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  • jenn3
    jenn3 Member Posts: 3,316
    edited August 2009

    Good afternoon - Welcome new Amazons!!!! It's been busy since I checked in last.  So far I am handling tx #2 much better than #1.  However, yesterday and today I've been really tired and have that shaky feeling again.  I know getting out and walking is the best thing to regain energy, but yesterday we had storms all day and today it was so humid I was afraid to get to far away from home with that weird shaky feeling I get. The thrush is gone, but my mouth is so dry and sensitive that I can only eat room temperature soft food - ugh!!!!  The hair thing is weird, all of my little stubbles on my head are falling out like crazy, but I'm still shaving under my arms and legs - what's that all about?????

    Titch - thanks for the upbeat message - chemo does a number on our bodies in so many ways, it's good to have a reminder as to why we are doing this.

    Manue - you are braver than you think............and remember sometimes you just have to laugh.

    Karen - you'll do fine with the buzz cut and be a pro at scarves in no time.

    Yasmin - it sounds like you and I have that crazy mouth thing going on, sorry the stomach is still bothering you.  The upside is your friends are throwing you a wonderful hat party.

    I hope everyone has a good Saturday with minimal SE's Cool

  • kristin09
    kristin09 Member Posts: 56
    edited August 2009

    Hi all,

    I missed you all and it's only been a few days since I posted!  As others have noticed . . . so many new folks - welcome!  Just spent time catching up on everyone's status and glad to hear that, for the most part, all are well.

    This is day #16 for me and tx #2 is this Friday.  I feel great and have been working and exercising regularly.  Reni - I'm with you with respect to the exercise.  I have my first session On Wednesday with the personal trainer that I was assigned for the study that I'm in - I can't wait!

    My hair started coming out yesterday (day 15) and I'm trying to decide whether or not to shave it. I could probably go a few more days but don't see much reason to put off the inevitable.  We'll see how I feel tomorrow.  I had a very rough morning this morning, emotionally, my first rough one yet.  The hair loss on top of an annoying hematoma in my breast that is draining like crazy (I don't even have a drain . . . my incision broke open slightly during a follow-up mammogram and I have a half-inch hole oozing blood).  Fun, eh?  Anyway, the combination of the two was leaving me feeling less than attractive.  My DH was doing his best to console me - he's awesome, but I was having a bit of a pity party.  I'm over it now and figure that it's okay every once in a while. It's funny, I should have been consoling my DH because he just had a vasectomy yesterday since I won't be on birth control anymore.  What a guy.

    Anyway, enough about me.  Luddy & Jenndogs, I am on TCH as well and am a bit ahead of you two.  So far I have tolerated the treatment very well and have been working every day except weekends since.  I have also rarely missed a day of exercise.  Early on, my body couldn't decide between constipation and diarrhea, so be warned.  The most persistent SE, as many are experiencing, is the dry/sore mouth although that has been much better this last week.  Good luck to you both!

    Karina - I noticed that you're Her2/neu+ and on AC; I chose TCH but was offered AC.  We'll have to compare notes!

    Smore - I see that you're on TCH as well and it sounds like we have similar SEs.  Hang in there, girl!

    Karen -  my treatment buddy!  I read that you're shaving today . . . that might just inspire me. We started tx on the same day, may as well shave on the same day too, eh?

    Sheila - I had to laugh when I read your post about referring to your port as an outlet.  I tap on mine every once in a while and say "testing, testing" like it's a microphone.  It's in the right place for one and it makes me feel like a secret agent!  Okay, maybe not a secret agent, but you know what I mean!

    Sorry for the long post, just catching up.  Hope that you all have a great finish to your weekend!

  • YoYo44
    YoYo44 Member Posts: 203
    edited August 2009

    Hi ladies,

     Just checking in after a long week.  Welcome to all the new ladies.  Thanks for all the kind words.  I am still doing well with the SE's and my hair is still hanging in (in all locations!).  TX 4 was good.  My DH was off for leave so he accompanied me which was nice. 

    Yesterday was the memorial and reception and I am now just exhausted.  My main SE is fatigue which I manage but yesterday and this week was just loooong.  DH and family are all just adjusting today.  It was wonderful all being together to support each other.  Then today a couple of good friends came by with a shopping bag full of frozen soups and dinners to help get ready for school.  It just shows you how there are still so many good things in all the hard times.

    Titch, welcome to our group.  Thanks for your good advice and experience.  Tough though this experience is we are all lucky to be getting such great care.  I was just thinking that if we had been born 100 years ago it would have been very different.

    Hope the sun is shining where everyone is.  Have a great weekend everyone!

  • smore
    smore Member Posts: 16
    edited August 2009

    Thanks ladies for the welcome.  I am doing more reading than posting at the moment trying to make some sense of everything that has transpired this weekend. Just wanted to report today was a good day energy wise, feel more like myself.

  • PamsPromise
    PamsPromise Member Posts: 97
    edited August 2009

    Hi everyone: I had my first treatment last Tuesday the 18th. Everything has went well. Never got sick, nauseated or anything. Went out to eat dinner with my family tonight. I seem to have a lot of energy and since I am getting CMF the methotrexate has really helped my rheumatoid arthritis. My chemo nurse said I may not lose my hair since a lot of patients on CMF don't. I hope she is right but if I do then I do. As long as I keep feeling like I am now I am not going to worry about my hair. I wish the rest of you good luck if you are beginning your treatments and for those that are having problems right now my prayers are with you. Take care and God Bless.

  • Titch
    Titch Member Posts: 141
    edited August 2009

    Hi again all, hope you are all keeping well

    Thoughts are with any of you suffering from SE today and hope for a better day tomorrow......

    A quote I found prior to my first session of chemo, that is so true for us all "Courage is being scared to death but saddling up anyway" ~John Wayne.

  • jenn3
    jenn3 Member Posts: 3,316
    edited August 2009

    My crazy life - I was back at the ER again last night.  I had casually mentioned to the dr that after the first tx that I noticed my heart raced, like I was nervous, but mentally wasn't nervous.  He was upset that I hadn't mentioned it and said if it happened again to call.  Well, it happened again last night around 7p, didn't stop, called and of course I had to go in to be checked.  I know chemo is hard on the heart and they have to watch it closely, but really!! This is my second ER visit.  My heart is okay, but they will continue to monitor the situation.  I did wake up this morning feeling much better than I have the last two days - thank goodness.  I will try to enjoy the day - I think today will be our first rain free day in the last two weeks - Whoo Hoo!!!

    Titch - love the quote!!!

  • PamsPromise
    PamsPromise Member Posts: 97
    edited August 2009

    Hi Titch:  I love the quote.  When they started my chemo I said to my husband...this is the point of no return and laughed but we do what we have to do to beat this horrible disease.  I hope your treatment goes well.  I have had no side effects yet but I have to admit I am bound and determined not to suffer like I did with the lumpectomy and am doing everything in my power to prevent any of the side effects I was told I may encounter.  I brush my teeth 4 times a day with sensitive toothpaste with flouride and then with baking soda (my chemo nurse old me not to use salt with the baking soda as it is too abrasive)..  I use Aquaphor on my lips and gargle with 10 drops of Gly-oxide twice a day.  I also  drink 3 liters of water a day.  I ordered folinic acid which will be here for treatment number 2.  I am on CMF and it reverses the toxic effect of methotrexate one of the meds in my chemo that causes sores in your mouth.  I  have tried my best to get some kind of exercise every day.  I also take a multi vitamin that has folic acid in it but I also take another 400 mcg a day to rebuild red blood cells.  I will not let this chemo get me.  I just think we all have to dig in and be proactive in our own treatment.  You have a great attitude and I am so glad to be in this group with you as well as all the other brave ladies.  Take care and God Bless all of you. 

  • gillyone
    gillyone Member Posts: 1,727
    edited August 2009

    Jenn - so sorry you have to put up with so much! But you have a great attitude.

    Pam -you have a great attitude also. Being pro-active with the side effects can only help.

    I am day 5 out from tx3 and still doing well.

    Have a great day ladies!

  • Titch
    Titch Member Posts: 141
    edited August 2009

    We shared so many ideas in the May chemo thread, of what alleviates the SE.  I was very blessed the first time to be so well and whilst I did have SE of the drugs  it was not a hinderance and definitely manageable to where I was able to work full time. I was definitely one of the lucky ones. 

    I highly recommend:

    Omega 3 vitamins (Fish oil)

    Vitamin D

    Calcium vitamins

    Orange and apple juice

    Ginger beer /ale

    Avoid sugar

    Mouthwash regularly (helped with teeth and gum probs)

  • Karen09
    Karen09 Member Posts: 320
    edited August 2009

    Well ladies I had my hair buzzed short and it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be.  I was expecting to have a meltdown but it hasn't come yet.  It's really nice not to have to pick up long strands of it all over the place anymore.  My friends were great during it.  I had a bday party to go to that night and I wasn't going to go but I was feeling good so I went and had a terrific time! 

    Jenn - sorry you haven't been feeling well again.  You haven't had an easy time of this for sure!  I'll be thinking of you.

    Kristin - good luck with the hair!  We're all with you in spirit!  I hope your incision is healing.  That does not sound fun!  Are you going for #2 this Friday?  I am - those three weeks in between have sure flown by. 

    Take care everyone!!

  • kristin09
    kristin09 Member Posts: 56
    edited August 2009

    Good morning everyone,

    My hair is officially gone!  I woke up yesterday morning and my scalp hurt quite a bit, not to mention the amount of hair on the pillow. I kept waking up in the night with hair in my nose or mouth! So, DH shaved it off while the kids peeked around the corner. After it was done, my son thought that it was pretty cool because I look like Asajj Ventress from Star Wars - The Clone Wars (gillyone - I had to think of you because of the Star Wars reference!). He wanted to play Star Wars so he could be Obi Wan and we could battle. I actually felt very strong and very proud when the hair was gone. It made me feel like I'm facing things head-on and ready for anything.

    Afterward, however, I went to do some shopping and that was a strange experience. I wore one of my new hats and was never quite comfortable. From now on, when I'm in public, people will know that I have cancer and it's a bit strange. I got home and wasn't sure what to do: should I keep the hat on? Take it off? So, after taking the hat off I went upstairs and cried for a while. DH keeps telling me how pretty I am and how lucky I am that I can pull off being bald. He's so sweet.

    Other than the hair, I feel great. Rode the bike, as usual, this morning and have a strong appetite. 

    Karen - yep, #2 on Friday.  We'll see what that one throws at us, eh? 

    Titch - thanks for all of the tips; it's amazing to think of all of the knowledge we've gained in such a short timeframe!

    Have a great day!

    K

  • NavyMom
    NavyMom Member Posts: 1,099
    edited August 2009

    Oh Kristen, you have put into words what I have been thinking.  I truly thank you for talking about your feelings.  The part about being in public and everyone knowing that you have cancer really struck me.  I am on Day 7/TAC #1.  I have already gone for a short haircut and DH and I just discussed who would be elected(and have the honor) to give me a Buzz when the time comes.  Had my own pity party just this morning over the hair thing.  I have tried to be prepared by getting my wig and buying or sewing several hats and scarves.  But I am not really ready after all.  Last night my head felt kinda "tingly"  It was just a reality reminder that this is really happening to me.

    Thank you to all the women on this sight.  You are my lifeline.  And I am so grateful that we found each other to get through this unwanted journey.

    Navy

  • yasminv1
    yasminv1 Member Posts: 238
    edited August 2009

    Hi Ladies,

    I woke up yesterday morning with a swollen bottom lip. It is still swollen but not as bad as yesterday. My family and friends put together a hat party for me. It was very lovely but I felt like crap all day. I had flu like body aches and 99.9 temp. Just felt crummy but managed to have a nice time anyhow. I am feeling alot better today. This afternoon I go in for my TE fill. Only 3 to go after this one. I am dreading it as I ache each time they fill me. Still no word on if I have a stomach infection or not. My stomach is still not back to normal yet.

    jenn3 - You poor thing! I hope you are feeling better hun! I am glad they are monitoring you closely.

    kristin09 - I admire your positive attitude. I fear having a meltdown when my hair falls off. I pray I am as strong as you.

    Take Care Everyone. I hope everyone has a wonderful day.

    Yasmin

  • jenn3
    jenn3 Member Posts: 3,316
    edited August 2009

    Good morning - Well I woke up this morning feeling sorry for myself, no particular reason other than I just woke up on the wrong side of the bed.  I've been okay with the hair thing, learned to tie scarves, not felt bad going out, but today I woke up looked in the mirror and just didn't want to see myself - so I tied a bandana around my head and curled up on the sofa.  Then realized, sitting around feeling sorry for myself isn't doing any good.  Today is an absolutely beautiful day and due to a "cool" front we have low humidity and temps in the high 80's instead of the high 90's -  so I took the dogs out for a walk.  Then I came home and threw two pots of beans on the stove, one vegetarian for my oldest daughter and the other with ham and sausage for the rest of the family.  I'm feeling a little better emotionally and am sure I'll get out of the funk later today.  I've been really working on eating healthier, but at this moment I am eating a bowl of coconut milk ice cream, which wouldn't be too bad, but today, self pity day I decided to top it with chocolate syrup!!!

    Kristen - I am so sorry you had a meltdown, but it sounds like your DH has been wonderful! 

    Yasmin - I'm sorry your lip is swollen - is there an infection?  I know the temp isn't to the 100.4,but maybe call the dr because it's getting close. 

    Karen - You did it!! Whoo Hoo..........  It seems most of us have reached or are very close to the no hair thing.

    Titch - I've done a lot of research, but it seems I've missed info on VIT D, but have seen a lot about it in these threads. How does VIT D help with BC? 

    Navymom - I'm with you - everyone here are amazing women and a wonderful support system!

  • NavyMom
    NavyMom Member Posts: 1,099
    edited August 2009

    Chocolate can help fix just about anything!

  • Reni
    Reni Member Posts: 81
    edited August 2009

    Hope everyone is doing well... just checking in.... nothing new.... Laughing

    yasminv1 - cant wait to hear how the party went ...

  • karina_il
    karina_il Member Posts: 29
    edited August 2009

    Hi! I'm 5 days after chemo, doing well, hopipng it will not get worse.

    Somebody can tell me, each time after AC treatment it get worse?

    Thank you.

  • lindal52809
    lindal52809 Member Posts: 25
    edited August 2009

    I thought I'd pop in after the weekend and say Hello everyone. Am at work today, and I'm still dealin with the sore gums, but it was much milder this morning.  Man yesterday, it was like everything i did made it uncomfortable. But I got thru that.

    Meet my Onc tomorrow to talk about my SE's.  Hopefully no changes need to be made to the schedule.  But we'll see.

    Thanks for the list TItch. I never knew ginger ale tasted so good. I've added the Calcium & D to my daily routine. And I have don't think I've had a cleaner mouth in my whole life, as I do with all the rinsing I've been doing the last 4 days.  Juice has always been in my fridge, so that's a given.

    Sorry to hear about the problems some of you are having. Am thinking of you as usual. When I read about it, I close my eyes and say a little prayer for each of you. Probably looks like I'm sleeping while reading my pc sometime.  But if it helps I'll keep doing just that.    

  • gillyone
    gillyone Member Posts: 1,727
    edited August 2009

    Karina - I am on dose dense AC and had tx3 on Wednesday. No it does not necessarily get worse with each tx. I have done pretty well with SEs - constipation, heartburn and mouth sores. I know how to handle these and keep them under control. The thing that is uncontrollabe is fatigue. I seem to have one day between txs where I am wiped out. Otherwise, yes I am more tired but just do what I can each day.

    What still tastes good? chocolate, apple/cranberry juice, soup, potatoes (in any shape or form). But I am disappointed that I am not enjoying the tomatoes from our garden! Oh well, DH assures me they taste good.

  • jenn3
    jenn3 Member Posts: 3,316
    edited August 2009

    I am doing DD AC and actually did much better on tx #2 with the SE's. They were either better and/or controlled with medication. The only thing different was that I was more tired on day 3 & 4 after tx, which was fine it was weekend and I just slept it off.  I like potatoes, but have found that since I started chemo - I love and crave them too!  My taste are a bit out of whack, but I just keep saying it's temporary. 

  • Luddy
    Luddy Member Posts: 11
    edited August 2009

    Kristen09...thanks for the update and candid feelings about your hair loss.  I read on TCH it takes 14-17 days and you were right on schedule.  I have circled 9/1 as my " hair watch" day given my tx schedule, so we will see.

    Any one have any suggestions for indigestion?  I have been taking generic Pepcid and it is working for short periods of times.   But it seems everything I eat is giving me indigestion.

  • Kayel
    Kayel Member Posts: 28
    edited August 2009

    Hi Ladies~

    Luddy~  My doctor suggested I take 1 Prilosec daily for heartburn since I am prone to it.  That has helped alot as I have not had any problems.  I know how uncomfortable it is.  Good luck!

    I am feeling well today.  Day 3 and 4 were tough for me although it could have been a whole lot worse.  I was just nauseated and really tired.. I have now had headaches for the past 2 days but more energy .  No real food problems.  Just a couple of things that make me heave just thinking of eating them.  I ate Salmon salad the day of treatment and now can not even think of it without feeling sick.  Has that happened to anyone else.  I am thinking I better be careful to not pick any favorite foods on tx day.

    It sounds like everyone is making out well.  I am sorry that I am not better at keeping individuals straight.  Just reading everyone's posts is a great deal of support to me.  My next tx is the 2nd

    Have a good night Ladies

  • jennsdogs
    jennsdogs Member Posts: 56
    edited August 2009

    Wow! It took me awhile to catch up. I was in Lynchburg visiting my 99 year old granddad - still living on his own.  I took my kids up to see him and they all enjoyed each other. We helped out in his garden (although the 1yo just eats all the tomatoes!)  I missed reading all of your encouragement but had to admit that I went on facebook first and posted all my pictures of the wigs to get a vote on which ones everyone liked.  I have curly hair so, of course, I went straight for most of the wigs - ha! The lady at the shop said that curly hair doesn't do well in wigs.  The "80s" look - did it in high school. Not doing it again.  The one curly wig I had no one likes so far! Does that mean no one likes my hair now??!!Undecided


    I get the port placed tomorrow and the chemo on Thursday this week.  UGH!  My son heard me talk about it to someone and asked me today - I almost cried telling him what was going on, but he just said that he didn't care and after looking at the wig pictures, he said I looked good in all of them, but couldn't figure out how they took my hair off and put it back on after??  I couldn't cry after that - just laugh.  And he is getting ready to start kindergarten next week!! Love him to pieces!

    Manue:  I am starting chemo Thurs too, guess we will be chemo dates. HA!  I am getting TCH.  Are you getting a port, or just the IVs each time?  How are you feeling?

    Luddy:  I am taking notes on you...  It will help me no doubt!  (Thanks) Can you take Tums for indigestion?  It has a lot of calcium too.  When I was pregnant the dr. recommended it for both reasons.  However, the taste might not be so good for you? 

    By the way, does anyone have any suggestions for certain foods that they like, I know everyone is different but I want to go grocery shopping before I get too sick. 

    Kristin:  Your DH is awesome!  Hope mine proves to be that good but he has to take care of the kids AND me.  Let me know how the personal trainer goes. I tried getting on that website (Lance Armstrong) but couldn't figure out how to see if I could get in that study.  I hope I can keep biking. I put my daughter on the back of mine now, and we just go for an hour or so  - she loves it, I hope I don't loose that time.  I am going to work hard at not loosing it but with work starting and days getting shorter, I have to really push myself!  Needing encouragement for this.

    Reni:  I am looking to keep up the exercising! I know how much it helps my mind now and in the past so it should do the same.  I have figured it might not be good to go to the gym during all of this due to germs?? Or am I being too worried? 

    Kim09:  I am going to ask tomorrow about the swimming, although as I asked Reni, not sure if I should even be in a public pool?  What do you do? 

    Titch: You are awesome! Thanks for the encouragement and do you mind if I use that quote for myself now??

    Jenn3:  I hope your heart is o.k. At least they are watching it!  Keep us posted.  I know the rain doesn't help moods especially when you want to get outside and exercise!  Sounds like you are on the East Coast too with your weather.  My thoughts are with you.  Enjoy the foods your friends give you, very special!

    Hope everyone has a good day tomorrow!  One of my kids I used to coach several years ago when she was in high school wants to come over and cook my family dinner. She is only 21, whoever thought a 21 yo would be that thoughtful AND she is only in town for a week in between college break. I am touched, some of my old kids even offered to shave their hair with me!  Good kids!!!!

    Good night.

  • manue
    manue Member Posts: 34
    edited August 2009
    Having a hard time to catching with everybody!!!
    Jenndogs - So happy somebody is starting Chemo on the same day as I am! I got my port last wednesday and the nurses used it today for blood samples. I HAD to have a port because my veins are very small and rolling and with a bilateral mastectomy the nurses don't want to use your veins! Feeling really good, my neck and shoulder around the port are feeling tight/sore today... I'm getting TH (Taxol/Herceptin) weekly for 12 weeks then Herceptin for 9 months every 3 weeks!
     
    I was going to write more but I'm just too tired tonight, I had a busy day with my Kids...
  • buccaneersdj
    buccaneersdj Member Posts: 241
    edited August 2009

    Cry  Sorry I have not posted in a while, I have been keeping up with you guys on my Blackberry but feel so far removed. A few of you will remember my head shaving party that almost never happened on August 15th, well One of my good friends did come up and helped me, my DH and son all shave our heads. Sadly later that afternoon my sister-in-law called us frantic to come to my mother-in-laws house 2 blocks away. They had arrived at her house for the weekend only to find her deceased in her car still running in the driveway, no warning. My mom-in-law was only 62, my DH is devistated wandering what else can be piled on him. I had a housefull of family all week and my TX#2 on the day of the funeral, needless to say my worst chemo yet. The family has been gone since Saturday and I have been in bed ever since. I am more sore than ever and so nauseated , nothing smells good or taste good. Turns out my mom-in-law had heart disease and never knew it, at least never told us of any symptoms, she was a nurse and never went to the doctor. My mom died in 2006 from breast cancer and she was the closest thing I had left to a "mom". I hope I don't sound too greedy but really don't care if I do but this is hard to go thru without a mom!

  • Titch
    Titch Member Posts: 141
    edited August 2009

     Hi everyone

    I hope you are all having an excellent day.  Two more sleeps till I have my next session of tx.....  

    Jenn: I don't know about the vitamin D it was something my oncologist told me about but I have found info online about Vitamin D deficiency and cancer. 

    http://www.boneandcancerfoundation.org/pdfs/Vitamin_D_Booklet.pdf 

    Jennsdog: Use the quote....I sure John Wayne won't mind me sharing it hehehe  I actually found it online.....

    Linda: :) hope those tips help

    Karina: I complete AC in July (started in may)  I found my worst tx was my first tx.  I seem to have the most SE too, for me all the other tx were fine, I did have probs on my last but that was cause I missed the steroid tablets and it thru me out of hilt, but it was not bad.

    In regards to hair loss and public, I have found no-one asks me about my hair loss when in public or even asks if I have cancer.  It is almost the unspoken thing.  When I have seen acquaintances from my past, you can see that they wanna say something but don't.  I then tell them, only cause you see them get uncomfortable. 

  • Titch
    Titch Member Posts: 141
    edited August 2009

    Big hugs buccaneer

    My thoughts are with you and your family.........

    This is so hard to be going thry treatments, ......  I do think both your moms are watching over you and making sure you will be ok.......  You have gained another angel to walk alongside you everyday and every moment. 

    Whilst we are not your immediate family, just know we are here for you too, you are not on this road alone gal..... we walk together........

  • jennsdogs
    jennsdogs Member Posts: 56
    edited August 2009
    Bucanneer:
     I am so sorry to hear about your mother-in-law.  I know it must be devastating to you. She was so young for that to happen.  Stress, I am sure, makes all of this worse.  Not sure what to say except to keep your head up and keep walking - nothing lasts forever - sounds like you have a wonderful immediate family and if those are your kids on the picture, they are beautiful too.  Sorry.
  • PauldingMom
    PauldingMom Member Posts: 927
    edited August 2009

    Jenn 3-Thanks for letting me know about the heart racing issue. I've had the same problem and keep a blood pressure monitor nearby. Nothing to abnormal just elevated 124/82. But it goes down. Since I had some minor heart surgery about 2 years ago, I will mention it to my doc. next visit.

    You all are becoming old pros at this Chemo stuff. It's good to see all are doing well with the loss of hair. It really puts a face on cancer. It's like wearing a big shirt that says "I'm doing Chemo."

    Done with my 3rd treament and one more to go. I'm amazed at how happy I feel when I feel normal. It's a lesson I will not soon forget. Normal Feels Great!!

    Ya all hang tough. You are getting it done and doing really really well.  

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