Chemo or No Chemon (recurrence

Reni
Reni Member Posts: 81

Hi I posted in another place but figured this might be better

I was Stage 2B in 2001 and had a lumpectomy (clear margins) chemo (ACT) and radiation (12wks) it was rough but I made it ... I vowed never to do chemo again!

Fast forward to May 2008 diagnosed again. Opted for a dbl mx (even though right breast was clear) with DIEP reconstruction. Had surgery Jun 1 and got my path report 2 wks ago telling me the right breast had DCIS!! Phew thank goodness I got rid of it.

I met with my oncologist today and he is recommending chemo Frown I really dont want to do it ... the recurrence was triple negative (my first wasnt?? yet they say its the same cancer) and all lymph nodes were negative and the 2 tumours were small .8 & .5.

I know its a toughie but anyone in my similar situation and what did you do?

He says do the chemo (and give myself a better chance of seeing my 3yr old go to college) or just hope for the best with scans and physical exams. My first chemo was really really difficult I was sick througout the 6mths and ended up in hospital 3x. My port never worked so finding a vein took at least an hour each time! He says the meds now are very different & things have advanced 7yrs... he says nauseau is limited and so are energy levels. He is recommending Gemzar and Carbo 6 cycles 1 every 3 weeks. Anyone familiar with that?

Thanks for reading...

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  • Nanalinda
    Nanalinda Member Posts: 826
    edited July 2009

    When I finished my 1st chemo in 2006 (TAC), I swore I would never do chemo again.  My tumor was larger than yours, but I had clear margins with my lumpectomy and my sentinel node was negative.  1 and 1/2 years after my last chemo, my mets was discovered (7/08).  I did start back on chemo, and it has not been too bad.  I just finished 10 months of Taxol/Avastin and the worst thing about it was the fatigue and that only lasted a few days.  I had no nausea at all.  I just started on Gemzar (only one dose), and it wasn't bad at all.  I was very fatigued for one day but I think it is because I over did it the day before from the steroids.  My Gemzar is being given weekly and I have heard that it is better tolerated that way.  I had a hard time too with my first chemo, but the ones I have had lately have not been too bad.  I feel I have a good QOL, just some inconvenience having to go to the cancer center every week.  It is hard to tell with TNBC, they say chemo is all we have.  Even though I have good QOL, so far chemo has not done a lot for me, but my own personal choice is to do everything I possibly can to fight this battle.  Good luck to you in whatever you choose.

  • Rainenz
    Rainenz Member Posts: 93
    edited July 2009

    Reni

    I was dx again 9 1/2 yrs after my 1st dx. Had a real hard time with chemo then and like you wasn't keen to have it again.  When I had my 2nd dx which was again triple neg with multiple pos nodes and I was recommended chemo again, was very anxious about it.  However with the better anti nausea meds I sailed through my chemo with no problems was not sick even once.  I still hope I will never need to go through anymore chemo but now know I will cope if I need too.

    Can't help with the chemo they are offering I had AC 1st time and FEC and Taxol 2nd time.

     Good Luck with you decisions.

    Raine

  • tibet
    tibet Member Posts: 545
    edited July 2009

    hi Raine

    Was your second time an IDC not atpyical medullary? What kind of chemo did you get?

  • tibet
    tibet Member Posts: 545
    edited July 2009

    Reni

    Was your first dx at 2001 also a TN IDC? Was your second time a recurrence? Usually have 5 yrs, it is unlikely to recurr for TN. Or maybe it was a new primary which would give you a better prognosis.

  • Reni
    Reni Member Posts: 81
    edited July 2009

    Hi newalex

    First time was not TN. Second time was new primary... Hope your right.

    Havent seen second oncologist yet. Appt next wk

  • tibet
    tibet Member Posts: 545
    edited July 2009

    Reni

    DId you first time take tomoxifen?

  • cwrightrn
    cwrightrn Member Posts: 242
    edited July 2009

    I am in a similar boat but with a different cancer.  I have IBC, my large primary tumor was totally gone with neoadjuvant chemo but I still had residual cancer in the skin and lymph channels.  My oncologist printed an article from ASCO from May of this year that says that there is no benefit for chemo for those of us with residual cancer.  Because I am 39 (and it sounds like you are young too) my Dr is willing to do something.  My Dr is recommending Xeloda (pill form) with radiation and for 4 months afterward BUT I have seen many on this site treated with gemzar/carboplat or avastin/taxotere and I am taking those drugs to her at my appt next week and asking why those aren't an option for me.  I am of the opinion that I want to be hit NOW, not when it recurs in the next year or two......Good luck to you

  • tyra
    tyra Member Posts: 81
    edited July 2009

    hi ..i justed wanted to say i also had cancer 2x i did chemo both time ...its a hard decison but i feel what ever it take for me to be here i will do .. and  i was tn both time i had 2 different primary

    thanks 

  • Titan
    Titan Member Posts: 2,956
    edited July 2009

    Do as much as you can to fight your cancer....I'm just finishing up with Dose Dense AC and Dose Dense Taxol and I have not been sick at all..no nausea, nothing.  Things have changed so much in the past few years and they will even change for the better in the next few!  Go for it!

  • Reni
    Reni Member Posts: 81
    edited July 2009

    Newalex - no tamoxifen first time...

    Titan, crwrightrn - Thanks I will be doing the chemo and meet with my oncologist on Monday to determine my start date...

  • tibet
    tibet Member Posts: 545
    edited July 2009

    Reni

    Then it is possible that your first time was also TN because they did not give you tamoxifen. 10 yrs ago, they already used tamoxifen for ER+.  You wrote that your first time was not TN, thus I assumed it might have been ER+, then they would have given you Taxmoxifen. Did they test your first time ER receptors then and what was your treatment the first time? thanks for your reply.

  • Reni
    Reni Member Posts: 81
    edited August 2009

    Newalex - They are now saying that if my report was read today I would have been dx TN so yep ur right... TN first time and now...

    Started chemo yesterday (Carboplatin & Taxotere)

  • MsBliss
    MsBliss Member Posts: 536
    edited August 2009

    Rainenz, You have an interesting biology--that you had medullary and a recurrence so much later.  VERY unusual.  Did they tell you that you were medullary featured or true medullary?  It is rare for true meds to recur at all--and rare for triple negative to recur after so many years of being disease free.

  • tibet
    tibet Member Posts: 545
    edited August 2009

    MsBliss

    I believe, Renainz 's second is a new primary, not a recurrence. 

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