I need a little rant! (and question)
I'm blogging about this experience, but because my family reads the blog and worries about me, I don't want to post my new symptoms yet, so forgive my little rant. You sisters will understand.
Background: Late April or May I found a lump. I thought it was another in a long line of cysts and ignored it. When it didn't go away, i began the testing process. August 17 I was told it was likely cancer. August 27 was told it was IDC (plus LCIS and DCIS)
Trying to save the breast, I have undergone more tests to find out exactly where it is. My final one, MRI-guided core biopsy, is tomorrow.
But, over the past couple of weeks, I have felt new lumps, now up under the nipple. Hard ones, like the first IDC. The pain is getting stronger - now my right side, from chest to shoulder through the back, hurts. I have a cough that won't go away and breathing feels like there is an infection in there. I'm tired all the time.Chest x-rays were clear and MRI showed the cancer was close to chest wall but had not invaded it. So, I don't know why I have this cough, or why it hurts to take a deep breath.
My goal had been to remove cancer while saving the breast but now my goal is to GET IT OUT!!
Did anybody else feel a dramatic decline over the course of a month or so? My doctor doesn't seem to think it grows that fast and he said I had a few weeks for testing. I'm sure I'll have surgery in the next couple of weeks - I no longer believe that lumpectomy is an option for me. I'm worried that the time it will take to coordinate between my surgeon and plastic surgeon is going to be too long.
Anybody else think their cancer was suddenly growing really fast? Did anybody else have this experience with IDC?
Comments
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CoolBreeze (love that name!), I just wanted to let you know that I've read your post. It's been sitting here for more than 2 hours with no response, for which I am sorry.
I'd like to be able to say something bright and cheery to you right now -- something encouraging, uplifting. You know, like, "Don't worry -- 80% of all new lumps are benign!"; or, "There are lots of perfectly harmless things that can cause what you're describing!"
But we both know those platitudes don't work as well if someone has already been diagnosed with cancer. Plus, I really don't know how to answer your question. My own tumor was ER+ PR- like yours, but most of the rest of its characteristics were different. Basically, mine most likely was the slow-growing kind.
You are still "sitting in the waiting room" (figuratively speaking)? And, you'll be having an MRI-guided core biopsy tomorrow (Monday), to pinpoint the tumor(s) you already know are in there? Please be sure to tell everyone who will listen that you've found those other lumps, and your original lump has been growing a lot, and you are very concerned. I saw in another post that you've "hit 50." I was 55 when dx'd (now 57). Although we're not at quite as great a risk of an aggressive tumor or a recurrence, we're also less likely to be developing new lumps that are benign.
So, take that for what it's worth. Don't let anyone brush off your concerns. Tell them you won't leave, or at least you will continue annoying them, until you are satisfied with the answers you're getting. Yes, you might end up losing that breast. I chose to lose my breast, rather than hope that my compassionate and very skilled breast surgeon could get adequate margins while leaving me with enough tissue to still call it a breast. (My breasts were small in the first place.) I'm still OK with that decision, 18+ months later.
In the meantime, hugs from here....
otter
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Otter,
I was reading as your were writing.....thinking the same thing as you've stated.....that Ann's post was sitting here for two hours w/no responses.
Ann, Otter gave you excellent advice.
If you choose to have a mastectomy then that is the surgery you will have; don't let anyone talk you out of it. We have to go with what our gut tells us. Everything will be coordinated perfectly.
My little story to share: initially had lumpectomy in march 2002. Later that year lost my medical insurance. Around the middle of December 2002, I caught a cold, no big deal, right? Well, as Christmas arrived, I was feeling horrible and cancelled my plans to stay home and rest. In January 2003 I began a new job with a loud, hacking cough that just would not go away. I did not have insurance thus did not go to a doctor. I hacked it up for well more than a month, using OTC cough meds, cold meds and anything else that I thought would be useful. I swore I had serious lung mets and that I was dying. My chest felt like there were knives in there and I had difficulty breathing -- but still no doctor visit. Could not afford to go. About the middle of February the cough began to subside and did finally leave.
In April 2003 I got my new medical insurance and went to a family doctor to tell him what occured. He ordered a chest xray, among other things, and all was well.
Sometimes strange things happen and we think the worst -- it's normal to think that way because we already have cancer.
Hugs & good wishes to you.
Come back and let us know how you are -- we care!
Jelly
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I just wanted to say, after my Dx, and pre-surgery, I had the usual battery of tests. I also developed a cough, tummy pain, a sore knee..... all of which magically vanished after the tests came back clear. Don't lose sight of the amount of anxiety you are having and that many of your symptoms could be caused by that. I had no choice but to have a Mx, but also have no regrets. It is not so bad.
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CoolBreeze, my thoughts and prayers are with you.
I know that since I have received by bc dx, every little pain I have is suspicious. I haven't had a cough, but I have a pain in my lower back. I am scheduled for a PET scan soon, so I am sure it will be nothing, but the thought is still there.
There are so many things that can go wrong once diagnosed and there are many things that go right. I think the very first part of this journey is the hardest. I have had my surgery, lumpectomy, and have seen all the doctors and am now waiting for insurance to approve the PET and Oncotype DX. If all goes well, then I will not need chemo and will do 6 weeks of radiation.
I feel fortunate that my bc was found early. Mine is E/P positive, so I will take something for 5 years. I am worried about the SEs and lymphedema but will face those as they come at me.
You have been dealing with this for a while and it is not always easy. Get the information you need to make the best decision for you. This is all about you. Make the doctors and health professionals listen to you, even if you have to break down in tears and tackle them as they go out the door.
Hugs,
Juannelle
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Thanks all, for the responses. I wasn't expecting an immediate one but I'm grateful for the caring answers.
I haven't been feeling much anxiety over this, at least, not after the initial diagnosis. I repeat that so often I'm beginning to wonder if it's true!
I'm feeling a certain extent now, because I've suddently started feeling ill. I'm exhausted, really, really tired - and in some pain, and finding it hard to do anything, and I believe that is physical and not mental.
Of course, I had a few days of worry and fear after I got the news, but then I accepted it and calmed down. I'm a huge researcher and realized I had a great shot at survival - my doctor said he felt like I was at stage II and would be fine, and I believe him.
The IDC was in the right lower quadrant but we weren't sure how far the DCIS had spread. Hence (I love that word) the MRi, which showed 4 cm's of cancer in that area rather than the 2 initially found on the sonograms/mammograms. (Multicentric disease, they say) And, I got good news - LCIS often shows up in both breasts, but my left is clear. In the MRI report it still wasn't clear where exactly the cancer was located, so the radiologist recommended an MRI-guided core biopsy if breast conservation was to be considered.
And, I really did want to save my breast, badly in fact, so I asked for, and got, the new test. That test happens Monday. I've been testing since mid-August and am ready to have a plan in place.
In the interim though, I found new hardenings.
I work in a school so the cough could be some bug I picked up from the kids. I had pneumonia years ago and I have to say, my lung has never been the same, and it is in the lung that collapsed (and the side where my cancer is). I suppose it could be pressure, the cancer is near the chest wall. But, I'm concerned about the lumps that are appearing. I have no allusions they are anything but cancer and I'm thinking a mast is my fate but I hope nothing is in the lymph nodes. I guess I just wanted to know if anybody else had it grow fast. I keep hearing that cancer grows slow.
My 51st birthday was in April. I had no palpable lump then. I discovered it in late April or May - I remember because I checked my breasts out on my birthday, thinking they looked pretty fine for a 51 year old.
I remember when I found the lump (a month later) because the school year was almost over and I was just going to wait until summer to get it checked out - so whille I know the cancer cells were probably in there a few years, it really did seem to come on suddenly.
Ah, I'm rambling.
I'll let you know what the new tests show. Thanks for your kindness.
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Hi all,
Its great to see theres a place for people to chat. I'm attending hospital with my sister (44 years old) on fridayfor the results of her biopsy. She's not feeling very positive at the moment as they also took a lymph node biopsy and advised her to bring somebody sensible with her on Friday. The nurse told her her mammogram did not look good. I've to be a brick wall on Friday but can anybody point me to what I should be looking at. I'm reading up on the different stages of cancer etc but really don't know what else I should be doing] She knows I'm available 24/7 but feel I should be doing more
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Hi Low. What I advice you do is take paper and pen and write down what the doctor tells you guys. Your sister might be in shock at the news of having cancer and not be able to process the details. If you can write down what they say, even if you don't understand it enough to ask the right questions - then you can look it up later and prepare for the next meeting.
There is so much that could happen with what they tell her (including benign results) that it would be impossible to prepare you. What you should do is have the tools ready to do your own research after your meeting.
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Hi Lowlow61,
Your sister is so fortunate to have you as her advocate. Bless you.
I would suggest you ask for copies of her biopsy report including pathology report. It is standard for them to give them to you. Lots of questions will arise as time goes by and you will need to refer to them often.
Best wishes to your sister in this difficult time.
Pam
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Question for everyone: I thought that cancer could not be diagnosed for certain until the biopsy is done? Are they jumping the gun on a diagnosis for CoolBreeze?
CoolBreeze: It's hard, but don't force yourself to make any decisions until you have as many facts and tests as you can get. The more info you have, the easier it will be to decide what to do.
My lump was very fast growing, also. It turned out that a portion of what I was feeling was just inflammation caused by the tumor - the actual cancer was much smaller than what I was feeling. It's so hard to wait, though, I know. My heart goes out to you.
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Sheherd, I have had biopsies. I had a stereotactic and sonogram-guided core biopsy, which showed 2.5 cm IDC, plus other areas of DCIS, LCIS and ADH. Then I had an MRI, which showed that some of the cancer is in the medial and lateral position, measuring 4.5 cm.
Because I really wanted lumpectomy, today I had an MRI-guided core biopsy to see if that can possibly be done. However, I no longer think it can be, and my hopes for lumpectomy are fading, which is why I posted. I should know in two days.
However, it's interesting that you were feeling inflammation from your cancer - perhaps that is what I'm feeling too? Maybe it's still possible that I could save my breast.
The diagnosis you see in my sig line is confirmed - what hasn't been confirmed yet is what kind of surgery I'll have. I also will definitely need chemo and herceptin.
I was so tired yesterday that I ranted. I promised to take my son to see Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs, but didn't have the energy to take him. So, I felt worried and upset and posted here.
I have to remember to get up and out no matter how bad I physically feel. It really does do some good.On days I go to work I have a lot more energy than on days when I'm home.
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Coolbreeze, I hope you get the results you want.
As far as the cough and feeling sick - having cancer unfortunately doesn't mean we won't have other stuff going on with our health! Expecially with your history, you should go back to the doctor about that. An antibiotic or something else might be in order. Your surgeon might not be willing to operate until it's resolved, so it's important to be on top of it.
Best of luck.
Leah
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Sigh.
I got the results today - more confusion.
In the other medial quadrant is LCIS. Not cancer, but tumor markers (as you all know). I have the 4cm cancer in the 7:00 position, so lumpectomy is still possible. In the 5:00 position and possibly spread throughout the breast is LCIS.
because I still want lumpectomy (and he says it will give me an attractive result even with 4 cm tumor) Surgeon wants to schedule a "tumor board" meeting about me, and also have me see a radiation oncologist before any decisions are made.
He does not think this is going to grow in the months this is taking and he's got 30 years experience so I'll trust him. What else I'm feeling is probably inflammation and reaction from all the biopsies.
Hurry up and wait. Hurry up....and wait......
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Cool Breeze
I know I have injured myself before and did not feel pain until I saw I was bleeding. So sometimes I think when we get confirmation there is definitely something up we "feel" it more.
One thing I am sure of from my experience and my Brother in Law's experience for a different type of cancer but a biopsy of a "larger" tumor, sleeping dogs like to be left alone. Some tumors are sleeping dogs, once they are woken/poked/biopsied I think they get angry and cause us grief, or more grief. I definitely did not feel well after my biops like a general malaise and my BIL was running a fever.
Good luck in your decision process and feel well.
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The tumor board met today and suddenly it's urgent. Mastectomy as soon as possible. I need chemo - stat.
What the heck happened at that meeting? My surgeon told me just two days ago that I had plenty of time.
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My own 2 cents.....if I was told I had IDC, DCIS and LCIS I would not want to keep the breast at all and I would want it off my body as soon as possible. I had IDC and DCIS throughout the breast and I am grade 3 as well. The relief I felt after my mastectomy was worth it. I understand that the lumpectomy was very important to you, however you need to live! I don't want to be callous and say "it's just a breast" but I was only 33 when I lost mine, and you know what, I would much rather lose my breast than my life, it was the right thing to do.
I'm so sorry you have to have the mastectomy, but please take some relief in knowing it will save your life. Based on your posting it sounds very medically necessary. I wish you all the best, be strong, and I wish you all the luck in the world.
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I agree with you jilly, in the end. I wanted to save my breast IF I could do that and save my life at the same time. The surgeon thought that was possible since it appeared to be all in the same quadrant.
It's not, so I'm at peace with it having to go. I feel good that I made my desires known and did everything I could to make it happen but once I realized it can't, it's okay.
I know many woman feel differently and want to get the cancer out, but to me, it's a very real amputation - like an arm or leg. So, it was very hard to do without running out of options.
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