Starting Chemo in June 2005

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  • nosurrender
    nosurrender Member Posts: 2,019
    edited July 2005
    No one has posted since FRIDAY?!

    Ok this is an ALL POINTS BULLETIN!

    Chemo girl check in time...

    Especially those who got it this week!

    Special shout out to JoMac because we haven't heard ANYTHING from you!

    Oh please don't make me fire up the Towandamobile! Do you know how much traffic is out there this weekend?????
  • Watson
    Watson Member Posts: 1,490
    edited July 2005
    Towanda,
    I'm here. I think posts and the live chat are slow due to the holiday weekend. Have a great 4th ladies. Don't let those sparklers get too close to the wig!
  • zeamer3
    zeamer3 Member Posts: 36
    edited July 2005
    Hi Ladies!

    I just got back from having my head shaved and my wig fitted!
    It hit me pretty hard while I was in the chair, but it was fleeting and by the end my husband had me laughing about it! I'm not crazy about the wig yet, I think it looks like a wig but I didn't get any weird glances when I wore it today. I didn't realize I had such a round head! Other than a perpetual headache I feel pretty normal a week past my 1st tx. I WILL be ready, willing and able for #2!! Bring it ON!!
  • Scout
    Scout Member Posts: 76
    edited July 2005
    I'm still here too....moving slow...but I'm here!
    My sister called me last night and she and my other sisters are going in together to buy a wig for me! She said it is made out of human hair (are all wigs?) and I can take it to a good salon to have it dyed to match my hair (better save some now!)and cut.
    I went out with DD yesterday and bought a bunch of hats. Since it's soooo hot now, I figured that I would wear a hat for running errands. I also figured that after the 4th, most of the summer hats will be gone...so I have to load up now! Also, living where it's hot, I will be going through hats quickly due to sweat (yuck) and dirt.
  • JoMac
    JoMac Member Posts: 192
    edited July 2005
    Is there a hole in the bottom of the ocean you can crawl out of? If so I was just there.
    The treatment went fine and I really am no worse than after any of my othere sessions I am just so TIRED!
    I sleep often and dream huge colorful War of the Worlds type dreams.
    Very weird.
    But I am up today. I am dressed. I think I am on the mend.
    My mother came to visit for a couple of months so that will help me both emotionally and physically.
    The peonies are all gone but I have my photographs to work from when I feel better.
    No surrender I don't understand how you could have done this living alone.
    Everytime I think I am feeling hopeless I say to myself
    " Well, No surrender did it and she didn't have someone checking on her every once in a while."
    Then I feel a little bit tough again and get through another 15 minutes or so.
  • saleboat
    saleboat Member Posts: 71
    edited July 2005
    Hello everyone and Happy 4th!

    Nosurrender--thanks so much for checking in on us-- I hope I can be as helpful to the newbies as you are when I'm a year out. I just had tx #2 yesterday-- JoMac-- your bottom of the ocean analogy hits it on the head. I was saying that I weighed 500 lbs, or was covered in wet blankets, but I really felt like one of those people with the metal scuba suit and big round metal helmet. But I'm pretty much back to normal today-- did a long walk yesterday before I zonked, and again today after my neulasta shot. Really seems to work.

    And I have the shortest haircut of my life. It went easier then I thought-- and I have a new hottie blonde wig. My Sweetie/husband likes it, and no one on the street looked at me weird, so I guess I'm good to go...plus, I ordered a long red one...a moment of weakness!

    Good luck everyone!
  • JoMac
    JoMac Member Posts: 192
    edited July 2005
    Saleboat, I am so glad to hear you could go for a walk. I hope to start walking again tomorrow. I feel so much more centered after a good walk. Each of the other times I have had chemo on Weds. I have been able to walk on Sunday of that same week.
    I hope it is true this time too.
    I put on a wig today just to see if I am holding up. I looked good. But the wig came off because I can't stand the feel of it.
    I'll try again in a few days . I did get the wig cap thing and that makes it a bit less scratchy.
    I have spent most of the day watching cooking shows on T.V.
    I wish I felt good enough to do something to get my mind off everything. That will have to wait until tomorrows "possible" walk.
  • Scout
    Scout Member Posts: 76
    edited July 2005
    I'm hoping to walk soon, but first I need to get some sleep! The doctor prescribed Trazadone (50mg) 2 nights ago. The first night I slept 3 hours and last night it was 5....I am soooooo tired!
    The kids, and I, went to SAMS today and I got alot of walking in, which was nice (DD drove). I have a treadmill and I'm hoping to get back on it in a few days...sigh.
  • Analemma
    Analemma Member Posts: 1,622
    edited July 2005
    I'm here, too, but busy. DH and two sons are working on a deck for son ( four adult sons, and they're always doing major projects - houses, garages, etc. - very hands-on). I went to Jazzercise this morning wearing a do-rag. It was all I could do to keep it on, cause I sweat so much from my head. I used to come home with hair soaked after working out. Everybody there is glad to see me, it's really a nice feeling going and seeing those ladies. I'm feeling pretty good now, but a little tired. DH and I are going to spend some concentrated time sitting on the back porch listening to "A Prairie Home Companion", our Saturday night ritual. I know, we're weird.

    Everybody have a great holiday weekend, enjoy your families.
    Brenda
  • JoMac
    JoMac Member Posts: 192
    edited July 2005
    We like NPR radio on Saturday nights . I even admit to watching Lawrence Welk from time to time and I am under 50.
    Did you all just loose any respect you had for me?
  • LizFL
    LizFL Member Posts: 377
    edited July 2005
    JoMac...is the Lawrence Welk just since starting chemo?...only kidding!

    Had some nasty aches the other night, and not sleeping great, but other than that feeling good.

    Glad to see everyone checking in...should make the coach happy.

    Hope everyone has a good and safe 4th!

    Liz
  • Watson
    Watson Member Posts: 1,490
    edited July 2005
    Alright, if we're really doing a true confessions thing here....
    I'm 42 and I currently have Doris Day's top 16 hits CD in my car. My husband is 45 and his favorite singer is Jo Stafford. Talk about weirdos..........that's us!
  • RebeccaH
    RebeccaH Member Posts: 72
    edited July 2005
    Hey Gang...
    I'm starting to feel better each day. How can you feel bad when you sleep 18-20 hours a day? To answer a few questions, when I went in for the nuelasta, they did give me some much better anit-nausea meds. They gave me two, but I can only remember them giving me Kytril. I have a prescription for Emmend for the next treatment. I figure I've already hit the ocean floor, so the next treatment HAS to be better. I've been taking phenegran and Zofran (12 hr). The Zofran doesn't seem to do much. Is it just me or does the Zofran taste awful? At what point do you take advantage of the 'as needed' recommendation. I'm too scared to back off anything!

    Just wanted to pass on one of the comments from my brother-in-law.... I've been worried about your chemo 'cause I figured it would suck, but you seem to be doing better than I imagined. I told Mike that if anyone would do good with chemo it would be you since you are very strong and have such a good outlook on things. And, then decides to tell me that he's heading to the beach...he lives in Hawaii.. So, did he think I'd only make 2 trips to the bathroom to puke my guts out? May the mighty Towanda kick him in the *ss. Don't you just love people who don't have a clue what chemo is really like?

    Is anyone planning on watching any of their local fireworks? My husband has scouted out a place on a hill where we can see three or four towns shows. Hopefully, I'll feel up to going. I'm getting sick of my couch!

    Thanks for all the encouragement!
    Rebecca
  • NancyM
    NancyM Member Posts: 289
    edited July 2005
    Hey everyone...I am surfacing from the ocean floor myself. This chemo was better than the first, but I think it is because they gave me the Neulasta the next day instead of with the chemo (after I complained about my side effects). Still, I am feeling more soreness in the bones, tired and yucky everywhere else. But less nausea this time! YAY!! And I don't have a gigantic purple bruise on my arm from the big pokey thing they stuck me with.

    Where the heck is Dana?? I'm worried about her!

    NoSurrender, thanks so much for your message. I really should be grateful that I'm not doing this all alone. I am in total awe of you, everything you went through by yourself! I feel pretty sheepish for complaining in the first place, I guess I was just emotional.

    My hair is leaving me, and I, too was surprised that it made me cry. I have been expecting it, but the reality is so surreal that you just can't know what you will feel until it happens. And I have also had very vibrant, wierd dreams. I should learn to paint, I could make millions off the artwork that goes on in my head at night!

    I'm just so glad you all are on this board. It's so nice to not feel alone, and I feel sorry for those who have other types of cancer and they don't have such a nice place to go. And, they don't have a fabulous coach to help them along!
  • Rene23
    Rene23 Member Posts: 314
    edited July 2005
    After crying off and on for a few days now, I finally had my husband shave it off this afternoon. I have to tell you, I wouldn't have thought it, but it is a relief. It's still nubby (we could only find our #4 shaver head), but I have a scarf on to catch the pieces and I'm not running my hands through it constantly only to cry at all that was coming out.
    My kids both came in later to help clean up the hairy mess..They were great, told me that I was still beautiful, and helped me try on my scarves and wig.
    I have to say, I don't regret a single penny I spent on my wig.. it looks great and makes me feel a lot better about going out when I don't want be looked at.
    This was a big hurdle for me.. and I'm glad to say I do feel so much better having jumped it.
  • JoMac
    JoMac Member Posts: 192
    edited July 2005

    Yup, I'm wondering about Dana too.I took an ativan and still can't get to sleep . Weird after sleeping for three straight days.

  • LizFL
    LizFL Member Posts: 377
    edited July 2005
    Here it is at 4AM and I am wide awake! Went to sleep around 11 and woke up at 3! I too am concerned about Dana...where are you? I think maybe we should ask husbands or someone to post for us...just that we are ok if we are not up to posting?

    My hair is not coming out yet...makes me wonder if I should wait a bit longer...but then I think...what for? Might as well get it over with before dealing with clumps coming out. It does make getting ready to go out simpler when you don't have to fix your hair. I really need a trim right now, so might as well do it all. I find I am caring less about how I look and more about how I feel. I am making more time to pamper myself and use lots of moisturizer and skin lotion..that makes me feel good! I also tend to put makeup on if I'm going out. I don't wear a lot, but I find I feel better if I take a little care about my appearance..but not worry about it. Hair is just hair. Our friends and loved ones think we are beautiful no matter what and that's what feels the best! The rest of the world isn't very important to me right now.

    Liz
  • nosurrender
    nosurrender Member Posts: 2,019
    edited July 2005
    Ahh! Now I get it! I finally figured out where you all have been! I got into the TowandaSub and found all of you! And you are all doing OK- thank you for checking in!! We just need Dana and then the team is all together!

    No one else knows that this is really where chemo girls go...it is our secret. And isn't it pretty? And you know the octopus is a special protector of Chemo Girls! He has many arms that can make us chicken soup, fetch us Ginger Ale, styles our wigs, keeps annoying neighbors away, takes care of our kids, reminds us to take our meds, makes sure we rest, and gives GREAT massages!


    I'd like to be under the sea
    In an octopus' garden in the shade
    He'd let us in, knows where we've been
    In his octopus' garden in the shade

    I'd ask my friends to come and see
    An octopus' garden with me
    I'd like to be under the sea
    In an octopus' garden in the shade.

    We would be warm below the storm
    In our little hideaway beneath the waves
    Resting our head on the sea bed
    In an octopus' garden near a cave

    We would sing and dance around
    because we know we can't be found
    I'd like to be under the sea
    In an octopus' garden in the shade

    We would shout and swim about
    The coral that lies beneath the waves
    Oh what joy for every girl and boy
    Knowing they're happy and they're safe

    We would be so happy you and me
    No one there to tell us what to do
    I'd like to be under the sea
    In an octopus' garden with you.



    Keep an eye out for buried treasure!
  • Watson
    Watson Member Posts: 1,490
    edited July 2005
    Happy 4th of July eve!
    Glad to see some of you are surfacing back to the top. As for Dana, I'm going to email her and see if she's checking that. If you click on her name, her web page comes up and you can email her from that. Have any of you emailed her?
    I"m thinking she's doing okay. I"ve been reading a lot of posts from groups that have gone before us and sometimes people just need to get away from this for awhile. Either they feel lousy or just don't want't to talk about bc for a few days.
    Sally forth, ladies.
  • kimBe
    kimBe Member Posts: 101
    edited July 2005
    Feeling pretty good after #3. Glad we scaled back the party for my son and fiance yesterday-Jim and Savanna did all of the work but it was wonderful. Since I see myself as somewhat of a trailblazer for July I would like to think I can keep you ahead of the game----I have had diarrhea since Thursday, so guess my best advice is to be prepared for anything. Much better today. Chad and Sara took off for Seattle this morning and we are thinking of going to friends cabin on the Rocky Mountain Front this afternoon. Drink, drink, drink---seems like the popcicles I had during chemo helped a lot but have been thristy since-hate to guess how much water and juice I have drank. Have a happy 4th and talk to you later.

    KimB
  • Scout
    Scout Member Posts: 76
    edited July 2005

    I am still not sleeping at night and it's really effecting my outlook on life, plus I only hear 1/2 of what is said to me and I don't dare drive anywhere! My dr precribed Trazadon a few days ago. The first night I slept 3 hours after taking one pill, the second night I slept 5 hours after taking 2 of them. Last night I decided that if I get up way too early, I will take more meds....since it's ok to sleep in the morning around my house. I took 1 trazadone at 10p, another trazadone at 11, along with an ativan. I slept from 11:30 to 4:45. I then took an ativan and an ambiem and slept until 10:15. The drugs are still in my body, so I feel out of it, but hopefully I can function better this afternoon. I haven't been able to do anything around the house...I went from extreme fatigue from the chemo (along with a bad cold I can't get rid of) to not sleeping.......when will this go away???????? I don't know how much more I can take!

  • NancyM
    NancyM Member Posts: 289
    edited July 2005
    I remembered that Dana had emailed me her phone number a long time ago, so I called and left a message telling her that we are wondering if she's OK. I'll let you all know if I get a call back. I hope to hear something soon!

    I was inspired by the lyrics (thanks, Coach!) to find this poem for you all. Written by Patricia Lynn Reilly and the full version can be found in her book "Imagine a Woman in Love With Herself." This too, should be our anthem.

    Imagine a woman who believes it is right and good she is a woman.
    A woman who honors her experience and tells her stories.
    Who refuses to carry the sins of others within her body and life.

    Imagine a woman who has acknowledged the past's influence on the present.
    A woman who has walked through her past.
    Who has healed into the present.

    Imagine a woman who has access to the full range of human emotions.
    A woman who expresses her feelings clearly and directly.
    Who allows them to pass through her as gracefully as a breath.

    Imagine a woman who follows her creative impulses.
    A woman who produces original creations.
    Who refuses to color inside someone else's lines.

    Imagine a woman who authors her own life.
    A woman who trusts her inner sense of what is right for her.
    Who refuses to twist her life out of shape to meet the expectations of others.

    Imagine a woman who values the women in her life.
    A woman who sits in circles of women.
    Who is reminded of the truth about herself when she forgets.

    Imagine a woman who has grown in knowledge and love of herself.
    A woman who has vowed faithfulness to her own life and capacities.
    Who remains loyal to herself. Regardless.

    Imagine yourself as this woman.
  • JoMac
    JoMac Member Posts: 192
    edited July 2005
    I couldn't walk today. My legs just wouldn't go. Darn !
    I guess chemo number 3 got me worse than the others did.
    I mentioned Lawrence Welk a few posts ago. I must admit it is only since cancer that I seek out oldies like that.
    I think it makes me feel better to imagine the whole world could exist like a holding pattern from high school .Year book photos that never fade or get sick or old.
    A fanatasy for sure.
    I did manage some household jobs.
    Does anyone else have a runny nose?
    I have developed this along with a loose tummy.
    I am not very attractive these days. I did get a nice cheer up kiss earlier.
    Other than that this is a regular weekend around here.
    Maybe I can walk tomorrow.
    thanks for checking on Dana, Nancy .
  • MichelleB39
    MichelleB39 Member Posts: 51
    edited July 2005
    Hey everyone. I haven't been on in about a week. It's funny. You start feeling human again after chemo and I haven't checked in with everyone.

    Now that I am thinking about chemo #2, I check in. I think it is a mental thing. If I am not online reading about this awful disease and what it is doing to our bodies, then I really don't have it. Denial, right?

    I guess I have a few more days left of hair. My hair is already short, so my hairdresser talked me in to going a little shorter and said she would stop by to shave it if it started to go. I am still holding on to a glimmer of hope that I won't loose it. We can dream, right?

    I'll go back to work for the first time since chemo on Tuesday. I am afraid that my hair will go Tuesday or Wednesday. Everyone in my office has been great. One even shaved his head for me. They are all chipping in to buy me my first wig. I just need to get up the courage to face it and go to the wig store. Yuck, itchy. I bought several "Survivor" buffs from the CBS store. They are pretty comfortable.

    Dana- I sure hope you are better. I think the more chemo we get, the worse we will feel. I know I couldn't get out of bed for 3 days and the computer was the last thing I had energy for.

    I hope everyone has a great 4th!
  • Rene23
    Rene23 Member Posts: 314
    edited July 2005
    I understand the denial thing, Michelle. I find myself forgetting for long periods of time, then suddenly it all rushes back in.

    Since having my husband shave my head 2 days ago, I feel better about the hair trauma, but now the nubbies are driving me crazy! We didn't shave it too far down, I was told to be careful about nicks, so it's still about a half-inch length. It's like the hairs are dead but just sitting there! If I pull them they come right out, but they don't willing jump.. they want coaxing. And they itch! I feel like a crazy lady plucking my own head like I'm some doomed chicken! Ah, well.. I'm sure they'll all go eventually.
    One bit of success.. I went to our town parade yesterday because I wanted to see my daughter march with her dance team.. I wore my wig for the first time and no one, not even good friends knew I had it on. It made me feel a lot better about not feeling like I would have to be stared at.
    Anyway.. Happy Independence Day, Junies!
  • danahollis
    danahollis Member Posts: 161
    edited July 2005
    Happy 4TH Junies!

    Thanks for wondering about me. That's so sweet!
    Nancy... I'll call you.

    I started feeling better on Day 8... last Thursday. We went up to the cabin of my Parents-in-law on Friday. It's on the North Shore of Lake Superior. Very pretty up there... I really love it. We don't get up there enough. We just got home a few minutes ago. It's about 4 hours from where I live so it's a long car drive.

    Anyway... I feel alomost normal... only thing lacking is hair... which DH shaved off last week. I'm sure I'll feel great again by Wednesday for Chemo #3. Yuck... last Wednesday, if it was time for me to do it again, I don't think I wold have... or I would have cried through the whole thing because I would have so vividly remembered the previous week. It's a good thing I get a few great days in between to help me forget!!!!

    I think I just have to face the fact that I'm going to feel like @%&# on days 3-7 for sure and just deal with it.

    Anyway... I'm glad to see that you all are doing so well. We have a real bunch of TROOPERS here! You guys kick CANCER heiny!!!!

    HUGS!
  • LizFL
    LizFL Member Posts: 377
    edited July 2005
    Yea Dana! So good to hear from one of our main cheerleaders.

    I woke up real down deep in the pity pot this morning. Took me a while to crawl out, but I'm back to feeling positive again. Tomorrow is hair day! I decided to go pixie cut first, then do the shaving later on. No hair loss yet, but I know it's on the way. My hairdresser was very relieved that I decided to go pixie...she was getting nervous about the whole thing! I went to a wig shop today and purchased a "comfy band" which solved the creeping wig problem. It's supposed to also help keep the scratchy part of the wig off your scalp...we shall see! I saw a really cute wig in the shop...I may go back later this week and try it on. I already have three...but figure I can splurge on another one with the money I will be saving on haircuts and highlighting. I figure if I decide I'm not going to use any of the ones I have I can donate them to the ACS and not feel bad about buying them, especially since some of it will be reimbursed through insurance.

    Rationalized like a true shopper!

    Liz
  • JoMac
    JoMac Member Posts: 192
    edited July 2005
    I just had some pity tears.
    I am so much more tired than I was after #1 and #2. I got to worrying about it. I have had two naps today and various discomforts.
    My expectations have not been met this round and it has left me feeling at a loss.
    It could also be watching all the fun July 4th activities going on and being to tired to participate.
    I'm not in a great state tonight.
    Maybe tomorrow will be better?
  • kimBe
    kimBe Member Posts: 101
    edited July 2005
    Sounds like everyone had an "ok" fourth! Like you JoMac-I am very tired after #3....and maybe nauseated, maybe not, just not feeling super. Thankful for a 3 day weekend so hopefully the rest of the week will go good. Not really chatty tonight, so take care and good luck to everyone this week.
    KimB
  • NancyM
    NancyM Member Posts: 289
    edited July 2005
    I'm glad everyone seems to be doing OK (JoMac, I hope your legs are better) and that Dana resurfaced, too! Coach needed to send the sub to Lake Superior and use the octopus arms to grab her!



    I just wanted to let you all know that I am probably the only person with 2 inch long hair to get a TANGLE in the history of chemo hair fallout. I could not believe it...I was in the shower and my hair started really coming out by the handfuls. I was just feeling horrified. I couldn't even open my eyes at first to look, and my scalp was so tender that I was almost afraid to touch it. The hair just kept coming out and coming out, so I started rubbing my head to get it over with faster. Lo and behold, there was loose hair tangled with hair that would NOT come off my head...yes, with hair spewing from my head and landing everywhere, I had to get out of the shower and get scissors to remove the tangle. It's the only thing that kept me from crying today because it seemed so darn funny. And now when I touch my head through my little chemo hat it strikes me as so weird that my head feels hard! No soft hair to make it cushy!



    Today I went with my husband, brother-in-law and his girlfriend to a street fair. I was getting tired and was leaning against a tree when the girlfriend started to have a seizure. Well, everyone rushed to help her (she was OK, though) and a couple of people looked at me like I was just heartless because I barely moved from my spot. Little did they know I was practically clinging to that tree for dear life, because I was on the verge of "chemo crashing" from the heat. The humidity here is very low and boy, I was dehydrating fast even though I was drinking water the whole time. (I think some of the weird looks were due to the T shirt I was wearing...it says "FRESHLY SQUEEZED" on the chest...it's from a mammogram campaign!)



    I hope you all have a nice week ahead. Michelle, it sounds like you have wonderful coworkers!

    Oh, yeah...NoSurrender had a June birthday and didn't even mention it. TSK TSK. Bad coach! How can you not let the JUNIES know you are a born JUNIE???? You, too, BEV!

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