SEPTEMBER 2009 RADS

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  • MTG
    MTG Member Posts: 646
    edited September 2009

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  • auorarz
    auorarz Member Posts: 14
    edited September 2009

    Hi! I noticed the same thing, light blonde hairs all over my face. I googled about it and it appears to be a pretty common thing post chemo that other patients have said goes away. They liken it to a newborn's skin that often times has that downy texture. Let's think of it as being re-born getting past the traumas and starting anew.(I did however shave it off! :) Patients who also experienced this said it didn't make it come back more coarse)

  • Titan
    Titan Member Posts: 2,956
    edited September 2009

    If Betsy and Laura have hair on their face without using biotin then what is the cause?  I have never had hair on my face before...maybe it will just fall off..I think I read that somewhere here.

    I'm half way done today!  I thought I was having 33 zaps but having 32..that is what I was told today anyway...one more or less really isn't an issue!  I'm a little pink but that is to be expected..I'm just hoping to keep everything on time...my dh and I are going to the beach for a couple of days after the zaps are done.

    Chelev is going to have so much fun!    What is she says Hi to all her bald,fuzzy friends from BCO on TV? 

  • caphan
    caphan Member Posts: 23
    edited September 2009

    Elimar ~ my doctor didn't admit the heartburn has anything to do with rads.  Her favorite line is "must be attributed to stress".  The only SE she has admitted to is the fatigue.  Sometimes I feel like a hypochondriac when I address an issue with her.  I KNOW I didn't have some of these symtoms before rads and hopefully they will go away when it's over.  Hope the Prilosec is working for you.  I've been avoiding a lot of foods and taking Mylanta.  Yuk! 

  • ccbaby
    ccbaby Member Posts: 985
    edited September 2009

    I wanted to share something with you girls. When I was at radiation yesterday, they were running behind, WAY behind, like an hour and a half! While I was waiting in the dressing/waiting room, 4 other ladies came in, one right after another every half an hour waiting too and we all were there for radiation for breast cancer. We all shared our stories of surgery, chemo and now radiation among other things. (Gramof3 from here was there too!)  It was good for me to talk to other ladies that understand exactly what I am going through. When I am at work talking to clients or even when I talk to family and friends, they just don't know or understand or even can truly empathize with me.

    I had rad #18 today and I got my prescription filled for Silvadene for these nasty looking red spots all over my inner chest. I am hoping it works fast.

  • kawee
    kawee Member Posts: 324
    edited September 2009

    Thank goodness for all of you, otherwise I would be totally alone in this whole nightmare.

    When I mention to friends or even family that I am almost done with rad, they say something like, "Now see, you made it thru this whole thing just fine and now it's all over with and you're done".  No I didn't make it thru just fine, and no, it's  not over with, and no, I'm not done, not by a long shot.  All I do is just smile and nod and sometimes fight back tears.  But I'm not glad you are all going thru what I am and worse, but I'm sure glad you're there!

  • lollys
    lollys Member Posts: 205
    edited September 2009

    Nice to hear the baby fuzz will go away--and others are having some too--I am now starting with the little red spots on my chest-- boy this really follows a pattern doesnt it-- It really does help to have this site--i know what you are saying kawee--

    they said they would prescibe silvadine if the lesions opened up hope that doesnt happen --still using all kinds of lotions--also told to use cold wash cloth compresses to pull the heat out--  oh well time  to go to sleep -- another day closer to completing rads-- night night all--Laura

  • AmyIsStrong
    AmyIsStrong Member Posts: 1,755
    edited September 2009

    They told me no heat/no cold on my chest. A cool cloth sounds wonderful to pull the heat out. I am going to try it. Maybe they meant no ICE PACK (which is what I asked about) but a cool cloth is ok. I will ask again this morning. I would love that.

    #22 for me today.  Starting to get pink and a little itchy and tender. I just want the weekend to come already for a little break.  10/9 is the end date for me and I am really counting down now!

    Amy

  • elimar86861
    elimar86861 Member Posts: 7,416
    edited September 2009

    In my weekly doctor visit today, he emphatically denied that my acidy heartburn symptoms were being causd by the rads Tx.  Instead, he again mentioned "nerves," and took some blood to check for an ulcer.  Whatever.  I do not have an ulcer, but I can spare that little bit o' blood to prove him wrong.  Anyway, this all would be making me a little crazy EXCEPT for the fact that a number of you women have mentioned the same symptoms I am having.  Also, I have not read anything on the threads that this discomfort is permanent.  Thank goodness.

    I'm on #22/26, and then 7 boosts and my end date is also 10/9.   I'm worried about the boosts because my nipple is in the line of fire. So far I have no blisters and about 2 of those tiny bumps that itch.  I feel like I can get through the next 4 Tx with no problem, but wish me luck on the boosts.

  • sly20
    sly20 Member Posts: 30
    edited September 2009

    Okay ladies, I love hearing about those who are halfway through or on their last few treatments.  It helps remind me that I too will come to that time.  But, not at the rate I am going.  The last two days, my tx has been canceled because of problems with the machine not to mention the one day last week. .  I know they can't help it but AAAGGGHHHH!!!!!!   I can't get through this way.... I started two weeks ago and I have had 7 txs...

  • caphan
    caphan Member Posts: 23
    edited September 2009

    Sly20~ I too had a few cancellations because of the machine.  It really pissed me off because I just wanted to get rads over with, but believe me you will get through it.  It goes slow at first but as the txs go on you won't believe how far you've come.  Keep the faith!  I had #26 this morning, two more regular and then 5 boosts.  Last night was not good.  The area under my arm is red/purple and has begun to itch like crazy.  Every time I moved I woke up.  The doc wrote me a prescription for a hydrocorisone cream that I'm picking up soon.  It's stronger than your usual OTC cream.  I can't wait to slather it on.

    Elimar~ good luck with the boosts!  

    Chris 

  • peg119
    peg119 Member Posts: 281
    edited September 2009

    Sorry I haven't posted in so long but I tend to forget and didn't have this one on my email reminders.  I completed #22 today also.  So far just have redness on the entire breast but no breakdown.  I am only using pure aloe right after rads and before bed.  My nipple is getting red and tender so they gave me a non stick pad.  That helps keep it from rubbing when I wear my bra.  I hurt my back last week so am on a muscle relaxant at night so am actually getting more sleep than ususal.  Hard to know if the fatique is from the rads or the muscle relaxant.  I am continuing to work fulltime.  I was told yesterday that next week they will do xrays again so they can target the lumpectomy area.  This is the first I heard of that or at least the first time it registered.  I too will be glad when rads is done.  I am fortunate that I did not have to have lymph nodes and only had to have the lumpectomy twice.  Hopefully I will get through the rest of this without any worse side effects.

  • mersmom
    mersmom Member Posts: 91
    edited September 2009

    Kawee and Betsy Buzz'

    Sorry I didn't get back to your kind notes in a timely manner. I finished RADS Aug 7th. Was unbelieably tired. The 12th I went to Seattle to see onc she put me on Femara.(pain in my feet was so bad I coul not walk) Within three days I started having problems. The fatigue was back...then came the joint pain. Because I had such immediate se I was taken off of it. I am awake again and able to work and function . Tomorrow I start Arimidex. I have read many hours of posts and am now armed with supplements that most of the gals on this site have reccomended to fight se.If i would have known more earlier I might have been better prepared for all of this.

    I am going to inform my RAD dr. for my follow up I plan on encouraging here to tell women about this site.I only wish that we all lived closer to be of more help. 

    By the way Betsy (love that name...it is a happy name to me) I live in the Tri-Cities...if we are in town for a hockey game this season maybe we could meet.

  • AmyIsStrong
    AmyIsStrong Member Posts: 1,755
    edited September 2009

    Ladies - just got back from my 23rd rad. All is fine, BUT I had my weekly meeting with the rads doc, who just checks to be sure you are doing ok. So I asked him about the rad hitting my heart/lung.  Now I remember distinctly that in our consult he said that they used to hit the heart/lungs directly but now they are able to 'bend the rays' to go around those organs. That was very comforting to me and I went into rads with confidence. NOW TODAY, I ask again for clarification as it had come up in a discussion with someone recently and I wasn't totally sure how it worked. So today he says yes, some rays do definitely hit the side of the heart and part of the lung (my tumor was on the left, I guess those w/ a right side tumor would only have the lung to worry about). But that in all these tests going back to 1922 (I got quite a history lesson on the development of rads), there is no clinical evidence that the level of rads that hit our heart/lungs could have any noticeable effect, either scientifically or in quality of life.  So I asked - "So I will have scar tissue on part of my lungs? my heart?"  He says yes.  I ask how much, like 15%? He says yes, no more than 15%.

    He gave me this whole rap about how we are bombarded with radiation every day throughout our lives in the atmosphere and there is no higher risk of developing a malignancy from these rads as from anything else. And no noticeable change in lung or heart function.  Then when I said that was hard news to hear, he asked if I thought I needed counseling to deal with it!  I said no, that I just needed some time to absorb/digest this information.

    But it DID shake me up. Is this news to any of you or did everybody know this but me?

    Thanks - 

    Amy

  • elimar86861
    elimar86861 Member Posts: 7,416
    edited September 2009

    AmyIsStrong, That is NOT news to me.  You must have missed several of my posts, but I'm sending you a PM. 

  • BetsyBuzz
    BetsyBuzz Member Posts: 592
    edited September 2009

    Amy - I too did not realize the rads were hitting my lung (rt) until I confirmed it last week with my rads onc. I specifically asked him the question because of what I read on this great forum.

    Today tx#26, is my regularly scheduled meeting with my onc. I am having trouble with where they seem to be targeting my 7 boosts. It just looks all wrong to me and the boosts are suppose to start tomorrow. I even called my surgeon to verify the location of the exact surgery site. My understanding of the boost is they are suppose to target the tumor bed. The pics that they have shown me and the marker lines they drew on me on Tuesday still seem wrong. I complained in my last appointment and he expanded the target area to include an inch above my nipple. My surgery was in the upper inner quadrant and they seem to be targeting the outer lower quadrant...so it seems super strange to me. Maybe I'm missing something??? I hope to get more clarification today especially what he considers the tumor bed. I feel awful questioning the doctor.. and know the anatomy of my breast has changed since surgery..the science of the rads might not be compatible with my visual expecations...but it's my body and I have a vested interest in this process. I'm not going to let them target shoot until the correct target has been defined. The stress of all of this is REALLY getting to me.

    The onc did tell me on Tuesday to use lanolin if my nipple gets very sore. I used it last night and today it feels much better. Of course they said do not use it within 4 hours of treatment. My tissue seems to be holding up so far TG. I feel for those of you that have open sores. My dh was shocked last night after I pulled my top off, he said "wow that doesn't look like a sunburn anymore...it's a real burn." I said yes...and it feels like it too! It usually feels better in the morning after the swelling goes down TG.

    I hope everyone is doing ok..

  • elimar86861
    elimar86861 Member Posts: 7,416
    edited September 2009

    I forgot to write that NO, of course I did not have an ulcer. 

    Yesterday I asked my doc if he had any blood tests planned to monitor me.  He said, because they were only radiating a small part of the body, it would not be neccessary.  He doesn't even bother with routine blood work.  Well, today, since I had the CBC looking for my non-existent ulcer, it turned out that I was just a hair low on my WBCs.  That's the least of my worries.  It's barely low and  I should bounce right back when rads are done. 

    Did a few people say they were waking up a lot at night?  Like every hour on the hour?

  • kawee
    kawee Member Posts: 324
    edited September 2009

    Amy - I asked my Dr. a few weeks ago.  he said a small part of my lung was being radiated and it was just brushing my heart.  He said it wasn't any big deal, but it could show up on a chest x-ray and then tell them at that time about the radiation.  I knew this from reading on the internet, that when it's your left breast, this is pretty much inevitable.  It also said that years down the road there is a slight chance of heart problems, but it is rare.  Oh, well, what can you do?  Just try and not think about it. I'm just so happy I had my last full radiation today, yea!, and start my 6 boosts tomorrow.  I'll be done a week from tomorrow.

  • Titan
    Titan Member Posts: 2,956
    edited September 2009

    #18 for me today...7 reg and 7 boosts to go!

    You betcha I will be asking my rad. onc about the lung issue!  The rads are to my right breast so I don't have to worry about my heart.  I only have to worry about my heart due to the Adriamycin!  Man..I was scared there for a minute!!!

    Seriously though, IF all this stuff we have to go through actually works, our discomfort now will pay off for the future...

    Is anyone out there freaking out?  For some reason I feel lots of anxiety lately...not sure why..maybe because we are nearing the end of our treatments and will be left on our own?  I'm trying to figure out what it going on...but I can't!   I keep telling myself I must be nuts..to get on with it...and start having some fun...

  • kawee
    kawee Member Posts: 324
    edited September 2009

    Titan - I don't think we're going to be on our own for a long time.  I mean, my breast surgeon said I'd be seeing alot of her and then there's the oncologist that will be a continuous appointment, then mammograms, and I guess we even have to go back and see the rad onco.  I just wish they would all leave me alone so I can't get back to "normal"  don't look like it's going to happen.  I felt lots of anxiety at first, its been better lately, I think I'm just getting sort of use to all this "stuff".

  • MTG
    MTG Member Posts: 646
    edited September 2009

    Has anyone asked their doctor if radiation also indirectly hits the esophagus ? ( I've seen some anecdotal information and one confusing, highly technical study that says yes but it's not the same as MD confirmation. I'm happy to post or IM the references if anyone wants them. )

    Anyway, if it does hit the esophagus, this may explain the indigestion/ acid reflux since it is apparently the esophagus which closes off the stomach while digesting food. If inflamed then the esophagus may not fully close and if this happens then the contents of the stomach are shot up the esophagus when the stomach contracts during food churning, resulting in a chemical burn of the esophagus.

    Some suggestions on helping reduce indigestion and acid reflux: avoid foods and drinks that irritate your stomach, drink more water to neutralize stomach acid, sleep on your left side and prop up the head of your bed to keep stomach acid in your stomach, eat smaller meals frequently and don't lie down for three hours after you eat.

    I'm only at #6 so no SE yet but I'm reading up to be ready for anything. 

  • lollys
    lollys Member Posts: 205
    edited September 2009

    Titan --I am getting more anxious lately too--maybe the realization of all these rads going into my body--and wondering if i am ok and my tissues are ok

    Betsy--i asked my doc about boosts too --she said they would look at the ct and figure out from the biopsy and surgery where to do it--it my case she said it might be a little difficult since i had a small tumor and a mastectomy not a lumpectomy-- they try to get the area as best they can without having the rads hit too far down--and said sometimes it is a judgement call--that really freaked me out --I have an implant but it  has been smaller and deflatted since surgery so although she said it would add some protection I know it cant be much cause it is sorta flat at the top -- this is makeing me a little nervous too--I have had 18 as of today and will have 27 before boosts so I will again discuss this-- i think it is important for us to get all the info even if we have to ask many times!!!good luck and make sure you are comfortable with the location--it is enough we dont know where these rays are really hitting let alone wondering if they are in the right area-- Laura

  • Lmflynn
    Lmflynn Member Posts: 373
    edited September 2009

    #17 down today!  Glad everyone is talking about the lung issue.  I have been talking to my rad onc since the beginning b/c this is my biggest fear. He showed me my "plan"  which maps out how much of the lung / heart etc is affected.  You can ask to look at it.  He keeps telling me my asthma (that I haven't had in 7-8 years) isn't caused by radiation but by the pollen in the air.. I am not buying it.  I believe its causing inflammation that is causing the wheezing.   They do seem to down play these issues. 

    I went for acupuncture today -- has anyone done this?  It was my first time -- and while I wanted to go for shoulder pain when I told him that I was going through radiation he did a "general" health treatment on me that he said would help with healing, immune system and also calm me.  While he was putting a needle in my ear -- he said you have lower back issues -- I said how did you know -- he said the coloration of my ear!!!  Anyway, I felt great today.... while I'm itchy and I have started bleeding at the top of my chest where the skin is very thin -- I still felt really good and less fatigued. Was it the acupuncture I don't know but will try it again I think.

    Can't wait -- 8 more regular -- 5 boosts to go!! 

  • Titan
    Titan Member Posts: 2,956
    edited September 2009

    Kawee..can't thank you enough for the support... no one here is even asking me how I feel anymore,,my dh, my kids, my parents, my friends, my co-workers...I know it shouldn't be all ABOUT ME..but damn it ...it is!  I think it is the uncertainty of it all...ok..I have to see the doctor every 3months...check...feel myself up...check....freak out about evey pain..check...exercise, eat right, take calcium Vit D3...check...it's like I stare at all the vitamins..buying them..hoping they will work against a reocurrence...but everyone around me seems to think it is all OVER...but it isn't...or IS IT!  How do we do know?  We don't..and that is the freaky thing...I just want to be one of those old ladies that said I have breast cancer 40 years ago!  But you just don't know...I'm trying to get my mind around the fact that I need to LIVE NOW...maybe it just takes some time....maybe it does get better.....

    Anyway,,if any of you read this thanks for letting me rant!  Both of my kids are in college now and I'm trying to get used to the empy nest...plus breast cancer...I HATE those words...

    The thing is..I have never ever felt sick..I find the lump, had it taken out, had chemo and rads and went through everything very well...all my blood is good and physically...because of exercising and working out I have never felt better...it is the MIND thing that is so hard to control.

    Thanks for listening!

    Anyway...my DH and I are going away for a few days...going to Ocean Isle..after rads...has anyone been there?  We normally go to Hilton Head but it holds to many memories of when the kids were babies..I want to try somewhere new.!.  Plus it will be weird being with my DH alone for 5 days....too many changes!

  • BetsyBuzz
    BetsyBuzz Member Posts: 592
    edited September 2009

    Titan - yeah..I've been freaking out lately. See my earlier posts. I just got back from my last regular rad and will start boosts tomorrow. The dr. explained that they do not use the scar to target the boost but the surgical cavity. I felt much better when he said that...then tech's & nurse kept saying it was the scar they were focusing on. I know my nipple scar was for cosmetic reasons and that was the area they were focusing on. He said my surgical cavity was pretty obvious and had shifted due to surgery. He verified everything with the surgeons notes and my mammograms. He said if I didn't feel comfortable he was willing to change my plan and just add two more regular rads. He said it was very important that I feel completely comfortable with the decision. Apparently, there is a chance that the boost do not hit the entire tumor bed (a stat that all onc's have) I thought he said 15%...but don't quote me on this as we covered lots of material. The big difference was on outcome. If I decided not to have the boost...it added a 1.5% chance of re-occurrence. He thought that was a small %...I thought it sounded big. He was so cool about everything which totally reassured me, so I'm sticking to our original game plan. 

    Mtg- I specifically asked him about the rads hitting my esophagus several weeks ago. He said no since it is located much deeper in the body. It's hard for me to know whether I have residual effects from chemo that are still causing the occasional heartburn or whether it's something due to rads? The one good thing is we are almost done..so the healing will begin soon...I hope.

  • Titan
    Titan Member Posts: 2,956
    edited September 2009

    Betsy..sounds like you  are covering everything...do you think we drive the onc's nuts because of what we learn from this forum? IF so..good...Where was your tumor..close to the chest wall?  Mine was upper right breast and next to the skin..you could see it...  Your tumor was not much bigger than mine...I was 1.8...

    Maybe the heartburn is from stress...it really could be...we don't have the Zantac..etc from chemo to keep us from throwing up so it may be stress related...Rads. are much easier than chemo but there is also nothing except for creams to help us out....chemo..well..we were in a fog with all the drugs...rads...we don't have anything...which is really good..I hated being in that fog all the time......sometimes I try to think back to events of this summer and I have a hard time remembering some of them...my son's graduation, etc...it sucks..but I really can't remember all of this...I hope I had FUN!

  • BetsyBuzz
    BetsyBuzz Member Posts: 592
    edited September 2009

    Titan - it's our role to drive the onc's nuts, right? I think I'm doing a pretty good job so far. LOL My tumor was in the upper quadrant towards the middle...surgery pulled it from left to right which is what confused me. I couldn't see mine but certainly could feel it. 

    I agree about the chemo drug fog, sometimes I feel like it's still hanging on. Rads are not the same type of pain...I will never forget that chemo bone pain.. but the burn is pretty darn uncomfortable too. Anything touching my skin bugs me now a day's. I tried wearing a bra to work on Monday. By 2:00 p.m. I was almost in tears it hurt so bad, so screw the bra...I'm hanging free until this wraps up.

    Glad to hear things are going well for you...other than the freaking out stuff.

  • elimar86861
    elimar86861 Member Posts: 7,416
    edited September 2009

    I've posted before about the rads hitting 20% of my lung.  I made a little fuss about it to the doctor and he put some in some blocks so that now *only* about 12-13% of my lung is getting hit.  I have NEVER been comfortable with the "collateral damage" to my lung. There's still a LOT of room for improvement in the treatment of breast cancer, in my opinion.

    Well, maybe the acid indigestion is "stress" OR MAYBE they all go to the same Rads Convention where they practice learning how to say that very convincingly.  I'm not buying the "stress" line - no way, no how.

  • mersmom
    mersmom Member Posts: 91
    edited September 2009

    Glad to hear you ladies are asking question and driving your onc crazy.Towards the end of my RADS I had a terrible time wearing  anything. Finally found a light weight "sleeping bra". It barely held me but  it was bearable. For some reason I was told not to use ice packs until I was finished with all treatments. The two weeks after I completed RADS the burns got worse...I was told this would happen but didn't think they were serious. I did then use ice packs and it was instant relief. I do think of you going through this and am counting days with you. Hang in there.

  • MTG
    MTG Member Posts: 646
    edited September 2009

    Elimar - Don't let them get you to doubt yourself !!! I'm willing to bet that this isn't the first time that your mind or body has been under major stress. Have you noticed that the medical profession tends to use this as an explanation for anything (esp. re: women) that defies simple explanation. -from gaining weight, losing weight, headaches, missing periods, and the list goes on and on ?

    All - My rad techs came up with a BRILLIANT solution to the ink vs. tattoo issue. They've made a template. They put a flexible clear plastic 8x10 sheet over me, marked my nipple, sugical scar and all ink marks on it so that even if I lose one of the 2 very small tegaderm squares covering the 2 essential ink marks, they can fix it by using the template. Horray for two very creative ladies !!

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