Starting Chemo in July 2009

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  • KarenVW
    KarenVW Member Posts: 92
    edited August 2009

    Hi everyone!  Hope you are well. 

    Is anyone having issues with neuropathy?  My fingers and toes have been numb since my first TC treatment (had #2 last week) and the numbness feels like it's moving up my arms and legs.  I understand this can be temporary, but at what point does it become a real issue?

    Also, when I was at the Wellness Center this week, someone mentioned using Horse Hoof cream and polish to strengthen nails and cuticles.  After we all laughed, we asked where to get it.  They carry it at Sally's Beauty Supply and it only costs ~$3.50.  It really does make your nails and cuticles feel good!

  • mnikityger
    mnikityger Member Posts: 26
    edited August 2009

    PauldingMom am glad you and your mom liked the favorite team scarf.  My onc Dr. and I have the same NFL team and so of course I am going to wear my scarf to my next appointment.  Go STEELERS !!!!  I also believe the angels are watching after all of us. That is why we are still here.  I went to my first support meeting tonight and won a gift certificate to Red Lobster.  I was so surprised as I never win anything .  Wish the best of week for all.  GB

  • Eph3_12
    Eph3_12 Member Posts: 4,781
    edited August 2009

    Oh goodie, some football fanatics! I won't mention my team by name as they have not been worthy of my tattoo for quite a number of years now, but let's just say, I'm surprised as all get out they didn't sign Vick!  I would have had to do laser removal probably.

    Hope all is fairly well with everyone!  TC #3 on the 20th-not looking forward to it but IT IS WHAT IT IS!!

    Joni2

  • PAP
    PAP Member Posts: 142
    edited August 2009

    KARENVW....My naturopath advises to take B6 supplement along with a B complex for neuropathy.  I've heard that from other sources as well.  You might give it a try.  What I don't know is if you need to start it before the neuropathy sets in, but seems like it couldn't hurt.  Patti

  • PAP
    PAP Member Posts: 142
    edited August 2009

    To all you July girls........I started in mid June, then had two tx of TC in July and just had my last one today.  I truly can't believe it is over....and how fast it went when I look back on it.  Mine were every three weeks and I wasn't looking forward to having number 3 when it came time.  This time for the last one I couldn't wait to get it started and be done.  Also, I had two massages following tx 3 and that really helped to get some accumulation of toxins out of the body.  So already today following number 4 I feel better.  So if you have that available for you I really recommend it.....of course I also love acupuncture for SE's as well.  Patti

  • JanetH77
    JanetH77 Member Posts: 32
    edited August 2009

    During my first chemo, a nurse went over a lot of materials with me, suggested I start taking B6 to avoid neuropathy.  I didn't get a good note on the amount to take, though.  Anyone know?

    I started chemo 7/28, had my second tx today, but I joined the August chemo group.  I do come here to read how everyone is doing. 

    BC.org rocks!

  • PauldingMom
    PauldingMom Member Posts: 927
    edited August 2009

    Stef-58 He is listening!

    Eph3-12  I'm guessing Raiders? or Seahawks? It's so hard to be a Bears fan here in Ga.

    Neuropathy really scares me as we have a very strong family history of it. I have heard that the B6 and B viatamins will help. Please talk to your doc. about it and see if there is anything else you can do. You may also want to search this site for information. I would post a link but am unable. Search Neuropathy How Long. It read that they were advised to take 200 mg of B6.

    Yeah PAP! So glad you are done! I know what you mean by number 3 being rough. It's just seems like it will never end. Just had mine on Monday and my Mom is having #2 today. Feeling well but not 100%. I think we all need a little mental boast from time to time. So glad I can come here and find it.

    Ya' all take care.

    Lisa 

  • josybee
    josybee Member Posts: 86
    edited August 2009

    A beautiful story Diane.....

  • Kathy16
    Kathy16 Member Posts: 135
    edited August 2009

    I hope this helps people - I've had 3 T/C (scheduled for last one in Sept.).  After the first one I got the neuropathy.  The Onc. nurse told me up to 300 mg B6 daily would alleviate it (and it did help).  Second and third treatments I haven't been as good about remembering B6 (among other 20 drugs we end up keeping track of) but I haven't been as bothered by the neuropathy.  I hope this might be a sign that it's transient for us.  Take care everyone - your strength helps me when I'm feeling down! 

  • pdaw
    pdaw Member Posts: 202
    edited August 2009

    gillyone - I was taking the prilosec as needed, but my chemo nurse said that she thought I should take it everyday.  Also, I'm not sure who posted the suggestion to get dr. to write a prescription for it, but I did and only had to pay $10 for it.  And, the instructions on the bottle do say take daily.

    LindaSue - hope things went well for you today with 3rd AC.  I had 3rd tx last Thursday - it's taking a little longer to get over this one.

    Diane - how beautiful - we all need signs that things are going to get better!

     Has anyone else been bothered by leg cramps at night?

     Pam

  • Niknak0320
    Niknak0320 Member Posts: 138
    edited August 2009

    Hey ladies!  I had TAC #3/6 on Monday with Neulasta shot yesterday.  I was at the oncologist office for just over 7 hours on Monday because they were so backed up!  It sucked but I'm glad I got my treatment and am half way there! Woohoo!

    I am holding strong too with the body hair (eyebrows, eye lashes, arm)  I hope it continues.  I can deal with being bald and my wig looks great when I wear it out but it'll be great if I can keep the eye brows/lashes :)

    I can't believe how great I still feel.  I was an energizer bunny today...I made a ton of phone calls cutting household costs (lower cable service, arrangements for big cancer bills, etc).  I also started back to work this week with my daycare kids.  I have 2 returning boys (separate families) who just turned 4 and the other just turned 3.  My own nearly 5yo DS is loving life having his playmates back!  I can't believe it but my 9yo DD is looking forward to starting back to school next week.  We're in flag football and soccer starts this week too!  I have no time to be cancers bitch! LOL

    I wish the rest of you were feeling as great.  It's nice to see that most of you have found remedies for your side effects!  Keep strong ladies!

  • hopingforacure845
    hopingforacure845 Member Posts: 17
    edited August 2009

    Hi ladies,

    Hope you are all doing well and smiling as much as possible. I am thinking of you each and every day.

    My mom had her genetic testing and tomorrow she has an appointment to speak with the counselor- we are not sure if she will get her results then or not, but based on the risk factors she discussed with the genetic counselor, she has a feeling she will be BRCA + which really scares her. She cried A LOT more than usual today and is incredibly anxious to hear the results. We're obviously hoping for a negative result but she is sort of prepared for a positive one.

     If she is positive, she will have a propylactic double mastectomy and have her ovaries removed. She asked me to look into reconstruction options and find out as much as I can about the recovery from the surgery/what to expect, etc... I am looking on other threads for this but I was wondering if any of you who may have had a double mastectomy w/ reconstruction would mind sharing what it was like so I can pass the info on to my mom (only if it's not too much trouble, of course-- you can send me a private message!)

    Loved the picture, Pauldingmom and Sallymae!!


    Eph- love the laser tattoo removal comment- completely agree ! :)

  • o2bhealthy
    o2bhealthy Member Posts: 2,101
    edited August 2009

    My Naturopath is having me take L-Glutamine (10 grams 3x a day for the first three days after TCH)  to help with neuropathy - it is in a powder form added to juice but ugh...so glad it is only the first three days...so far no issues.  

    TX #2 today...more spacey this time and am dealing with nasty heartburn.  I went for my nightly walk and got BAD leg cramp on right shin/calf/foot - hubby had to run home and get the car to drive me back to the house...TOTALLY SUCKED! 

    Hope everyone had a good restful night...

  • Hopeful-1
    Hopeful-1 Member Posts: 72
    edited August 2009

    Hello Triple J's,

    Congrats to those that just got chemo #3.  I got my last AC on Monday and have felt good or great since Monday.  Only negative was SE from steroids.  Although my doc cut the dose in half and I took two benadryl, I only sleep 7 hrs tops - I really like 8 to 9 hrs and so does my body and mind.

    I'm  also having the Braca test, but regardless of the outcome, I plan to remove my one good right breast and ovaries in November and then will try to go for the diep flap or other reconstruction early 2010.  My thought is my life is worth more than my breasts. I would also like my new breasts to look symmetrical if possible.

    Dianne - your post was really moving!

    I start Taxol on Aug 31, but if neuropathy becomes an issue my doc my switch me to Taxotere.  I was also give L Glutamine powder in advance to help prevent bone pain and neuropathy which is expected during Taxol.  I'll take vitamin B6 too. I really need my brain and fingers to continue working.  Working keeps my mind off my worries, illness, and is a great form of therapy to me.

     My mom who is a 12 yr. BC survivor said her nails turned black during Taxol, but didn't hurt or fall off.  Her nails became was normal after Taxol was over.

    Dawn who finished AC and then Taxol on July 20th said she lost her eyelashes and eyebrows at about the 2nd Taxol, but hair on head started growing.  She was from the May forum and is doing great now that she is more than 3 wks past her last dose of chemo.

    I hope everyone feels as good as they can and I hope everyone has minimal SEs.

    Hugs and prayers to all of you strong, beautiful, positive, supportive, women!

    Connie

  • PauldingMom
    PauldingMom Member Posts: 927
    edited August 2009

    I completed #3 of T/C on Monday and this AM found a section of eyelashes missing on the bottom. Oh well, just eyeliner for a while I guess. The 1/4 inch of fuzz on my head is still holding. My SE are pretty normal, bone pain and nausea but all managable. I'm just looking forward to this being over and done with. Trying to be thankful today. It's tking and effort. Time to find a happy place and jump in. 

    I know that by this weekend I'll come around, just gotta hang tough a couple more days.

    Prayers, Smiles, and Hugs to all,

    Lisa 

  • Niknak0320
    Niknak0320 Member Posts: 138
    edited August 2009

    (((HUGS))) Lisa, you've had the best attitude all along, don't let it get away from you!  Keep going girl!  We CAN do it!

  • KarenVW
    KarenVW Member Posts: 92
    edited August 2009

    Thanks everyone for the info and tips on neuropathy.  I did call my onco yesterday and he prescribed Neurotin (Gabapentin) to treat the symptoms.  My hope was to get something to make it stop or prevent it from happening, but that would involve reducing my dosage or switching off Taxotere.  My neuropathy is not that bad to warrant that yet.  Thankfully the numbness started subsiding on its own yesterday (and much better today) so I did not start taking the Neurotin.  I kind of freaked when I found out it was an anti-seizure medication with a myriad of potential side effects of its own.  I am staying hopeful that the numbness simply comes and goes, and does not get any worse.  Only need to make it through 2 more treatments!

    Best wishes to everyone for a good day with minimal SEs.  

  • LindaSueH
    LindaSueH Member Posts: 70
    edited August 2009

    Well....had my 3rd AC yesterday and they added the Emend which really seemed to help.  Had headache and some nausea last night, but the Zophran seemed to help get that under control.  BTW...I did try smoking some pot last night but do not think that it helped (for what it's worth!).  Don't think I'll be doing that again!  (my oncologist gave me the ok to do it)

    Yesterday, my husband got the news that his group is going to be outsourced to Guatamala.  So I spent all am yesterday crying, and went to my AC with a cry headache already!  I didn't even cry when I got my cancer diagnosis, so I don;t know where that came from.  But if you could pray for the job situation, I know it will help!

    Sending prayers for no SE...and I remember each of you in my prayers each evening!

    Linda

  • gillyone
    gillyone Member Posts: 1,727
    edited August 2009

    Linda - I had AC tx3 yesterday too. I have had emend all three times and have not had any nausea. Hope it works for you.

    Thanks ladies for the prilosec info.

    A question that might require TMI I'm afraid. Last time, though never actually feeling constipated, I did notice I had gone about 5 days without a BM. Deciding I needed to make things happen, I took 2 senokot one night and boy did it work. The next day I think I had 6 BMs! My poor little bottom was sore (like a baby!) I know TMI.  I am thinking of taking 1 senokot at night for a few days, just to get things moving along as it were, without such drastic results. Has anybody else tried something like this?

    Thanks ladies - have a great day.

  • o2bhealthy
    o2bhealthy Member Posts: 2,101
    edited August 2009

    Gilly - tx #1 I had 4 days constipation with using colace every evening then finally added activia, cherry's, papaya's...my onc said next time try Mirlax if no BM within a few days.  I have those funny plastic refillable ketchup bottles filled with water on the back of my toilet to rinse with, baby wipes with aloe and destine ointment for the poor bottom.  I have only had to use those goodies a few times. 

    TMI... Today is the day after #2 and was getting ready for work when thought...hummm I feel gassy...started heading for the bathroom and ended up shatting in my pants...think I might have to call in today...I have a 1/2 hour commute and that would be horrible to happen at work or in route.

    Oh well...it is what it is!  

    I hope everyone has a SE and productive (or relaxing) day!

  • SallyMae
    SallyMae Member Posts: 13
    edited August 2009

    Dianne, ditto from me.  It pays to turn it all over to your higher power.  I couldn't make it through the day without Him.  I am a real animal lover and every so often (we also live in the country) when I am feeling low, He puts a beautiful animal in my path just to let me know he cares.

    I had my second chemo yesterday and still feel pretty good except for the headachs.  Dr. gave me something for them so I should feel better.  Two down and Two to go.  I to will make it!!  We are all survivors and you girls help me more than you know.  Hugs to all.

  • pdaw
    pdaw Member Posts: 202
    edited August 2009

    Connie - I'm disappointed to hear of loosing eyelashes and brows during Taxol.  I was told that "head hair" would start to grow back, so naturally assumed that I would not loose any more hair anywhere.  I will probably start Taxol in October - every week for 12 weeks.  I have my last AC on Sept. 3 and will have a 3-week break before starting Taxol.  I was told Taxol is a piece of cake after AC.  I take B6 everyday normally so hopefully that will help.  I'm happy that you felt great after #4.  Number 3 has been harder on me.

    LindaSue - you and your family are in my prayers.  Dr. added the Emmend in IV form to my 2nd treatment and it really helped.  She gave me that + an Emmend pill for the next 2 nights after treatment #3.

    Gillyone - I try to remember take a Sennacot each night or in the morning for about a week after treatment - helps a lot.  Was also told today that I could add some Mirilax if I needed it.  Nurse said that it has no taste so you can mix it with anything.

     Take care everyone!

    Pam

  • sheila888
    sheila888 Member Posts: 25,634
    edited August 2009

    Pam, I never lost my eye lashes or brows with Taxol but i only had 4 rounds every 2 weeks.

    I hope the same thing happens to you but even it didn't everything starts growing in full force all over again.

    Good Luck with your treatments.

    Smile Sheila Smile

  • pdaw
    pdaw Member Posts: 202
    edited August 2009

    Sheila, thanks - hopefully the same will happen for me.  I kept the bangs long on my "new hair" just in case I lost the brows.  But, I've always had long eye lashes - so really hate to loose them. 

  • Eph3_12
    Eph3_12 Member Posts: 4,781
    edited August 2009

    Hi Js-Had T/C #3 today; told the doctor about how poorly I felt, etc. after taking the additional steroids the day after T/C #2-based on what I told him-about accidently not getting the Rx the 1st treatment & doing OK and then taking it after #2 and feeling like crap, he told me NOT to take it tomorrow.  Just get the Neulasta shot, but don't take the steroid pills; so we shall see.  

    Tx #3 went ok; I had my ice chips but I didn't seem to chow them down as much as the previous times-hope I don't regret that!

    I noticed a swath of eyebrow hair missing today.  I have always had big, thick brows & I've noticed some coming out here and there, but this is a fairly large patch.  And as I'm typing this, I feel tingly in my right brow which is the one that lost all the hair, so guess it's getting ready to go some more.

    Hope everyone has a good Friday & weekend.  You are in my thoughts and prayers, all of you.

    Joni2

    PS: If you haven't signed up for the chemo angels, I highly recommend it.  The 2 gals I have are awesome!  

  • Hopeful-1
    Hopeful-1 Member Posts: 72
    edited August 2009

    Hello Triple J's,

    Hope everyone has a good or wonderful day with minimal SEs.

    LindaSue - I'm so sorry your family has to deal with a job loss on top of all that you're already dealing with.  I know it's hard, but try to be positive and hopeful because studies show that it helps with our illness.  I hope and pray better news comes your way and I think companies shouldl stop shipping jobs overseas.

    For those that may be like me ER+ and PR+, I saw some interesting news from DIA Daily that states, "Research indicates letrozole may prolong disease-free survival in breast cancer patients better than tamoxifen."

    I plan to ask my doctor since I will take tamoxifen, arimidex or some medication daily for the next 5 years.

    Just wanted to share this information....I try to keep on top of any and all new news regarding BC.

    It'd day 5 after my last dose of AC on Monday and I still feel really good and trying to drink tons of fluids to flush those toxins from my system.

    Hugs to all!

    Connie

  • PauldingMom
    PauldingMom Member Posts: 927
    edited August 2009

    Thanks for the encouragement niknak. I am doing better today. I knew I would, just had to get over that hump. 

    Today I HAVE to eat something healthy. I only want cereal for some reason. Today I've got a big crock of garden veggies cooking. My poor DH has had nothing but frozen pizza for three day.

    Ya all have a great weekend, and stay strong.

    Pink hugs., Lisa 

  • sheila888
    sheila888 Member Posts: 25,634
    edited August 2009

    Connie.. I am on Femara  (LETRAZOLE ) since March 2006. What my understanding is that its been prescribed for Post Menopausal women, I just double-checked the Femara site thats what it says. From your picture you look like a young woman. One more thing I didn't experienced any side effects except some hot flushes at the beginning. I will be on for 5 years also unless my Dr says otherwise.

    Good Luck to you.

    Smile Sheila Smile

  • DeniseM808
    DeniseM808 Member Posts: 32
    edited August 2009
    Michelle - Can totally relate to your TMI story. It's why I ended up trying to work from home since 2nd DD AC+Avastin/placebo. SE's really coming on strong this time. It's been 8 days since tx and still feeling it. Hate that 3rd tx is coming around next Wednesday and I won't have had any good days in between.
  • gillyone
    gillyone Member Posts: 1,727
    edited August 2009

    I just lost a long post. GRRRRRR!

    Michelle, thanks for constipation info.

    I now have a wig question. Isn't it great we can answers to so many questions here? Is it ok to use regular hairspray on wigs, or do I have to get special stuff?

    I am day3 out from tx3 of DD AC and doing fine except for not sleeping long enough at night. I expect that to improve when I'm done with the steroids tomorrow.

    I am helping youngest son move back into the dorm today. Both our boys are attending our home town university which makes this pretty easy. Our older son is in an apartment so nothing I need to do there. I'm going to ask younger son if he wants me to wear a wig while helping. I don't want him to be embarrassed. But all my menfolk are fine with me going commando aoruund the house. It is too hot!!

    Hope everyone is having a good day.

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