Heel spur? anyone? ever? from chemo? confused.

Hi, all.

Saturday or so I developed a terrible pain in my heel.  It didnt go away, so yesterday I went to onc.  My regular onc. was not in so I saw a different one.  I love my onc. and have heard wonderful things about the primary that she works with there too.  But not this idiot.  He was an idiot.  Not only did I go in for the pain in my heel, but because this tx (last monday) has been by far the worse!  I puked for 5 days, lost 10 lbs.  My bone pain is so sever that even my pain meds arent making it tolerable.  Got lots of mouth sores (so now I have special mouth wash)(I love being special).  My fingernails hurt.  Whatever, I could go on forever but who cares at this point~ only 2 more freaking txs to go!  Yipeeeeeeee I just love cancer.

He asked my why I have bone pain, if the cancer is not in my bone!  UMMMM thank God he is not my Dr. 

Anyway about the heel thing.  If I touch it, it feels like I am being stabbed!  I have to walk on my toes.  It is only in my right heel.  Someone told me it might be a heel spur.  IDK

He put me on antibiotics and told me that if I develop a fever I must be admitted.  He did give me a prescription for anti-nausea but it is not covered by insurance so I wont be getting that $424.00 patch.  It is bad enough the freaking antibiotics cost $60.00!

Has anyone ever had this?  Any clue?

Thanks

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  • bluedasher
    bluedasher Member Posts: 1,203
    edited September 2009

    Try going to your regular doctor. An onc is not likely to be skilled at diagnosing causes of heel pain which might not be chemo related or might be indirectly related (e.g. perhaps because your exercise and use patterns have changed due to chemo).

    I have had pain in my heel from tendonitis of the achillies tendon and it hurt about like you are describing. Wearing shoes was torture at first but part of the cure because I was told to put heal lifts in them to reduce the stretch on the tendon for a while. Regular icing helped. Anti-inflammatory meds help but might not go well with chemo. I also had visits with the physical therapist, the first ones to be told what not to do and what to do to help it calm down and the later ones to add some gentle stretching and strength exercises for it.

    A general practitioner will probably also do an X-ray to check if there is a bone problem causing the heel pain. They did that when I had heel pain but the bones were fine - no impingement - just the tendon getting angry.

    It isn't clear to me which problem caused him to put you on antibiotics.

  • cherneski
    cherneski Member Posts: 726
    edited September 2009

    Thanks, the heel is warmer than the other one, so it is sign of infection.  My husband has a nifty tool that measures heat, so I checked both feet, my right foot is 2 degrees hotter than my left.  Now my left heel is starting to hurt, I thought it was in my mind until I stepped on something and almost cried. 

  • bettysgirl
    bettysgirl Member Posts: 938
    edited September 2009

    deborah- I have a history with heel spurs that cleared when i began wearing crocs faithfully till they healed...BUT with the first taxotere.....OHHHHH MANNNN i know what you are talking about. It throbbed it was like stabbing shooting pains..I was also soooo sick. I ended up going back to get steroids and fluids but the heel pain began with the neulasta and then got sooo much worse. My onco didn't want to blame it on the chemo, said he had never seen it before..Well PCP gave me some vicodin to get past it and low and behold when the rest of the bone pain stopped so did the heel pain.

    Try to stetch the tendon before you get up and bear weight but patience and good shoes are the ticket.

    i hope your pain stops soon. I know how you are feeling. Just tell that idiot that he doesn't know what he is talking about. My onco swallowed a little crow himself when he realized the taxotere set it off.

    Hugs to you,

    lisa/BG

  • sheila888
    sheila888 Member Posts: 25,634
    edited September 2009

    I had heel spur years ago. Its not an infection and they don't prescribe antibiotics. I had an xray on my right foot. I saw the foot doctor he said it was a mild case. I should wear  good sneakers even in summer time. I don't know what happened to it but there is no more pain and i can wear any type of shoes i want.

    And you don't get a fever from it and it is not related to chemo. .

    Good Luck

    Smile Sheila

  • cherneski
    cherneski Member Posts: 726
    edited September 2009

    I am starting to freak out just a bit, I think it might be neuropathy.  Do any of you have this?  I didnt think neuropathy was painful, and I am not sure if this is it, but it seems to fit the symptoms more than a bone or heel spur. 

    I hate cancer.  I hate chemo. I hate chemo.  I hate chemo!  I want to freaking be normal!

  • sheila888
    sheila888 Member Posts: 25,634
    edited September 2009

    Does it feel tingly or numb?

  • cherneski
    cherneski Member Posts: 726
    edited September 2009

    It feels like a sharp pain.  If you touch it, or I step on it, it feels like I am being stabbed.

  • sheila888
    sheila888 Member Posts: 25,634
    edited September 2009

    Deborah, I can only tell you my own experience, they do sound like symptoms of heel spur but if your DR put you on antibiotics then its not. Maybe you can ask for a foot xray, you got nothing to loose

  • cherneski
    cherneski Member Posts: 726
    edited September 2009

    Thanks Sheila, IDK.  I am just so tired of BS going on in MY body.  The dr. was an idiot, I will be seeing my regular onc. on Thurs. so I will ask her what direction to go in.  But Thurs. is so far away, you know me and wanting answers NOW!

    Hugs

  • sheila888
    sheila888 Member Posts: 25,634
    edited September 2009

    Try to get some rest my friend.

    Good Night

  • CapeBretongirl
    CapeBretongirl Member Posts: 364
    edited September 2009

     Cherneski, don't freak out.  I really feel for you.  Approx. 3 treatments in with T, I developed the same pain as you.  The bad news is that it spread, to both feet.  Then it spread to my bones.  My Onc said it was a common se from Chemo.  Walking was almost impossible.  Friends bought me very thick and fluffy memory foam slippers.  The Onc. prescribed steroids and pain killers. Nausea,  I remember puking, laying on the bathroom floor, semi passed out, waking up, puking, pass back out, doing it over and over again.  It was the first time I saw the bottom of a toilet.  My feet hurt to much to keep walking back and forth from bedroom to bathroom.  By the time the pain started to lessen, it was time for another tx.  Mentally,  I thought for sure I was going to be committed.  It took about a month after the last treatment for the pain to go away.  So there is a light at the end of this sh$ty tunnel.    As for being normal, I think that is highly over rated & boring.  How about just  pain & fatigue free.   (((Hugs)))Angel

  • SoCalLisa
    SoCalLisa Member Posts: 13,961
    edited September 2009

    Hi there, I answered you on another thread..It may be plantar fascitis..I had it..it is very treatable...

  • bluedasher
    bluedasher Member Posts: 1,203
    edited September 2009

    I still think that you should also try to get an appointment with your regular doc to check it out. It doesn't have to be chemo related. And I think that the inflammation from something like tendonitis can make it warmer than the other heel without an infection.

    I know how hard it is when your foot really hurts like that. Sometimes the other foot can start hurting too because you are walking different to favor the bad one.

    Is there any bulge that the other foot doesn't have? With achillies tendonits, the back of my anckle about an inch above the ground bulged out.

  • cherneski
    cherneski Member Posts: 726
    edited September 2009

    ymb~ thank you.  So glad to hear from someone who had the same thing and that it went away.

    Socal~ thank you too, I will be checking into that too.

    bluedasher~ I am gonna get in to see my regular Dr. tomorrow and see what he has to say.

    Thanks all so much!  I know I must seem crazy, because I am.  I really just cant take much more.  Each tx new and improved SEs.  I think my body is just tired of it.  And then I start really freaking out thinking OMG did one of those freaking cancer cells get lose and get lodged in somewhere else.  I am trying so hard to visualize being better.   Welcome the tx to get rid of this nasty DISease.  I feel defeated.

    I really dont know what I would do without all of you.  You are truely blessed ppl.  Amazing wonderful ppl.

    Thank you for being here for me.

  • London-Virginia
    London-Virginia Member Posts: 851
    edited September 2009

    Hi there - so sorry to hear of all this awful pain.

    I have had heel spurs ( sometimes called plantar fascitis) - not related to cancer in any way.  I had a lot of trouble for 3 years but I am ok now.  

    I am not sure this is plantar - it came on very suddenly and plantar doesn't usually have the temperature thing, which sounds like sever inflammation.  Pack out the area with bags of frozen peas to get the inflammation down.  Good to raise foot on a pillow while lying down.  To get a plantar F. diagnosis, you could either see an osteopath or possibly a chiropodist.

    I think ass a temporary measure, you might be able to get a steroid injection to ease off the pain and inflammation.

    Are you wearing flat shoes a lot, with thing soles?  To protect your foot from percussion of walking around, absolutely flatties are not good.  As a start off point, can you buy some arch supports that you can tuck in your shoes?   

    So sorry - do let us know how you get on.

    Much love -

  • cherneski
    cherneski Member Posts: 726
    edited September 2009

    As of now I am waiting on a call back from both PCP and Onc. as the pain in now in my entire right foot, and most of my left.  I cant get to either Dr. without help and DH is not home yet.  I cant walk without extreme pain!  The pain is a little different than yesterday.  It feels like my skin is too small for my foot when it is resting.  Forget standing or walking I just cant do it.

    DH while sleeping last night kicked my right heel.  I think we both ended up crying.  I was almost hysterical with the pain.  He felt so bad. 

    I am looking into a wheelchair for if it doesnt get better. 

  • Welga
    Welga Member Posts: 308
    edited September 2009

    Sound like plantar fascitis to me. I started with a red, inflamed heel. I could not stand on it either and had to walk on my toes just like you. You need to get it X-rayed but also see a podiatrist who will make special soles, inserts to put in you shoes, they are made to measure and after wearing them for a while you will see the swelling going away, and you will be able to walk normally. Don't worry to much about it being something worst, there are lots of threads on this here . With this condition, at night I cannot rest my foot on the bed, I have to prop it with a pillow. I use Traumell or Myoflex cream on it and it helps with the pains, those are worst at night so that is when I use the oinments.

  • Welga
    Welga Member Posts: 308
    edited September 2009

    Forgot to add, like London Virginia said, no thin soles, running shoes are the best. Also closed shoes with laces to support you ankles. That was the advice I got from the specialist.

  • cherneski
    cherneski Member Posts: 726
    edited September 2009

    Update...

    I can walk on both feet today.  My right heel is still a little tender, not much. 

    Not sure if it was an infection  or just a se of chemo.  I have spoken with 2 other ppl that got this during chemo, and then who posted here.  But I am pretty sure it isnt a spur as I dont think it would have gone away.

    Thanks all

  • CapeBretongirl
    CapeBretongirl Member Posts: 364
    edited September 2009

    Thanks for the update Cherneski.  I'm glad your feeling a little better.  2 more F$%king txs to go.  I'll keep my fingers crossed that your se aren't as bad next time around.  (((hugs))) Angel

  • London-Virginia
    London-Virginia Member Posts: 851
    edited September 2009

    Deborah - really glad it has eased off.  Sounded awful.  If you have never had anything similar to this before, I doubt it is plantar fascitis.  Anyway, good luck!

  • leaf
    leaf Member Posts: 8,188
    edited September 2009

    I have never had chemo, so I can't speak to that aspect, but I have had plantar fasciitis, and  posterior tendonitis, which morphed into posterior tendonosis  (between my heel and ankle.)

    Sometimes I could not walk a step. For me, plantar fasciitis could have a very sudden onset.  One time it happened in a supermarket, and I 'wheeled' myself out of the place in a shopping cart.

    For me, orthotics helped.  One time some (not all) of the layers in my orthotic broke, and putting a piece of strappling tape over the area made the difference between walking 1 mile with pain and walking 4 miles without pain.  Stretching was really key for me.

    I went to a podiatrist.  If you have a podiatrist that is not doing things to help you, then seek out another!!!! My first podiatrist did not treat my tendonitis, and it turned into degeneration after a year.

    My posterior tendonitis (inflammation of the tendon) turned into tendonosis (degeneration of the tendon- when you 'scrape' on it you can feel bumps, unlike the way a smooth tendon should be.)  I'm getting physical therapy for that.  I was able to change from barely able to walk 2 blocks, to being able to walk 5 miles.  I am a firm believer in physical therapy.

    Best wishes for a speedy recovery! We only realize how much we need our feet when we can't use them!!

  • impix
    impix Member Posts: 4
    edited February 2018

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