Starting Chemo in June 2005
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Liz,
We too are avid cruisers and have been on about 5 now. This will take us to the southern carribean. We have not been there yet. I love how you can do nothing at all and still have a great time! -
I'm starting chemo on June 28th....can I still join the party? Once I had the date set, I sat down one evening and read 8 pages of posts. I still am having information overload, but at least I can say I'll be prepared for my first treatment.
I had my lumpectomy and SNB on May 19th. I've spent the last month stressing over insurance and getting to know the staff of nuclear medicine. The bone and MUGA scans all came back fine. Happy dance!
FYI, I had/have IDC, 3.5 cm mass, Stage 2A, Grade 3, ER/PR and Her2 negative, and no lymph node involvemnt. It looks like I'll be doing the dose dense A/C followed by Taxol. Then, I'm blessed with radiation for 4-6 weeks. I am having a second opinion on Monday--so I don't have any regrets down the road. I'm not expecting to hear anything different, but it'll be peace of mind, nonetheless.
I am SO ready to get chemo started. This whole waiting game is driving me nuts. I want all of this to be over by Christmas!
Nosurrender--your words of wisdom are wonderful.
Dana--thanks a bunch for getting this tread going. Your details about chemo is appreciated.
Nancy--sorry I haven't responded to your second email. Glad you're posting on the boards so I can keep up with you. We're going to have to get together since we're so close to each other.
Does anyone have a case manager through their insurance? This has been the worst part of having cancer....dealing with insurance. I was told BC didn't warrant having one....only to find out that all the medical providers want the name of my case manager. Towanda emerged when I was told that a car accident with multiple injuries that were life threatening which would require lots of rehab qualified. Fortunately, I have a wonderful liaison that fought for me to get a case manager. As of last Wednesday, I have a case manager. Now, my stress is gone, and can get on with treatment! The good news...the gal who told me I couldn't have one, is now in a different office. I WILL NOT be nominating her for employee of the month!
Thanks for the great advice!
Rebecca -
Welcome, Rebecca.
I can't emphasize enough how good it is to read everyone else's accounts of their chemo treatments. It makes things a little less scary and lonely knowing we're going through it together.
I have developed (along with a full-blow period)(lucky me) a mouth sore. I have been using the Biotene toothpaste regularly, but to no avail apparently. I did call the onc's office and they called in an Rx for a topical rinse cocktail composed of - lidocaine, maalox, and benadryl. It does help the pain, but only for a short while. Hopefully I won't get any more.
I still break down every now and then.. about my hair (which I have for about one more week), about my breasts that will never match again, about the whole ball of wax in general. But then after I get it out, I go about my business and realize that things could definitely be a lot worse.. and I have to keep fighting.
Anyway.. too tired tonight. I went to a graduation party and actually danced a bit. -
Rebecca...so glad to hear that the insurance business is finally straightened out...you sure don't need the additional stress!
I'm now into some achy symptoms from the Neulasta, but not too bad.
Zeamer..what I love about cruising is that once on board all you have to do is relax and enjoy. We have cruised various places and do love the Caribbean.
Hope everyone is having a good weekend.
Liz -
You girls are sure sounding great! GOOD JOB!
For the mouth sore this is what I did and it worked for me. Take some Milk of Magnesia and apply it to the sore with a Q-Tip like you would be putting calamine lotion on poison ivy. It dries it up AND soothes it.
Remember girls to WASH YOUR HANDS! Stay away from sick people!
Towanda -
Hey.. forgot to mention that I'm a cruiser too. I've done a few with the family, and a few weekend girl trips. I'm actually a card-carrying frequent cruiser on Royal Carribbean.
THanks for the Milk of Magnesia suggestion, nosurrender. Your presence here is so wonderful. -
Hi girls,
I'm feeling so much better today! My husband found a recipe for a fruit smoothie that helps nausea and it worked like a charm! I'm going to take it very easy today to insure that I can return to work tommorrow. I hope all is going ok with everyone. -
I am having a not great day. A little stomach upset, a little nausea, a little feeling sorry for myself and very worried about my upcoming chemo session 3 on Weds.
Normally I would get my mind off all this by working in the studio but it is over 90 degrees here and the studio is like an oven.
I guess I'll try to watch T.V. or read.
Eventually sunday night will come. -
Welcome Rebecca!
I wish I were welcoming you so something that was fun, but here we are dangit!
Glad to hear most of you are doing well. Jo, I wish you were feeling better, but you know you will again soon! You always seem to bounce back well.
I laid around yesterday and most of today on purpose to make sure I rest. I've had some queasiness, but nothing too bad.
This darn ashtray taste in my mouth is driving me crazy! Food still tastes the same, so I'm okay there so far. It's when I'm NOT eating that I get that yukky taste. I guess I"ll gain 50 lbs on chemo!
The encouragement from you ladies and others does wonders. I met someone on the live chat here that lives very close to me and she's called to check on me since my chemo on Thursday. Her last chemo is next week. There is a lighit at the end of this treatment!
Wishing you well, -
Watson, think I can help you with that yucky taste-cold stuff-really cold like crushed ice and and low-cal popsickles. It must deadened the taste buds for a short while. But is helping me and I think I read it somewhere on the boards
Bev -
Yeah...that yucky mouth is pretty gross...I've been sucking on lemons which keeps it at bay for short periods, plus the ices, plus peppermints with no sugar.
Now I'm trying to decide what to do about my hair...get it cut short or buzz cut or wait until it starts coming out. I need to call my hairdresser to see when she's available. I guess the buzz cut makes the most sense?
Next week I only have one doctor's appointment...wow what will I do with all that extra time
Liz -
JoMac, try really, really hard to distract yourself and don't dwell on your next treatment. The mind is a very powerful thing that can conjour up every side effect imaginable. It sounds like you discussed a plan with your chemo nurse to help avoid what happened to you last time. Hold on to the thought that this time everything will go smoothly and it will happen. My first tx was Friday, and I was most worried about the nausea and vomiting that I think I talked myself into it. I was pretty sick on Friday, but then I decided to work hard on not psyching myself out, and I feel pretty good today. I know that there will be good days and bad but getting through this is the most important thing right now. Why, I can't believe it will be tx #3 for you already!
LizFL, I made an appointment yesterday with my stylist who also sold me the wig and will be cutting and styling it for me next Friday. I know myself well enough that I would be more depressed to watch my hair fall out then to take control and shave it off! I'm looking forward to the new do! The wig looks better than my own hair!! lol -
Zeamer...are you getting it cut real short or buzz cut? I guess I will get it done this week...cause the following week is going to be busy..have a CT scan that week and the 2nd chemo, plus it will be a short week with the holiday.
JoMac...try to enjoy the next couple of days. Things will most likely go smoother this time. I know it's easier said than done not to get nervous....just know we are all here holding your hand
Hugs,
Liz -
Ugh! Just got back from a three day art show - 130 miles each way, and DH and I commuted each day, Friday and Sat nights we had to stay until 10. It was BRUTAL - 96 degrees, and almost no one attended because of the heat! Live and learn, I guess. I started losing my hair at the end of the day, all of a sudden. Then I came home and showered and it came out in handfuls. I don't have my new wig yet, but I did get the head wrap from chemochicks.com, and it's really comfortable. I can see this being my headcover of choice. And it's really just a tube of knit material, just as though you had cut a t-shirt off below the armpits and hemmed the top edge. I have a tie-dyed tank that never fit right, and I think I will make another head wrap from it, and maybe from some other t-shirts as well. They show how to wrap it on their web site, it is really pretty easy and looks ok because the extra bulk from the wrap adds proportion to your head around your face where you used to have fluff from hair.
Tomorrow is chemo #2 - I'm ready.
Brenda -
LizFL, about 2 weeks after my first surgery (lumpectomy)and I knew what my treatment plan would be, I got my hair cut short. I had always thought I looked awful with short hair, so I've always had my hair long, mid back. I think for me the shock of that first cut was far more traumatic than shaving my head will be! I got great compliments on the short do, so I decided to purchase a medium length wig. I'm going to go all way and never look back!! IT WILL GROW BACK SOMEDAY RIGHT? lol
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Brenda...good luck with chemo # 2...we're rooting for you!
Look Good Feel Better program has a booklet with different head wraps and things you can do with tees. I am not very handy though I ordered a denim bucket hat with some separate "hair fringe" for when I don't want to wear a wig.
Zeamer...think I'll go the buzz cut route too and just start wearing the wigs. My hair is chin length...wigs are chin length and a little longer.
Have a good week all!
Liz -
Hey June Bugs
I'm starting to think about the hair more often now. I'm on day 5 post treatment, and the countdown begins. I am so dreading this part. And I don't even like my hair!
I have two questions that you 'pros' can maybe help me with.
1. How long did you take your anti nausea meds for?
2. For those of you wearing wigs, did you just slap it on, or did you wear a wig cap or something else in between.
thanks.
I'm at work, feeling okay I guess. Just a litte tired. -
Hi Watson,
At least you went to work. That is a good thing ...right?
I am struggling against doubtful thoughts. So getting to work is the right advice for me.
I will try to paint peonies again today.
I have two wigs I like but I can't stand to have the scracthy tight things on my head for longer than a few minutes so I just ordered a wig cap . I hope that helps.
I took my compazine for three days and it wasn't that I consiously stopped taking it I just realized I hadn't and that I didn't need too.
My husband just got back from the pharmacy with the the cream for the port and more ativan.
It is a tiny tube. If it works it will be worth the cost.
I wonder if I should try ice packs too.
And when do you put the cream on? Right before insertion or a 1/2 hour before.
Hang in there Watson and remember if you need "nappies " (that's what we call naps at my house ) take one. -
Hey Jo,
Put the cream on an hour before your infusion. Did your tube come with clear bandage type things? You put a glob of the cream over the port, (don't rub it in) and then cover with the plastic. If you don't have the bandages, you can use saran wrap.
It's a small tube, but it should more than last through your chemo's.
Thanks for your help with my questions! I'm going to find some wig caps myself. I just know I'll be itchy without.
Thanks again! -
I found out today that I have lymphedema in my breast. @*&#! And of course I could only reach the voice mail at the lymphedema clinic so I don't even have an appointment for treatment yet. While I wait for them to call back I thought I would let you guys know that if you get any warmth and redness in your skin, but no increase in body temperature (ruling out an infection), it may be lymphedema! I didn't even know you could get in in your breast!
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Hi, Junies,
I'm just back from #2. I really felt sleepy on the way home, but the Ativan really didn't have much effect on the first one. So, I've got to go to the store and get something for supper, since DH went back to work for a while. They have such a pleasant environment at Cleveland Clinic, lots of emotional support with a social worker and a chemo nurse advocate that comes in to chat while you're getting the infusion. My hair is really going, and the social worker told me a funny story. She said one lady was using the brush n her vaccuum to get the hair off her clothes, and had the idea to run it over her head. Whoosh-there went her hair! And no more mess! I've been thinking about a buzz, but my hair is really short anyway, and I don't know. I can tell my hair is dead, though, it's just lying on my head, no spring, no bounce. Good news, though, the wig I ordered to replace the one that was too big is here, and it's not bad at all. I'm thinking that we should go for a convertible ride tonight and see if I get home with any hair left!
OK, to the store, then a rest. Have a good evening, ladies. Who else is up this week? -
Just back from my 4th treatment (on a 14 weekly trial) and all is well. Does anyone else have the urge to yank out their port and run screaming when their getting their treatment? I do every week, I sure the nurses think I am just a smiling, friendly patient-little do they know I have just visualized my now bald head running down the hall.
Found out today they have been using a too big needle on me-get to have a smaller one next week.
Got to see the doctor too-glad I only see her once a month. Trying to figure out what I may have been in my life that causes me to get these lame doctors that answer "I'll havet o think about that." I seem to end up giving them more input than they ever give me-don't they read the boards!
Also found out they have been flushing my line to fast. The nurse must have seen my eyes rolling all around my sockets-she made note of it for me.
Feeling great-floating in a chemo brain haze
Hope all is well out in chemo world with all of you
Bev -
Junesters- You all sound MUCH BETTER.
Now for those with chemo-nerves about upcoming treatment this week please know that you are NORMAL. I used to dread the next one- even if the last one went fine. But once you are settled in you will relax. Someone asked if anyone ever felt like running out in the middle of the infusion? YES! ME! All eight times I would plot my escape route as I was driving over. It always calms me down to imagine my emergency exit strategy. Never did it though- ALMOST did it for my first one but then they had bouncers holding me down. I wonder who tipped them off???
Wigs are not going to feel too great in the hot summer- get a wig cap if you can - even though it makes no sense adding another layer to your head. Like I said before keep a bottle of Sea Breeze handy and put it on your hot head and you will cool right off! SOME of you may get hot flashes during chemo so the Sea Breeze is something to keep in mind.
Please remember to be as diligent as possible for all future chemos. Follow the med schedule, drink that water and keep the ice pops coming.
After about day three you won't need the anti-nausea meds anymore.
About the hair...it will start to hurt a little- your scalp will feel all weird. It will actually feel good to get it all off. The more you play with it the more it will come out. But to get it all off you have to shave it.
Was it Brenda who was going grocery shopping the afternoon of her chemo??? Girl! You have to plan ahead! Baby yourself after chemo- don't be out galavanting! I hope you brought your water with you!
Breast lymphadema is tricky stuff...especially so close to your surgeries. Make sure it isn't an infection. I had that and they thought it was just lymphadema... big mistake. Talk to your doc about some Cipro or Levaquin. I had a major problem that could have been nothing if Ihad taken antibiotics in time.
Everyone should be aware of redness, warmth, swelling, stripes of red across their chests- all these are signs of infection especially if you had your lymph nodes removed. You must see a doc ASAP.
I THINK I covered everything??? Anything else you want to ask? - Just ask- JUST NO MATH QUESTIONS! -
Glad to hear from today's chemo ladies. You go girls! Brenda...I do like that idea of the vacuum! and the convertible!
Has anyone used or know anyone who has used those gel rings under their wigs?
Nancy...wish I could reach out and hug you. More crappy news seems like too much sometimes. Just take some deep breaths and get one of your doctors to check you out thoroughly.
Had a pretty decent day at work...but was pretty tired when I got home. Working at a slower speed than normal, but it feels good to keep a routine.
No Surrender....Sea Breeze sounds soothing and cooling...will have to pick up some. Florida is HOT...I've already warned my co-workers that the a/c temp is going down when I start wearing a wig! Even though my first chemo went pretty smoothly...I am scared about the second one...at least I don't have to think about it until next week though.
Liz -
Just spoke with my hairdresser. She is so sweet...she is going to come to my house next Tuesday for the "hair trauma". I didn't want to sit in the salon so I asked if they have a private room. She volunteered to come to my house to do it! Amazing how kindness can make you feel so much better!
Liz -
Sick, sick, sick, sick, sick of this! Oh Junies... I've just had 6 of the yuckiest days! I am finally feeling just a bit better. I pretty much haven't left my bed in what seems like forever. I'm praying that tomorrow will see me feeling more normal. This was getting rough. I was starting to have those "I'm going to run off screaming and never do this again" thoughts. Oh my... I just want this over.
I know it'll get better... and I've done so well up until the last few days. I've tried very hard to keep it together... I guess that couldn't last forever.
My husband and son have been so wonderful... but it still breaks my heart to see them sad when I'm feeling so awful. This is just so unfair.
My husband shaved my head last night... that was tough too. I tried to be mentally prepared, but the actual loss was a bit rough. I now look like a wiped out cancer patient and that didn't help my mood either. I'm just trying to take a day at a time and just get through this... ya know?
I hope you are all doing ok. I don't quite have the energy to check up on everyone's posts yet. I'm keeping you all in my prayers. You all are such "Towanda's" and I'm so proud of how strong you all are.
BIG HUGS! -
Dana....sorry to hear this clump of days has been so difficult.
Tomorrrow is treatment number 3 for me .
I am taking everything but the kitchen sink this time.
I can only quote a friend of mine who said this prior to her four years birthday party ..." I need it to go great and I need it to be over".
Yup...that is exactly how I feel . -
Nosurrender, the grocery store is at the end of the street, and it's pretty much a daily thing to stop in for a few things. Not a big shopping trip, just an errand to get out of the house for a little. I did feel like cooking supper, though I let Greg do the cleanup! Today I'm doing a few paperwork-type things around the house. The lawn is calling to be mowed, but it's mighty hot out there! Maybe I'll do a little this evening and some more tomorrow. At least I have a riding mower!
The social worker stopped by yesterday for chemo, and she was talking about some non-scientific research she has done over the years. She says that about 65% of patients have felt the worst emotionally after treatment #3. She was telling me that so I would be mentally prepared for next time. I told her that a lot of the women on this board had expressed the same feeling about #3, that they just felt like they couldn't do another one, and were feeling really blue and emotional. I think it's that we're not half way yet, but deep into the process, there's no going back, and we're tired of it! I hope it helps to be prepared. Jo, I know you're going tomorrow for #3, and I think you're the first of us Junies. We're thinking of you, and hoping you do well. If you feel really blue, just remember it's normal, and be good to yourself. You're in Maine, right? That's our favorite vacation spot, and we're going to try to get a trip in between chemo and rads this fall. We haven't been in three years, and I miss the coast.
Brenda -
I'm going on day 3 of extreme fatigue....this really sucks! I was able to get out and cut some flowers yesterday...had to do it in stages, but it felt good to see my "babies" and bring some sunshine inside.
I see the surgical onc. today for the nodes removal and I'm going to ask her about this extreme fatigue, which is most likely part way due to this horrible cold I have.
I see the surgeon who put the port in tomorrow and friday I have the ct's and body scans...fun week.
I've only had one treatment, out of 6, and I just don't think I can do another. How do you all keep going on?? Maybe it's the fatigue, but I even have to sit down to brush my teeth! -
Liz, thanks so much for the offer of a hug! I should take it and then pass it on to you guys that need it for your post-chemo yuckies. A cyber hug circle!
I am really grateful that I even have my breast, but I guess the redness just scared the heck out of me, thinking I could end up losing my breast from infection (insert paranoid thoughts here...) My appointment at the lymphedema clinic is not until July 6.
I thought "what the heck" and went to my bellydancing class last night. The first time since my surgery! I felt wonderful afterward, so I'm really glad I went. I was just careful not to do too many "snake arms!" I recommend it to everyone...it's fun and good exercise. You don't need any special clothes, it's non-impact, etc. and great for the waistline, too!
The Cancer Wellness place here has meditation on Tuesday nights, so I plan to go and see if that will help me face the Terror In Treatment Syndrome (TITS) that may overtake me if I don't get help.
Be good to yourselves, ladies! And thanks, Nosurrender, for your ongoing advice!
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