AUGUST 2009 RADS

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  • lollys
    lollys Member Posts: 205
    edited August 2009

    Had my port out yesterday--seem fine today--had light anesthesia (MAC) in surgi center as the way he put it in needed  surgery to get it out--but no problem at this point--seems funny not having it but glad it is out--just a little sore-but really no big deal!! starting rads monday --hope everyone is doing well with their rads-- Welcome Shedua there is also a sept. thread  so those of us continuing on rads in sept. will keep in touch--hope everyone has a good week stay strong!! Laura

  • elimar86861
    elimar86861 Member Posts: 7,416
    edited August 2009

    I haven't read about radiation making anyone HYPER, but both yesterday and today I felt a little manic.  No, I am NOT BIPOLAR.  I felt a little queasy, too.  Maybe that was my migraine.  I felt a touch of migraine since yesterday's treatment. Here we go.  Yes, I am a bit of a HYPOCHONDRIC on rads.  Is there such a thing as a HYPER-CHONDRIAC????

     

  • janincolorado
    janincolorado Member Posts: 2
    edited August 2009

    Hi all!  One thing that I was surprised about, my onc radiologist advised that I should avoid any strenuous and/or repetitive movements on the side that I am having radiated.  Specifically she mentioned upper body weight lifting/exercise and vacuuming as examples.  I hadn't seen anyone else mention this and wondered if you were given the same warnings.  My second job is as a cashier which obviously involves upper body movement, sometimes with weight.  We talked about it quite a bit before tx started and since I typically use my opposite arm more due to the set-up of the work area and to minimize arthritis issues in my lower neck area we thought it would be okay.  Since then I have noticed not only swelling, but achiness in the breast and underarm area on the radiated side especially nights after a shift.  Dr said if it was just minimal swelling might be okay to continue, but since there was also achiness thought it best to discontinue.  So, I've had to go on a leave from that job.  Otherwise, things seem fine.  My skin after 12 of 36 tx's seems to be doing okay.  I do experience the occasional stabbing pains others have noticed, but nothing too bad.  Hope everyone is having a good week!

  • LoriR
    LoriR Member Posts: 131
    edited August 2009

    Hey All - I was in today for #7 and saw doc.  the lump under my scar he said was nothing to worry about - he called it something but I don't remember the name - but he said it is like a fluid sac. Said it is very common. ahh

    Janincolarado - my doc. did not say anything to me about not using upper body - at least until there would be breaks in the skin or severe irritation.  - I am a runner and he said it was ok to run at least until too much sweating would be bad for open skin etc. 

    good luck to everyone

  • kawee
    kawee Member Posts: 324
    edited August 2009

    LoriR- They presented my case to the tumor board and they all agreed chem was a definite overkill on a 1 mm tumor.  I guess it's the size of a couple of hairs.  They said they were on the fence with Herceptin, We are going to talk about it after Rads.  Said it would cut my chance of reoccurence about 4%.  He also said in Finland they did a study where you get it every 3 months instead of every month and got pretty much the same results.  So we are going to consider that.  He said if the tumor was any larger I would definitely get chemo.  You are wonder woman, running 10 miles.  WOW.  I power walk a couple of miles a day, but like I said before, I have Lupus am already fatigued, so now I am down to a small walk.  Dr. said he expected this, with the Lupus. 

    Sherry35- Yes I do get nausea after treatment.  It doesn't last very long  only a few minutes to an hour.

  • fmakj
    fmakj Member Posts: 1,278
    edited August 2009

    Hi All!  I have # 19 down, 6 more regular and 5 boosts to go!!  I too have been having a lot of heartburn and nausea the last few days.  Also it feels like I have burnt my tongue, but don't remember doing it.  My Onc said to take some Zantac for the heartburn and it seemed to take away the nausea too.  I did not take any today, but still feel slight nausea/burning sensation will take one again soon.  Also, although he said it is not from Rads, I seem to be 8 days overdue for my period!! NO - not pregnant - must be stress!!  Oh Well, only 11 more tx to go and maybe things will settle down (I mean, of course, after the 2 week peak period after the last tx!)  Be Well All! 

  • kawee
    kawee Member Posts: 324
    edited August 2009

    Shedua - Welcome.  Have you started Rads yet? 

  • Hemen
    Hemen Member Posts: 33
    edited August 2009

    Hi everyone!!!

    Done with #10 out of 33 (9 of them will be the famous boost).  So far so good-- my left side just feels wierd, the skin feels tight somehow, but I am not red.  The scar aches a bit.  I am using aquafor at night and aloe during the day.  I was told initially that they would miss my heart and would only clip the top of my left lung (tumor was inside of left breast very deep to chest wall like Ravenruth).  Now I find out that the decision was made to hit the top of the heart in order to get the tumor bed that was so close to chest wall.  I was a bit shocked that my opinion was not solicited-- I would have agreed to do it as the argument goes that it is better to kill the cancer now and worry about heart and lung problems 15-20 years down the road-- but I would have liked to have been consulted rather than have it presented as a done deal.  Radiation is so creepy-- so invisible-- at least with the chemo you could see the posion going into your body.... 

    I have found a roll on deodorant (Crystal is the name brand) that is aluminium free, fragrance free etc-- I found that the Toms of Maine solid was rough to put on-- I felt like I was dragging it across my armpit which could not be good for it.

    LoriR--I am up all night all the time with hot flashes from hell-- so it is hard to tell how much is fatigue and how much is lack of sleep. I have not slept more than 4 hours at a time since I was diagnosed....Work is tough--chemo brain still in full efffect:(

    Big hugs to everyone!

    Helen

  • charmd
    charmd Member Posts: 118
    edited August 2009

    Hi Sherry,

    I had #17 of 35 today.  For the past week, I've been feeling naseau after my tx, and coming home for a 2-3 hour nap.  The fatigue has really kicked in the last couple of tx.  My techs say the naseau is not a SE of the rads, but I think it is.  

    Hang in there.

    Charmaine 

  • sherry35
    sherry35 Member Posts: 409
    edited August 2009

    thanks everyone, it's good to know that i'm not crazy.  Just having a real tough emotional day today and i'm not sure why.

    Anyway tomorrow is another day.  Good luck and god bless.

    Sherry

  • kawee
    kawee Member Posts: 324
    edited August 2009

    Charmd - My Rad Onco said that about 1 out of every 100 get nausea.

  • LoriR
    LoriR Member Posts: 131
    edited August 2009

    Helen- I too have not had a good nights sleep since dx - the hot flashes are crazy!  I am sure that has a lot to do with feeling so lazy - The chemo brain is crazy too.  I can't seem to follow anyone's stories at work which is NOT good.  I am the HR director at my co. so most of what I do is listen - and sometimes I will be sitting there looking at an employee thinking to my self - I have no idea what he just said and now I am suppose to give a response.  This really sucks for me because I used to be really good at my job and now - not!  I thought I could at least rest on my laurels a bit at work since I have been there for 15 years and worked for the same boss for 13 of them; but no such luck - my company is in turmoil and there is daily talk of takeovers, bank issues, cut backs, lay offs etc.   I not only can't take off work but really need to be "ON" when I am there. 

    Kawee - I think it is great that you are power walking - I know Lupus can really kick you in the butt - I have a friend with it so I have seen what it can do.  You probably speed walk faster than I run -  I really should call it jogging and not running - Kuddos to you!

    fmajk - did  you have chemo?  that could explain it - I haven't had mine since chemo which is when my hot flashes started

    charmd - I have heard of so many people saying that they get upset stomachs while on rads - it has to be a se even if not officially

    Sherry - it is ok - we all have them - I flipped out on my husband today because he made be make the vet appt. - why couldn't he handle it and just let it be one less thing for me to deal with!   seems petty but it really ticked me off!

    best of luck to everyone - another day down!

  • Alyad
    Alyad Member Posts: 817
    edited August 2009

    welcome to all the new people!

    I've done 17 of 25. Some redness, some tightness down the whole left side. I need to stretch. I have read somewhere where rad onc consistenly deny nausea as a side effect of rads- yet lots of people have it. I have felt mild nausea sometimes since the first week. To me it feels like the kind of upset I sometimes have felt (even before any of this bc crap) when I am hungry/dehydrated- kind of a low blood sugar wave- I try to chug water whenever I feel this. I think its the body's way of demanding more to work with while its trying to repair.

     I had what will hopefully be my worst treatment yesterday. I am having IMRT/Tomotherapy which takes a longer time anyway- everyday I get a CT scan, then wait for about 5-10 minutes w.out moving- then they start the treatment which takes 14 minutes- total time is typically about 30 minutes. So yesterday, we go through the scan and the wait and then start tx and the machine goes down. They reboot it and start over (at least I got to relax my arms for a few minutes), so scan again, wait again, start again- again the machine goes down! Okay one more try- again scan, again wait, again start treatment- AGAIN a machine error- but a different one that didn't require a machine restart. At this point- I have to pee so bad and I'm so uncomfortable I'm actually hoping the machine dies again so I can get up even if it means a delay in treatment- but it finally does start and 14 minutes later I can finally move (and go to the bathroom!) . They knew I was in agony and they were giving me a minute by minute countdown of time left. I was there for nearly 2 hours.

    so that sucked and I really hope it doesn't happen again! today went smoothly as the other 15 treatments have.

  • fmakj
    fmakj Member Posts: 1,278
    edited August 2009


    Alyad - what a horrible experience!  Lets hope you don't have to go through that again! The nausea I experience is like yours also - normally a piece of fruit does the trick - it's the heartburn that has been bothering me! 

    LoriR- no - no chemo for me- kinda weird isn't it?  Maybe Radipause??

    Nausea is not specifically a se of breast radiation, but it is "general" se of radiation - along with eating problems (either non-stop or unable to eat!). 

    Let's hope we ALL get through this week smoothly!!  Be Well All!

  • O3132W
    O3132W Member Posts: 211
    edited August 2009

    ALYED;  I just cringed as I read your comments.  I cant imagine anything worse than having to lay on that stone table one minute longer and you went through the worst.  I am so sorry this happened to you and hope with all my heart that the rest of your treatments go as they should.  Yesterday was my #11 of 16 (shortened radiation) and I thought that I had it bad as they had me lay 5 minutes longer than normal to get xray picture.  I will never complain again.  You take the prize for worst day in my opinion.  Cathey

  • elimar86861
    elimar86861 Member Posts: 7,416
    edited August 2009
    Alyad,  do you know what percentage of your lung is getting radiated?  I ask because you are getting the IMRT.  (I understand it could depend on where the tumor was in the first place, but I'm just wondering.)  I'm getting 3D-Conformal and found out that it is hitting 20% of my lung. Rad-Onc had told me earlier that the lung usually gets a little because it's right up against the chest wall.  I guess his idea of "a little" and mine are pretty different. I was horrified.
  • ccbaby
    ccbaby Member Posts: 985
    edited August 2009

    I am finally starting my rads tomorrow. I am 7 weeks PFC now and I had my SIM over a week ago. I didn't think they were ever going to get my plan worked out. My radiologist said that my case is 'very involved' I will find out tomorrow why.

  • ccbaby
    ccbaby Member Posts: 985
    edited August 2009
    Dayla...That really sucks that you had to lay there for so long!!! I am going to be there tomorrow all day. I may see you, what time do you go in?
  • BetsyBuzz
    BetsyBuzz Member Posts: 592
    edited August 2009

    fmaki- thank you for your post. After losing 10 lbs on chemo, lately all I have been doing is eating. I didn't realize non-stop eating is a se of rads. I haven't gained weight yet...but know it's bound to happen. Today I had my first vegetarian spaghetti since March, finally have my taste buds back and now everyone is talking nausea and heartburn! Yikes...I had such awful heartburn on chemo...I don't want to go there again.

    Dayla - your ordeal sounds awful. Hope it goes smoothly from here on out. 

    Sounds like a number of you are at the half way mark or further, hang in there, you are almost there. Thanks for sharing your info. it helps pave the way for us lagers.

  • ccbaby
    ccbaby Member Posts: 985
    edited August 2009
    Well, my first rad treatment was excruciating only because they did my markings first and then my radiation afterwards. Usually they don't start rads until the next day, but they wanted to start early on me. Anyway, I had to lay on the hard board with my arms above my head for about 2 hours total!! They let me get up once to get some feeling back. They kept reassuring me that it would not be like this from now on....only about 15 minutes.  Elimar...I gave in and let them do the tattoos afterall. I guess they aren't that bad, they look like a small blackhead. I have 4 of them.
  • elimar86861
    elimar86861 Member Posts: 7,416
    edited August 2009

    Good Luck to you.  I just started on Mon., and I hope we are among the lucky ones who have minimal side effects.  I haven't been able to wear any white shirts since getting all my green Sharpie marks, and I don't own too many green shirts.  Uh oh!

  • O3132W
    O3132W Member Posts: 211
    edited August 2009

    Hi ladies;  This AM #13 of 16 , with 3 to go.  Cant wait to finish.  No bra however bought 3 soft anti static camisoles.  I use one under street clothes.  I use one to sleep in to protect my skin. I use the third to wear as I spreadi the prescribed Biafin Topical Emulsion on breast which smears the sharpie marks on this camisole.  It does wash out and this system works well for me.  Take care of your selves.   Cathey

  • peg119
    peg119 Member Posts: 281
    edited August 2009

    How horrible.  I didn't think I would survive the x-rays on the first day and that only took 35 minutes.  It sure does make your arms hurt.  Hope you don't have to go through that again.

  • peg119
    peg119 Member Posts: 281
    edited August 2009

    I am right there with you.  I started on Tuesday.  So far it is okay.  My rad/onc said to use only Aloe and they will prescribe something else if I need it.  Good luck to all.  3 down, 27 to go.

  • ravenruth
    ravenruth Member Posts: 13
    edited August 2009

    Hi ladies, I just got marked up yesterday and I start my first day of radiation on this Monday at 1:30 PM EST andI am scared. I know not to use deoderant but I am afraid the sharpie black marks will come off when I shower. What kind of soap should I use during my 6 1/2 weeks of radiation. I shower daily. What am I to expect on my first day of treatment? Thanks four your help in this matter. God Bless and keep me in your prayers as I will you all.

  • kawee
    kawee Member Posts: 324
    edited August 2009

    Ravenruth - My sharpie mark (I have 3 tattoos also) is on some kind of a clear sticker.  I just wash, but not scrub the area.  It's still on fine after 12 days.  They look at it and said if it looks like to might come off, they'll just remark it.

     I was afraid too, but it takes longer to get undressed and dressed than it does to do the rad.

    You lay on a table, put your hands over your head, they get you lined up, and  the machine moves into place, then you hear a buzzing sound, I think it's about 30 seconds on one side, then the machine moves to the other and buzzes for another 30 seconds. That's it, you feel nothing.  At least that's the way mine are.  Tomorrow is day 10 and so far so good.  I'm a little tired, but I have lupus so I'm tired alot.  No breast redness, nothing. 

     I just tell myself right before it starts that Jesus has entered the building.  I picture his hands out sending healing light over my breast while the machine is buzzing. 

    You'll see, nothing to worry about. 

  • fmakj
    fmakj Member Posts: 1,278
    edited August 2009

    Ravenruth - I use dove.  You can use any really mild soap, but dove was recommended to me.  My tx is similar to kawee although even though I thought that each side took about 30 - 40 seconds, after counting, it was really 13 - 16 seconds!!  I'm on # 22 today and am visibly pinker and itchier!  But so far this has not been toooo bad.  Get your rest when you can!  Be Well All!

  • lemonjello
    lemonjello Member Posts: 75
    edited August 2009

    I spent some time in the waiting room today with other patients. . usually i get hustled into the rad room as i arrive, but today they were doing a first mapping with a new patient.  So we all conferred.  We are all a little nauseous, a little weird feeling, and very fatigued about six hours after rads.  We all confess to deep naps at times we have never napped before.  We have dry throats, heartburn, pain in the area, swelling to the breasts and scars, hardening of the breast, reddening, pinkish skin, and very hungry and at other times very thirsty.  OMG!!!  Going every day is getting to me, its my second week of 7 weeks.  That 7 weeks is a lower rad dose but longer time thing.  I was singing to everyone today "Friday's  the most wonderful day of the week" and the techs sang back " because its payday" and we laugh and drink water.  I even took my wig off when they  called my name and threw it at my husband to hold and got laughs from the patients and techs.  I love the crew there, they are the best.  But when i return to my onc on the 8th of October, my 66th birthday, i am going to tell him that for older patients, rads are not a walk in the park.  The hardest part is getting my already bad back and knees and neck on and off that damn table every morning!  And then all those symptoms besides.  I am not having fun but i am having that healing feeling.  Thank God.

  • kawee
    kawee Member Posts: 324
    edited August 2009

    I've noticed that really hungry thing too.  I eat lunch and I'm still really hungry.  Don't get that, maybe a way of our bodies telling us we need the extra nutrition.  Usually I try to ignore it.  Anyway, just finished #10 out of 35.  I'm really tired starting Thursday and by Monday morning feeling alot better.  We'll see how it keeps going.

  • O3132W
    O3132W Member Posts: 211
    edited August 2009

    lemonyellow:     I could have signed my name to your post.  SO TRUE   The only thing you left out was the sleepless nights of  one hour and then awake and over and over throughout the night of sleeplessness and dry coughing.  Add to that the unwelcome hot flashes that repeat through covers or no covers fight all night. 

    I had #14 of 16 shortened rad treatments this AM. Only two to go Monday and Tuesday.  Yes ladies it does finally end even if you dont think it will.  The emulsion cream prescribed by my rad onc kept my breast light pink with just a little redish under.  Guess it was good cream.  I have been warned to continue using creams for a couple of weeks after end of radiation as the breast can still go to red, blisters etc after last treatment.  Luck to all.   Cathey

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