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  • tdoehne
    tdoehne Member Posts: 30
    edited August 2009

    Goodmorning Ladies,

    Well, I actually got some sleep last night, AMAZING !!! The nerves did not hit me until this morning. I did so much housework to prepare for this week, my arm is a bit swollen this morning and sore, should have paid better attention. I still forget sometimes that the littlest things can do that.

    Buccaneers- Happy Birthday to you !!! I too will be celebrating my 40th. I bet you never thought this is how you would be spending your 40th birthday. Well, me either. But we can do it together :)

     I was under MAC anesthesia for my port installation and only remember being taken back there and coming out, but I was home within a few hours as well, it all went very good. Good Luck !!

    Well, here goes ladies, I am off for my first day. Bag is all packed and I am ready, I think ?! Hope to talk with you later. Tara

  • jenn3
    jenn3 Member Posts: 3,316
    edited August 2009

    Good morning - I'm still feeling a bit under the weather - it turns out I've got a nasty sinus infection.  I started running fever yesterday (100), dr called in some antibiotics so I'm hoping to feel better soon.  Of course the antibiotics tear up my stomach so I'm working with that, but I know it will get better.  I wanted to pass on that I sucked on ice chips when they were pushing the Adriamycin a/k/a red devil.  I mentioned to the nurse I had read it helped, she said she's heard from patients it helps and that they think it has something to do with the constriction of veins/blood vessels in the mouth.  Which is the same thing Gill said using ice water.  I haven't had any mouth sores - maybe I'm lucky this round or it worked.  I also switched to Biotene toothpaste starting day 1 of chemo. 

    Tara - I'm thinking of you - and look forward to hearing from you.

    Seyla - thanks for popping over - I do ease drop on the Triple J's from time to time.  I'm curious about what's next.

    Donna - I too will wish you a early Happy Birthday in case I forget. Glad to hear you're feeling better - is coffee finally agreeing with you?

    Kim - sorry to hear you'll have to have another surgery later - what a bummer.  I've been off since the end of June, am getting stir crazy and hope to get back in the next two weeks.  However, I am taking it day by day since this round didn't go as well as I expected.

    Manue - glad to hear your sister is with you - dinner sounded wonderful.  Leftovers?

    Mickey- how are you today?  The foggy feeling is weird isn't it???

    Hope everyone has a wonderful day with little or no SE's.

  • kristin09
    kristin09 Member Posts: 56
    edited August 2009

    Happy Birthday, Donna.  I am so glad to hear that you are feeling well and hope that your day tomorrow is awesome!

    Tara & Reni - best of luck today, we're all thinking of you!

    Karen - how are you doing?  We started on the same day and I am anxious to hear how you're feeling.

    I am at work today after my first treatment on Friday.  As I said in an earlier post, I am feeling very well.  No nausea, good appetite.  Primary SEs are dry mouth (only slightly sore) and a bit of sinus pressure that responds well to Aleve.  We went to the beach yesterday and had a great time;on the way home we stopped for pizza at my favorite place and I couldn't taste it!  Aarrgghh.  It looks like my taste buds are going.  Not good for the head of a Sensory Department, eh?  Oh well, at least I was able to save myself from the calories of the brownie sundae that I ordered - tasted like nothing!

    Today is probably my worst day only because (WARNING - TMI coming) my bowels completely emptied out this morning.  It happened shortly after I arrived at work and I am now very light-headed.  I'm in a bit of a fog and waiting for it to wear off.  Otherwise, feel very good.  Tried sleeping without Simply Sleep last night and that didn't go too well . . . will definitely take it tonight.

    MCKitty - how are you feeling?  Are you ready to start?  We're thinking of you.

    Laughing

    K

  • MaineCoonKitty
    MaineCoonKitty Member Posts: 125
    edited August 2009

    Rock on, Kristin!

    I start on Weds and was starting to get a bit nervous until I read your posts.  I'm so thrilled for you that it hasn't been bad so far and I hope I'm just as lucky.  I love it that we're all sharing day by day posts because it helps all of us to share and compare.

    I'm hoping that after taking Weds off, I'll be back at work on Thursday and Friday and the SE's will be minimal and handled by the meds. 

     I like the August Amazons name too.  The real Amazon warriors actually removed a breast so it wouldn't interfere with their archery skills in warfare.  I feel like I removed mine so it wouldn't interfere with me living the rest of my life!   We're at war with this enemy and we need all our skills to fight it.

     Love y'all lots!

    MCK

  • PauldingMom
    PauldingMom Member Posts: 927
    edited August 2009

    Kim_ I had the same rash. Told the same by nurse. Now after treatment 2, my skin kinda blisters and peels in places, Mostly on my hands. I was told it was just my bodies way to get rid of the Taxatore.

    GillyOne- do you want my recipe for "Magic Mouthwash"  Some of you may not be aware of this but some insurance will not cover this. My sores were pretty nasty and caused me much pain. I talked to my onc. nurse and she called my pharmacist. They came up with all the active ingredients in the stuff, all covered by insurance and we mixed it with some OFT stuff and viola!!! Works like a champ. I can give you the ingredient list and you can get with your doc. if you want to. Biotene helps but in my case just didn't cut it after my first round. 

    As for the port, I was out, but only lightly and I felt like poop that night. Don't know if it was the pain med or the anesthesia. They said they will remove it with a local right in the doc. office. Kinda worried about that but after all this is over I'm sure I' be glad to get it out.

    Happy Birthday Donna!


    When I first started researching B.C. I thought it was an older ladies disease. But I have learned now that it generally strikes between the ages of 40 and 50. Just some info. I thought I would pass on.  

  • MaineCoonKitty
    MaineCoonKitty Member Posts: 125
    edited August 2009

    PauldingMom, I LOVE your head!  My hubby bought me a big, temporary Harley tattoo for mine.  When the hair begins to go in a couple of weeks, he's going to shave my head and when I'm nice and smooth, he's slapping that sucker on me.  I'll post a pic when it's there.

    Even when I wear a wig or a hat, that tat will make me laugh!

  • gillyone
    gillyone Member Posts: 1,727
    edited August 2009

    Yes, thanks Lisa. I am doing ok on salt rinses and Biotine so far, but it helps to be prepared.

  • oldstudent
    oldstudent Member Posts: 61
    edited August 2009

    Hi all. I started in late July, so would like to be an honorary member of the August group. I like the name Amazing Amazons--so apt! Not because of the fighting, but for what they were willing to go through to be warriors--and I see myself as a warrior against the evil villain CANCER.

    Just had tx 2 or A/C this a.m. and feeling BURPY and a bit of acid reflux. Wish it were'nt so gosh darned hot and polluted outside, 'cause last time I took a nice, slow walk in the afternoon and I think it helped. Might hit the treadmill. Have about a million questions to ask the onco later this week when I see him.

    Hi, Gillyone. Sorry about the mouth sores. Sucking ice obsessively during chemo seems to help, at least it did the first time. Also have been doing all the brushing, biotene, rinsing stuff. I lost some weight since first chemo, which surprised me because I've been eating everything in sight except for one day.

    Micky, I've noticed a few rashy blistery things, too. Very small and responded to Benedryl cream. I thought one might be a mosquito bite. Wouldn't it be nice if chemo repelled gnats and mosquitos? Hope yours go away quickly. Thanks to Kim for the info about hydrocortisone. Kim, I have a MX on the agenda for a later date as well. Started chemo first to give me time to research the options and so wouldn't have to delay chemo any longer.

    Feel good, all. I'm glad we're not in this alone but have each other.

    Deb

  • oldstudent
    oldstudent Member Posts: 61
    edited August 2009

    On the mediport. It has been more uncomfortable than the lumpectomy! But I'm glad to have it because I understand it helps dilute the A/C as it goes into your body and this helps with SE and hopefully helps prevent damage to heart and veins. A friend told me to ask for Emelin (sp?) cream to put on the port 1/2 hour before each treatment. It is a numbing cream and you don't have to have that big "ouch" each time. Good since I'll be at this for over a year with the Herceptin.

    Found out that it just takes time for your body to get used to the mediport. I had it placed July 1, and it is feeling better, not perfect. A suture poked its way out and that was driving me absolutely nuts. Today at chemo the nurse asked if I wanted to clip it off. Woo hoo! Feels much better--doesn't catch on clothing. Still not sleeping on my left side because of the port, but oh well.

  • karina_il
    karina_il Member Posts: 29
    edited August 2009

    Hello ladies!

    I will start my chemo next week, but I don't now wich one AC+TH orTCH, my doctor gave me the option to choose, and I'm very confused.Sombody get AC? Is it to hard to handle? I have 2 kids and  I go to college. will  I be able to go to college during AC?

    Thank you 

    Karina

  • kristin09
    kristin09 Member Posts: 56
    edited August 2009

    Hi Karina,

    I am also ER+/PR+ and Her2+ and was given the same choice.  I chose TCH and am not looking back.  I did quite a bit of research and reached out to a few specialists who said that my case didn't warrant the toxicity of the ACTH (my tumor was less than 1.5 cm and I am node negative). I must say, however, that I am surprised that doctors leave such a decision in the hands of their patients. It's not like choosing what color car to buy!  I went to a local university for a second opinion and they gave me much more detail on the differences.  The onc that I saw tends to favor ACTH but only because it is traditional and is what she has had the most experience with (she admitted as much).  She was comfortable that the research showed that they are both effective and spent time going over the research with me.I started TCH last Friday and have been doing well.  I did leave work early today because I was very light-headed and not thinking clearly.  But I got home and went for a walk and am feeling better.  I'm planning on working a full schedule.  As far as college . . . you can do anything that you put your mind too and you will be serving as a role-model for many other students/women! You might just have to limit the all-nighters!BTW, how do I control the font on these posts?  I tried using a moticon and it put everything after it in italics! 

    K  

  • jenn3
    jenn3 Member Posts: 3,316
    edited August 2009

    It looks like August Amazons seems to be a favorite - so that will be our name - August Amazons!!! Thank you Triple J's for helping us put together a name.

    Welcome Karina & Deb to the August Amazons. 

    I am finally starting to feel better.  The antibiotics must be working.  My headache is finally backing off, my sinus' don't hurt as bad and my stomach is somewhat settled.  I almost feel normal - whatever that is now a days. Hair question:  My hair hasn't started to fall out yet, but I've noticed the top of my head is slightly sensitive.  When I brushed it this morning it almost felt like I had gotten a mild sunburn on my scalp.  I'm on day 7 from tx.  Is that how it starts?

    Karina - Trying to make a decision on chemo has to be hard - I would say research and read around this site for information.  One thing that I've learned and read is that everyone reacts differently to chemo, some do their tx's, go to work and don't have trouble, other's have mild se's and other's have a little more trouble.  I'm doing AC/T and although I've gotten off to a rocky start I am planning on going back to work soon. 

    Kristen - How did the rest of the day go? Stomach settle down? Sensory dept - that's going to be hard w/o taste buds......

    Rene - wasn't today your 1st tx day?  If so, how did it go?

  • karina_il
    karina_il Member Posts: 29
    edited August 2009

    Kristin and JENN3 Thank you.

    My diagnosis Grade 3 and I have one node positive in addition Margin involvement -Focal.So because of this maybe AC it's more efactive for me, Howewer I will prefer TCH because like I understand it's have less SE, but my delema is What is the effective tritment in my case..

  • Reni
    Reni Member Posts: 81
    edited August 2009

    Day 1 of Carboplatin & Taxotere..

    Arrived at 8:00am left at 3pm. Feel normal right now except Im exhausted since I awoke at 4am and couldnt get back to sleep.

    Since I dont have the port (and really dont want to get one) had it in 2001 with 1st dx and it never worked. I was wary of them getting a vein... Stick #1 no luck, stick #2 vein but with not enough to draw blood (used that for IV), stick #3another site for blood.

    Had to wait for the blood results then had to have 2hours of IV saline (lot of hydration needed for Carboplatin) which meant bathroom trips every 15-20mins Frown

    Results back... and chemo starts after saline.... Meet with pharmacist, librarian etc and it was time to go!

    On Dexamethasone and Emend/Aprepitant for the day before, day of and day after chemo.

    Then Ativan (if needed) and Zofran.

    So ladies thats my day 1 synopsis... we'll see what tomorrow brings ....

    Healthy hugs to all

  • NavyMom
    NavyMom Member Posts: 1,099
    edited August 2009

    Hello to Karina and Deb.  Reni-Glad they were able to finally find a vein and get things started for you.  Kristen--I have no idea regarding the font.  I am a slow learner on this computer.  Geez, I just learned how to copy and paste 6 months ago!  Jenn--glad to hear you are feeling better.  And August Amazons sounds just fine.

    Well, I went and picked out a wig today.  Stayed with my current color.(Blonde)  I then had my hair cut.    About 10 inches cut off and into a short shag.  It looks fine and my husband liked it too.  I thought it would be a difficult day considering I am 49 years old and haven't had a short hairdo since the third grade.  But it wasn't.  Just another thing that needed to be done.  Only other thing to do this week is a fill with the Plastic surgeon on Thursday.  

    Hoping that everyone is having a restfull night. 

    Navy 

  • manue
    manue Member Posts: 34
    edited August 2009

    Happy B-Day Buccaneers and happy B-Day to you too Tdoehne!

  • mnikityger
    mnikityger Member Posts: 26
    edited August 2009
    Hi all of the August group.  Hope all are doing as well as you can. Keep those spirits up .   MaineCoonKitty Love the Harley tattoo.  I had my first treatment of AC on July 27 and  am just starting to lose my hair, (which is day 15).   I had the head tingles for several days before  hair really started to fall out.  I have a hard time remembering who ask what so please don't be offended if I don't use your name.  I have a port it was put in under a local by a radiologist.  No pain, a bit off pressure,    and after just a couple of days was able to sleep on that side.   Everyone has to go with what they feel they need.   Good Luck all !  Will drop in from the July group  once in awhile as I started my treatments so late in July.    Laughter is the best medicine!!!                              
  • BooBee
    BooBee Member Posts: 860
    edited August 2009

    Hi Ladies.  Wow, what a big group.  Sorry you all have to be here. 

    I have a video to share with you.  My friends son needed a project for his media class in college so he taped my head shaving party. 

    Best wishes to all of you.  Drink lots of water and remember that the anticipation is worse than the actual treatment.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zznlRBX4wEg

    Renee

  • JanetH77
    JanetH77 Member Posts: 32
    edited August 2009

    Reni, I've had one treatment of taxotere and carboplatin, done 7/28.  I felt normal for a couple of days, then had mouth soreness and some tummy distress.  Fatigue and sweats hit on days 7-10.  Have felt normal since.  What were you told about hair loss with this TC regimen?  My oncologist said I have about a 50% chance of not losing my hair, or of just having it thin out.

  • JanetH77
    JanetH77 Member Posts: 32
    edited August 2009

    Well, addendum to my post above.  My hair is coming out fast this morning.

  • Karen09
    Karen09 Member Posts: 320
    edited August 2009

    Hey Kristin - I'm doing really well today.  I don't have that much energy but I'm feeling fine beside that.  No nausea anymore and I'm eating and drinking well again.  Good luck with work.  I can't imagine going back right now.  I'm a secretary in a hospital so I want to avoid that place right now except for appointments anyway. 

    Jenn, I hope you are feeling better.  You haven't had much luck this round.  I hope the sinus infection eases!

  • Scoobydoo
    Scoobydoo Member Posts: 499
    edited August 2009

    Hi ladies.  I would like to join your group even though I will start 9/3 with AC/T treatment.  My name is Anita, I am 42 years old, happily married and have a lovely 15 year old daughter.  I was completely shocked to find out I had breast cancer.  I had my lumpectomy last month (4cm) and the biopsy of my nodes came back negative for cancer.  However due to the aggressive nature of my cancer cells and the size of my tumor, my onc wants me to have a more aggressive chemotherapy. 

    I will need a port put in (bummer) and I have to go for my heart test prior to starting chemo.

    I look forward to getting to know all of you and hopefully be a source of encouragement to you all.

    Anita

  • jenn3
    jenn3 Member Posts: 3,316
    edited August 2009

    Rene - I watched the video and I teared up.  Not because I'm afraid of what I'm facing in the next week or so, but because you are so beautiful and courageous.   Way to go!!!!  Kiss

  • NavyMom
    NavyMom Member Posts: 1,099
    edited August 2009

    ReneeS----I just watched your video.  It is beautiful and so are you!  Thank you for having the bravery to post it.  I, too, am(was) a long hair blondie.  Yesterday I got a short hair cut just like the one you got on the video.  I will start chemo on the 18th.  You have given me strength and I thank you.

    JanetH77 Hugs to you....What can I say, but hang in there and we are here for you.

    Welcome to Scooby.  My chemo concoction will be the same as yours.  Don't worry too much about the port...I had mine this past Friday and I feel fine.

    I am feeling "blue" not sure why.  Just am.

    Love to all

    Navy

  • YoYo44
    YoYo44 Member Posts: 203
    edited August 2009

    Renee, thanks for posting your video.  I have not been able to move on the the hair cutting stage yet (although I got a short cut) but watched your video finally and I cired as well but thought it was great.  Thanks for sharing that.  You look wonderful, with and without hair and clearly it's your spirit that we see.  I am very much trying to tackle the here and now after I have made decisions and that is keeping me on a good track.  But I am now noticing the odd hair coming out so I am starting to think about the next step.

    Scoobydoo, sorry to welcome you to our club, but it is a great, strong group and we will do this together.  We are the Amazing August Amazons after all!

    I am not a fighting or aggressive person either but I'll be darned if some lump is going to get the best of me!  Funny, I thought I was totally healthy before all this too.  Virtually never took sick days and had no aches and pains.  Goes to show you I guess.  But it really is true, I have found, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger.  I have never seen a more positive, proactive, strong group as all these bc survivors.

    So, Donna, I did make it on line after all (had a meeting at the office cancelled so saved the commute time and can work at home all day) so Happy Day!

    Karen, glad to hear your doing well!  How wonderful.

    Jenn, glad you are doing better too.  There need to be some good days!

    July ladies, it's always great to have visitors from our more exerienced sisters.  Bethie, it was great having you chime in too.  Talk about the power of many!

    NavyMom, glad you are working down the list.  I plodded on with most things and got them done but sometimes I hit the wall.  Then later I was irritiated that I hadn't done those things already.  (like re-book my double booked dental cleaning.  Argh!!  Now I cannot go until who knows when.  Grrrr. My bad. )

    Karina, good luck with your decisions.  One thing I have come to grips with is after I decide I have to let it go and quit second guessing.  Will just drive myself nuts. (or more nuts??Laughing)

    Kristin, I know exactly what you mean about the choices and options.  I was a little surprised but also glad in some ways to be able to participate in my treatment decisions.  My doctor reassured me the choices he offered were all equivalent outcomes but the considerations were order and SE's.  I did a lot of researching too to be able to ask intelligent questions and understand but finally I did have to say to myself that I trust his expertise and judgement (after grilling him for about half an hour mind you!  Wink  My husband said he was glad we weren't being charged by the question.)

    Have a good day everyone!

  • YoYo44
    YoYo44 Member Posts: 203
    edited August 2009

    Navymom, sorry just had to comment.  you are feeling blue!!  What?  Why?  You just cut off your lovely hair (I am a blonde too-hmm, cancer and blonds...) and you are getting ready to be poisoned, voluntarilly?  Clearly you are nuts, that's the problem!Wink 

     Sorry, back from my manic edge.

    I think the best part about this site is that people really understand the highs and lows you can go to with this thing.  Everyone understands how it feels.  What I tell people is that I think I will be fine in a year or so but this is life altering.  I try not to get too ahead of myself and think about all the what ifs and new considerations and the SE's, etc. etc.  But even remembering not to think about those things is depressing.  I find I feel blue when I am tired (mornings and evenings) so I look out and try not to think in those lines at those times.  And when I wonder about will I be able to...also makes me sad.

    We can keep our selves going remembering how blessed we are and how lucky in other ways we are and staying positive but sometimes the blues sneak in.  That's OK.  But at the worst if we come here someone should be able to shake us out of the bad groove into a good one.

    Maybe just imagining yourself in a Xena outfit might bring a small smile?  I never thought I had the legs for it...And failing all else, go for the magic bullet-CHOCOLATE!!

    Hope your day improves. Cool

  • kristin09
    kristin09 Member Posts: 56
    edited August 2009

    Karen - glad you're feeling better, I hope it continues.  Shall we race to see who's hair falls out first??  We're on different drugs, so who knows!  Care to place a wager??!!  :))

    Reni - hope that you're doing well today.  Yesterday (day 4) was my worst so far on TC and it's primarily because my system dumped on me and completely emptied out.  Warning - don't overdo the stool softeners!  :)

    Janet - is your scalp hurting with the hair loss?  Day 15, eh . . . I'm getting prepared!

    I am at work again today and feeling much, much better.  My fog has lifted and I am able to read and think clearly.  Just a few minor aches but Aleve has helped.  We'll see what the next few days bring.

    K

  • MaineCoonKitty
    MaineCoonKitty Member Posts: 125
    edited August 2009

    Yo-yo!

    I love the Xena costume idea.  I was a big fan of that show.  A very good friend of mine was a member of the cast - Kevin Smith.  He played Ares, God of War.  Sadly, he was killed on a movie set a few yrs after the show ended.

    Kristin - you give me hope for an easy time with SE's every day.  Tomorrow is my big day and I hope to post a blow-by-blow account of the 1st cycle for the laides who come after me.  Your posts have helped me a lot.  Glad you're feeling better today.

    Hugs to all the August Amazons!

  • jenn3
    jenn3 Member Posts: 3,316
    edited August 2009

    Good afternoon- I can finally say - I'm feeling better.  I think the sinus infection is what set me back, but now I feel good and ready to get moving (again).  My daughter starts her senior year of high school Thursday so today we are going to get out of the house to see "The Ugly Truth"

    Welcome Anita and ScoobyDoo - you'll find a lot of support on this thread and the many others on this website.

    Kristen - I am so glad to hear how well you're doing - it gives us all something to look forward to.  I laughed at the stool softners comment.... Traffic was backed up and I took took them along with eating fiber - big mistake, when the tides turned it was like a race at the Daytona 500.

    YoYo - I agree with what you said about everyone here understanding.  Although we have friends and family it is hard to understand all of the ups/downs and twist we face unless you are going thru it.  I feel like at times I have to be strong for my family and don't express how truly bad I'm feeling.  I can come here and say - I feel like poop, then it's like a weight has lifted off of my shoulder and I can move on with my day.

    Navymom- I'm sorry you're feeling blue today - (((((hugs)))))))

    Karen - glad to hear you're feeling better - I'm sure you couldn't wait for that!!!

    Janet - did you cut your hair in anticipation of the hair loss or was it a wait and see?

    Hope everyone has a good day - talk to y'all later

  • Reni
    Reni Member Posts: 81
    edited August 2009

    JanetH - verry tired and quesy today (second day) about to go in for my Neulista shot... Oncologist told me 80% chance of losing hair because when I had ACT and lost all my hair then.

    Kristin09 - Thanks for the stool softener warning...

    Tx ladies... off to rest... really really tired... 

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