Any triple neg's getting Taxotere & Cytoxan only?

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  • misty123
    misty123 Member Posts: 242
    edited July 2009

    Good Luck ladies I finished 4 roundsTC this March, can be hard but is doable.

  • tibet
    tibet Member Posts: 545
    edited July 2009

    Journey NC

    The receptors they tested that is normally for the tumor of IDC. Did they test the DCIS portion which is the non-invasive part?

    Mine was that they first tested the IDC which was TN and I insisted them to test DCIS which showed up that the DCIS was ER+. They usually don't test DCIS receptors unless you ask them for. 

  • mbmoss
    mbmoss Member Posts: 24
    edited July 2009

    When I was 1st dx in 2006 I had AC followed by Taxol, 4 each. I was just dx w/ metz to both lungs. Will start chemo Monday, Cytoxan w/ Taxtrene (same as Taxol)  together at the same time. Said you can only have Adriamycin once b/c dangerous effects on heart. This combo now is a bit less effective than for those who are getting it the 1st time. 60% response rate compared to 45-50% for me now. These have the potential to cause peripheral nerve damage,so call if you start having it not when it get bad. Just remember, this is all temperary.

  • greytmom_17
    greytmom_17 Member Posts: 162
    edited July 2009

    Jean, I'm in about the same situation you are, but a little ahead of you.  My oncologist gave me the go ahead to get expansions during my chemo, as long as I didn't get them the week of treatment.  so I started chemo on June 10, had 2nd on 7/1, with expansions in between.  My understanding is the earliest my onco will clear me for surgery is 1 month after finishing chemo.  I think my technical end date is 9/2 or so.  But, that depends on blood work and everthing else being OK.  So far the only SE I've had are fatigue and some muscle aches.  2 down, 2 to go!

  • tibet
    tibet Member Posts: 545
    edited July 2009

    mbmoss

    Did you have 17 positive nodes the first time dx? 

  • JourneyNC
    JourneyNC Member Posts: 69
    edited July 2009

    Jean 12, OK!! great and I will keep you in Prayer!

  • JourneyNC
    JourneyNC Member Posts: 69
    edited July 2009

    newalex, I have the pathology report, which was done from my first lumpectomy. It is unclear to me, but it reads there is an addendum to the DCIS which I'll inquire with my Onc. Thank you for relating this excellent question....

  • mbmoss
    mbmoss Member Posts: 24
    edited July 2009

    Yes 17 of the 34 they removed were positive back in 2006. Have been clear since, till now.

  • White929
    White929 Member Posts: 53
    edited July 2009

    Hi Triple Neg's!  Anyone out here going through chemo now? 

    I go for my 2nd of 4 on Thursday.  Is the second one like the first one?  Only had one day I felt like I was hit by a truck.  Other than that, not many SEs the first time around.

    Thanks for any feedback.

    Have a great daySmile

  • greytmom_17
    greytmom_17 Member Posts: 162
    edited July 2009

    White929 - I go for my 3rd tomorrow.  I found the 2nd easier then the first, less tired, fewer aches, still no other problems.  And I didn't lose any more hair after that cycle either.  Good luck. 

  • marielf
    marielf Member Posts: 15
    edited July 2009

    Hello,

    I had my first CT treatement on the 13th.  I had my blood work drawn on the 10th which helped shorten my first treatment.  We arrived at the hospital at 10 am and left @ 5. 

    My 27 year old daughter and husband came with me.  Before my second treatment, they said that it would be ok if I took some of my anxiouty meds to help relax before treatment.  Good Idea!

    They ran each very slow. Some of the side effects that I have had this week

    The big one Constipation.  Cry  Someone posted to take Colace which is helping. Thank You for the tip. 

    clammy tongue and food taste different

    dry lips and eye lids on one eye

    pains in joints and muscles.  mostly on my right side and lower back pain

    I go back on Aug 5th for my second treatment.  Wondering if the symptoms will get worse or be about the same as the first.  

    The nurse that started my treatment said the a lot of patients who get TC don't loose their hair.  Often it just thins out.  Can any one tell me what happened after receiving a TC treatment?

  • carolinachick
    carolinachick Member Posts: 387
    edited July 2009

    marielf - the Colace should really help.  For mouth issues, I used Biotene toothpaste and mouthwash.  You can buy it at the drug store or Walmart-type stores.  It really helps moisten your mouth and prevents mouth sores.  Foods also tasted different to me.  Fresh fruit was the one thing I craved - a friend brought over a fruit salad and I ate that constantly.

    I found my second treatment somewhat easier, since I knew what to expect.  After that the treatments were a little worse since the effects were cumulative, but it wasn't anything I couldn't handle.  I lost most of my hair about halfway after my second treatment and ended up shaving it off.

  • Peggy5
    Peggy5 Member Posts: 3
    edited July 2009

    marielf -- hang in there. I used Senakot S every night till about 2 weeks after my chemo stopped and it really helped with the constipation. The Biotene mouthwash and toothpaste helped with dry mouth. All my foods tasted terrible( salty) no matter what I ate. I loved ( bottled) Smart water --it was very refreshing and drink lots.
     
    I started to lose my hair around day 19 so I had it shaved off. Loved the cotton scarves, nice and cool.
     
    The chemo is cumulative so the after effects may seem a bit worse but hang in there -- you can do it. The pain can be treated with meds--talk to your doc's, now is not the time to be a hero-- tell them how you feel.
     
    I am 1 1/2 years out and I feel really good. This time last year not a hair on my head and now I feeling good and I am going for my 4th hair cut. 
     
    Take care of yourself. Get plenty of sleep, eat healthy and go for a nice walk. 
  • White929
    White929 Member Posts: 53
    edited July 2009

    greytmom_17:    How are you doing after tx 3?  I had my 2 tx yesterday and am tired and my mouth feels like crap. My hair was coming out pretty good on day 18, so had it shaved on the 19th down to a stubble.

    marielf:  I started taking Senocot the day of chemo through 5 days at night before bed and had no problems with bowels at all, Thank God!  I too have the clammy tounge and rinse with Biotene when I get up and throughout the day.  It helps for the taste and to help prevent mouth sores.  I am on TC as well, and my onc said there was a zero percent chance of not losing my hair...sorry to tell you that.  Mine started coming out day 18 lots, so I got tired of cleaning it up.  If you don't lose your hair, let me know!

    I invite you all to another forum I post on for all of us starting chemo in  July...There are lots of us, so come one over!  It is Starting Chemo in July 2009...we welcome all!

    Peggy5:  Thanks for the post!  You give us all hope and we really can use all of that we can get!  Glad to hear you are doing so well!Smile

  • marielf
    marielf Member Posts: 15
    edited July 2009

    Thanks for responding.  Really not computer smart and often wonder if I know what I am doing when posting anything.

    Will find my way to Starting Chemo in July.

  • JourneyNC
    JourneyNC Member Posts: 69
    edited July 2009

    Heyy my TN Sisters,

    Had a massage today at the Presbyterian Cancer Center in Charlotte, NC. I had a 30min upper body massage. Something about someone massaging my hands, I knock right OUT! The masseuse massaged my entire head/scalp/neck/arms/hands/back. I'm hooked. He indicated this should be done on the upper end of the Chemo (possibly your end of 2nd week into your 3rd week). Therefore, my 3rd is next week I'm anxious to get over. I need to start walking, but I tire out sooo easily.

    Peace and Health

  • White929
    White929 Member Posts: 53
    edited July 2009

    Can anyone tell me how to update my picture?  It keeps erroring out on me..

  • greytmom_17
    greytmom_17 Member Posts: 162
    edited August 2009

    Well, I've had 3 of my treatments, the last one is next Wednesday!  For me, each treatment has seemed easier since I know what to expect and know what to do to ward of side effects.  My blood counts have been good all the way through.  My hair actually has started growing and none came out after #2. If it's going to come out with #3 it should start by Wednesday so we'll see.  Good luck ladies!

  • Wink
    Wink Member Posts: 722
    edited August 2009

    I received four doses of C/T and finished in Nov 08.  I found that two days after tx, I felt like I was run over by a train.  Come to find out (thanks to my Sisters here), that feeling was the decadron premed wearing off.  Lots of women said that their onc gave them a decadron taper, e.g. day after tx take one in the morning and 1 at night; next day 1 in morning, 1/2 at night; next day 1/2 in morning, 1/2 at night, etc.  This made so much sense, but I was mad that my onc had not mentioned it.  So, for my last tx I asked for a decadron taper and it made a BIG difference.  I still suffered from fatigue, but no train wreck!

    Hey all you Carolina Girls!

  • mrschilicook
    mrschilicook Member Posts: 23
    edited August 2009

    I had TC last year (finished in Dec.)  For this type of cancer, my oncologist said that the two cocktails are quite sufficient.  And, in my case, no follow up med's either.  I was also lucky enough to be a candidate for mammosite radiation which only takes 5 days.  Good Luck!  It wasn't nearly as bad as I had imagined.  Not a breeze, but pretty easy to deal with.   Be sure that they give you a slow drip though.  The first session they did the drips pretty quick and I was so thirsty I couldn't drink enough within minutes of the session thru about 3 days.  The next sessions they did slower and reversed the order of the TC and it was MUCH MUCH MUCH better.  Thirst was increased (normal) but not like I was drying out. 

  • JourneyNC
    JourneyNC Member Posts: 69
    edited August 2009
    Nausea and Diarhea are visiting me this week. My last treatment will me 8/19/09. Fuzz on head hurts, corner eyelash of 1 eye gone. Wink  Taking Claritan 24hr which works for bone pain. It's very manageable, who would think?  Menapause blow torch flashes have me crying the blues..sorry folks...need to get it out My Onc's nurse had a nice pin I'd like to say. "Cancer Sucks!" 
  • JourneyNC
    JourneyNC Member Posts: 69
    edited August 2009

    Ok, today's a better day..Enjoyed tax free weekend and bought up a storm. I actually did some house cleaning and washed/folded loads of clothes. The energy is back. 

    Question: does anyone have an exercise regimen they're in-between chemo treatments?  

  • carolinachick
    carolinachick Member Posts: 387
    edited August 2009

    Journey - I'm glad you're having a better day today.  I didn't have a set exercise routine, I just walked when I felt up to it.  I found the fresh air did me worlds of good.  I've also found that the "chemopause" hot flashes have tapered off quite a bit (I finished chemo on 4/22).

    I also noticed that there are a few Carolina girls on this thread!

  • holligoog
    holligoog Member Posts: 75
    edited August 2009

    I was Dx with TNBC in Dec. 08 and had 4 rounds of Taxotere & Cytoxan. Onc said since I was only stage IIa with no node involvement I did not need ACT or any chemo that could cause cardiac issues.

    My story~ http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/hollisimpsongough

    My Battle - My Victory

    Yesterday I fought a Battle, But I did not fight alone-

    I had a Protector - A Guide, I was never on my own

    This enemy came to me suddenly, No warning as to prepare-

    And before I knew what happened, this enemy was everywhere.

    I felt so overwhelmed; Did no one know my pain?

    How could this be happening to me, How did it know my name?

    Today I fight this battle, The enemy with me still

    It has not yet taken control, Nor has it broke my will

    It is hurtful and it is cruel, It doesn't care the damage it causes

    It is wearing down my defenses; I can soon count my losses.

    It is ruthless and emotionless, Its purpose to destroy

    I can not, must not let it, Will not let it have control

    Hear me when I tell you, Please listen when I say

    I have many scars from this battle; I do struggle from day to day

    It takes many things from me; Within my body it has much power

    It affects loved ones around me; The battle has become a war

    You may not know by looking at me, Then again maybe you can,

    That this enemy shows no mercy, I fall when I can no longer stand

    It does not care what age you are, or your status here on Earth

    It doesn't count your income, or what you think you are worth

    This battle that I speak of, Cancer is its name

    And because I continue to fight, I will never be the same!

    Tomorrow may never come for me; I live only in the present

    My life is right here, right now, What I have is this very moment

    But I will continue to fight, For I learned down on my knees

    is where I fight this battle, It is where God gives me the victory.

  • JourneyNC
    JourneyNC Member Posts: 69
    edited August 2009

    Hello All,

    holligoog: I read you journal and it is quite interesting. You went through an ordeal and I empathize with you. Hope all is well with your home. It's making me think about the water stains on one of my walls in the hallway close to the air filter I need checked out. How are you doing with the study? I inquired about going on a study here in Charlotte, but they indicated that didn't have any and/or I was not in a high stage of TNBC.

  • JourneyNC
    JourneyNC Member Posts: 69
    edited August 2009

    Heyyy carolinachick!

    I'm so over these burning hot flashes. They are not hot, they are ultrasonic heat waves that have my face on fire. LOL. I go shopping to walk (since you know it feels 100degrees outside). I did so much walking during Tax Free weekend, I was a couch potato the next day. 

    I'm counting down to my last treatment next Wednesday. A Celebration is in order. Cool

  • gloriam
    gloriam Member Posts: 2
    edited August 2009

    I just received my second dose of TC on Thursday last week, next day I received a shot of Neulasta and by Sunday I could not move out of bed from bone pain.  Mon, Tues. Wed. much diarrhea, nausea and bone pain. Today back to work, dreading the stairs but feel I can do it.  I have lot's of support here two friends who are survivors.  I am the only triple negative in the group.  The Doc did say no Adryamicyn due to family hx of cardiac  problems, although MUGA scan showed a healthy heart.  

  • carolinachick
    carolinachick Member Posts: 387
    edited August 2009

    Hang in there gloriam.  You can get through it.  I also had TC (4 rounds), but was able to avoid the Neulasta.  From what I've heard that's worse than the actual chemo drugs.  Sending good thoughts your way...

  • JourneyNC
    JourneyNC Member Posts: 69
    edited August 2009

    Finally finished by chemo treatment...CELEBRATED TOO!!!

    My Mom is helping me along with my last treatment. She hasn't seen me bald, but say's I look good!

    Now that this is over with and journeying through the last effects of chemo, I am tagging off to my Radiologist Onc...6wks everyday sounds like a burder getting there, but WE will get through this.

  • Wink
    Wink Member Posts: 722
    edited August 2009

    Congrats JourneyNC! I know that you are relieved to be done.  I'm part of the Bisphosphnate trial; this is a trial using 3 different bone strengthening drugs (Zometa, Boniva, etc) in an effort to prevent bone mets.  My onc thought that it was something proactive that I could do following chemo as there are no other drugs for us TNs post chemo.

    Holli - are you in Raleigh?

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