SEPTEMBER 2009 RADS

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  • lollys
    lollys Member Posts: 205
    edited September 2009

    Betsy--I had implants --not the greatest idea for rads but oh -well--I also heard about shrinkage and i asked my PS what and when to expect it--first of all with implants there can also be hardening and contracting of the skin --not a good look to say the least anyway he said if it happens it is usually toward the end and after treatment has finished--I  was excited because I hadnt had any signs of it yet but when he told me that I was upset and now am waiting for it to happen(only have had 14 so far by the end of today) so in answer to your question maybe some shrinking after rads are done--guess it just keeps giving!! We have to remember why we are doing this--that is what I hang on to!!! Hope everyone has a good weekend--another week down!!! --we can all do this!!!-Laura

  • BetsyBuzz
    BetsyBuzz Member Posts: 592
    edited September 2009

    Elimar - I lost about a cup size with my lumpectomy. Now, my girls are matching again in size..but not color. What I'm afraid of is when the swelling goes down...I'll shrink further than one cup size! I don't want to even think about another surgery to make them match, just the thought makes me feel queasy. 

    Funny you asked about your esophagus that was exactly what I was fishing for with my onc. I had such damage in chemo and it's improved so much in the past 8 wks. Now it feels like I'm slipping backwards. Aargh...

    Chris- I'm so glad you can take medical leave. I feel for those dealing with fatigue who must continue working full time when they feel so exhausted. Sending you healing thoughts.

    Betsy 

  • nas14
    nas14 Member Posts: 68
    edited September 2009

    Today was #17/35 for me, the last 10 being boosts. Just this week I have started to notice some SE's. I've had trouble the last few days staying asleep at night--no pains, no weird thoughts, just wake up & can't get back to sleep for a while. I end up reading for a while, & then I'll get up for a while, & then go back to bed. Consequently, I keep pushing the snooze on the alarm when it goes off in the a.m. If it continues, I may try the Benadryl at night. I do rads at 9:45, & then I find myself needing a nap in the afternoon. Don't know whether or not it has anything to do with the rads; could be just plain laziness. The only breast issue I have so far is with my nipple. Last week it started getting really red, but only slightly tender. The rad onc prescribed Biafine, because she thought it might be starting to get infected. However, I haven't used it yet; have been using Jeans Cream since last week 3 x a day. It really is very soothing & absorbs really fast. This week when the rad onc checked me, she said the nipple looked a lot better. Doesn't look great to me, though. It's gotten a dark purple look--but still is only slightly tender. The sports bras I got that hook in the front are really soft & don't irritate me. I'm hoping that I won't have any skin breakdown like some of you are having. The one thing I've noticed is that the seat belt bothers my right breast when I'm driving, so I have to keep moving it so it doesn't hit in a tender spot.

  • dogsaver
    dogsaver Member Posts: 201
    edited September 2009

    i tried wearing an underwire bra (a few sizes larger than my normal size since still healing from lumpectomy and radiation) and boy was that a bad idea. the wire had a reaction with radiation and i had a bad red mark for a couple of days. sports bras really are best way to go. and i love the aquafor. having some radiation recall because i did 5 day radiation before chemo but no soreness or illness just redness.

  • caphan
    caphan Member Posts: 23
    edited September 2009

    Elimar and Betsy ~ I too have developed a reflux problem.  It's worse in the middle of the night and wakes me up.  I get this burning sensation in my throat.  Sometimes I "feel" the burn all day.  I haven't mentioned it to the doc because if I mention something like headache, feeling thirsty frequently, she shrugs it off and says it must be stress or something else.  Gets me crazy at times.  I know I didn't feel this way before rads!  Oh well, just wanted to vent. 

    The Biafine has been working well and the non-stick pads too.  They work great in my bra and I don't get that rubbing all day.  I haven't tried to Domeboro soak yet.  Too tired to make the solution but it's on my to-do list today!

    Got a flu shot yesterday.  Now my other arm is sore too so I have a matching set!  You gotta laugh. . . what's the alternative.  Another week down for all of us!   Be well, stay strong!

    Chris

  • BetsyBuzz
    BetsyBuzz Member Posts: 592
    edited September 2009

    Nancy - the seat belt bugs me too but I think it's a combo from healing from the port removal (left)and the rads(right). I'm a little miffed..I think my port scar is going to end up looking worst than my surgery scar, assuming I don't get tissue damage from the boosts. I have one spot on the very top of my surgery scar that's not looking real good. I'm glad the week is over, otherwise, if I would have had a rad today, I think my tissue would have opened up. It looked pretty nasty and was very sore last night.  

    Dragonfly1976 & Echosalvaje- I look forward to meeting you tomorrow. Whether any of us cross that finish line or not, it really doesn't matter, it's a good cause.

    Elimar & Chris - I agree there may be some scatter damage going on..let's just hope it's temporary.

  • MTG
    MTG Member Posts: 646
    edited September 2009

    Betsy and Mary - I was intrigued by the seat belt issue. It seems to me that it would be a VERY common problem. I recall getting a seat belt clip for my mother when she complained that it rubbed her neck and I wonder if these could be rigged in some way. I've actually emailed one of the companies that makes them and asked if they have any suggestions; I'll keep you posted. In the meantime, I noticed that there is actually a thread here on the issue. The suggestions include using a pillow (or even a teddy bear) to pad the area and keep the strap away from the breast and one slight more high tech: 

    "l82jem wrote: In addition to the pillows - take a medium sized binder clip and put it on the seatbelt just where it retracts into the car. Put the seatbelt on, pull a comfortable amount of slack, then attach the binder clip. This will hold the seatbelt slightly slack and (I assume) in the case of an accident would easily fall off. Works great for me."

    And to you two and all who are Racing for the Cure - Good luck tomorrow. And please let us know how the day goes.

  • Titan
    Titan Member Posts: 2,956
    edited September 2009

    14 out of 33 for me done...hearing about some of your side effects makes me wonder if/when I will be getting them...just watching things for now...I am having some diarhea but not sure why...I'm taking biotin to make my hair grow faster and wonder if it may be from that...also taking caltrate which I thought would stop me up some..NOT!  Not sleeping the best either ...some nights are good some aren't.  Visited my son all day at college today...what a nice time...sooo excited to see my son but now that we are home it makes me miss him that much more!  Also my appetite is RAVENOUS!  My dh is amazed!  Everyone else is done eating but I'm still "feeding"  maybe that is the cause for my "problem"....Last night my husband made a bonfire outside and make me 3 hot dogs and I ate them all...He said,,,I made you your dinner!  He seemed quite proud of that!

  • kawee
    kawee Member Posts: 324
    edited September 2009

    TITAN - Me too.  I am so hungry.  I just want to eat all the time -- not like me, either.  They told me at the rad place they don't want me to lose weight.  Well, they don't have to worry, I've gained 2 pounds. 

  • BetsyBuzz
    BetsyBuzz Member Posts: 592
    edited September 2009

    Titan and Kawee - I too had a ravenous appetite until this past week. It all of a sudden changed. It reminded me of the horrible chemo days... I can tell things are not quite right but can't really put my finger on it, but only two weeks to go and I keep telling myself... I CAN DO THIS.

    Titan - I feel fortunate that I had no real SE's to truly complain about until last week. I'm still working on getting my energy levels back to normal but feel like I am improving daily. Not in leaps and bounds like the past few weeks but slowly. Tomorrow is exactly 8 wks PFC!  On the other hand, I do feel rads tugging me backwards and have just recently begun to wonder about my blood count levels.

    ccbaby - thanks for the post on the Aug board. I will talk to my doctor next week. I'm not taking Herceptin so maybe that's why I'm not scheduled for blood tests. My med onc appointment isn't until November but I will talk with the rads onc to see what he says.

    Laura...has your blood work remained stable through rads or is it still low too? You and I were sort of neck and neck with low WBC's.

    I had a total break down today at a memorial service for a young neighbor that died of cancer. I don't know why but I just started crying in front of this group of women that I didn't even know. It was a total menopause, tamoxpause, chemopause moment. It was very sad to see her young children... plus they read the same poem read at my late husband funeral. I just got totally overwhelmed...

    MTG- I'm not sure I understand the instruction regarding the binder clip but I will play with it on Monday and let you know. Thanks.

    I better go to bed now. Good night and sweet dreams.

    Betsy

  • Titan
    Titan Member Posts: 2,956
    edited September 2009

    How low is low when it comes to the WBC?  My RBC is always a little low but my WBC has always been normal.  How do you bring up these counts? 

  • AmyIsStrong
    AmyIsStrong Member Posts: 1,755
    edited September 2009

    Titan - my alterna-doc suggested I take whey protein daily to help bring up my white counts. I never needed the Neulasta shot so maybe it worked.  You can put it in a protein shake, but I usually mixed a heaping scoop (that comes in the package) into applesauce.  I found the first day I take it after a break, it sort of sits in my stomach all day and feels gross. But after a few consecutive days, I forget all about it, my system must get used to it. I cannot prove that it helps with the WBC but I think it does.

  • lollys
    lollys Member Posts: 205
    edited September 2009

    Hi all-- very tired tonite --busy weekend and seem to be pushing myself too much --feel ok in am then keep on going but by 5 I am so done-- need to nap in order to keep going--acutally feel sick if I dont -- worrried I am pushing to much--we all need to know we are dealing with a lot and take the time to rest--I keep telling myself that but sometimes I feel i should be doing more--must take the time and know it is ok not to keep pushing too much-- 

    Betsy my WBC has stayed stable this week --was up once then down now abut the same--it is in normal limits  on the low end of borderline so doc is not concerned-- just will keep watching it--it must have been difficult for youat the memorial service --regardles of menopause, tamoxpause  etc. it is a sad and difficult situation. sorry for you and all involved--

    hope everyone has a good week without SE --stay strong all !!! Laura 

  • BetsyBuzz
    BetsyBuzz Member Posts: 592
    edited September 2009

    Titan - normal wbc range is 3.9 to 10.6 (thousands). I'm like Laura, my last test was lower than normal range but up from the worst reading. I was just curious about those that are being monitored to see if rads was effecting their counts negatively. I'm not worried, but plan to ask my dr. this week.

    We had so much fun at the Race for the Cure yesterday. The weather was fantastic. Echosalvaje...sorry we didn't connect. I sort of thought the crowd might make it hard. The crowd was awesome, maybe someday there will be a cure.

    I'm sort of dreading this week of rads. But after today, only ten more to go.

    Kawee- on this board I think you are the only one ahead of me. How is your tissue holding up? Has the fatigue gotten any better or is it still bad? Anyone else out there in the final count down?

    Betsy 

  • aris
    aris Member Posts: 124
    edited September 2009

    Hi everyone

    I am getting ready for my 8th rads treatment today. It's going by very slowly, but I'm grateful to be in the early stages of treatment for now. I was exhausted the first week, but had some good outdoor time this weekend and not a lot of errands, so I'm feeling a bit re energized. I think the exhaustion had nothing to do with the beginning of rads, but the beginning of school for my kids. Driving them around to various activities and everyone wants playdates during the beginning of the year. I was exhausted!  Anyway, I'm feeling better now.

    Sending hugs to those who are tired or having skin issues. 

    Betsy, I hadn't realized you lost your first husband. I am so sorry, I can't even imagine going through that.

    Stephanie, have you started? Hoping if you did, all is well with you.

    Oh one more thing, I am experiencing cancer fatigue. I named it myself, but I am just so so tired of cancer treatment. It feels never ending. I'm grateful for the advances in medicine, but I was diagnosed 9 months ago! It is an eternity getting treatment.

    Pam

  • kawee
    kawee Member Posts: 324
    edited September 2009

    BetsyBuzz - My tissue is holding up very well.  Only slight redness in a couple of spots.  Looks really good.

      Fatigue has gotten some better.  Don't know why.  I do rest immediately when I get home after rads for about an hour, and watch what I do, my husband is such a help.  Like Lolly said, I think just cutting back and taking time to rest if you're tired really helps.  Also just knowing I only have 10 left (4 regulars and 6 boosts) may have significance.  I know stress really contributes to fatigue.

    They are doing my sim today for the boosts. 

  • AmyIsStrong
    AmyIsStrong Member Posts: 1,755
    edited September 2009

    I have 5 regulars left and then 8 boosts.  I am doing fine so far. It has become a regular part of my daily routine. The ladies are so friendly and kind - we have become friends in a way.

    My regular rads will end next Monday and then Tues they will do the sim for the boosts and then the boosts will go from next Wed to the following Fri and I will be done on  10/9.

    Every day is one day closer!

    Hope everyone is doing well.

    Amy

  • ibjennifer125
    ibjennifer125 Member Posts: 57
    edited September 2009

    My Rads are over as of 3 weeks ago.....Silvadene was the only thing that relieved my skin, but I did hear a Dr on Fox news the other day say that studies have shown that 1-2 glasses of wine a day while in Rads will help the burning effects of radiation. This may be worth checking out. With some of us who don't drink at all 1-2 glasses of wine a day might at least kill the pain!   lol

  • ccbaby
    ccbaby Member Posts: 985
    edited September 2009

    Aris...I see that you and I were diagnosed on the same day. I know what you mean about the cancer fatigue... I am just sick of being sick...First, surgery, then chemo with Herceptin and now rads...then I will continue Herceptin till March and then in April I will have my reconstruction finished. It seems never ending.

    I go in today for rad #17 and just last week I noticed a lot of red itchy bumps in the middle of my chest. I have tried everything (except Silverdine) to help them, nothing has helped yet. I think I better get my prescription for Silverdine filled. Has anyone else had these yet?

  • elimar86861
    elimar86861 Member Posts: 7,416
    edited September 2009

    I have not gotten itchy bumps (yet) or maybe just two small ones.  I took today off from rads and my energy is doing very well after resting on the weekend.  Just transplanted some shrubs...and I mean I'm digging them out with a shovel.  Then trimmed a hedge.

    My main PROBLEM is the acid stomach and reflux.  This had been since last Weds. (#17) and it was horrible on the weekend.  I took Mylaanta before meals, as per doctor, and it barely helped at all.  Now he wants me to use OTC Prilosec.  I almost never get this problem.  O.K., the last time was 18 years ago while pregnant, so I KNOW this is from rads.  Doctor will not admit it, and wants to pin it on "stress and nerves."  Well, ya know what makes me nervous?  Feeling sick to my stomach for days and doctors who lie about it.  Now I am paranoid that my esophagus is getting some permanent damage (just like my lung.)

    My skin has not broken down, but it was getting darker and dry like leather.  Guess what?  After a bath, I rubbed off the top layer of old nasty skin right off (with my fingers, not a washcloth) and now it is soft and supple again. Maybe that seems weird but that dead skin was not falling off because I had so much aloe on there.  I wouldn't have done it if my skin was blistery.

    Hating rads as much as ever.  Maybe more.

  • Lmflynn
    Lmflynn Member Posts: 373
    edited September 2009

    #14 of 30 today.  Tomorrow is half way .. yahoo.... !  My skin is holding up except on top -- I have started to get itchy little bumps ... thought the weekend would help but got more itchy.   Using aloe and calendula like crazy.  Saw the rad onc today for weekly sit down visit -- he seems to be happy with how the skin looks -- Congrats all on the Komen .. ours in on October 3rd.  I am going with a few friends and will have special meaning this year although my mom is a survivor and I'd run in honor of her many times.

    Is anyone else having issues with wheezing and/or asthma during treatments?  My rad onc seems to think "no way"  but started with the 3rd treatment and only lets up on weekends...mmmmm seems quite coincidental. But trying to trust the process and everyone taking care of me.

    Looking forward to getting to the over half way mark.....

  • BetsyBuzz
    BetsyBuzz Member Posts: 592
    edited September 2009

    MTG- Thank you, thank you, thank you. The binder clip attached to the seat belt worked great!

    Kawee- I'm glad the fatigue isn't causing you as many problems as before. RE: redness...my boob it very red and irritated with very few red bumps. I am SO looking forward to the days when I won't be so conscious about every arm movement I make (my node area hurts the worst).

    Pam - cancer fatigue is alive & well with me too. I think I'm beginning to truly lose it...based off of what happened today. Ok..the setting...I'm at work. I have to take a pee because I'm trying to be good and drink lots of water. I walk into the restroom at the same time as this women who had b.c. about three years ago. TG it was her. While in the stall, I glance at my pants.. no shit...they are on backwards. Not my underwear...my pants!!! I say holy crap...I didn't even notice. LOL. TG I was wearing a long tunic type shirt so no one else noticed first. I proceed to take them off and then put them on correctly (they did have an elastic waistband, so at least I didn't zip them on backwards..although maybe then I would have noticed). We both finished up and she looks a me and says "are you OK?"  I said...don't you remember chemo brain? I said well I have RADS brain! I'm using any excuse I can think of...while scrambling to rush out of the restroom. OMG...I'm getting a little scared about this "new normal".

  • aris
    aris Member Posts: 124
    edited September 2009

    Betsy you made me laugh out loud! Thank you! Sorry about the skirt incident, but it is funny. I once wore a jacket on a blind date with the price tag still on and another time I had a job interview and forgot the zip up the back of my skirt.  And this was long before I had cancer treatment!

    Overall I'm trying to enjoy the early time of my rads. My husband finally asked me today (treatment #8) how my skin is doing. I can't believe it has taken him so long to ask.  He is a wonderful man, but really self obsorbed at this point. He's so so tired (or so he tells me).   If he would just sleep more, he wouldn't be tired, unlike the chemo or rads tired.

    Sorry, didn't mean to rant about my life.

    Pam

  • windshift
    windshift Member Posts: 19
    edited September 2009

    I had #19 today and I guess that means I'm 58% through ... but who's counting.  I have been so pleased with little se's but I guess the skin issue is catching up with me. It seems that I have an itch that I just can't scratch. It's sort of half way between an itch and a burn. It's basically above my breast at the breastbone. I suppose at the area where most of the sun damage has occurred.  I've put on some hydracortisone and am hoping that it stops the itch.  My husband is cracking up because I am walking around the house sneezing from hayfever and talking to myself ------ a lot. I can't find my allergy medicine which is seriously irritating me.  Maybe if I rubbed the hayfever medicine of my itch.

  • ccbaby
    ccbaby Member Posts: 985
    edited September 2009
    Elimar...I had horrible heartburn during chemo (never before then) and the only thing that helped me was Prilosec. So far, I haven't noticed any during rads, thank goodness. I keep my head turned way over to the side when I get my rads.
  • Titan
    Titan Member Posts: 2,956
    edited September 2009

    I keep my eyes closed the entire time!  Something about the machine and the green rays just freak me out!  Good thing it doesn't last long!    Hey..whatever we need to do to get through this is fine!  I had 15 of 33 today..breast feels a little like sunburn but otherwise ok.

    Did anyone take biotiin to make their hair grow faster?  I started taking it a few weeks ago and now I see some little clear hairs on MY FACE...no more biotin for me!  My DH is freaking about his wife having a hairy lip!  I have to admit that it bothered me some too!   

  • caphan
    caphan Member Posts: 23
    edited September 2009

    Had #24 this morning!  The Biafine has been working well on my skin.  The skin under my arm is the worst.  It just starts feeling gross after a few hours and then I reapply Biafine or aloe.  So far no peeling, just a clammy, then burning feel.  I'll be so glad when I can use regular deo again!  It really is the small things. . . .

    Yesterday I was so tired.  I took two naps (for a little over an hour each) before 3PM.  Then at 3:30 I went to my daughter's high school soccer game, blah, blah, blah, and by 8PM I was ready for bed.  My eyes actually burned.  I'm just amazed at how tired I get.  Still having the heartburn.  That's annoying.  I'll be so glad when this is ALL over!

    Chris

  • BetsyBuzz
    BetsyBuzz Member Posts: 592
    edited September 2009

    Titan- I've notice lots of hair on my face lately (no biotin for me)...actually all over my body. It's weird to go from no hair anywhere, to follicles popping up everywhere. I'm just so glad my eyelashes are coming back and look forward to my hair filling in. I'm looking forward to the day I don't have fuzz for hair, and my boob is not swollen and flaming. My little girl, may end up a shriveled raisin but at least it won't hurt. 

    Chris, I'm having tx # 24 today and having my sim for the boosts today. The boosts should start Friday for me. Kawee, I think you said you start then too. After today, I'm in the single digits for count down. I can hardly wait for this to wrap up.

    Betsy

  • elimar86861
    elimar86861 Member Posts: 7,416
    edited September 2009

    I see I'm not alone in the heartburn---did any of your doctors actaully admit it was a radiation side effect?  I took the Prilosec this morning, but I can't say it has helped yet. 

  • lollys
    lollys Member Posts: 205
    edited September 2009

    I have the light fuzz hair thing going on too nmy face-- Iused to get my lip and eyebrows waxed before and had some stray little hairs but now this light fuzz --very interesting_- every annoying--hope it doesnt get worse-- well i have finished 15--18 more to go--started getting those itchy little red bumps--using everything from cortaid to biafin to aloe to Sweene cream-- under arm is tan--still hungry a lot--tired in the afternoons--eyelashes still not coming back yet--had long ones before hope they come back soon--my hair is longer fuzz--8 weeks pfc--maybe a 1/4 in-- not ready to go topless yet

    wonder how Chelev is doing in NYC--cant wait to see some pics

    hang in there everyone--one day at a time--Laura 

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