Tumeric
Is this safe to take with Tamoxifen? I know it is not advisable with chemo. Thanks ladies!
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I've read a bit about it and haven't come across anything that says it's not advised with tamoxifen. I'm on tamoxifen and my Onc told me to take it for joint pain.
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I take it ... 25 mg 2 x a day. I am on Tamoxifen. I also took it during my chemo too.
Jennifer
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I am on Tamox and take Tumeric for arthritis, my oncs are aware and did not say not to.
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Tumeric helps relieve my concrete bowels..LOL.
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Hello,
The Femara bone and muscle pain is really getting to me and I was thinking of trying tumeric, but wonder if anyone has an iced tea tumeric recipe they would be kind enough to share?
Thank you!
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How good is grocery store tumeric? I bought a 1 lb bag of it for $3.99. Tastes like heck (bitter and odd tasting) on its own, but mixed with hot chili sauce its tolerable in the right foods. If its any good, I will buy some gelatin capsules and capsule it for my wife.
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I like to stick with Penzeys Spice. They have a website and all spices are fresh and very, very good quality.
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I take it ! And am on Tamoxifen. My onc said it was not "contra-idicated". I also use it in food, but I've found supplements are the best way for me. I kept forgetting to use it in cooking!
Spring.
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Does anyone have a suggested daily dosage for tumeric?
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I am trying to understand the benefit of Turmeric versus Curcumin - - or is it just a dosing issue?
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Just a word of advice about turmeric: It enhances the production of bile, which is bad if you have gall bladder troubles or gallstones.
4bethann: I started taking Omega 3 capsules (by Health Balance available at Costco -- EPA 400 and DHA 200). I take 3 a day and, within a week my muscles and joint pains -- mainly in my hands -- went away. Not saying it will work for everyone, but I tried a few other things, and this is what worked for me. I do have a gallstone and so have avoided turmeric -- sure don't want to bring on a gallbladder attack -- they hurt!
Linda
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Hmmm... this is so confusing regarding Tumeric.
http://curezone.com/blogs/fm.asp?i=980128
here is the gall stone warning. http://www.vegetarian-nutrition.info/herbs/turmeric.php
http://www.mothernature.com/Library/Bookshelf/Books/54/15.cfm
http://www.bodyandfitness.com/Information/Health/gallstones.htm
http://herbalmedicine.suite101.com/article.cfm/natural_treatment_for_gallstones
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This is the turmeric I take. 2 a day. One with lunch, one with dinner. ONC knows and said it's okay.
NSI Turmeric Extract Curcumin C3 Complex® with Bioperine® -- 1160 mg - 120 Capsules
Item No. 835003004423
Supplement Facts
Serving Size: 2 Capsules
Servings per Container: 60
Amount Per Serving % Daily Value
Turmeric Extract (Curcuma longa)(standardized to 95% curcuminoids)(rhizome)(curcumin C3 Complex®) 1160 mg *
Providing *
Curcumin 1100 mg *
Black pepper extract (piper nigrum)(standardized to 95% peperine)(fruit)(Bioperine®) 5 mg *
*Daily value not established.
Other Ingredients: Kosher gelatin (capsule), rice flour and magnesium stearate. -
This is a quote from the book Anticancer, by David Servan-Schreiber, Md, PhD.
Pg. 121 "Turmeric is the most powerful natural antiinflammatory identified today. It also helps stimulate apoptosis in cancer cells and inhibit angiogenesis...
To be assimilated by the body, turmeric must be mixed with black pepper (not simply with peppers). Ideally, it must also be dissolved in oil (olive, canola, or linseed oil, preferably).
Recommendations for use: Mix 1/4 teaspoon of turmeric powder with 1/2 teaspoon of olive oil and a generous pinch of black pepper. Add to vegetables, soups, and salad dressings. A few drops of agave nectar can remove the slightly bitter taste."
Pg. 105 "If it is not mixed with pepper...turmeric does not pass the intestinal barrier."
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Crap. I remember reading that book and taking note on Dr. S-S's thing. Hmm, I have to figure out how to incorporate pepper and oil during my lunch and dinner supplement!
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Damn, I've been taking it for about a month now, with not much difference in the joint pain, but I stayed on it because it's supposed to be so beneficial in fighting cancer. So maybe it hasn't been doing a thing for me? Now I will try it with black pepper and olive oil mixed in, and then maybe it will help my joint pain and hopefully in preventing reoccurrance too!
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This brand comes with the patented pepper right in the capsule to maximize absorption.
http://www.lef.org/Vitamins-Supplements/Item00912/Super-Curcumin-with-Bioperine.html
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I take it also. This is the brand I take which also has the bioperine (pepper).
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Oh good, mine has bioperine too. I didn't know Bioperine = pepper!!!!
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Gitane, thanks for posting the pepper comment. I'd never heard that.
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Two questions for you ladies about curcumin:
1) How long did you take it before you noticed any difference (if at all)?
2) Any negative/noticeable side effects?
My questions are independent of whether or not you taking Tamoxifen. Thanks!
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I had been following the recommendation from "Anticancer" from Dr. Servan-Schreiber and using turmeric in my diet since my diagnosis 4 months ago with no ill effects or noticable differences. Recently after reading posts and articles referencing taking it in capsule form I thought I'd give that a try, since I could take more in a capsule than I could stand in my food. And of course, more = better, right? Within a few days I had horrendous diarrhea and I really think it was due to the turmeric capsules, even though I only took 1 or 2 a day. I'm now back to just using it in food whereever I can - salad dressing, spaghetti, egg white quiche and refried beans and soup is where I'm most able to work it in.
I really recommend both Anticancer by David Servan-Schreiber and Foods to Fight Cancer by Richard Beliveau. Foods to Fight Cancer has a whole chapter on turmeric.
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We were talking earlier about how the pepper or the bioperine helps get the turmeric into our bodies (past the intestinal barrier). I happened to see this article today. It says that there are "enteric coated" turmeric supplements that are the most bioavailable. I wonder if the pepper/bioperine does the same thing as coating?
"If you wanted to take resveratrol or turmeric for cancer prevention, the supplement that you choose must include an enteric coating to protect the nutrients from stomach acid. Both of the compounds are quickly changed into inactive substances that the body does not recognize, if they are allowed to interact with stomach acid. ... Researchers commonly refer to this phenomenon as low bioavailability."
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I also take Tumeric- Curcuma longa Rhizome root- 395 mg per cap. by Eclectic Institute to prevent recurrence and for joint pain and stiffness in my hands that I assume is from Arimidex. I think it helps; I was not aware of a lack of bioavailability and I'll read the article referenced.
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I found this on the internet and thought all who are taking tumeric should be aware of this finding. I posted the link, as well as an excerpt from the article.
http://arthritis.about.com/od/cox2inhibitors/a/inflammation.htm
The latest findings though from Colville-Nash and colleagues indicate that COX-2 is associated with an inflammatory reaction during the early phase of an inflammatory response (at about 2 hours). However later in the inflammatory process a swell of COX-2 exists which has been shown to have anti-inflammatory effects in the studied rats.While the new COX-2 inhibitors and older NSAIDs (nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs) serve to interrupt inflammation early on, it appears they may serve to aggravate inflammation later on. This may also help explain why older NSAIDs, although having anti-inflammatory properties, fall short of stopping disease progression.
The new findings may contribute important concepts towards better use of COX-2 inhibitors and NSAIDs. It may be found that continuous use of these drugs may not be the best application but rather reducing their use at times may enhance their efficacy. It need also be realized that conclusions may not directly apply to humans since the study involved lung inflammation in rats, not joint inflammation in humans. A correlation must be made implementing human clinical trials.
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I'm on Femara - is anyone else? Just wondering. I haven't started taking it, but was planning on it.
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