Crazy Sexy Cancer in Seattle
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Hi all, I am not on an aromatase inhibitor because my onc and endocrinologist felt it was too risky with my pancreas issue. The a/i meds can have the side effect of raising triglicerides which would raise my risk of pancreatitis to very high. I go in for labs this week and hopefully things will be good enough for me to start an aromatase inhibitor. I could do Nov or Dec for a get together. I hope you are all enjoying this perfect fall weather we are having! I have to go finish my spooky decorating outside at our driveway gate now.
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Annie - you are very fun to be working on your halloween decorations - I think this is a great week to do that - the weather is amazing!
Jeanbean, Madge24 and I met with two other fabulous women from Bainbridge that have BC and have encouraged them to join our thread. We were chatting over lunch about the lupron/ovary surgery - only women like us would find that to be a lunch topic!!!!
Annie - I did not realize that the a/i's effect the triglicerides - I told my onc. that in the past I have been concerned about heart disease as it runs in my family and she said "so I guess you would prefer tamox" and NOW I understand why she said that.
I learn so much from you guys.
Jessica - I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers on Wednesday - I'm sure you will sail through it and are looking forward to having it overwith.
Susan
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Jessica -- Good luck Wednesday! Know that you will be in my prayers and thoughts. You are strong and I am sure you will do very well with the surgery. Having experienced Swedish hospital teams, I think they will take very good care of you and be attentive. I was impressed when I was in there and I'm very picky about such things!
Peg
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Hi ladies,
I read your thread often and some day would like to make it to one of your get togethers, but I am on the other side of the mountains so I dont see that happening anytime soon.
The reason that I am chiming in here today is two things:
1. I had a complete hyterectomy, EVERYTHING gone!!!!! my onco didnt even bat an eye at it when I asked him and my gyn said it was the best decision for me....the recovery was amazingly simple for me...I had laposcopic with vaginal assist to remove the uterus...
2. Several of you have stated that you are getting ovaries removed to "avoid" tamox or an AI.....is this the indication your onco's gave you or are you just assuming you will not take one after your surgeries?? I started tamox, then Arimidex after my hyster, then back to tamox, then tried Femara....now Im back to the tamox...the AI's gave me untolerable se's, but the tamox doesnt...anyway, Im curious because I was highly er/pr+ and my onco never mentioned that I might be able to avoid hormonals if I had my ovaries removed.
I can remember which of you is in Isaaquah but there is a chance that I might be there Saturday, not sure if I will have time to meet or not as I am possibly moving my teenage grandson back to his mothers here so it might be just a quick trip....wanted to come last weekend for the salmon weekend but didnt make it
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Take care all
Jule
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Hi Jule
Always nice to hear from you. I am not considering removing my ovaries to avoid any type of hormonals. I am considering to avoid ovarian cancer. My assumption is that my onc will take me off of Tamoxifen and put me on something else once I am truly menopausal. I could be wrong though.
Heading out to the sunshine!
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Thank you for the welcome and the reply Tracy....I miss understood what some of you are saying here I think....
I dont want to avoid the hormonals either as I think it is worth the se's compared to the alternative!!!! I dont have much for se's with the tamox so was curious why everyone seemed so set on avoiding these drugs.
And Annieb is correct on the triglycerides....Arimidex didnt do it but the Femara did...
It is bright and sunny here today but a little windy....Im going to go home here in a bit and work on halloween decor
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Hi all,
it's been awhile since I popped in to see what was going on; I'm sure sorry I missed the September gathering, as I was pretty jazzed to meet so many of you during the summer <sigh> oh well...
I'm going in put my two cents' worth in on the ooph surgery conversation - I had both ovaries out cuz I had a big cyst on one that didn't resolve, and since that throws one into menopause, I'm on Femara, and have been for a year now. plus, my onc had said something about needing to have a once-a-month shot in my hip bone (!) on tamox. it's definitely raised my cholesterol levels, both LDL and HDL, and I had bad response to Lipitor, so I'm trying to control it just with diet. I'll see how I'm doing in another month or so. however, there was never any discussion of avoiding the hormone suppression therapy, with or without my ovaries. my ob-gyn was in on the discussion with my onc from the beginning, so maybe I was lucky to get both points of view without having to work at it too hard, I don't know. regardless, I'm very happy with that decision, and glad it was an option for me; I don't know if it would've been without the large cyst that was there for several months.
here's hoping everyone is well enough to enjoy the nice week. anyone know how much the Kathleen Sutton Inspirational Fund raised at the auction this last weekend?
Kalen
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Of course it is October and Breast Cancer Awareness month, so Evening Magazine was talking about a few related things. The one that caught my attention was Anton's Hair Company in Bellevue. They use your own hair to make a wig, and have it ready in a matter of hours. I'm wondering if this is the same company that we talked about over one of our dinners. What terrific results!
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I was at my 3mo appt today and the nurses were talkng about these wigs. Sounds interesting. I HATED trying to find a wig and never really got one I liked. Having a wig of my own hair would have been so much better.
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Libby -- yes this is the same company I believe we've talked about over dinner. I have a wig from Anton's made of my own hair and it's been great.
By the by, as long as we're talking about ovaries...I talked to a nurse/tech today and she was stage 3 C with ovarian cancer eleven years ago. She said she never believed she would have made it this far. She lost all her hair, eyebrows, eyelashes w/ chemo of course. Anyway, now she rows Dragon Boats with a bunch of breast cancer survivors. She works at Swedish and she looks wonderful, totally normal, the hair grew back beautifully. Anyway, I just love hearing survivor stories and wanted to share it.
Jessica -- I hope yesterday's surgeries went well and that you are recovering nicely. I've been thinking of you and keeping you in my prayers, sweet girl! Take care of yourself and please holler if you need a homemade meal, a phone call, a good book, anything.
Enjoy this beautiful evening everyone.
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Peg - I was so impressed with how your wig looks, I'm not surprised it is from Anton's. The program interviewed the two men involved and it was really impressive and touching. I want to do dragonboating this year - got on the list and am waiting for a call. Looks like great fun!
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Hello all. Hope all is well. I haven't weighed in on the ovary thing, been meaning too but well you all know.
Anyway, it's pretty much a no brainer for me as I did not want the Lupron shots just more appointments to keep track of and chemicals in my body although after chemo what can harm me??? And the ovarian cancer thing, yes it is a nasty bastard. Funny how you get to a point in your life where stuff that was once important are now spare parts. But I'm not planning more kids and even if I was I couldn't breast feed them anyway!
Jessica, I meant to get a note over to you before your surgery but well I blew that too! I hope all is well and you are doing fine. I hope to make it to the next get together.
Surgery is on Monday I am hoping no big deal!
Be well everyone.
xxo.....Tina
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I too wish I could have gotten a wig from Anton's. My GP told me about them shortly after my dx, but the cost was pretty high for me. I have met other women who have them and they are beautiful a work of art!
xxo.....Tina
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Hi Seattle sistas - another busy week of radiation.....ran into Kalen on the ferry home yesterday and saw my young (38) friend who was rushing to Swedish to meet with her surgeon while I was waiting for the boat to dock.. Peg and I might carpool to our radiation appts next week....it seems like there are WAY to many of us running around that have had or are dealing with bc.
I also ran into Kalen at the Kathleen Sutton Inspirational Fund auction in Kingston last weekend. This is a group of women that started a fund honoring their friend Kathleen who I believe died of BC. They help women in need on the Olympic Penn. cover transportation costs to appointments and cancer care in Seattle. Such a worthy cause.
Pegs wig is amazing - truly amazing, and so is Antons. I did not need a wig but went with Peg to her consult. Such a great service - it is expensive but so nice that it is available.
Peg - thanks for sharing that survivor story - I love to hear those. Dragonboating sounds like fun.
We have comcast and they are have a whole breast cancer section in there on demand area - I think under lifetime channel. I have watched a couple of them and they are interesting - one on Roseanna Arquette (her mom died of BC) and Betsey Johnson who I did not know is a survivor. This is also sponsored by breastcancer.org. My daughter has been home sick and found it channel surfing inbetween coughing fits.
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The following is my synopsis of a weekend retreat at Friday Harbor with a group of surviviors .... if some of it doesn't make sense I apologize, I had posted this on a group site on Facebook where I have been chatting with a group of gals since Jan 2008.
Where the heck did the week go??? I can't believe tomorrow is already Friday ... guess that is a good thing , looking forward to a 3 day weekend.
Last weekend's retreat was unfriggin' believable. Thirteen survivors and a couple speakers and coordinator met at the Seattle Cancer Care Alliance Friday morning, hopped in a comfy bus for a 90 minute ride north of Seattle to board a ferry boat to San Juan Island. Skies we're blue, and you could just feel that it was going to be a good weekend. We arrive in Friday Harbor, and the bed and breakfast we we're to stay out was a walk away from the boat.
Ginny and I had a very large room with separate sitting area with a gas fireplace, jetted tub, and nice little deck. We laughed as it would have been a nice place to be with a spouse !!!! The first night we we're treated to an exquisite dinner at a small restaurant that is owned and operated by the B&B owners about a half a block away. Yummy !!!! After dinner we headed back to the B&B and had a interesting discussion with the former Chaplain Debra Jarvis at Seattle Cancer Care. She is a survivor of bc herself, and has written numerous books including one entititled It's Not About the Hair. Talk about a "hoot" of a gal. It ends up that she has had a mastectomy (same surgeon as I) , did the same chemo as I (hence the title of the book you know we we're the lucky ones to not have lost hair). This woman is a riot ... I had done a power read of her book once I knew she was going to be attending the retreat. I mentioned to her that I so enjoyed her sense of humor, especially when she wrote about going to a sex shop to buy a dildo , so here we are standing and waiting for a ferry boat and she is telling me the story in person .... okay , maybe you would have had to be there, but this chaplain could probably entice me to attend a organized church !!!!! Hit the hay about midnight.
Saturday morning we we're up early and chose to attend a yoga class at 7am. Had an awesome breakfast and then had a great discussion on nutrition. Next we we're off to a art studio about a 15 min drive away and had a workshop which had us look at our own fears. This was a bit of a mental challenge for me ... I definitely prefer to live my life with my head in the sand !!!! After a pretty emotional dialogue from many, we we're now off to the other side of the island to a park that houses a lighthouse and we had a guest speaker who tracks the Orca whales that live in the waters. To listen to this woman talk about the whales was awesome .... Talk about work with a passion. Unfortunately no whales for us to see this day, although they had been there the day before. I have just looked at Jeanne Hyde's blog (she's the whale lady) and shucks the pods we're back this week. Another great dinner, this time at the B&B, salad, a variety of gourmet pizzas, and red/white wine. After dinner we we're scheduled for 45 minute massages. They brought in 4 massage therapist from the island, and may I say the gal I had was pretty darn good .... (not quite as good as my "Nancy" though). We then shared homemade icecream and toppings, and many retired to their rooms. Ginny, myself and two others ended sitting in the living room area and chatting til about 12:30 ... topic menopause and sex !!!!! One of the ladies was a psychotherapist which led to a very interesting discussion. Ginny and I we're finally back in our room and still chit-chatting til after one.
Sunday morning we skipped the yoga session and chose to take about an hour long walk around Friday Harbor. Had another great breakfast and then another discussion led by the Oncology Physical Therapist from SCCA. Next we we're on to a cooking session led by the inn keeper. We made a butternut squash soup, homemade bagels, and some delicious oatmeal cookies. Shoot, the weekend just flew by, we we're packing our bags to head back to reality by about 1pm, for myself I ended up getting home after not one but two ferry rides at about 8pm with my head spinning nothing but positive thoughts.
So this was a pilot program organized by Seattle Cancer Care Alliance (Women's Wellness Clinic) and sponsored by Safeway. Our cost was $100 which when I signed on had expected buffet type food, etc. It was not breast cancer specific, in fact one gal had received a stem cell transplant in 2008 for an extremely aggressive form of cancer. Another had lymphoma, and yet another had dealt with breast cancer as well as colon cancer. As with my Jewel friends, these women we're off the charts intriguing, and their stories amazing. The whole weekend was far beyond my expectations and of course sharing it with Ginny just added to the fun.Note: Ginny is a very good friend whom got me involved with the Breast Cancer 3 Day last year. She is a 70 yr old lady in a 20 year old mind set. She has been one of the best friends's, fellow survivor and mom figure I could possibly ask for.
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Golfer -- Thank you for sharing. Makes me want to go do it! Sounds wonderful and just the right balance of activities and topics. Good food is important to feeling well so I'm glad you didn't have buffet food! Nice to know these things are out there.
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Carol-it sounds fantastic! Count me in for next year for sure!
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Golfer....what a fabulous sounding retreat! Sounds like a MUST for next year. I, too, look forward to a get together in November as I missed the last one and have not met any of you lovely ladies. I started radiation tx last Monday, so now have one week down with six more to go. What makes me want to cry is to see how very busy the center at Providence Western WA is in Everett. They have four radiation machines and the turnover is about every 12 minutes and they are busy. And they are only one of many in the Puget Sound area. What an eye opener to how pervasive this disease is to men and women. I really had no idea. Something must be done to end this cancer spread.
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Hi Ladies, I'm checking in from my bilat mast, R ALND, and total hyst from 10/7. Let me just say the hyst is a piece of cake compared to the bilat! I am so tender, especially under the arms. There is some nerve damage on the R, I have limited sensation from the elbow up to the armpit. I have two drains, I hope to get them out this week, but will most likely be the week after. I'll get the pathology results this week. I'm starting PT next week, and Zometa and Aromasin too. TINA, I'll be thinking of you Tomorrow!
Peg, I hope your rads are still going well
Thank you for all the support and prayers!
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Jessica--glad you made it through in one piece, so to speak. hopefully the sensation will come back soon. did you have a lymph node dissection or SNB? SNB was the most painful part of my mastectomy; I'll bet a full dissection is even worse.
Carol--wow! thanks for the info about the retreat; it sounds absolutely fantastic. I think we should all plan on next year.
Susan--you're right, there are way too many of us visiting breast surgeons and oncologists. loved your comment about already contributing way too much to breast cancer this year. And how.
So I conveniently forgot that my left breast was abnormal on my initial MRI (though my ultrasound after that was OK) and that I need a follow MRI 6 months out (which is now). Well, I'm sure it will be fine. Right?
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Cheers247 -- So glad to hear from you and I'm so glad it went well!!! You have been on my mind. I know what you mean about limited sensation from the elbow up. The drains are a pain but worth the effort and before you know it, they'll be out. I wore a larger shirt that helped cover up the drain until I got it out. Are you doing the ACTIVE program at Swedish? I've been meaning to but haven't gotten around to it.
My rads are going well. The staff really make it pleasant and it's so easy and quick. Plus, free parking! It's fun being in Seattle every day and I love the ferry ride. I'm getting better at the New York Times crossword puzzle.
Hugs to all.
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Jean Bean - I'm glad you're having the MRI done -- I'm hearing it's becoming more used b/c it detects things so well, especially certain kinds of bc. I bet it will be just fine! Those docs are watching you like a hawk, sister. Every six months is what I want, too. Is it scheduled yet? Keep us posted.
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Jean, I too initially had an abnormal reading on my left breast. I ended up having an additional US on it about 9 months into this whole gig. After that diagnostic, everything looked fine. I can only hope that you will have similar positive news. As I was told, we'll keep a close check on "your remaining side".
So I've been holding off picking your brain in regards to some questions I have on reconstruction surgery. I am presently on Dr. Keith Paige's (wait til hell freezes over ... approximately 12 months out from now) list for the DIEP procedure. I've been battling a bit with GHC to get a 2nd opinion with another qualified surgeon in the area . I've received my latest letter from the Clinical Review Board which has denied a request to see either Dr. Neligan or Dr. Said at SCCA. I'm now slightly in a hold pattern waiting for word back from JoEllen (RN) at the GH Breast Centers to tell me who at GHC is approrpriate for a 2nd opinion. Any thoughts ???
Jessica, hang in there gal ... you've been tweeked literally top to bottom. Getting those doggone drains out will brighten your spirits !!! Trust me when I say, those crappy achey days will be a faint memory soon.
To Peg and Susan .... counting down the days ladies ... thinking a toast is going to be in order real soon !!!!
Get-to-gether .? .... will be heading south to AZ 20-30 Nov .... if a date other than that works for the group cool, if not Dec works for me as well.
Be well my friends, Carol
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Carol--I'm surprised your request to get a 2nd opinion by one of the plastic surgeons at SCCA was turned down since you got your treatment there. I've heard good things about Stephens in Bellevue but I don't know how much experience he has with DIEP. You might also call the BC coordinator for GH Kitsap--Anne Asher. She's been a great resource for me. Let me know if you want her phone number.
Peg and Carol--thanks for the encouraging words about the MRI. I made the mistake of taking out the old report and read the words "aggressive enhancement" referring to an area on my left breast--this freaked me out but I feel calmer now. It's scheduled for wed evening at 6pm.
Yes, Peg and Susan--I can hear the corks popping now!
Jean
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Jessica - you sound great! I hope you are still recovering well. In case this is similar - my entire left arm was numb after my last surgery but it went away in a couple of days. I think they had me strapped to the table a wee too tight. Hope you have something similar and the nerves will be back soon.
Jean - isn't it great to have friends like this thread?! So comforting to know that you are not alone - and you know that MRI's often have false info in them. Please let us know how it goes! I can't believe it has been 6 months already.
Carol - I am very interested in the next retreat- it sounds like it was an amazing event.
Hope everyone is doing well!
S
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Hi Ladies,
Jeanbean, I had a lymph node disection, approx 30 nodes removed.
The nerve damage was a result of 2 nerves in my arm being cut, they were all wrapped around lymph vessels, and needed to be cut to get all the nodes. BS says sensation "might" come back "sometime". I'll keep you posted!
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Jean ,,,, thanks for your thoughts. I initially had an appt with Dr. Stephens, then called back to his office to ask about his experience with the DIEP surgery, which he did not have. YIKES, canceled that appt, and hence got my referal to Dr. Paige. I do have Ann Asher's number from way back when ... good thought to give her a call as well. I'll continue to jump throught the hoops !!!!
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Hello all - after hearing about Carol's amazing retreat I am wondering about Harmony Hill - has anyone here been to a retreat there?
Jessica - hope the arm is feeling better and you are recovering well. Carol - I think a year is too long to be on a wait list!
JeanBean - it is 5:55pm - your appt is at 6pm so I am sending you good vibes for an all clear which is what I am sure the results will be.
I have 2 more rads to go - it has gone by really fast, but then again - it seems like it should be mid Sept. not mid October...oh well - time flies when you are having.....fun?!
S
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I'm out of the loop here, though do read daily. Here's my experience:
Harmony Hill = Pure and utter freedom from cancer. Nurture. Hours of yoga with permission to do it however you can, even in a chair. Food of the gods...local, organic, healthy but you would never guess. It tastes guilty. Walks, talks, groups, solitude, palpable spirituality, community, love. Amazing.
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APRILGIRL....I concur with everything Towhee said about Harmony Hill. My husband and I went to a one-day workshop and it was wonderful. The grounds and setting are beautiful and the labryrinth is awesome! Patti
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