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  • marejo
    marejo Member Posts: 1,356
    edited July 2009

    Good Morning Laura,

    I just came across your thread and felt led to respond.  I am now a 4 year NED survivor and SOOOOOOOOOOOO remember being where you are.  To be honest with you, the first year was the easiest for me.  Now, don't get me wrong......it was a tough time.  Scary.....depressing and a very unsure time BUT then I was doing something to rid myself of cancer and that made it easier.  The year after herceptin ended and for almost 1 full year I was very afraid and very anxious.  I swear I had a recurrence everyday.  That made be funny to read and ridiculous sounding but it's truly how I felt.  Every ache and pain (and some lasted weeks) I was sure was cancer.  In that year I had a bone scan and a CT scan (and scans isn't the "norm" for my onc. unless symptoms warrent them OR my onc. thinks I need them Undecided

    It's tough to "let it go" especially when we are told to "watch for symptoms."  How can you have had cancer and then watch for symptoms and think the symptoms could be anything BUT cancer, right? 

    All I can tell you is that it's a process.  This too shall pass Laura, I promise you.  Each time these thoughts of recurrence would occur and I would feel those thought stealing my joy I would say to myself...."STOP....at least for today you do not have cancer....as far as you know.....God already knows your tomorrows and what will be.....live your life today and leave it with Him.  IF something is wrong....it will come to light in time......for now, just let it go."  It did help me Laura and each day got a bit easier.

    Asking God to surround you with His peace today........Love to you.

    Mary Jo

  • EWB
    EWB Member Posts: 2,927
    edited July 2009

    Just take it one day at a time, enjoy each day, forget about yesterday and all its "stuff" good & bad, don't worry about tomorrow since you can't do anything about it.

    Yes cancer will always be "there" some where in your head, and I doubt that it is possible to turn that voice/thought off all together, just try to turn the volume down as much as you can. Don't be afraid of the emotions- let them out because keeping things in will only make matters worse and give you a bad tummy ache if not ulcers.

    Treatments are hard, a reminder of what is going on, but those treatments are keeping us alive.

    Hugs and prayers for you all. Know that you are never alone and with a little help, you can do anything, get thru anything.

  • Estepp
    Estepp Member Posts: 6,416
    edited July 2009

    You ladies are so great! Thanks for all the sharing and support. It is amazing ... all we go through..

    I was reading my new Cure Mag. Saturday... Just a great read about Herceptin in there.. and how it came out for stage 1,2,and 3 BC in 2006..anywhooo.. tears fell out of my eyes. Came out of no where...

    Cancer does change us... I really am about 80% the same person.. but that 20% new gal is strangely odd to  me....:)

    Blessed day to you all!

    Good to see you Mary Jo... I saw your picture page.. WONDERFUL! I am so happy for you, I just am!!!!

  • MRSROCKYTOP55
    MRSROCKYTOP55 Member Posts: 403
    edited July 2009

    Laura, I know exactly how you feel. You just want it to be over and done with.  At first there is so much support and calls and visits and then as time wears on you feel like it will never end and you just get plain tired of it all.  I think this is normal and it is a long time and if you are like me you kind of feel like you have no control over anything in your life.  I just have to trust that God knows what is going on and will support me if I just let Him.  We are all here for you and do understand how you feel.  It is a very very long road.  Hugs and Blessings, Kathy

  • clubmember5
    clubmember5 Member Posts: 15
    edited July 2009

    I think everyone suffers from post tramatic stress after a cancer diagnosis.  During treatment we feel lke we are figting and after treatment is over, we say now what???? I decided to take an antidepressant and it helped me so much.  I take Effexer XR.  That has to be a personal choice for you.  We will never say cured, but NED, and NED is a pretty neat guy!!!   I know some who have had a recurrance, but many more who have not.  We all stick together and demand money goes to research.  Women are a powerful group !!!   I was so angry for awhile, because i had three tumors and one microscopic node and never missed a mammogram.  The day I saw my oncologist for the first time he asked me how I was.  I said pissed off, that's how I am !!   He said I don't blame you, but we will take care of it.  That's what we all have to believe.  I still am a nervous wreck when I go for check ups, but hopefully that will ease with time.  Take care.

     Mary, clubmember5

    DX 10/17/06, IDC Stage 2, Grade 1, 1 microscopic node.  ER.PR+, her2 neg.

  • cmharris59
    cmharris59 Member Posts: 496
    edited July 2009

    Laura,

    I can relate to your being frustrated with the length of tx. I found my lump Jun 8th 2007. that day will be with me forever.  I had to finish my Herceptin tx in Jun 2008 due to ses.  I have been dealing with tx of the ses since then. I just saw my PS on Thursday and we are postponing my recon surgeies once again due to the ses. I have always been independent and not prone to emotional outbursts. Now I am taking 3 different anti-anxiety drugs and I have been dx with PTSD. I am also on Neurontin, Methadone, and Percocet for chronic pain.

    The only issues that I had prior to dx was my allergy related asthma. I am allergic to cats and own 5 of them. I got the cats before I developed the allergy, so there was no way that I could get rid of the babies.  I didn't need anti-anxiety meds, anti-depressants, or pain meds until after I started tx. 

    When I was dxed I thought the worst thing that I would have to face would be the surgery.  I came into this journey ready to take the chemo adn the rads and not have them bother me. I was active,  in good shape, and felt strong enough to take on the world.  I never expected to develop so many complications from the 2 surgeries that I have already had, the 2 rounds of chemo (AC&Taxol), and the 7 wks of rads, and still not be finished with tx... but ....

    Funny, how things change.  I have also had friends taht are constantly relating how some friend of a friend had bc and they breezed thru tx in record time and are doing great now. Well, I am happy for them but I didn't breeze thru it. I am still dealing with it. I still ahve the port in my chest, in case we resume teh Herceptin. Onc thinks we may try agian if my heart condition clears up.  I still have the expander in my chest.  I still have the risk of recurrence due to stopping the Herceptin tx.   I am unemployed and on disability. The chronic pain of neuropathy and breathlessness from CHF are with me every waking moment. and Those are frequent. I am an insomniac now.  As a result every day that I am here, I am reminded of my cancer.  Hopefully that too shall pass.

    I am single and my family lives far away. Theyare very supportive but they are not here. They do not understand what it is like to start tx thinking that everything will be over in 1-1/2 to 2 years adn to still find yourself in tx 2 yrs later with an end nowhere in sight.  Unfortunately, they want to blame the doctors for incompetence.  Who knows why this had to drag on so long? At this point I don't care I am just tired.

    Hugs to all ofyou! I have to go for another mammo on the good breast this next week and another MUGA heart scan adn an appt with onc to flush my port the following week.  My onc does not want to schedule a PET until after my surgeries are finished. Meanwhile I do not feel cancer free, I do not feel that I have completed anything yet. Maybe I never will, but I did think once upon a time a long time ago in a world far far away that I would be completely totally finished by now. getting on with my life... I do so understand whatyou are feeling. I nowalso see a psychiatrist, a new development. he is the one that dxed the PTSD. He says that it is perfectly normal to feel this way considering that we are not even POST the trauma. We are still living with it every day.

    Again, hugs to all ofyou adn hope that your tx runs smooth and finishes quickly with if not great results at least acceptable results that you can tolerate.Sorry for the typos... my neuropathy is in my hands as well asmy legs. Sometimes they shake as if I had palsy. And sorry for the ranting. It seems that whenever I post they are longwinded posts. Mayhbe because I don't post often.

  • Baxter
    Baxter Member Posts: 234
    edited August 2009

    Laura,

    I really don't have the right to complain compared to everyone else, but I just wanted you to know that I think about the "dates" of everything too. I have always been one who remembers dates of every eventful occasion...good or bad.

    This month last year was when I had my first "routine" biopsy for a pesky cyst. I rememeber the date of the phone call that said I needed more tests. I remember ALL the dates in September.... the 2nd biopsy.... the date I heard the word "cancer" and "mastectomy" in the same sentence..... the date (my DH's birthday) when they did the MRI because they thought the other breast might have invasive cancer....the date of the 5 needle biopsy....the call giving the date of my October mastectomy surgery.

    I always thought that PTSS was for war veterans and others...I never thought I would be feeling it....yet here I am. It sneaks up on you. Sometimes even now when I say cancer or mastectomy I can't believe I'm talking about myself. In some ways it feels more devistating now than in the beginning.

    So, just know that I'm with you on this. I so enjoy your posts on the other threads. You have just the sweetest heart.

    Candi 

  • Estepp
    Estepp Member Posts: 6,416
    edited August 2009

    ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((( Candi)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

    Here is one great big hug for you... your dates are right upon you huh? grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

    I agree with you.. it is harder now I think, to believe I HAD CANCER..

    I hope between now and the end of Oct.... you mind stays full of prayer and happiness and peace. Bless you sweety.... BLESS YOU !

    Thank you ladies for picking me up.. sharing your stories ... and just being you!

  • Makratz
    Makratz Member Posts: 12,678
    edited August 2009

    I have my first cancerversary in June and felt awful.  I think we all do.  I'm happy for all the friends I have made on these threads.  We need o continue to support each other.  I hope you are feeling better, Estepp.  I'm glad that most of your treatment is now behind you.  I do understand another 6 months is  long time, but the rest of your life is so worth it.

    Hang in there.

    HUGS xoxoxox

    Linda

  • my560sel
    my560sel Member Posts: 1,065
    edited August 2009

    Laura: I'm having my 1st anniversary of  being DX on Jan 15th. But I think the anniversary that's going to bother me the most is the day that I had my mammogram (Oct 28th) and the Dr saw something "abnormal" and I never found out until Dec 1st. I fell through the cracks as they say.....

    The one thing I try to hold onto is who  I was before I was diagnosed. I was happy and  had a great life and yet there was something growing inside of me that I didn't even know was there. It was in me and I was oblivious. So why now, when after numerous tests, I KNOW there's nothing inside me should I feel anxious and scared? But I am. I think only time can heal our minds into trusting our bodies again, but it'll come - day by day. You've come so far, be proud of yourself.

    Terri

  • Estepp
    Estepp Member Posts: 6,416
    edited August 2009
  • jancie
    jancie Member Posts: 2,631
    edited August 2009

    Laura - I was just asked today if my treatments were over.  Let's see.....I have done chemo and surgery - NO!  I just started rads and I might have some reconstruction done.  I tactfully explained that my treatment will take 1-1/2 years.  What people don't realize is the time needed in between the different treatments and yes....it seems to take forever.  I was diagnosed December 30th last year - Happy New Year to me!  I figure I won't be done with treatments until at least March of next year.

    What is strange for me is that as long as I am in treatment I feel like I am fighting this awful BC - my let down for me will be when I am done with treatments and always wondering in the back of my head if I am going to have a recurrence because in my blonde brain I feel as though as long as I am in treatment (like I am now) then I can't have a recurrence.  But once those treatments are over - what then?

    I am so looking forward to meeting you in VEGAS!

  • sahalie
    sahalie Member Posts: 2,147
    edited August 2009

    Hi Laura.  I am checking in this evening and there was your thread at the top of the page.  I am with you as so many of us are right along with you with your feelings.  I am three years from dx and bilat. mast.  I just had my annual six month check up last week and for some reason this time around I was really very nervous.  Especially getting the blood work done.  I don't know why.  Just a feeling.  We all know those feelings.  My appt. went fine and my blood work and TM were just fine.  Rather than huge relief I am feeling major gratefullness.  To the big soul talker upstairs.

    I thank my lucky stars.  But I also pay attention to these feelings and try so hard to put them in check so they don't get the better of me.  That is what I wish for you Laura.  That you in all you are going thru can put some of your feelings in check even for a day and just be you and enjoy the happiness that I know must come back to you ten fold as I know how you reach out to others with your great big happy loving smile and friendship.

    I hope this new week will be an easy one for you. 

    Love always.  Sahalie

  • Estepp
    Estepp Member Posts: 6,416
    edited August 2009

    I get that Mellisa... I sure do!

    (((Vegas))).. me too... so much

  • Estepp
    Estepp Member Posts: 6,416
    edited August 2009

    Sahalie... dear friend... Thank you for that.

    I so know I am not alone.. we all go through this. I hate it for us all!

    I think I will choose to have a easy week.. a good one too!

    I hope you do too!

  • my560sel
    my560sel Member Posts: 1,065
    edited August 2009

    Laura: I was seeing my BS last week and he said to me with a big smile "Well, soon you won't be coming to the hospital as often and you can get on with your life" and I burst into tears. I couldn't stop crying. The poor man  didn't know what to say. When I finally got a hold of myself I managed to say "the further away I am from the hospital, the more nervous I get" and he replied, "That's funny, most people would say the closer they get to the hospital, the more nervous they get". I guess it's all in the way you look at it. This BC has played with our minds and bodies and changed our lives forever. We have to let go and try to get back to what we were before all this otherwise, IT'S won. And none of us have gone through all we've gone through to throw in the towel just when it's going to get good again....((((HUGS)))) and here's hoping you never let go of that wonderful spirit of yours. YOU'VE HELPED SO MANY, MYSELF INCLUDED - THAT SHOULD KEEP YOU SMILING EVERY DAY............

    Terri

  • diana50
    diana50 Member Posts: 2,134
    edited August 2009

    this whole experience of having cancer is exhausting.  first there is treatment....which goes on for months.  then (for some of us estrogen +) there is hormone treatment.  then there are the visits for blood work and followup..which pretty much goes on and on.  i was living in three month intervals...for awhile...now i see the oncologist every 6 months.  i suspect i will see my oncologist for the rest of my life...doing the blood work and being reminded that i am a "warrior..survivor" of cancer.  well, i accept the reality of having cancer 7 years ago.  what else can i do? 

    we are awesome women...and men who are dealing with this disease. the good news is that there are all kinds of improvements in treatment.  i really chuckle when i think i was in a clinical trial in 2002 for TAC..and now it is standard treatment for node positive.  i read all the boards..from DCIS to stage IV boards and i am amazed at the strength and compassion of the people dealing with this disease.  we are amazing.  we are strong....we have our pity parties...we recover...we rise...we share...we talk to each other..we support each other....so this disease has changed my life in so many ways.  this website is priceless.

    hugs to all....hang in...be proud of your struggles....we are alive as we post**

    diana50

  • Estepp
    Estepp Member Posts: 6,416
    edited August 2009

    (((TERRI))))

    Thank you..

    Diana... no joke sister!

  • connette
    connette Member Posts: 33
    edited August 2009

    I love this thread.  It makes me realize that my new rollercoaster life is part of breast cancer and I'm not the only one with all these fears and emotions.  One day I wonder why know one calls or writes, the next day I am upset because people are to "nice".  I do not post very often, but I do recognize some of the names and appreciate all the wise advice.  I read every day but I get so confused on what topic  or which ladies I should be communicating  with.  I do know that I find strength in everyone.  Thank you for keeping me fighting.  Connette

  • kbram
    kbram Member Posts: 185
    edited August 2009

    Laura,  This whole "cancer thing" is so exhausting!  Not only for our physical beings but our mental state as well.  I have told friends repeatedly when asked how I am doing, that I will be so grateful for the day I can put it all behind me.  I would love to get up in the morning without bc the first thing I think about.  There are constant reminders, from reconstruction issues just getting out of bed, to looking in the mirror and seeing short chemo hair.  One day we all will be able to go on with life and hopefully look back on this time as just a fading memory.  Here's to FADING MEMORIES!!!  Hugs to all.

    Kathy

  • Estepp
    Estepp Member Posts: 6,416
    edited August 2009
    Connette.. if you get confused who you should be talking to here.. then just talk to ALL OF US ....:) :).. so many great ladies here... just jump in and be a home...:) ((HUG))
  • Estepp
    Estepp Member Posts: 6,416
    edited August 2009

    Right on Kathy, right on!

  • chrisct
    chrisct Member Posts: 2,662
    edited August 2009

    Connette, I am so with you on the confused feelings.  I too sometimes feel abandoned when I don't hear from my friends, yet when my friend says all sorts of sweet things to me to try to lift my spirits, I don't want to hear it.  I don't tell her that, of course, but why can't I appreciate what she is trying to do for me? I guess I don't want to feel better.  I've been having a big time pity party the last few weeks - in chemo - not adjusting to the new hairstyle...

  • Estepp
    Estepp Member Posts: 6,416
    edited August 2009
  • PATTY50
    PATTY50 Member Posts: 75
    edited August 2009

    It is a rollercoaster.  I had highs and lows during chemo especially when I was nearing the end of 12 weeks of taxol. I don't know why it hit me hard then but suddenly I felt that I could't plan for the future because I would jinx myself.  Driving to  radiation treatments I would cry in the car and then during the treatments themselves.  I couldn't believe that I was going through this. That this was my llife. It wa surreal. It is scary not knowing what the future holds.  I had 2 positive nodes, and this adds to my worry.  I am still going through reconstruction due to two failed implants.  I am having surgery again at the end of September, this time a stacked DIEP and am hoping that once the surgeries are done it will be easier to gone on with living my life. I thank all of you for sharing your stories. 

    Patty

  • Estepp
    Estepp Member Posts: 6,416
    edited August 2009

    (((Patty)))

    I hope you can get on with your life too sweety! This WILL BE your last surgery...

  • kbram
    kbram Member Posts: 185
    edited August 2009

    Hi all,

    I can't believe I missed my cancer anniversary!!  It was last week (Aug 18) but my MIL died a couple of days before and I completely forgot about it.  Oh well, it's not like we were going out to celebrate.  So much has happened this past year it hardly seems real. I had exchange surgery four weeks ago and everything is going fine (where did the time go?)  I will be glad when I can get over the "hump" and get back to being me and not just a person with bc.  Anyway, good luck to all who feel this way and may we all get back to being ourselves.

    Hugs, Kathy

  • holligoog
    holligoog Member Posts: 75
    edited September 2009

    I was just told by my Onc the other day that I was suffering from PTSD. Dx 12/08 with Triple-Neg BC. It's been a long and traumatic road that I have had to basically fight alone (my divorce became final in Feb. 2009- 2 weeks after my first surgery). My Onc put me on an anti-depressant last week. Recently I cry all of the time and that is NOT like me!

    I found this poem and I try to focus on the message~

    My Battle - My Victory

    Yesterday I fought a Battle, But I did not fight alone-

    I had a Protector - A Guide, I was never on my own

    This enemy came to me suddenly, No warning as to prepare-

    And before I knew what happened, this enemy was everywhere.

    I felt so overwhelmed; Did no one know my pain?

    How could this be happening to me, How did it know my name?

    Today I fight this battle, The enemy with me still

    It has not yet taken control, Nor has it broke my will

    It is hurtful and it is cruel, It doesn't care the damage it causes

    It is wearing down my defenses; I can soon count my losses.

    It is ruthless and emotionless, Its purpose to destroy

    I can not, must not let it, Will not let it have control

    Hear me when I tell you, Please listen when I say

    I have many scars from this battle; I do struggle from day to day

    It takes many things from me; Within my body it has much power

    It affects loved ones around me; The battle has become a war

    You may not know by looking at me, Then again maybe you can,

    That this enemy shows no mercy, I fall when I can no longer stand

    It does not care what age you are, or your status here on Earth

    It doesn't count your income, or what you think you are worth

    This battle that I speak of, CANCER is its name

    And because I continue to fight, I will never be the same!

    Tomorrow may never come for me; I live only in the present

    My life is right here, right now, What I have is this very moment

    But I will continue to fight, For I learned down on my knees

    is where I fight this battle, It is where God gives me the victory.

  • Estepp
    Estepp Member Posts: 6,416
    edited September 2009

    Thank you so much for sharing this poem. WOW.. I see why you too to it.

    I pray you are feeling better soon when the meds kick in. I do understand.. we all really do..

    We are here for you sister!

    May I have your permission to use this poem on my blog?

  • kbram
    kbram Member Posts: 185
    edited September 2009

    Holligoog, what a wonderful poem that truly expresses how we all feel.  It is a constant battle and struggle every day.  Sometimes we don't show these feelings on the outside but they are there on the inside.  Thanks for the post.

    Laura, I just found your blog and have enjoyed it so much.  I would love to join you gals in Vegas, but not this year.  Maybe next year.  In your own words.  whooooooooooohoooooooooo, ya'll have a great time and I can't wait to hear details or will it be "what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas"?????  Hugs to all

    Kathy

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