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  • Kim_888
    Kim_888 Member Posts: 61
    edited October 2009

    Hi,

    I'd like to hear from anyone who is integrating acupuncture into their treatment plans.   I did a search and found a few of you who mention starting acupuncture, but not much by way of the outcome.

    Although it is not covered by my insurance, I do get a 25% discount from preferred providers. I was pleasantly surprised to find quite a few acupuncturists in a 40 mile radius of my home.   Considering I now live in a relatively rural area of PA, this was a surprise.

    The pain I feel in my chest is absolutely horrific.  On a scale of 1-10, it is never less than a 7 and that's with Oxycontin, Oxycodone and Ibuprofen.    I'm willing to try anything to alleviate the pain symptoms and eliminate or scale back on the narcotics.  

    Any feedback would be greatly appreciate!

    Thanks in advance!

    Best wishes to you all!

    Sincerely,

    Kim Smile

  • seagan
    seagan Member Posts: 166
    edited October 2009

    Hi, Kim.  I've been receiving acupuncture treatments regularly since I started Tamoxifen in late June (and would have started earlier, esp. leading up to surgery and afterward, if I had known how helpful it would be!).  I went for help with three primary things:  hot flashes, trouble sleeping, and a sort of constant nervousness that was wearing me out.  For the first couple of months, I went twice a week, and now go once/week.

    In terms of outcomes:  I have definitely noticed a difference with the hot flashes (I only notice them once or twice a day now, and they're very mild and manageable), and this is turn has helped with my sleep, as I think it's the flashes that wake me up.  Now, it's true that this could also just be my body just getting used to the Tamoxifen (I've read of other women who have hot flashes and other SEs initially but then these go away after the first few months).  Who knows for sure.

    The biggest thing I've noticed, though, is just how deeply acupuncture relaxes me, at least during the treatment and for some hours afterward.  And while I'm agnostic about the whole meridians and qi stuff, I figure that even if it's just giving me some deep relaxation, that's an invaluable benefit (though I do hope it's strengthening my qi and overall health as well!).

    One last thing, as it sounds like pain is the main thing you're seeking relief from:  I've had killer headaches the last week as I'm going off coffee (caffeine withdrawal -- agh!).  Anyway, at my last appointment, I told my acupuncturist I had a huge headache, and she said, "Oh, I think we can do something about that."  And sure enough, with just two needles on my left hand and wrist, the pain lifted.  It was really amazing.  Didn't make it go away altogether, but it became much more manageable and I could finally relax again.  About 10 years ago, I went to a different acupuncturist for chronic headaches specifically, and it helped me quite a bit with pain then, too.

    Hope that helps, and I also help you're feeling better soon!

  • Kim_888
    Kim_888 Member Posts: 61
    edited October 2009

    Thank you for the information! 

     Seagan, did you, or Ivorymom-your sister, develop any infections from the needle sites?

  • seagan
    seagan Member Posts: 166
    edited October 2009

    No, not at all.  The needles are quite thin and are not inserted deeply.  I've rarely even had any bleeding, and those times it stopped almost immediately.  If the prospect of infection worries you, though, you could put Neosporin or similar on the needle sites right after treatment.  Someone suggested that to me when I was concerned about being treated on the side where lymph nodes had been removed.

  • gailian
    gailian Member Posts: 11
    edited October 2009

    To be extra safe, make sure you see the needles come out of a package before being inserted, ensuring that they are new needles.   Also all areas to receive a needle would be wiped with an alcohol cotton ball.  Acupunture is wonderful,   I'm sure you will find it helpful (I did.)

  • pitanga
    pitanga Member Posts: 596
    edited October 2009

    Kim,

    I just started acupuncture earlier this week to help with pain I have been having from bursitis in my shoulder.

    So far it hasnt noticeably helped that, BUT I do not seem to feel as depressed as I was. For something like two months I have been soooo down about being stage 4. It started after I finished radiation for the metastasis in my C-spine-- seemed like that was the end of pro-active tx, all they are offering me now is Arimidex. Heidi's rapid downward spiral started around then and that affected me a lot too. She was dx'd stage 4 around the same time as me and we had chatted a bit on the stage 4 boards. I really feel like I have lost a friend. But since starting the acupunture I have not been as teary as I was.

    The acupuncturist told me that he can also treat me for the cancer itself using acupuncture with moxibustion, 3 times a week for 3 months. I have been checking online but so far the only information I have been able to find has been about acupuncture for pain relief and relaxation. I am wondering if anyone here has heard of that.

    Lisa

  • kimbrca
    kimbrca Member Posts: 2
    edited October 2009

    Wow, I had my 2nd chemo treatment Thursday and went straight to my acupuncture appt.  A wave of nausea set in during the acupuncture, but lifted slowly and rather quickly.  Amazing:  by that same night, I had no nausea at all!!!!  My doctor also tried the sancuso patch and adding fluids to my iv, so I can't say that the acupuncture was solely to blame, but I will definitely do that combination again at my next treatment!!! 

    Very relaxing and stress relieving!  I went again yesterday and he worked on energy and fatigue.  Simply amazing.  Also helps with constipation and diarrhea issues.  I can't say enough good things about acupuncture.

    Good stuff.

  • sarabhealed
    sarabhealed Member Posts: 179
    edited October 2009

    I also had good relief with accupuncture from joint pain caused by Femara. I ultimately decided to quit the drug...but the accupuncture got me through the clinical trial I was participating in...Best of luck!

  • saint
    saint Member Posts: 1,877
    edited October 2009

    I have to state the obvious--WHY do you think these therapies have lasted centuries????  I would jump at the chance (if I could afford it!) I know lots of ppl who go to the local acupuncturists & all sing their praises. Try it--if it works for you keep going! as we said on Long Island growing up,"It couldn't hoit!" LOL

    Be well & stay strong 

  • SoCalLisa
    SoCalLisa Member Posts: 13,961
    edited October 2009

    Really helped for my neuropathy...just took the edge off

  • sarabl
    sarabl Member Posts: 1
    edited October 2009

    I have incorporated acupuncture into my chemo and radiation treatments.  Thank G-d I did!  During Chemo (early March until late July), I started to have some stomach problems, so I asked my acupuncturist what I should do.  I didn't want to take any prescription drugs, because that would only add more side effects to my existing chemo side effects.  Once you start with those drugs, you have to take more drugs (of a different kind) to control the side effects of the first drugs!  Not me.  My acupuncturist told me about Chinese herbs that she prescribes. They are much more reliable than the ones people buy over the counter.  It's true that the F.D.A. doesn't regulate any of them, but I believe in the ones that she prescribed for me. 

    I have some gas problems, but never any vomiting, diarrhea or constipation.  I had gas pains before I even knew I had cancer.  In fact, I've had gas pains for decades, so the cancer didn't cause them.

    By the way, I have been under my acupuncturist's care for a few years.  I have back problems.  I do get the acupuncture treatment, also.  You can't just walk in and ask for Chinese herbs.  The treatment is very good.  I've just been amazed by the herbs, which are very legal when prescribed by a Doctor of Oriental Medicine.

    I'm lucky that my insurance pays very well for acupuncture, medical doctors, surgery, chemo, radiation and prescriptions ( I only have oneprescription. It's for cholesterol, but that's another discussion).  

  • Renrel
    Renrel Member Posts: 497
    edited October 2009

    I did accupuncture for about 5 weeks before starting Chemo and did one session during most of my 6 round of chemo.  I can't know if it was the accupuncture but I had almost no nausea and other than a serously low blood count after the first session handled the chemo very well.  Mostly I had fatigue and a slight bit of nerapathy.  My spirits were upbeat through most of it. I also found the accupuncture very very relaxing.  I also did Gi Gong with my accupucturist weekly if I could make it and a very very gentle yoga for cancer patients.  While I was at it I threw in a Reiki session and after I finished chemo I got attuned to do the Rieki myself since I had a oppportunity to do first level for just $100. I figured that was two massages, if it worked I could help myself and others for the rest of my life and if not, well I have thrown that much away on massages that did not do much for me.  It is a bit hard sometimes to accept the Reiki as a real thing but I felt better then I had felt in at least a year after I was attuned and a pain I had been having in my hip was gone for the whole day and did not hurt as much after that.  I really seem to feel something these dyas that I would assume is my energy body.  A kind of force field around my body and funny little buzzings in spots.   

  • tkone
    tkone Member Posts: 511
    edited October 2009

    Hi Kim,

    I have done acupuncture for two different things.  I did it for bone pain during chemo (it helped immensely) and I have tried it for hot flashes/night sweats and restless leg syndrome.  It did not eliminate the hot flashes, but did decrease them.

    Make sure you go to someone reputable and as someone else said, they should be using new needles that are disposed of when they are finished with them. 

    I would warn people not to think of acupuncture as an instant fix though.  It isn't like you go to acupuncture and you come out and all of your pain is gone.  It is a very gradual thing.  Also, talk to your acupuncturist each time you go in and tell them whatever issues you have going on.  If they are good, they will tell you what they can and can't do. 

    Good luck.

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