AUGUST 2009 RADS

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  • LoriR
    LoriR Member Posts: 131
    edited September 2009

    Hey Kawee - thanks for the boost for me to post.  I used to say I had chemo tired during chemo but with radiation it is different - I am not tired so much as just feeling like I don't feel like doing anything.  I had #21 today and so far so good.  Only 14 more!  I can almost see the end of this road!  I am a little soar but not too bad.  I know what you mean about the emotional roller coaster - yesterday I felt great and today I am not in such a good place.  I feel fat and ugly and thinking my hair will never grow and wondering what the heck else must I have to go thru once this is done. UGH!  I know I am lucky and it could be worse I just loose sight of that sometimes!  sorry now I am ranting too.

     Chirs, cake and janet -hope your doing well

    Take care everyone we can get thru this -

  • cakeisgreat
    cakeisgreat Member Posts: 660
    edited September 2009

    LOL, hiya kawee and my other bc buddies!  Yep...I''m SO FREAKING TIRED!  And sick as you'll see I posted on another thread.  I didnt know you had an autoimmune issue?  I used to have a theory that folks who have auto immune issues wont get cancer because their bodies are already fighting themself.  But I see from the many who deal with this issue that they can get cancer too.  Suckie!

     Pain at my scar, itchies and underarm pain.  I look fine to other people but I FEEL sick :).  A little grouchy to the kiddies, but holding up.  Isnt great to be in this all together...club-like (HAR HAR HAR!)

  • WLL
    WLL Member Posts: 96
    edited September 2009

    Hello all hope everyone is GREAT!! Just wondering if any was taking antioxidants during radiation? Does anyone know about how co-pays for insurance works during radiation--do you have to pay for each session? I hope not that would be expensive.

  • kawee
    kawee Member Posts: 324
    edited September 2009

    Cake - you always make me laugh, even tho it's an extreme effort.  Thank you.

  • ChrisC433
    ChrisC433 Member Posts: 553
    edited September 2009

    Kawee, Cake, and Lori,

    I am not holding up too well.  I did not have treatment on my collarbone this past Thur and Fri becasue they were very red.  They, and my armpit peeled over the weekend.  I just got 2 more treatments on Mond and Tues on everything.  I am so sore.  I got my sim for boosts today.  They are going to do my 7 boosts on scar starting Thurs through next week to give my skin a chance to heal.  Then the last 5 days will be back to the normal rads.  I really thought my skin would hold up better.  i am in the sun a lot in the summer and go on at least 2-3 cruises to caribbean each year.  I never  burn.  I think I am catching up on all the times that I could have burned!!

    I too am very tired.  My boys keep me busy with sports so I don't have a lot of time to think about it.  When I finally do sit down..I crash!!

    Hope you are all doing well...we have about 13 left and then done!!!

    Take care and thanks for checking in on me,

    Chris

  • WLL
    WLL Member Posts: 96
    edited September 2009

    Getting ready to start radiation--any suggestions. I have heard about some lotion thats good to apply.

  • ChrisC433
    ChrisC433 Member Posts: 553
    edited September 2009

    Pure aloe vera gel (refrigerated feels great). Aquaphor was prescribed by doc.Use it often, but not within 4 hours of treatment.

    That's all I've been told, hope it helps.

    Chris

  • kawee
    kawee Member Posts: 324
    edited September 2009

    Thanks everyone for answering, was wondering about all of you.  From the very beginning I told the Dr. I don't care what happens to my breast during rad, I just don't want major fatigue.  So, guess what, my breast looks fantastic.  You can't even tell anything beens done to it.  But the fatigue -- just what I didn't want.  Me and my big mouth.  I use to really focus while I was getting rad about healing light, nothing but healthy healing light.  Now while I am getting it, I just say "whatever".  You know, "they" say whatever you resist, persists.  So I have a new M O, don't resist.  We'll see what that does. 

  • elimar86861
    elimar86861 Member Posts: 7,416
    edited September 2009

    My rads are in the late morning.  When I feel the fatigue coming on, if I can't nap, I take a B-12 tablet.  This has helped me a half a dozen times so far, so I do feel the effect is not something I am imagining.  It may not have the same effect on everyone, but it can't hurt. 

  • KarenVW
    KarenVW Member Posts: 92
    edited September 2009

    Hi everyone!  I am getting ready to start rads in October and really appreciate all your tips.

    I have very large breasts and am concerned with burning/skin issues as well as shrinkage.  I was reading that some centers have a table where you can lay in a prone position (on your stomach) versus your back.  Is anyone doing this?  If you have large breasts, how is the radiation going for you?  Any tips on what has worked to prevent SEs?

    Thanks!

  • cakeisgreat
    cakeisgreat Member Posts: 660
    edited September 2009

    Hiya KarenVW!  Large breasts were always in my dreams but never a reality (now they're lopsided and deformed which is really cool, LOL!  One is like an "A" and one is a saggy "B").  Actually...after all this I'm going right back to my surgeon and tell him to take these puppies off!  If I have to go through all this crap, I want a nice new set of boobs :)  I'm going for a "C!"  (Why i'm doing rads now is a whole other long thread that I wont bore you with Laughing)  I'm sure someone will come along and offer some help on that question.

    I am, however, on the prone position, and I think it's worked out great!  The docs say it's better to reduce hitting lungs, heart, and stuff.  Sometimes they cant do it because of tumor position, but it's worked for me.

    Hiya ChrisC!  I'm so sorry you're dealing with these terrible skin issues!  I am very fair skinned (like see-through) and burn only with no tanning, so I've had some lovely burns in my life (and a melanoma...another long story), but my skin is barely pink.  My surgeon (awesome guy!) told me that fair skinned folks do better with rads than those who tan.  (Dont worry, I have other SEs but it's nice for my skin to do something right for once, LOL!!!)  I got my sim today too.  11 more total and I'm DONE (5 boosts or 6 I think?)!

    I use Boiron's Calendula Gel which you can get at drugstore.com in 2.6 oz tubes at the suggestion of the rad onc.  I guess it's really working!   drugstore.com ships in one day btw.

    Kawee girl! I'm so glad I can make you laugh!  Hopefully I'll keep doing so, even though I dont want to cause you any more "stiches" in your side (get it?  ok lame joke).  I tend to joke a lot in life and find that I offend lots of people that dont know me well, LOL!  I belong to a large Christian church, so when I pull out my sarcasm, you can imagine how many "vinegar faces" I get, ha ha!!!  But seriously, nothing inappropriate...all PG.  I HAVE to laugh at how many contraptions and poses I've had to endure through this whole thing.  And needles, and bruises, and wires, and...okay digressing!  I'll be quiet now. SealedLaughing

  • kawee
    kawee Member Posts: 324
    edited September 2009

    Well, #22 down.  They haven't done my sim for boosts yet, says they will next week. 

    Have you read the September Rad thread, they're all doing just absolutely great!  no SE at all.  I'm over here pulling myself along the floor with my elbows, (not really, but maybe soon).  Feel better today than yesterday.  Gained two pounds, not doing ANYTHING, taking extra steriods for the Lupus thereby causing me to eat.

    Anyone been told about flu shots.  Can we?  Is our resistance low (DUH!)?

  • Hemen
    Hemen Member Posts: 33
    edited September 2009

    hey everyone

    Ditto to all on fatigue-- so different from chemo where you just felt awful all the time.  I am peeling myself off the floor some days, others I am better.  I hear you Lori about feeling like when will this end (I know it will end-- I am on # 2 of 9 boosts-- finish the total of 33 treatments next friday) and when will I look and feel myself again?? My hair is growing back but is is so so so slow--chemopause sucks and tamoxifen is next-- yeah.  Skin holding up with 100% aloe and aquaphor and a glass of red wine every night (my rads dr. printed out the red wine study for me and told me to try it!). I was told NO antioxidants during rads-- not even green tea which I love. I got my flu shot Friday on orders from oncologist and was told I would need to get the Swine flu shot as soon as it was available.

    Hang in there everyone--we are going to get through this!

    Hugs

    Helen

  • ChrisC433
    ChrisC433 Member Posts: 553
    edited September 2009

    Cake...I just ordered that gel.  I hope it is shipped quickly so I can get this healed up soon!

    Thanks!!!

    Chris

  • cakeisgreat
    cakeisgreat Member Posts: 660
    edited September 2009

    Cool, Chris!  Let me know how it goes for ya!

  • peg119
    peg119 Member Posts: 281
    edited September 2009

    I use pure aloe vera gel and put it on as soon as I am done with treatment and again before bed.  Let it air dry if at all possible.  That is all my rad/onc is recommending but said will prescribe silvadene cream if needed.  Also use a very mild soap.  No lotions before rads.

  • lemonjello
    lemonjello Member Posts: 75
    edited September 2009

    Regarding anti-oxidents...in my "welcome to radiation" booklet they say no to vitamins, period.  It explains that rads works same as chemo, kills cancer and healthy cells, and continues to do so weeks after treatment stops.  If you help the healthy cells, you may help the cancer cells to rebound.  I stop rads in Oct, and i was advised not to take any supplements until after New Year's .  So I put my supplements aside.

  • cakeisgreat
    cakeisgreat Member Posts: 660
    edited September 2009

    that's interesting lemon....my paperwork said not to take supplements separately, but that it was okay to take a multivitamin.  lovely :)

     Saw the rad onc today.  10 more days to go, woohoo!  Little itchy & irritated spot today. Also, now I look like I have a sunburn.  Figures as soon as I say my skin looks good that it would start to change!  But the doc still said my skin is holding up fairly well.  

    How about you guys?

  • kawee
    kawee Member Posts: 324
    edited September 2009

    Darn, and I was thinking about the day after rads hitting it hard with all my antioxidant "stuff".  Maybe not a good idea.  I asked the rad onc today if he had any vitamin B shots.  He said no.  My rheumatologist gives them to me and they work good.  However, he's in Beverly Hills, too far for me right now.

    The tech said she couldn't believe how well my skin was holding up.  Breast is sore tho.

    I told her only 5 more then 6 boosts and she said, "maybe only 5".  Don't they know up front.  First they said 7, then the tech said, no 6, now she says maybe 5.  What the heck? 

     CAKE, We are almost done!!!!  You're doing great with 4 kids!!  You're my new hero.

  • ccbaby
    ccbaby Member Posts: 985
    edited September 2009

    I had #15 today, so I am half-way through. I am scheduled for 25 and then 5 boosts.  I have been using calendula lotion and my skin is looking good except for right in the middle of my chest. I have a few red bumps and it itches a little. The rad said I can use hydrocortizone on it and if it gets worse, he wrote a prescription for Silverdine. I get 5 zaps because I am getting all of my lymph nodes  around the breast radiated too and it takes about 20 minutes. The rad said no antioxidants during rads and my onco said I could get the regular flu shot anytime. He was a little weary about the swine flu shot because they don't know the side effects from it yet. I am 10 weeks PFC and my WBC is still low. It is at 3,000 and the normal is 5,000-10,000.

  • kawee
    kawee Member Posts: 324
    edited September 2009

    ccbaby - I had red bumps that itched, I used the cortizone cream and it worked great!  Now there gone and I just use aquaphor.  Doing great on that!

  • WLL
    WLL Member Posts: 96
    edited September 2009

    I had my last chemo today YEAH!!!!!!!! I did ask my onocologists about taking antiox during rads and he said yes I could. So I am CONFUSED--I am going to ask the rads Dr. but I havent seen him yet. Hope everyone is dong GREAT!     Wendy

  • cakeisgreat
    cakeisgreat Member Posts: 660
    edited September 2009

    Woohoo WLL!  Congratulations on finishing your chemo!!!  My guess about antiox...no one really knows, ha ha!  I have the same issue about whether to take Tomoxifen while doing rads (my onc says yes) or wait till rads are done (my surgeon says wait).  So, I waited.  Hopefully that's the right thing.  Who knows!

  • peg119
    peg119 Member Posts: 281
    edited September 2009

    I have to agree with the who knows.  My oncologist said start tamox when I started rads.  I asked the rad/onc about it and she said that when they have you start it after rads it is so they can know which is causing side effects.  Since they both cause different side effects she said to start when my onc. said to start so that is what I did.  I am not sure it really matters in the long run.  I am still taking my multivitamin and fish oil.  I plan on asking next week when I see my rad/onc.

  • BetsyBuzz
    BetsyBuzz Member Posts: 592
    edited September 2009

    Anyone having a skin breakdown of their scar area? Yesterday, I had tx #22 of 33. It doesn't hurt but looks like a dimple with a little infection in it, it's very small. Is this the beginning of tissue breakdown? I wasn't too worried about the boosts until I saw it. They will start targeting the same area next week, so now I'm a little nervous.  

    I started tamox before rads per my surgeon, onc and rad onc. They all agreed it was better to start right away, so for me the answer was very clear.

    When I asked my rad onc re: antiox, he said no mega doses especially of Vit's E & A. They put me on Vit D and calcium prior to rads due to osteopenia. He said those were fine. He added, I could take a multivitamin if I wanted.

    Also, I'm curious as to how everyone's blood work has been going? Are your WBC & RBC being affected? I haven't had any blood work since a month out from chemo and I was still very low back then. Actually, they were both lower than when they threatened me with hospitalization (WBC 1900). I guess it wasn't as problematic at the time because I was done with chemo, so they figured my body would begin repairing itself. I just curious because of ccbaby's last post. I do feel like my RBC has improved, I can now walk up an incline without having to stop to take a breath.

  • ccbaby
    ccbaby Member Posts: 985
    edited September 2009
    Betsy...In my previous post, I mentioned that my WBC count is still low (3000) even after 10 weeks PFC. I get Herceptin every 3 weeks and my onc orders bloodwork before each treatment because of my WBC being low still. He said he wants to watch it during my rads. My other counts are great. My WBC has gradually increased about 300 every 3 weeks. You definitely need to mention it to your radiologist next time you visit and ask for a blood test. 
  • kawee
    kawee Member Posts: 324
    edited September 2009

    CCBABY - How is the Herceptin going?  The onco told me he was on the fence with me on that since mine is DCIS w/1mm microinvasion?  Said we would talk about it after radiation.  Just wondering about any SE.

    Another opinion on tamoxifen during rads, my oncologist told me there is a study which shows it prevents rads from working as well.  So many opinions, what does a person do??  Oncologist also told me not even a vitamin.  I've been dying for a diet coke too (trying to give those up).  I know if I could only have a vitamin and a diet coke, I'd feel normal again.

  • cakeisgreat
    cakeisgreat Member Posts: 660
    edited September 2009

    LOL...you're doing so good Kawee!  I've been taking a multi-vi almost every day (now I hope that's not bad!) and drinking diet coke - but not often, only with take out pizza (prob bad too, right, LOL!)  It's hopeless...

    My bs said same about tomox with rads, but my onc said "new studies" show it's okay to take w rads.  she said my bs was old school...but he's in NYC and has been practicing for a loooong time and one of the top docs in America for years, so I decided to listen to him and wait on the tamox.  hopefully i'm making the right dec. 

    I'm nervous about being Her2 or not because they said I didnt have enough tumor to test FISH, so they're not giving it to me.  I had lots of tumors though and DCIS, just all small or something like that.  I'm seeing onc about that this Fri.  LMK what you're onc says they are doing with you

     Betsy--No skin breakdown for me, but my rad onc did say it was possible as well as the shriveling like a raisin thing (if that helps).

  • kawee
    kawee Member Posts: 324
    edited September 2009

    Cake - Another thing my onco said (he's a very young Dr.) and I hear very good (???) is that they did a study in Finland and they discovered that Herceptin given once every 3 months for a year is just as good as once a month.  He said we (he) might consider that.  I've read (which really gets me confused) some studies that said Herceptin in some Her2+ breast tumors promote reoccurence.  Also I've read they shouldn't give Herceptin if you don't have chemo (which I didn't have).  I'm going to talk to him about all this when I see him end of October.  Suppose to start tamox at the end of rads (Oct. 2 - yea!!!).  I'm only slightly ER+, but I've had my ovaries removed.  So, that's another question I have.  Is that really necessary -- not looking forward to that.  Anyway, too much info, I know.  

  • cakeisgreat
    cakeisgreat Member Posts: 660
    edited September 2009

    No, this is very informative to me kawee, cuz we're kinda at the same stage, etc.  Thanks for info about Herc. I didnt do chemo either, so good to know.  Did you have ovaries removed or are you getting ovaries removed (I got confused). I was thinking after done with tomox in 5 years to remove ovaries just to be safe (I'll be 42 then).

    My onc said she was not going to give me Hercep if they couldnt get a read from the FISH test, but I'm still going to talk to her about it.  I certainly dont want to PROMOTE reoccurrence ha ha!

    Keep me posted on your Oct doctors appt.

    PS--I'm starting Tomox on Oct 2, so we'll be together in that also!  Fun fun fun!!

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