level.  If someone ticked me off I'd 'flip my lid' at them.  That put big tough he-men to their knees and left me ROFL.  One has to find amusement where they can when dealing with this krappy disease.

  • CapeBretongirl
    CapeBretongirl Member Posts: 364
    edited October 2009
    That's soooo true Donna!!!  I am not fine and I won't sugar coat it anymore!!!!   That's if it isn't my Dad asking.  Undecided If Dad asks I'm greatWink     xoxo Angel
  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 9,430
    edited October 2009

    This is an excellent, much-needed thread, and like Donna, I like and agree with what so many have already said. 

    I guess if someone knows me well and really cares asks how I'm doing, I'm not shy about saying something like, "I'm fine now -- as long as it doesn't come back, which is always the lingering concern."  I guess for some reason, right now I still need to share with them that the emotional battle isn't over for me yet. 

    On the other hand, when an acquaintance or someone I'm not close to asks how I'm doing or comments on how great I look, my response is pretty much along the lines of, "Thank you, I'm doing great," because unless they've had a serious illness and can truly relate to us on that level, I don't think they want to hear about our aches and pains and scars or fears, nor can they really grasp what we've been through even if we were to tell them.  I just think until you've had a serious illness yourself, there's a huge information gap that nothing we can say is going to fill, and so it probably comes across as a combination of complaining and medical jargoneese that they just won't get anyway.     Deanna

  • charmd
    charmd Member Posts: 118
    edited October 2009
    I had one idiot ask me "How are you -- surviving?"  My answer was "What's the alternative?"  I agree most people just don't know what to say.  I agree with Leah - the people who matter know, and the others are trying to be polite.  My standard response is "I can always use another prayer" and leave it at that. 
  • LittleRed
    LittleRed Member Posts: 223
    edited October 2009

    When I have heard friends in the past say, "Oh I hate turning 40" or " I can't believe I'm this old", I've always replied, "Well it beats the alternative".  It s@#$s , but I really know what that means now.  I feel like if I say that now, I will be saying too much...I don't want to say "I'm angry and scared and I don't want this disease to get me now.  Wait until I'm 100 and ready." 

  • Pamelajo
    Pamelajo Member Posts: 346
    edited October 2009

    I just say "I'm Great, how are you?"

    I've only ever had one or two people go on to complain about something trivial wrong with them.

    You don't complain about a headache or the price of gas to the chick with booblette cancer

  • SoCalLisa
    SoCalLisa Member Posts: 13,961
    edited October 2009

    I usually just say " I am here"

  • pj12
    pj12 Member Posts: 25,402
    edited October 2009

    Just attended a class reunion of my husband's (second marriage - 25 years).   I introduced myself to a female classmate of his and she said, "oh, you are _____ ______ 's trophy wife."  Wow!  There were days that would have offended the heck out of me but, given the rough last year, I found it extremely funny.  I told my husband and said maybe she was thinking of the booby prize!   For the record: I am not that much younger and he is not that rich!  

    For people who knew me and knew about the BC... I got the "but you look great" remark.  Well, I was doing my best in spite of it all.  Does anyone ever say "well, you look awful!"?  Now, that would be refreshing, if not a little disturbing.  

    I actually appreciate direct, specific questions.  Rarely does anyone ask a question that really shows actual interest.  Mostly it is "how are you doing?" and I say, "I am surviving."  There is no follow up on their part.  I'd love it if someone said you must be so scared!  I wonder what I used to say in their place?  If you haven't been there, you just don't get it!

    Pam 

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