Vitamin D3 Gelcaps with Soybean Oil

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Does anyone know if it okay for us estrogen+ women on Arimidex to take a Vit D3 2000 gelcap

that contains soybean oil?  I hate to throw away a good bottle of vitamin D3 because I didn't

see it contained soybean oil.  I thank you for any information.

Desny

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  • kathimdgd
    kathimdgd Member Posts: 268
    edited September 2009

    I thought we are supposed to stay away from all SOY products!! I could be wrong though,so don't quote me.

    Kathi

  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 9,430
    edited September 2009

    Desny ~  The type of soy we absolutely need to stay away from are soy isolates, which are modified (not whole soy), as found in soy protein powder and things made with soy protein, like most energy bars.  Some women have been told just to stay away from soy, period, but my medical team (which includes nutrition & integrative medicine docs) teaches that whole soy food products, like tofu, are fine in moderation.

    The other concern about soy is how contaminated with pesticides it may be.  Some women avoid all forms of soy for this reason. 

    Personally, I take a lot of supplements, and if I can find them without soy, I prefer it.  But if I happen to buy something that contains a bit of soybean oil, I don't stress over it, but maybe keep an eye out for an alternate choice in the future.

    Like everything else, we just have to look at all the often-conflicting reports and decide what we're most comfortable doing.    Deanna 

  • Desny
    Desny Member Posts: 371
    edited September 2009

    Deanna,

    Thank you for taking the time to reply to my question.  With vitamins it gets so complicated what else is mixed in them that I get totally confused.  What you said makes sense and I think your advice is great.  Thanks again.   Stay well

    Desny

  • Rosemary44
    Rosemary44 Member Posts: 2,660
    edited October 2009

    NOW sells D3 without soybean oil for your next batch.  I stay away from soybean oil and soy lecithin because of the chemical residues that remain in the finished product.

  • althea
    althea Member Posts: 1,595
    edited October 2009

    I just looked at my D3 supplements thinking I had some with soy in the gel cap.  Must've been a previous bottle.  I'm using Carlson's solar D gems and there's no soy.  I try to avoid soy mainly because it's treated quite heavily with chemicals in the US.  It's important to look for organic, non genetically modified (non GMO) soy products if you do opt for soy. 

    Also, look for supplements that say 'pharmaceutical grade' or 'tested in an FDA registered laboratory'.  Products which meet these standards are an assurance that you'll get what the label says you're getting.  Pharmaceutical grade means the company follows the same rules required by of prescription products even though these higher standards are not required of vitamin supplements.  Since D3 tends to be cod liver oil, which tends to have problems with rancidity, I feel a bit more confident taking D3 that comes from an FDA registered facility.  

  • seaotter
    seaotter Member Posts: 1,083
    edited October 2009

    I have been taking d3 in powder capsules. Seems to be working great. Does anyone know if the capsule powder is good or bad??????

    Patty

  • Rosemary44
    Rosemary44 Member Posts: 2,660
    edited October 2009

     Patty,

    D vitamins need some fat to be absorbed better.  A dry capsule is fine if you take them with a piece of chocolate.Smile  Or walnuts or something fatty.

  • billiegirl
    billiegirl Member Posts: 85
    edited October 2009

    I hadn't heard or read anything of note about Vit D3 until this week. Then I listened to a fascinating guest on Coast to Coast Am a couple of nights ago and now I find this post. Wow. Anxious to get a supply and start supplementing. The guest on the show was a Dr Holick and he has spent 30 years studying Vit D, specifically. Fascinating program. He says that vit D is actually a hormone! web site : http://www.vitamindhealth.org/

  • seaotter
    seaotter Member Posts: 1,083
    edited October 2009

    Thanks Rosemary. I LOVE chocolate and walnuts!!!! I am a big believer in d3. I forgot to take it for about a week when I started to get sick. It was then when I realized I had forgotten it. I took one pill and felt better and it all went away. I take 5000 units a day. Also try googling walnuts and what it does for hormones. VERY good for us Laughing.

    Patty

  • hrf
    hrf Member Posts: 3,225
    edited October 2009

    I just learned this week about the soy added to vitamins. I checked and found soy in my calcium/vit D/ (Kirkland brand - from Costco) and it is also in my "One a Day" women's vitamin....so I will be looking for new brands of these. I had no idea that soy is added to almost everything we eat which is scary when we try to stay away from soy or at least try to control it. Does anyone know if Miso is fine for women taking Arimidex. I think I read that it would be fine but am not sure.

  • vivre
    vivre Member Posts: 2,167
    edited October 2009

    I use drops made by Carlson's. I just put a couple of drops in my tea. Each drop is 2000 IU. It is wheat, gluten, soy and corn free. It has coconut oil as a carrier which is the best oil we can consume as it never gets rancid like other oils. One bottle lasts a long time, so it is economical too.

  • deni63
    deni63 Member Posts: 601
    edited October 2009

    I take 5000 IU of D3 everyday. My ND recommends this dosage. When I was first dx back in March, my level was in the low 30s. At least test, last month it was up at 67 - perfect! I take a small dry capsule made by Thorne. The description of the other ingredients is:

    Cellulose, Hypromellose (derived from cellulose) capsule, Vitamin E (mixed tocopherols), Leucine, Silicon Dioxide. This product is made without the preservatives commonly found in other vitamin D products

  • kal21
    kal21 Member Posts: 77
    edited May 2011

      I have asked the same ?.. i was told soy oil and lithium do NOT produce estrogen.

    Stay away from soy protein.also boron in calcium increases estrogen..Always something.

  • Ted_Hutchinson
    Ted_Hutchinson Member Posts: 14
    edited May 2011

    Most vitamin D capsules are very small so the amounts of soy oil in those that use Soy as a carrier are not great. However there are some that use Medium Chain Triglyceride oils as the carrier and because MCT is extremely stable (very unlikely to go rancid) and easily metabolised (it's used more like glucose than a fat) it's less likely to be stored. The brand I use is Country Life and they can be found with a google search from many sources. I live in the UK and find Iherb post cheapest to UK but that may not be the same evlsewhere. 

    Dr Cannell of the vitamin d council recommends the dry powder filled capsules so there is no need to worry about these. It makes sense to take them with a fat containing meal.

    There is some research showing vitamin d taken with the largest meal of the day gets the best response but I think it's best to be regular and if you have a set routine that helps you remember that is more reliable than trying to remember when you're eating out, away from home, or with company. However if you remember you've forgotten for a few days it's perfectly safe to use catchup megadoses. There is very little measurable difference between those who take vitamin D3 daily and those who take it weekly or fortnightly (providing the total amount taken is the same.

    So if 7 x 5000iu once a week =35,000iu is more convienient than 5000iu daily for 7 days =35,000iu that's fine.

    When people are gaining weight vitamin D can get locked up in fat cells and this is only released when they lose weight. So generally overweight people have low (deficiency status) circulating vitamin D levels. Vitamin D is an anti inflammatory agent and as fat cells secrete pro inflammatory cytokines the little vitamin D that is circulating in obese people gets used up fighting chronic inflammation.

    Overweight people generally require MORE vitamin D than normal weight. 1000iu per 25lbs daily is a rule of thumb to start from.

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