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  • YoYo44
    YoYo44 Member Posts: 203
    edited August 2009

    Hello Ladies,

    Our August group is getting bigger!  I am glad to be in such good company.  Thank you ladies who are further on in your journey for the reassurance and moral support.  Faith, thanks for making it seem doable and good luck with your new battle.

    I didn't mean to drop out of sight, but this week has been tiring. Chemo went well, it is Taxol weekly so not too harsh (1 down 11 to go).  Love how everything is described as flu-like symptoms.  So doing fine just a little off overall.  My insides are not happy with me but manageable, although I am not in a rush to eat as I can't taste very well and and insides are gurgly.  As I said, not bad in the big scheme. Can't tell when the menopause symptoms will kick in but I can hardly wait! Wink

    1st chemo day was long with delayed blood work so was tired from that and then second day prob just still tired from the stress. Had a friend with me all day, made all the difference. I am still working so trying to get in the hours (I work a lot from home).  But this week has been a crazy week at work and I am still telling people about my situation too (I was seemingly fine before I went on vacation 2 weeks ago). Once I tell all the immediate people (still a long list) that part will be easier. I found a wig for now, not sure if it is good or not, still deciding.  But going in for a haircut today.  I have shoulder length blonde hair that I love to hate so it is ironic being so emtional at the prospect of losing it.  Go figure. Everyday I start off a litle sad then I pick up and get into my positive groove and at the end of the day  I am tired and sad again. As I tell everyone, it's a big mental battle and at the end of this I will be the greatest glass-half-full person there is!  Smile.

    Jenn-hope your sleeping improves.  I don't sleep as well anymore so I try to go bed earlier since when I wake up is when I am up now, can get back to sleep. There is a lot to worry about.

    MKK-I hope you start feeling a bit better.  Hang in there. I cannot imagine with the kids how you are hangining in.  I have one son (7 yrs) and we told him about the bug inside me and the medicine that will make me sick and lose my hair. He doesn't like the bald thing and he is a little out of sorts with the news but overall ok with it.  Knows about the germs and hand washing from sick grand parents and shockingly had heard of breast cancer on TV.

    Manue-Sorry to hear about your situation with your mom. You must be so sad.  Your boys sound like they are as curious as my son.  Funny guys.

    Linda-Hang in there.  You have already been through a lot and you can make it fine.  We have this lot of ladies to keep us all going.  Everyone here has the same goal and we are all living parts of the same story so it is reassuring to know we are not alone. I liken the avoidance of thinking of these things as  a little of whistling in then dark.  As soon as my mind strays to something depressing or scary I give my self a shake and try to go somewhere else.  It has nothing to do with being positive or brave, just know that I don't want to end up in that hole and need to keep out of it. The worrying and waiting is the worst!

    Donna-glad it went well.  I know what you mean about the shedding.  I lose a lot of hair too normally so have wondered...

    Take care everyone and I hope you are able to have a good if not wonderful weekend.  All you working ladies, build up your reserves and we'll go another week!  Hugs to all!!

  • buccaneersdj
    buccaneersdj Member Posts: 241
    edited August 2009

    Thank God it's the weekend a much needed 2 day break from the docs!!! Everyone enjoy!

  • jenn3
    jenn3 Member Posts: 3,316
    edited August 2009

    Faith - thank you for the positive words of encouragement - sorry to hear to are on this journey again.

    YoYo - sounds like you had a long first day, but glad you made it through okay. 

    I second Donna's statement - the weekend is here - everyone enjoy!!!!!

  • Karen09
    Karen09 Member Posts: 320
    edited August 2009

    Hey ladies!  Wow!  The group is sure growing fast!  Welcome to all the new people! 

    I went to my "chemo teaching" yesterday.  It was a bit emotional because all the staff remembered me from my being there with my mom a couple years ago.  They are all really good there.  They told me that I have to go to the hospital for my first Neulasta shot and that since it's a Saturday the day after my chemo, I'll have to go to the ER for it.  Fun.  Also told me a lot of people change to Sensodyne toothpaste after treatments start so I bought some just in case.  They also told me to set my alarm for the middle of the night so I can get up to pee.

    I hope you are all doing as well as possible!

  • Kim09
    Kim09 Member Posts: 100
    edited August 2009

    Hi everybody,

    Well the port operation went well on Thursday and the surgeon even put in the needle that the would use for the chemo treatment the next day.  When I went in for the chemo on Firday and mentioned that my port was just put in the day before they said they couldn't stick it with a needle for at least two weeks.  Once I told then that the surgeon had already put one in they said they could use it.  No way was I having them stick my arm after getting the port.  Just 3 more treatments to go.  So far I have not had a major problem with nasua.  At the first sign I take my Prochlorper (generic for Compazine) like the nurse said.

    Krisitn09 - If you do go looking for a wig again I found that taking a friend along can help make it a more fun experience. 

    Jenn3 - I know what you mean about having a normal day feeling.  How long have you lived in New Orleans.  I lived there from 80--87 and went to UNO.

  • gillyone
    gillyone Member Posts: 1,727
    edited August 2009

    yeah - ports rule!

  • YoYo44
    YoYo44 Member Posts: 203
    edited August 2009

    When I went in last Wednesday for my first treatment the nurse said I had bad veins-and I have 11 more taxol to go and who knows what else.  So silly me (I always want to know and always ask-although sometimes I don't like what I hear-I am a scientist too) I said, do you think I will need a port at some time and she said yes.  Ick!  I try to be really tough and I have a high pain tolerance and am usually well informed but I am really squeamish. So I will just put it out of my mind now until the happy moment they tell me they will install it.Undecided

    Just back from my haircut and going back to my happy denial place.  Good evening ladies!

  • gillyone
    gillyone Member Posts: 1,727
    edited August 2009

    yoyo - go for the port. I have terrible veins. Rarely do they get it in first time and I end up black and blue. They used my port for the first time for tx last week and I never felt a thing. I believe it is a plus.

  • Kim09
    Kim09 Member Posts: 100
    edited August 2009

    yoyo - I agree with Gillyone.  Get the port.  I had a little soreness in the neck for a day but that was all.

  • tdoehne
    tdoehne Member Posts: 30
    edited August 2009

    Hi Ladies,

    Sorry it has been a few days since checking in with you. I have had a few emotional days and have had a hard time dealing lately. As Chemotherapy approaches I just can't seem to turn my mind off, no sleep, etc. Jenn, thank you for replying about the pain under the arm. I begin PT on Tuesday which should help with my mobility which has been slow to come back after surgery. I am so afraid of the Chemo and the side effects. You hear so many stories.....everyone is different I know, can't help the fear !!! My husband has been fantastic, I couldn't ask for anyone better to be by my side right now, any suggestions !???! Thanks, Tara.

  • buccaneersdj
    buccaneersdj Member Posts: 241
    edited August 2009

    Tara, Try taking some Benedryl at bedtime it has worked on me up until tonight. Are you sleeping with your arm elevated that really helps my arm pain, put it up on pillows when I am busy roaming around all day I notice my arm feels full and huge but is the same size as the other one, I sit on the sofa and put it up on pillows for alittle bit and it seems to help.  I am having the worst lower back and thigh pain ever. I am assuming it is from the Neulasta shot I got on Friday. I have tried Advil but no relief! I think the chemo was fine TAC, I felt pretty good until today, my lower back feels like I'm in labor and my thighs feel like really bad monthly cramps, any suggestions from anyone???

  • 2acdmom
    2acdmom Member Posts: 24
    edited August 2009

    Tara, fear is perfectly natural.  I remember that I was absolutely terrified at the thought of chemo.  It didn't help that a friend of mine who had already gone through it and who suffered from every possible side effect spent about an hour one day describing her experience to me...Frown  Have you tried meditation?  Also, exercise will help anxiety.  The center where I treat has a therapist available for cancer patients and I took full advantage of her services as well.

    I also took an anti-anxiety medication (Ativan) during that period, which helped me tremendously.  I would have preferred not to take it, but I was having a hard time keeping it together, and the Ativan made a big difference.

    It is very difficult to turn your mind off, I know.  You really do have to take it one moment at a time.  It got to the point where every time I started thinking some horrible chemo or cancer thought, I would sternly tell myself "don't think about that" and force myself to think about something else.

    Stay busy, do fun things with your family, and don't be afraid to ask for help.

  • jenn3
    jenn3 Member Posts: 3,316
    edited August 2009

    Good morning - I spent yesterday running errands and away from the house.  My DH is finally finishing the bathroom renovations I've been asking to be done for the last 3 years.  Then I ran over to my mom's house because her guest room ceiling fell in after a rain storm, it seems that new roof she has must be leaking......... While I was there my sister mentioned she had not seen the movie Hangover and really wanted to see it.  I had already seen it once, but decided a good laugh should never be passed up.  This morning I'm going to see G-Force with my cousin and her kids (and my godchild).  I'm keeping busy..................

    Donna - I've heard and read about severe pain after the Neulasta shot.  Call the on-call doctor and see if they can suggest or call you in stronger medication.  I'm sorry you're hurting so bad. 

    Tara - My mind races like crazy at night - I do the benadryl trick. However, when I ran into the chemo nurse the other day while I was getting various test done she did say I should mention it to the doctor when I see him and he will more than likely give me something for anxiety.  Am I right in guessing the picture is your dog? 

    YoYo - like everyone said, go for the port.  I haven't used it yet, but from what I read it works wonderfully.

    Kim09 - so glad to hear you're doing well. My oldest daughter went to UNO too!  I've lived in New Orleans my whole life (43 yrs) and I have to say I am a NOLA girl.  As crazy as things are and have been, I truly love it here.

    Karen09- The ER for the Neulasta shot - ugh!!!  Since I haven't started anything yet and not sure how the shot works other than what I've read is it something they can let you do yourself at home so you don't have to go to the ER?

    Gill - How is today doing for you?

    Have a wonderful day everyone - I'll talk to y'all later.

  • tdoehne
    tdoehne Member Posts: 30
    edited August 2009

    Goodmorning Everyone,

    2acdmom- Thank you so much for your advice, last night I did take some Xanax and it certainly help me to sleep much better. I too have everyone telling me about their experience, although, they seem to tell me all the "bad" stuff too. Unfortunately, that stuff seems to linger in my mind and it is all I can think about. I have to turn that off as well and remind myself we are all different and I may not be like them. I will do my best to stay busy :)

    buccaneersdj- Thank you for the advice on my arm, I like to scream sometimes when something touches my arm, it seems to be getting better ever so slowly. My PT starts this Tuesday and I am hoping I begin to see some improvement soon !! The exercises are a killer !! But I know they must be done to improve, I hear that the nerves are trying to reconnect and repair themselves. I am also wondering if the bra and camsole that I am wearing may not be the right one because when I take them off I feel much better, although, I had only a left mastectomy and it feels very strange to go without, any suggestions ?!

    Jenn- Yes, that is my dog Ruby, she is a puggle and she is the best, although a bit stubborn, LOL. I also have a black Lab named Lexi. There are times when they seem to know that I do not feel well and they just sit close by and rest with me. Good therapy for me.

    Take care ladies and I wish you all a wonderful day today. All my best, Tara.

  • YoYo44
    YoYo44 Member Posts: 203
    edited August 2009

    Hi Ladies,

     Thanks for the pep talk about the port. I know I will do it at some point but I will no longer think about it. It is inevitable and as you say "a good thing" (hee hee hee-silly)

    Tara, I haven't had any surgery yet so the chemo and Zoladex are my beginning so I don't have any other reminders but I have the same mental racing and worry.  It will drive you insane.  When I first was certain it was cancer (after much personal research and the intial doctor's referral to the mamogram actually) I mentally went off a cliff for a day.  I couldn't sleep and all I thought about was the possibilities with cancer.  I talked to my self and tried to peel it back to what I was really afraid of and for me it was the unknown.  After that I decided I couldn't go there any more and I try to keep busy, go to bed early so I get some sleep and don't let my mind wander into dangerous territory.  The SE's freak me out too and I am now telling myself thousands have gone there before and will go after so I will too.  And i am not researching it anymore once I have committed. Lots of women have very little SE's-we just don't hear about them. It is like the news, you only hear about the more spectacular. This disease is so much about the mental battle that you have to find your own hot buttons and tools to combat it.  It is all easier said than done but it is so important to fnd a place you can be strong from.  I finally told my mom yesterday that yes I need to stay positive but just her telling me that every day isn't helping me any and she had better quit saying it because it was making me angry!  (think I can blame the zoladex? Innocent)

    The great thing about this forum is that I think everyone undertsands and can sympathise.  For anyone not in this boat this can all seem a little highstrung and dramatic I think but for those of us in the middle of it we all understand and it is real.  Hang in ther and I hope you find some distractions to keep you going.

    I have a practical question that I will ask the nurse about but maybe someone hear has some info too.  What happens if you get a cold on chemo?  What is the concern and what do you do?  My son ( as all kids) gets cold all the time.  Last night he had a high fever again (gets them evey now and again) so I am not sure how/if I can care for him.  I was up for a while and I finally said to my husband you need to take over.  Today he is fine, with some sniffles, which is sometimes what happens.

    We are going to go buy hockey equipment for my son now and off to see Gforce after so that guarantees a few hours of bliss at least for today.

  • gillyone
    gillyone Member Posts: 1,727
    edited August 2009

    hi ladies

    I am a little ahead of most of you as this is day 11 from my first tx. You need to know that once you get started with treatment you fell better in your mind. Whatever SEs you get, you will deal with, but it is such a positive thing to get started.

    I also think we shouldn't get too far ahead of ourselves - just deal with what we have to right now. We can't worry about every little possibility. And we know if we need advice about some SE or other, there are lots of pros on the boards. Stay strong girls!

    I had a little chuckle about "the port" "Use the port" -  it's like "use the force". My online name is a take off of obi-one (spelling?) as a friend's husband took to calling me gilly-one in the ancient days of star wars.

  • tdoehne
    tdoehne Member Posts: 30
    edited August 2009

    Hi Ladies,

    Well, we are approaching the night time, which is usually the worst for me, but today was a pretty good day actually. YoYo thank you so much, I appreciate your advice. This is why I love to come here and read and express my concerns because I feel you all understand so much better than my family and friends what I am feeling and am going through. Sometimes I think my family just wants to see me smile and be like my old self again, which only puts pressure on me. Anyways, will appreciate my good day today and smile at the fact my daughter can't wait to have her birthday party, aah to be a kid again !!!!! Have a great night everyone. Tara.

  • JanetH77
    JanetH77 Member Posts: 32
    edited August 2009

    My first chemo was 7/28 (last Tuesday).  I had no side effects for the first two days, then had some diarrhea on day 3, responded to Imodium.  Also beginning of sore mouth, even though I have been following instructions to help prevent/treat soreness.  Friday, Saturday, and today (days 4-6), the sore mouth has been very uncomfortable.  I've had trouble finding one of the products recommended on my care sheets (Ulcer Ease), but Walgreen's ordered it for me today, will have it tomorrow afternoon.  I really have not experienced much fatigue, either.

    I have a follow-up blood test and appointment with my oncologist tomorrow afternoon.

  • gillyone
    gillyone Member Posts: 1,727
    edited August 2009

    Hello Janet.

    I am day 11 from first tx and today I have a sore mouth. I got some Biotine mouthwash which I have seen recommended on various threads. My care sheet has only suggested a salt water rinse. It will be interesting to see what you use and how effective it is. What kind of  chemo treatment are you on?

  • kristin09
    kristin09 Member Posts: 56
    edited August 2009

    Hi all,

    I am back at work today after 6 weeks off for my two surgeries (lumpectomy & re-excision).  Quick question - are any of you working through chemo?  I am and I'm curious to see how people handle it.  I'm hoping that keeping busy will make it easier.  I'm not looking forward to my 35 minute commute, however.Undecided

  • lindal52809
    lindal52809 Member Posts: 25
    edited August 2009

    Good Morning Everyone,

    I just wanted to say thank you for your replies and all of your posts. It's so comforting to read your stories and have the support of other women actually going through it all. I will try to come on more often as I start on my treatments to share how I am doing with you, because I know you will understand and be here to help when needed.  I'll stop back for sure on the weekend and let you know how my port placement goes.  Have a good day everyone! Wink

  • jenn3
    jenn3 Member Posts: 3,316
    edited August 2009

    Good morning -tomorrow is my first chemo.............. getting a little nervous.  I don't know if this sounds crazy, but I'm not nervous about the chemo, I am more worried about not being able to do things. Question:  What causes the mouth sores?  I'm asking because I've been on methotrexate for 2 years for RH arthritis . Methotrexate is a chemo drug, although I take it in low doses for RH.  I was told to take prescription strength folic acid to avoid mouth sores, which I have never gotten.  Are the sores from dry mouth or depletion of vitamins - or both?  I was going to ask the dr tomorrow, but do any of you know?

    Kristin - I am going to attempt to go back to work in a week or so.  My office is being very flexible and will work with me. I feel like I need my routine back - some type of normal.

    Tara - I know what you mean about family wanting the normal you back.  My family has been great - but I sometimes feel like it's up to me to be as normal as possible to make this easier on them. 

    gill, donna & janet - sorry to hear about the mouth sores and discomfort.  I haven't gotten there yet and don't have suggestions, but will peek around here and see if I can find something.  With that said I do remember seeing something about rinsing your mouth as many times as you can remember during the day with whatever mouthwash or rinse you are using. 

    I hope everyone has a good Monday - talk to y'all later.

  • jenn3
    jenn3 Member Posts: 3,316
    edited August 2009

    Good morning -tomorrow is my first chemo.............. getting a little nervous.  I don't know if this sounds crazy, but I'm not nervous about the chemo, I am more worried about not being able to do things. Question:  What causes the mouth sores?  I'm asking because I've been on methotrexate for 2 years for RH arthritis . Methotrexate is a chemo drug, although I take it in low doses for RH.  I was told to take prescription strength folic acid to avoid mouth sores, which I have never gotten.  Are the sores from dry mouth or depletion of vitamins - or both?  I was going to ask the dr tomorrow, but do any of you know?

    Kristin - I am going to attempt to go back to work in a week or so.  My office is being very flexible and will work with me. I feel like I need my routine back - some type of normal.

    Tara - I know what you mean about family wanting the normal you back.  My family has been great - but I sometimes feel like it's up to me to be as normal as possible to make this easier on them. 

    gill, donna & janet - sorry to hear about the mouth sores and discomfort.  I haven't gotten there yet and don't have suggestions, but will peek around here and see if I can find something.  With that said I do remember seeing something about rinsing your mouth as many times as you can remember during the day with whatever mouthwash or rinse you are using. 

    I hope everyone has a good Monday - talk to y'all later.

  • Karen09
    Karen09 Member Posts: 320
    edited August 2009

    Good luck tomorrow Jenn!  I'll be thinking about you!  I know what you mean - I'm most worried about not being able to do anything too.  I still want to be able to go out a bit and go for walks. 

    Sorry about the sore mouths ladies!  I hope they get better soon.

    To you ladies who have had your nodes taken - I had a partial mast. and lymph node dissection a week and a half ago.  I forgot to ask my surgeon about shaving.  What were you ladies told and what have you been doing?  I've just been leaving it alone on that side but I would like to get ride of it if I can soon. 

  • tdoehne
    tdoehne Member Posts: 30
    edited August 2009

    Hi Ladies,

    How is everyone doing today?

    Karen- I had a Left mastecomy with with my lymph nodes removed and was told to not shave, especially since we are in the summertime. If you should perspire it would be like putting salt water in a wound which would cause it to burn, OUCH !!!  The sad thing is I want to shave so badly, it is driving me crazy.

    Ladies- My dentist told me to get Biotene or Oasis mouthwash to rinse with which you can get at a Target or a Walmart. If that does not work, check with your Onc. for a Rx. I won't start Chemo until next Monday, but I am trying so hard to get everything ready to go. I am quite sure I will miss something !! Besides I am so scared, hoping to feel better once I get started and feel like I am doing something to fight this !!

    Thanks again, good to hear from all of you, have a good day. Tara.

  • Karen09
    Karen09 Member Posts: 320
    edited August 2009

    Thanks Tara.  I'll leave them alone then.  I really want to shave but if it's going to hurt if I sweat - no thanks.  lol! 

  • YoYo44
    YoYo44 Member Posts: 203
    edited August 2009

    Hi ladies,

    Good luck tomorrow Jenn.  I hope it goes smoothly.

    Kristin-I am still working but my job is based from home and I spend a lot of time at our head office too.  So I am lucky that way.  My employer is being very accomodating and we are taking a wait and see approach.  But I am also currently on a pretty tame chemo (12 x Taxol).  I find the mental part more challenging for now. I am supposed to be focused on budget and scheduling and I am finally able to start focussing after last week.

    I do my second chemo this Thursday and I am wondering how that will be.  Was happy to get the first under way and will be happy to have the seond over with as well.

    All the best everyone!

  • buccaneersdj
    buccaneersdj Member Posts: 241
    edited August 2009

    Hi ladies, Day 5 after chemo has been much, much better than da 3 and 4. So far, day 1=perfect no problems, day 2= a little nausea & get Neulasta shot, day 3= bad leg and lower back pains, day 4= more bad leg and back pains (I cuddled up to a heating pad all day, that helped), day 5= very little nausea in the morning and great the rest of the day!!! I think I hate Neulasta!  I found out today I will get my port on the 13 th, just in time for my second chemo.

     Jenn- Let us know how you do! Hugs!!!

  • PauldingMom
    PauldingMom Member Posts: 927
    edited August 2009

    Hi Ladies, I'm just popping in to say hello and wish you all the best during your journey. Come on over and check out the information in the "Starting Chemo in July" topic. My mother and I are both under Chemo. treatment starting in July. There are some great programs out there that I mention in the opening post there. You really need to check them out. I think everyone's favorite is Look Good Feel Better. Also recommend Hevenly Hats.org, and ChemoAngles.com 

    You sound like a great group. It is kind of a custom to come up with a name for your group. So get busy with some witty ideas. We are the July Jedi Jug-a-nauts AKA Triple J's. I love my ladies but hate that we all have to be going through this.

    Hang Tough and remembe Smile and Laugh, you CAN do this. 

  • jenn3
    jenn3 Member Posts: 3,316
    edited August 2009

    Today is my first day of chemo - heading out in a few minutes.  I'll let y'all know how it goes when I get back later today. 

    Pauldingmom - thanks for popping over and giving support. - I've peeked in onyour thread a few times, you have a lot of information and a wonderful group.  Oh ......... and love your humor.  Sorry you have to go through this with your mom. 

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