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Is anybody's mother this crazy?

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  • Shappy
    Shappy Member Posts: 67
    edited January 2011

    I am so upset right now!!  My cousin just called me to tell me that my mother's sister died (around 84-87 not sure).  I called my mother (93) to let her know.

    My mother has NO dementia.  She gave about 30 seconds pretend concern that her sister died.  Then she asked, 'what should I do?'  Maybe I just couldn't take her self-centeredness anymore and said, "Maybe you could have spoken to her in the last 10 years."

    FWIW one lives in Ohio, the other California.  Haven't spoken to each other for over 10 years (not angry at each other.) Her response was an angry "Well, she didn't call me either."

    My mother is 93 years old.  She never worked after she was married (over 65 years ago). Financially independent (yes, my dad worked), has great health insurance (courtesy of Uncle Sam and my husband).  She has NEVER had cancer or heart disease (other than hypertension for 40 years which has never hurt her.)

    All she does is complain about her health.  She couldn't call her sister or brother because of "all my health problems."  She doesn't have any health problems!!!!  She's been 'going blind' (NOT) for over 20 years.  She's had 'something wrong' (code word big "C") with her bowels for 40 years (NOT).

    Now my husband in his 60s has had real health issues (almost died last year).  I'm just recovering from breast biopsy, etc.  

    I am so angry I could spit bullets.  I never had a sister.  If I did I would cherish her.  This woman had many sisters and ignored them.  Dismissed them.  She has had excellent health.  I don't think I've ever met anyone is their 90s who didn't have cancer and was cured.  All she does is complain about minor health issues.  She has no compassion for anyone.  When my husband's brother died of colon cancer at age 51 she said  "he would be better off if he just went."

    Everything revolves around her and her non-existent health problems.  I could just scream.  Just look at all the brave courageous women on this site.

    Don't tell me it's just because she's old.  She's always been like this.  But as my husband and I have REAL health issues I find I just can't tolerate listening to her dribble.  And BTW that's all she wants to talk about is her 'problems'.  She will not discuss anything else.   I could go on for pages about all the things that are positive in her life but she ignores.

    Thanks for letting me vent! 

  • lovemyfamilysomuch
    lovemyfamilysomuch Member Posts: 1,585
    edited August 2009

    Oh, Shappy, that does sound upsetting.  I am sorry you have to deal with this family dynamic in addition to your own medical concerns.  It sounds like she really gets to you.I am glad you felt safe enough to vent here, because here is a good place to do it with nobody judging you!  Take care!

  • mammalamma
    mammalamma Member Posts: 30
    edited August 2009
    OMG!  I am just glad that you have what you need emotionally now - she sounds like one cold diva. I would never want to say ...'an eye for an eye...' but how is it that she has all of you guys around her in these late yearsof her life?   So many sweet old folks get dumped at the end, no phone calls, nothing to help them wait things out.  So sad.  Makes me wonder what kind of a mama she was when you were little?  well...you be nice to you now - it's very important.Wink
  • cp418
    cp418 Member Posts: 7,079
    edited August 2009
    Shappy - - cheer up - - you are not ALONE!!  She sounds like my MIL who never took care of herself and now does have some health issues at age 82.  There is a post somewhere about the the 'Worst things someone has said to you'.  It is PAGES LONG of breast cancer patients having to deal with people like your mother, ( and MANY MUCH MUCH WORSE!!!), if you can believe it.  Yes, these individuals are present in all generations and age, sex don't make a difference.  Just remember she will never change - - but the only thing you have some influence over, is HOW you react to her comments.  That is the critical part that I continue to struggle with it.  Deep breath..........  Sealed
  • 61linda
    61linda Member Posts: 64
    edited August 2009

    Oh Shappy - your Mom sounds like my Dad although he didn't talk about his health issues. He did continuously lecture on his area of interest - politics. He couldn't even listen to anything else without suddenly shifting any conversation back to what he was interested in. He had some health issues as he got older but they were treated and manageable until one got bad enough to kill him. Until then he was mostly healthy, lived alone and pursued his interests to the exclusion of everything and everyone else. He was just as self involved and probably would have been diagnosed as narcissistic. He died a year ago at 92, three weeks short of 93, and I miss him. I never thought I would while he was still alive.



    Anyway, all that to say although my Dad drove me nuts, I understand now that it was all based in the traumatic things that happened to him as a young child. His father, grandfather and a number of uncles died in the Spanish flu when he was not quite 3. They were farming families and lived in a tiny, isolated, community. His very young Mom remarried a brutal psychopath who eventually killed the other children they had together and himself. Life was very hard for him. I still trust he tried his best as a parent himself. Maybe the key here is that I believe he did do the best he could given the tools he had to work with. That didn't make his own brutality any easier to live with growing up but it helps me to understand why he was the way he was. I hope you can look at your Mom and figure out what happened to her to make her the way she is.



    Some people learn compassion from these life lessons, others are so wounded they can only close themselves up and not let anyone in. Just like your Mom and my Dad. I always wondered how my mother lived with him for 60 years. For the record, my mother was certifiably crazy.



    I really know just how you feel so keep spitting those bullets, girl, until you feel better. We're good for it. Not a thing you can do will ever change her or her behavior. My thoughts are with you. Like CP 418 said, the only thing you can control is how you react to it and try to do better ourselves. Very gentle hugs........

  • Sierra
    Sierra Member Posts: 1,638
    edited August 2009

    Hi there

    I understand your frustration here

    and .. would let you know

    I also deal with a Mom who is

    in a Nursing Home

    I wont post much on public forum

    leave it at that, but somedays I have

    to.. just rise about it, and carry on

    You would not believe some of the stories

    sending hugs to you

    Sierra :))

  • Isabella4
    Isabella4 Member Posts: 2,166
    edited August 2009

    Shappy.

    Sounds just like my MIL ...shes SO self centered I could smother her.

    I have known her 25 years, she's poorly (not) and will come and see us 'when she is feeling better' She's 92 now, and fit as a lop, she could give me a run for my money. She lives alone and just sits all day 'feeling poorly'

    2 of her sisters were taken ill, she made no effort whatsoever to go and see them even though they lived less than a mile from her, she complained when they didn't come and see her, even though she knew they were dying. She never went near the last few days, she said she'd go 'when she was feeling a bit better' even though she knew they wouldn't last long. She wouldn't go to either funeral, she had 'a bit of 'flu' both times.

    Her one and only brother took ill, cancer, she again 'felt too ill to go out', never saw him again. DH called for her on the day of the funeral, after reading her the riot act on the 'phone, but she just would not come out of her house.

    She is a disgrace. All her friends are long gone, because of her selfish ways. She just sits all day moaning she's lonely. She won't come to us at Christmas....she's 2 miles away. I used to have terrible guilt feelings about this. All the family sitting down to a meal, while she sat on her own. I used to ring and call in on her to ask her to come, but now I just have lost patience with her, and leave her to stew.

    I just wish I was as fit as she is, I suffer badly from Arimidex se's, and feel like death warmed up some days, but I have to keep going, my walking is bad, I have plantar fasiitis in both feet, MIL can trot along nicely when she wants to. She won't watch tv, read, knit, sew nor do anything at all but say she's 'not very well'.  I called her bluff once, after being sooooo sick of her constantly moaning to me about 'not feeling well' and got her GP out, she went mad. The GP told her she was fitter than he was, and didn't ail a thing....she was spitting feathers at me for weeks after that ! I just have no time for her now. We had a family christening a few weeks back, just everyone was there, NOT MIL !! It was her 1st ggg/daughter, and she should have been there. It would be easier to take if she didn't constantly say she was lonely, and no-one came to see her, or bothers about her. 

    DH goes every day,( I wish he spent as much time asking me if I felt OK and did I want anything doing !! ) She complains to him that I never come and sit with her, as his 'dear 1st wife' would have done...she's been dead 30 years ! 

    So, don't feel bad about your mother. I know I like my privacy, and like to be alone, but if I thought any of my family were very ill I would be over to lend a hand, just like they all did for me (NOT!!) when I was dx'd !!!!

    Isabella. 

  • Shappy
    Shappy Member Posts: 67
    edited January 2011

    Thanks for everyone's responses.  I'm not looking for sympathy at all but just to vent as it is so frustrating to deal with a mother with the emotional maturity of a 10 year old.

    Isabella my mother sounds exactly like your MIL. Won't leave her house.  Wouldn't come to her beautiful granddaughter's wedding last year.

    If anything, she serves of an example of what NOT to be.  Objectively she has so much to be thankful for, especially wonderful grandchildren who talk to her and visit. But according to her, she can't be happy at all because of all of her 'problems.' Yes, like 100% normal lab tests.

    She also won't do anything, she just sits all day and ruminates about her 'problems.' Every time I try to get her to read, knit, sew etc she has an excuse.  She has one granddaughter in medical school.  According to her that's a very bad thing, she should have been a nurse.  That's when I get up and say "I gotta go now mom."

    Anyway thanks all for the venting, I feel better now! 

  • London-Virginia
    London-Virginia Member Posts: 851
    edited August 2009

    Dear Isabella, just a thought for your plantar trouble -

    before I was DX, I had already plantar f trouble for quite a long time.  As I was determined to keep up with my exercise regime, I kept going with the use of prosthetics in my shoes (without them you can apparently also have sore hips.  and knees.   sigh!)  I also got toe pains, often called moreton's syndrome.  Anyway, this is a meta tarsal problem and can be relieved by getting one of those sort of rubber thingies that spread your toes for you to paint your toenails.  I found it helped loads - I just put it "on" whilst sitting down, or when I went to bed.  Ok, it falls off quite quickly but is only there to stretch things.   I am doing  fairly ok at the mo with plantar etc, even tho I have recently started Femara.  If this is useless info, feel free to chuck a shoe at me!

    all best wishes -

  • SoCalLisa
    SoCalLisa Member Posts: 13,961
    edited August 2009

    Hi Shappy, sorry you have to deal with an "it's all about me" Mom...

    but lets face it, it has worked for her for so many years, the chances

    of her changing is slim...unfortuneately..

    my mother is 90 and lives

    on the other coast..and I figured I was the one to figure out

    how to endure the friction...

    Good luck to you..hugs

  • mammalamma
    mammalamma Member Posts: 30
    edited August 2009

    Hello again, everyone.  These replies have been inspirational for me [believe it or not!].  I'm 54, have 3 kids still at home, and some days I don't want to leave the safety and comfort of my room [I am in Stage IV, big time pain and fatigue].  But....for my kids, this is probably the equivalent of my avoiding them and they can't be expected to understand.  So, all these grouchy old kooks -  still can't have their way, b/c the stories I read here encourage me to be just the opposite of what their lives were like.  So, thanks for sharing all that you have, and I thank God for how He can take any and every bit of experience that crosses my path, and use it to teach me,  IF I remain teachable.  Thanks again to all of my Stage IV companions--it would be the ultimate loneliness if I felt like I was all alone in the experience of facing this bizarre situation.    Marykay

  • Isabella4
    Isabella4 Member Posts: 2,166
    edited August 2009

    Hi Virginia.

    Thanks for advice, I will try the toe spreaded thingies...I will try anything !!

    I shall sellotape them to my feet when I go to bed....just pray we don't have a fire....I wear the oddest pj's. nothing ever matches, just as they come outta the drawer!

    I also wear hand splints on a night, I shall scare the firemen to death, they'll toss me back into the flames I will look such a clown.

    What we come to... only seems like yesterday we were getting dressed up in see thru's and baby dolls to go to bed   Blushy 4 Blushy 4 Blushy 4

    Isabella.    





  • Connie07
    Connie07 Member Posts: 636
    edited August 2009

    Thanks for starting this thread, I wanted to start it myself, but, if my mother ever found out, there would BE HELL TO PAY!!!! 

    As long as I'm venting;  If it ain't one thing, it's YOUR MOTHER.

    My mother is 80, is a spoiled brat and ridiculously high maintenance and LIKES being that way. She has a forked and sharp tongue and doesn't know when to SHUT UP. She has put me down for one thing or another all my 56 years.

    She had bc, chemo and Tamoxifen for 6 years. I went with her to some chemo, but she can't seem to remember me going.  She's had all kinds of surgeries from cosmetic ear lobe tucks and eye lifts to massive amounts of dental work. This woman is the most selfish person on the planet. We (the normal parts of the family) are constantly surprised at the levels she will go to in order to "Look Good". Or sometimes just cause she wants to spend money. She thinks it grows on trees and she does NOT have unlimited funds. She changed Dad's will before he passed, to make her the one and only beneficiary, when Dad had specifically planned for her and for their 3 kids. I'm the middle one.

    She, in the past year has spent hundreds OF thousands, spending on CRAP that has no value. Yes, she's done some fixing up of the house... mostly cosmetic improvements, new doors inside, new rock drive outside.. Oh, and her teeth, her wardrobe, new appliances all over the house, including a jetted tub installed in the place of a perfectly good regular one. Then, she went to the lot and bought a brand new Cadillac, wait... that wasn't enough, it needed to go out of town and have a fabric 1/2 roof bolted on with what looks like gold nuts, cause that's 'pretty'. (One of Dad's requests to her was that she NOT go out and buy a brand new car.) He knew. He put up with a lot more than we ever realized.

    She yelled at me when I was the only one who responded to a crisis at her house. She has alienated ALL of the friends she had in town, and my brother, who lives out of town, this extends to include her alienating 4 out of 5 grandchildren. She has called and hired contractors and let them walk all over her. She made me fire the staff and shut down the family business in a swift but uninformed sale of a retail property that was bringing her monthly rent money.

    There's more but I gotta fix dinner...

    ~Connie

  • pattih
    pattih Member Posts: 631
    edited September 2009

    Shappy! Were we separated at birth! Congratulations you now have four sisters and brother. Sounds like my mom. Who has been bitter and angry since the day she was born. She doesn't talk to her sisters either. Even when they are sick and dying. Heck she doesn't call us. It is our job to call her. I could go on and on but really it is a broken record.

    Jus to let you know it is your turn to host Thanksgiving. We rotate.

  • dreamwriter
    dreamwriter Member Posts: 3,255
    edited September 2009

    My mother was evil.  She raised a daughter to be just like her.  I have nothing to do with either of them.  I suspect that my mother (Im adopted so I dont have to worry about hereditary factors) has met the devil and taken his place.  She only spoke to me about when I grew up and the things I would buy her when I was working.  My mother considered herself a lady and was disappointed that my father did not take her to parties where she could dance and dress elegantly.  She studied elegance and practiced it.  I was never good enough for her.  I dont know what she was thinking getting a kid to screw with her head.  I was introduced as the adopted daughter.  I was never allowed to forget that I was adopted.  I should be grateful for the food and housing she provided.  I should be grateful for the good schools I got to go to.  I should keep my mouth shut was to what dad did behind closed bedroom doors.  After all I was to blame for it.  My life was hell until I left.  My children have survived my mothering and both are willing to go with me to appts so I must not have alienated them too badly.

    That childhood gave me the armor for todays battle.  So I suck it up but refuse to say thank you.  My father died when I was 18.  My mother - I suspect that she passed on because the telephone is now listed in my sisters name.  Same address.

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