Soy tocopherol acitate in my CoQ10, Soybean oil in my Vit E

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Luna5
Luna5 Member Posts: 738
edited June 2014 in Complementary and Holistic Medicine and Treatment

Should I take my CoQ10 if it has soy as one of the additional ingredients?  Should I take my Vit E if it has soybean oil in it?

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  • tiff2008
    tiff2008 Member Posts: 278
    edited July 2009

    Good question!  I've wondered the same thing.  Maybe someone will come along soon to answer....

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  • spar2
    spar2 Member Posts: 6,827
    edited July 2009

    I was told my my onc to stay away from anything with soy (only those of us that are hormone positive)

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  • trigeek
    trigeek Member Posts: 916
    edited July 2009

    Dont quote me but soy lecithin was ok, but soy protein isolate was bad ? buutttt.. I just got a coq10 from costco and found out it has soy so it goes to my mom..

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  • susan13
    susan13 Member Posts: 732
    edited July 2009

    I just ordered this CO Q10, no soy.

    http://www.puritan.com/kosher-certified-560/co-q-10-120-mg-kosher-019983

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  • Rosemary44
    Rosemary44 Member Posts: 2,660
    edited July 2009

    Soybean oil and soy lecithin has to go through processing that leaves pesticides and a component of Drano behind.  They can't get it all out.  So it's all according to how much Drano we like in our vitamins. 

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  • drgnfly
    drgnfly Member Posts: 111
    edited August 2009

    I found a liquid vitamin E at Vitamin Shoppe that has no soy. I take five drops daily. My docs have told me to avoid soy, so I look for all of my vitamins and supplements to be soy free. I will have to double check my CO-Q-10!

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  • Dawnbelle
    Dawnbelle Member Posts: 696
    edited August 2009

    There is soy in everything, I was shocked! Mayonnaise, ketchup, even ice cream!

    We need a master list of products that are safe for us to eat & use. And flax seed! Half the girls take extra & half avoid it. Confusion is an understatement.

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  • Rosemary44
    Rosemary44 Member Posts: 2,660
    edited August 2009

    Mayonnaise killed me.  It's the first ingredient listed...soybean oil.  I'd like to write Hellmann's and ask if they can quarantee there are no pesticides or chemicals in their soybean oil.  I want a lab tested quarantee.  I won't hear back. 

    I found dark chocolate at Whole Foods without soy...it's called Equal Exchange.  There's no soy in Dreyers frozen fruit bars.  Some of them have Splenda, so we have to watch.  Pacifica organic almond milk, no soy.   

    Flaxseed, I'm in the half that thinks it's ok to eat. 

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  • gscott
    gscott Member Posts: 140
    edited August 2009

    is soy okay for fibrocystic breast but not diagnosed with cancer yet?

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  • London-Virginia
    London-Virginia Member Posts: 851
    edited August 2009

    I discussed quite a long listwith my onc this week, and really, she advises  binning anything with any type of soy in it, so I will.  Bloody nuisance - even my Whey Protein, on arefuol checking, contains some soy.

     Conclusion : buy shares in soy, it is in a lot of stuff where it doesn'tneed to be.

    GSCott : without a dx you won't know if you are oestrogen positive or not, so you can't tell whether it is ok or not.  Up to you!

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  • Rufusmama
    Rufusmama Member Posts: 19
    edited August 2009

    Rosemary44...Thank you for saying this!  I would be interested to know if there are many women (like me) who consumed lots of soy products prior to being diagnosed with bc.  I was taking soy supplements for menopausal symptoms for a few years prior to bc and eating lots of soy burgers etc., as I thought this was healthy for me. 

    There is a "SoyOnline" website has tons of information about the dangers of soy.  When I was diagnosed, I actually reported it (and my concerns about the soy link) to the FDA via the MedWatch program, which collects and tracks information related to adverse events that may be related to either drugs or supplements.  This can be done via the FDA website or by calling the FDA. 

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  • Rosemary44
    Rosemary44 Member Posts: 2,660
    edited August 2009

    Rufus,

    I'm one of them.  I ate everything soy the year before I was dx'd.  I blame it for my tumor becoming invasive.  It was caught early but still it was breaking out.  Genistein in soy promotes tumor growth. 

    Soy and our thyroids don't mix either.  I'm pretty annoyed that we can't buy anything without soy but in a way they might be doing us a favor.  We'll have to eat healthy, how hard is it to make our own ketchup ( I don't know, I never tried), and who needs to be eating mayo anyway?

    I'm happy to see you tried to do something by reporting to the govt.  I write the companies who add this to our food stuffs.  They don't reply. 

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  • Coey
    Coey Member Posts: 1
    edited July 2010

    Soy is all over the place!  Not only in foods, but cosmetics, even in an instant hand sanitizer.  Just because you aren't eating it doesn't mean it it won't get into your bloodstream. (remember the nicotine patch is absorbed through the skin)  If an ingredient isn't called soy on the label, it can be labelled as tocopherol, d-Alpha tocopherol, glycerin tocopheryl, soja, and probably lots of other ingredient names I haven't run across yet.

    It's hard enough being a cancer survivor, but I have just been diagnosed with diabetes and I'm finding there are more medications I can't take because they contain soy ingredients.  If we can't find a way to have consistency in labeling, what are we supposed to do? 

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  • CrunchyPoodleMama
    CrunchyPoodleMama Member Posts: 1,220
    edited July 2010

    It really TICKS me off that soy is in everything. Since I only take two supplements now (iodine and vitamin D) and make a lot of my own food now from organic ingredients, I don't have to worry about soy any more, but it really upsets me that pretty much everything in a grocery store except for the produce aisle has soy and corn in them (and worse, they are genetically modified unless you buy organic).

    BTW, I've always hated mayonnaise, but decided to make my own a few weeks ago (because I wanted to make organic potato salad) based on Sally Fallon's lacto-fermented recipe. I made it with flax oil, pastured egg yolks and other wholesome ingredients... it was a bit thinner than store-bought but SO good and full of enzymes. Honestly, it wasn't much trouble to make it. I've gotten to a point where I would rather make my own things like that and KNOW that it's healthy rather than trusting the store-bought version.

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  • goldie0827
    goldie0827 Member Posts: 6,595
    edited July 2010

    I agree SOY in EVERYTHING. I am amazed. You want to eat healthy, so you make a salad....check your dressing ladies...SOY. You can buy a canola mayonaise that contains no soy. I have been making my own salad dressings with that. 1000 island recipe from scratch, really quite easy and I think the powdered ranch dressing is ok. One of my favorites, altho not healthy, Cheetos :(  I actually thought if someone started a website with all soy free items might do well!

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  • CrunchyPoodleMama
    CrunchyPoodleMama Member Posts: 1,220
    edited July 2010

    Goldie, powdered ranch dressing contains MSG... not sure if that is cancer-causing directly, but REALLY bad for you in many ways... you're doing the right thing making your own salad dressings! It's not hard, like you said, and SO much healthier than store-bought!

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  • goldie0827
    goldie0827 Member Posts: 6,595
    edited July 2010

    Thanks Mama, I guess I have my eyes so focused on looking for soy, I didn't see the MSG. I still get salads when we go out to eat.

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  • Husband11
    Husband11 Member Posts: 2,264
    edited July 2010

    Rosemary44 wrote: Soybean oil and soy lecithin has to go through processing that leaves pesticides and a component of Drano behind.  They can't get it all out.  So it's all according to how much Drano we like in our vitamins. 

    Reference? 

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  • bjbehn
    bjbehn Member Posts: 1
    edited October 2012

    I have read that CoQ 10 in soy oil is aborbed much better...check out article and see if it gives you the answer you are looking for.  www.total-health-magazine.com article 'Is Ubiquinol all it's Cracked Up to Be.'  Hope this helps you.

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  • Blessings2011
    Blessings2011 Member Posts: 4,276
    edited October 2012

    I am 100% ER+, and am taking Anastrozole.

    My MO told me to stay away from things like soy milk, but if soy were a small ingredient listed WAY down on the list, it would be o.k. in tiny amounts.

    I am on a medically-supervised weight loss plan where the products contain soy protein isolates and soy lecithin. The MO refers almost all her overweight patients to this program, saying the benefits far outweigh the risk.

    She's young, energetic, tremendously respected in her field, a diligent researcher, and the Chief of Oncology at the hospital. I trust her judgement.

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  • rosyFL
    rosyFL Member Posts: 101
    edited October 2012

    It seems just about everything has some kind of soy in it these days, and it's totally unecessary.  How do we get the vitamin companies to pay attention to this?  There are other things that can be used.  I called one of the vitamin companies, (that is actually part of Pfizer Pharmaceuticals) about their new Omega 3 soft gel to ask them if there was soy in the product because it did not say anything on the lable, and they said yes.  Also soy in vitamins often have other names, so you have to be very careful, it should specifically say NO SOY.  A pharmaceutical company producing vitamin supplements, I just hate giving big pharma more of my money!

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  • cylkeller
    cylkeller Member Posts: 5
    edited October 2012

    i too wondered about this so I quit taking it.  As to Vit E, I had BIG problems with it, cancer really enjoys it in my body I am ++-

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  • cylkeller
    cylkeller Member Posts: 5
    edited October 2012

    for my omega 3, i use organic black seed oil, you can google for it, no problems ++-

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  • cylkeller
    cylkeller Member Posts: 5
    edited October 2012

    I just wanted to let you know that vit E was very bad for me, I took it only a few weeks and my tumors got HUGE! Quickly, ... I am ++-

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