July 2009 rads group
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Leah, you are so right about keeping up with the skin care stuff. I finished my boosts yesterday and will start with the Med Oncologist this week. My Radiation Oncologist told me Friday to use lots of moisturizer for the next year as the oil glands are the last to come back. I do have some dry pink tight skin under the armpit (they have not radiated there for over a week now) I have been using my favorite creams mixed with Nutrogena sesame oil and it seems to be healing in leaps and bounds every day. I am fair skinned, however, my skin held up pretty well, no blisters or weeping. I only used aloe and cortisone morning and evening while having full treatments and then switched to my own recipe for the areas not being radiated during boosts.
We will see what the Med Onc has me doing to keep me occupied. So far he ordered a bone scan and blood tests for a baseline and I did those tests 2 weeks ago. I know he was talking about Arimidex and aspirin, but for some reason I don't think that I will be let off that easy. We will see what he has in store for me.
I feel very fortunate that it was caught early and that I will be watched very closely for a while. The foster dog in my picture put her little pointy nose into my breast as I was parking the car one day. She froze in a pointing posture. You could not feel nor see any lump, no symptoms. The mammogram tech said the dog could not have smelled it as it was near the chest wall. (The surgeon had taken a piece of skin to make sure that the skin was not involved so it had to be close to the skin as well) It was in a shallow part of the breast near the edge. I had to wait after the first mammogram for 6 mo because there was a suspicious calcification, because I had no baseline film to compare. Sure enough after 6 mo, it had changed and they went in to get it. I saved little Breezy the Chihuahua from the Euthansia list at the local shelter and she saved me from the "E" list in return. She was placed in a wonderful forever home. Maybe I should have kept her?
Take care,
Suzanne
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Canine Treasures - What a wonderful story about Breezy. I am a dog lover and we have two rescue dogs that we adopted. We have a border collie mix, Zoey and a beagle, Heidi. During my chemotherapy both dogs never left my side. On one particularly difficult night I was lying in bed just trying to "be".... the nausea was so bad and I knew that if I moved I would lose it. Heidi crawled up on the bed and cuddled right next to me. She put her nose in my neck and started breathing slowly and smoothly. It helped to calm me down and I drifted off to sleep. She stayed with me the whole night. Neither one of us moving. Animals are incredible. They can certainly sense things in a way that people can't. Thanks for your story!
The rads machine at my facilty was fixed today. It was down all day yesterday so I missed a treatment. Oh well ... stuff happens!
Have a good day everyone!
Nancy
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Hi Ladies,
I haven't been on in a while and I've missed touching base and seeing how people are doing.
I had my last treatment yesterday - wooohooo. My treatments were for 16 sessions, the 3 week standard in Ont. and were pretty uneventful. The staff at the hospital were amazing and made the experience a whole lot more "pleasurable" than it could have been. I have some redness, some rash-like itchy areas and have had just a couple of blisters. My rad onc says that's the bonus of being an A-cup. My poor little nipple is very sore and tender and is about 2x the size of the other, but it's manageable. The rad nurse says the redness and tenderness may get worse over the next 2 weeks, but I feel so much better just knowing that this part is over. The nurse recommended saline soaked gauze on the red and itchy areas to cool it down, especially in the hot weather. I found a can of spray saline (called wound wash) that is really gentle and is easier to apply than the bottled. It also does not expire (lose the sterility) like the bottled type does. I'm not sure if anyone else has been told about this, but maybe it will help. I am really tired but have taken off the next few weeks of work and will see how I feel before returning.
Somehow I can't get my head wrapped around saying "I had Breast cancer" vs "I have Breast Cancer" - kind of a weird feeling since it has been something that has been hanging around for so long. . My only concern now is that my rad onc says that nobody has to see me for follow up or anything. That for me just feels wrong. It feels like everything has been dropped and I'm left on my own. I know that my case isn't seen as "Urgent or life-threatening", but I'm wondering if anyone else has had the experience of just being dropped by the medical system. My treatment is in Mississauga, Ont. and up until now has been amazing. Any suggestions?
I'm glad to hear that so many are doing so well. Stick with it - there's hope yet.
Be well - Peace
Lynn
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Suzanne....that picture could be of my Chihuahua Sammy. I never told anyone this before, but after my diagnostic mammogram Sam and our other dog Max came up and were sniffing me nonstop. I pushed them away and my husband said that maybe they could smell cancer. I was terribly hurt by even the suggestion and thought that my husband was being totally insensitive to my feelings of just being called back for a second mammogram But sure enough, it was cancer. After I had my surgery, they stopped sniffing but have not left my side through this whole ordeal. I didnt say anything to anyone because I thought they would think I was crazy. Now I believe that they knew something was wrong.
Leah...my other dog is a Canaan. Not to many in this country but are herding dogs from Israel.
Deb
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So glad I have this place to go to today. I was all set to leave for my 18th of 30 zaps this morning when the phone rang. The machine is down at my treatment center today, and my appointment is cancelled. I know it is a small thing in light of all that has happened over the last few months, but it just reminded me again of how so much of this is not in my control. I am so focussed on finishing, it's hard to have anything get in the way. Oh well, it will happen sooner rather than later now. Thanks to you all for being here, and I hope everyone is doing well..
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FeyLynn, congratulations on finishing! Boy do I look forward to that. I see that you're ER+/PR+ so are you going on any type of hormonal therapy? I'm also surprised that you were told no follow-up, but could the rad onc mean no follow-up with him? Maybe a good idea to call your med onc and see what he says.
Deb, I had never heard of a Canaan dog until your post, so I looked it up online and saw some pictures. Wow, beautiful dog!
Susan, I know what you mean about the frustration. Tomorrow is a Jewish fast day called Tisha B'Av, a day of mourning for tragedies, and there are no treatments. On the one hand, I'm glad my hsuband doesn't have to drive me in the heat while he's fasting (obviously I'm not allowed to fast!) but on the other hand, I finish a day later.
Today was day #17 out of 25, so I have all of next week plus 3 days of the following week. It feels like it will be forever, and that I've been doiing this forever. This has been the most stressful part for me, even though physically it's been the easiest. Logic has nothing to do with it.
Leah
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I also had #17 out of 25 today. Next Monday is a holiday here so the Cancer Centre will be closed and that puts my final tx off for a day.....I think I'll be finished on Aug. 11. So far everything is going ok...my skin is pink, I have tightness in my arm in the surgery area and I seem to need a lot of naps. Good luck everyone as we get close to the finish line. I will be starting either Arimidex or Tamoxifen when this is over.
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hrf, I lived in Toronto for 6 years, so I still remember the first Monday in August, a holiday just because. Heck, I'll take holidays for any reason you give me!
Also finishing the 11th. It can't come fast eenough for me.
Leah
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Today was my 17th also. Only 18 to go. Halfway!!! Leah, I know what you mean. I feel like this has taken over my life and all my plans need to be around the treatment. So looking forward to the end of rads. Sometimes it hits me that this will always be a concern for the rest of my life. Anyway, is anyone having a problem with dizziness or lightheadness? My rad onc today told me that she is 100% positive that it is not from the rad treatment. Wants me to see my primary physician.
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I am new to this site--I have had double mastectomies iwth implants and Adriamycin/Cytoxin and taxol--all done with chemo--did ok--my cancer was dx early--<1 cm tumor but multifocol--2 out of 30 nodes--went for the aggressive treatment--now the rads are up to me--I am in a "gray zone"-- my margin was 1-1.5 mm ( i guess they like 2mm margin although my surgeon feels they are clear--the pathologist said they looked clear but still it is that margin--and even with a small tumor I had 2 positive nodes-- i will be on hormonal therapy too-- I feel l should do everything possible ( i have been aggressive so far) but the risks of rads are there-- If i was told i had to do it because of tumor size or more node involvement then I would have no problem but since iit is my choice I am freaking out --the implants can become a problem--but I guess recurrance is a bigger problem--just wondered how everyone is doing--seems like most of you had lumpectomies not mastectomies so my situation may be different--any input would be great-- Thanks Lolly
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Leah_S: Definitely ask for a prescription for Biafine if they will write you one. I have used it 3x/day since day one and I have had minimal problems. My breast is red - sunburned looking, but no major problems at this point. I'm in day 20 of 30 treatments.
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Hi Everyone-
I am going in just a few hours for my 6th treatment. I work 12 hours on night shift and go straight to my treatment. It's only a 30 min. drive each way, but I'm already so exhausted that I had to miss work the other night. The doctor said that it's early for the treatments to be the reason for being so tired. Has anyone else been affected like this so early? Also, he said not to use anything for burn until it happens. I'd really like to avoid that if possible! He did say that an aspirin a day might help. No one told me to stay out of the sun or the pool though. Since I sleep during the day, this probably won't be a problem. Is there anything else I need to know from all of you who have been through this? Maybe I just don't know the right questions to ask!
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Lolly, it's not an easy decision. I also had a mastectomy - single in my case but I'm considering prophylactic on the other side. I had 6 nodes so rads was not a question for me though I would have avoided it if I could have. In a way i'm glad because i don't know what I would have done if I were in a grey zone like you. You have to consider your overall health, your chance of recurrence with and without the rads, even how far away you are from treatment since going every day is not easy. Ask your onc for statistics on recurrence in your situation. Best of luck with whatever you decide.
shemei, thanks for the suggestion about the Biafine. So far the aloe vera has been working but who knows if that will continue? Biafine is non-prescription here, but I think if I get a prescription I can get it through my HMO for much cheaper.
lynniejojo, the fatigue starts when it starts. SE's are individual. It wouldn't surprise me if working a night shift brings the fatigue on sooner. I know when I worked a night shift I needed more sleep than on days, so adding rads to the mix would definitely make a difference. I was also told at first not to use anything unless/untill I burned but I spoke to my onc about pure aloe vera and he said he didn't know if it would help but I could try. You have to be careful not to use it for at least 4 hours before a treatment and wash off all residue beforehand. By day 6 my neck (where I didn't realize the rads to supraclavicular nodes reached) was starting to get pink but the rest was fine. I started using the aloe vera there and the pink faded a bit though it's back now. I've had 17 out of 25 treatments and my neck and sternum are a bit pink now but no other skin problems. I'm very fair, have sensitive skin and sunburn easily so it's pretty good. You can tell your onc tht there's anecdotal evidence that the aloe vera will prevent or delay the burns but there is no anecdotal evidence that doing nothing is better.
Going in soon for a nap. Again
Leah
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Getting ready to leave for treatment #20! 8 more to go. July rads are almost done! Finish my last treatment on August 11th. Feeling really blue lately. Can't put my finger on it. Just a bit weepy. My husband surprised me with a getaway to Baltimore, Maryland. We are going to see the Red Sox play the Orioles - I love baseball! Should be fun ... nice to get away. Maybel it will take my mind off things. Sending tender thoughts to all my BC friends.
Warmly,
Nancy
P.S. GO RED SOX!
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Good Morning Ladies (at least it's morning here - lol)
Leah, thanks for your support. I will be calling my Med onc and insist that we at least have a discussion about future treatment. Previously she said that she didn't think I would need to go on Tamoxifan, but was willing to do anything if it put my mind at ease even if it meant ovarian ablation (spelling ?). I am still pre menopausal and don't have the best record when it comes to cancer (have had Non Hod Lymphoma in the past) and am very concerned about recurrence of any cancer.
Lynnie, I agree with Leah, the fatigue starts when it starts. My rad onc said for me to take the time when I needed it. For me, I recognized that it was the emotional impact more than the rads. It something you really need to take into consideration. Take the time when you need it, you need to pamper yourself emotionally and physically through this. I was told to use Glaxal Base cream right from the beginning of Tx to prevent major side effects, it has worked really well because it keeps the skin well moisturized. I used it 2-3x per day before any symptoms and use it more frequently now that I have the redness, itching and minor blisters.
Nancy - have a great time at the game - sounds like a wonderful retreat. What a great Guy.
Lollys - sorry you have to be here. I hope we can help you get the support you need.
Gentle hugs to all.
Lynn
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Nancy...today is day 14 for me and I am tired and very weepy. The tech said today that this is about the time that the fatigue sets in and they are to blame for it. I am a little pink but just getting a bit of the blues and I am not even half way there. Well....off to work.
Deb
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Hi all--Thanks for your responses--still no insight into what i will do--hope you all are doing ok--just rest when you need to --as they say -this too shall pass--Lolly--will keep you posted--
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Well what a day at the rads facility. Got there for my treatment, got on the table and down went the machine. Missed a treatment on Monday because of a bum machine. So I left and went to get a manicure (what the heck!) Went back and things were running fine. Got back on the table and BOOM - power surge - machine down again! Waited an hour for it to come back up but was successful this time.
MsDebS - the blues go hand in hand with fatigue I guess.
Lollys - Good luck with your decision. It's not easy. I had a mastectomy with immediate reconstruction (DIEP) and I'm now almost through with rads. Pink/red skin and lots of fatigue. The recon is holding up very well. I had a wonderful plastic surgeon. I swear he had magic hands!
My turn for a nap!
xoxo
Nancy -
Had #14 today, lots of energy yesterday but tired today; can't sleep. Have some redness and a little swelling but not bad. going to try to rest a bit. I agree some days it is just hard to get excited, but this too shall pass! Good day to all. Lookign forward to the weekend, with no long drives and no treatments. Hopefully go to local lighthouse festival and farmer market, hope others have some fun plans.
Sweet dreams
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Well, today was number 14 out of 16 for me! I will be finished on Tuesday! Even though I will be done with the radiation part of this journey, I still have Herceptin! My skin is holding up pretty well, just a little pink and a little tight around the scarline. I have developed mild LE, so I am being referred to the LE clinic at the hospital. I'm starting to get a little tired now. Fatigue is starting to set in. My onc told me to just give into it, and have nap. Sounds like a great idea!
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I'm also doing ok physically ...18 down and 7 to go. I'm emotional and find myself napping frequently. Today I woke up with what appears to be a cold ... runny nose, scratchy throat,.. I hope this goes away quickly.
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ONLY 1 MORE TO GO. I am so happy to be done tomorrow. I am a very dark pink, itchy and tender where ever it is pink. Right now, it doesn't matter how much lotion I put it, my skin drinks it in and is still dry.
One thing cancer has done for me is my modesty isn't there now. I am a widow, but I have never went topless before in my life. Now I put the lotion on and go without anything until it soaks in. I will be glad when the next two weeks are over. The tech said it will take two more weeks for my skin to get better. I wonder if it gets a little worse before it starts to get better? I had a single mastectomy with no reconstruction. The scar is a deep purple red. Looking down, it is hard to imagine it goes back to normal. I know it does in time, but it is just hard to imagine.
CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL WHO ARE FINISHING THIS WEEK OR EVEN GETTING CLOSE TO IT!!!
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25 treatments down, 8 to go - and my last zap to the supraclavical area was today so it feels good to say that part of it is finished. I have to switch machines and tech for my last five boost treatments.
Skin was doing great - really only started showing significant redness at the end of last week - but yesterday I noticed peeling in the armpit and under the breast, and I am sore just behind my armpit. We are having a record-breaking heatwave this week, and I don't have AC at home so spend lots of the afternoon and evening sweating like a pig - wonder if that is contributing to the peeling? Oh well at least the treatment center is air conditioned, and I really don't mind laying there on the table for 15 cool minutes!
Tricia
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To anyone: The women on this thread have lots of experience behind them so I am asking them to help me. I am 72 years old with a bad back and I find it difficult to extend my arms above my head without pain. I am scheduled for my rad. simulation on Aug 4 and I am very worried how can I get through the time required with the pain in my back and arms. Thanks to all who have helped me get through all I have gone through to get to radiation. Such as, steriotactic biopsy, then wire placement, then nipple shots for SNB and then my lump surgery on June 30. I have been able to get through these things with the help of the many contributors of this site. Thanks. Cathey from Indiana
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Hi Cathey ... sorry you have to go through this. I don't think I have a good answer for you but I'll tell you what I do ... I have a disk problem in my back so I ask for pillows under my knees. Is there anything that you do that makes it easier for you to lift your arms. The machine I'm on has rests for my arms so once I get my arms back, it is easier to rest them. The rads themselves don'e take long. I get 5 zaps, none of which exceed 25 seconds. It seems there are things they can do to adjust the table to make me more comfortable......hope your doc and technicians are able to help you to make this doable and pain free. Helen
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Cathey, the facility I use has me raise only the arm on the treatment side; the other arm rests on my waist. Ask the techs if this is possible, since it might be easier on your back to have only one arm raised. By the way, my arm is not straight up but only part way.
Leah
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21 down and 7 to go!
Cathey - the pillow beneath the knees helps a little bit. Like Helen said, the zaps don't take too long so once you're settled it doesn't last too long. I have a form that I rest my arms in and that helps.
The weekend is finally here! Going to Baltimore, MD - Camden Yards - with hubby! Looking forward to getting away!
Happy weekend to my BC friends!
Nancy
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Got #21 done today....13 to go! I've experienced no side effects other than some uncomfortable pinkish hue that started this week. Doc called in silvadene and it seems to be helping some. Had a bone scan and ct this week. I'm participating in a clinical study for 3 years is why I had to have them at this time. I get so tired of driving back and forth. After 9 months it still seems surreal sometimes.
Have a great weekend Sissies and enjoy a break from the zapping.
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Has anyone had a problem with muscle spasms? I dont think its the radiation, but the position during radiation (being held too long) I have now missed 3 days of rads and dont think I will able to take more for a few more days. Most painful, from neck, shoulder and down arm.The Rad DR put me on darvocet and flexeril, which means I am pretty useless for anything. But after being on these meds and using hot/cold as instructed, I would think after 4 days I should feel some relief, but Not yet. Let me know if anyone has had this problem??? Thanks
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03132W When you go for simulation explain your concerns and I think they will do everything . they can to help you through this. I'm 70 . I just had treatment #22. When i started I had doubts mainly because of my age but I'm doing it and doing ok.
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