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  • moborn63
    moborn63 Member Posts: 70
    edited July 2009

    yeah, today was technically the last day of chemo. Since I was in the trial e5103 and was in arm c. I will continue with arm d. So i will only receive astvasin every 3 week until March. I will  have to have 2 weeks of PT for the lympodemia. But other than that I have completed my treatments. Happy Dance

  • brena
    brena Member Posts: 458
    edited July 2009

    moborne63,

    Congratulation on being completed phase 1, the red devil is the worse part of these treatments. Keep moving forward there is a light at the end of this journey. May Avastin be kind to you!

    cheers for you,

  • brena
    brena Member Posts: 458
    edited July 2009

    Helen,

    I too was in the arm A and it is disappointing but as it has been mentioned we are 1/3 of the equation. Without those of us in Arm A there can be no comparison, it is a bummer and very disappointing so reward yourself for completing a milestone in this road of hell. Which zometa trial are you in?

    you do make a difference,

  • brena
    brena Member Posts: 458
    edited July 2009

    Ladies,

    My update, my left elbow is still broke bone is right at the skin and it feels like if I move it to far and it will pop out..of course it will not. It is getting better but seems slowly since it has been 4 weeks and I have another 4 weeks of limits until returning to the Ortho. Although, he did say I can get back on my bike by week 5, shhhh I already got back on it and nobody knows. It sure did feel good but aggravated my elbow and YES I know it is my own fault so I will suck it up. I am managing with one hand but am trying to use my left to keep encouraging the muscles to stay flexible.

    I am on furlough next week so I am going to hook up with some friends and go to the beach for the day and a few lunches and get a few extra things done around the house. I wish my arm was better because I could get even more done, there is always the next furlough.

    I received my hormones and started taking them last Friday, I am so excited about finally getting them. Felt like the unblinding for Avastin all over again, this time I got it. Anyway, I am taking 2mg of Testosterone daily and 20mg of Progesterone daily both in a cream formula. Since I was pushed into Menopause I am not given a week break on the hormone so I take it continuously. It might take about 3 weeks before I start to feel results, still getting the damn hot flashes. So look forward to sleeping better and longer. Along with Prog/Test I was prescribed Estradiol not something I want to tangle with, I definitely have to stay on top of what they are giving me. The Gyno knows I am a BC survivor and still prescribed Estradiol, I was then offered Estriol but declined so I will waite and see how the Progesterone improve my symptoms.

  • kfinnigan
    kfinnigan Member Posts: 1,729
    edited July 2009

    Mary - Hurrah for the first Taxol over!  I was always a zombie with the benadryl!  And like you, I couldn't sleep!  so irritating!  but so much better than the red devil AC!

    Moborn - CONGRATS on the chemo part over and now onto the Avastin monotherapy!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    It is so nice to see us all progressing nicely! 

    Brena, take it easy with that arm please!!  And stay away from geese!  Let us know how you do on the hormones! 

  • TexasRose
    TexasRose Member Posts: 740
    edited July 2009

    A quick check-in. Day 3 of Taxol #1 and still feeling pretty good. A little tired and some minor bone pain, but not too bad. I slept well last night. The clinical trial nurse said she is going to cut the Benadryl in half next time. I don't need that much. So far, it's way better than AC for me!

    Hugs to all!

  • kfinnigan
    kfinnigan Member Posts: 1,729
    edited July 2009

    Mary - oh good news!!

  • foobs
    foobs Member Posts: 110
    edited July 2009

    To all you ladies who are still on A/C:   Taxol is so much easier for most people, not without SE's but better than A/C .  Hang in there!

    TEXAS ROSE  I think I'm about a week behind you.  I had my 3rd Taxol yesterday (Friday afternoons) What day are your tx's? 

    It sounds like you're going to handle this well and I'm told I'm doing fair too.  I think you're younger than me, I'm almost 57 and a Grandmother Laughing.  You look so young and cute! 

    So they cut the steroid in half last time and now this time also cut the Benadryl in half and I felt better last night and feel pretty good this morning.  I hate that steroid so much although I know we have to have it for possible reaction.

    I've even been back down to my studio this week, part time hours!  It makes me feel so normal! I know I couldn't have worked full time or even taken my classes on A/C.  Don't know how you younger women do all you do!

    KFINNIGAN:  I've just latched on to you and your warm positive humor has helped me more than you know.  I'm overjoyed that you're finishing Avastin AUGUST 6!!  I know I'll always remember you as an inspiration that I needed so bad right now.  Did you do Rads?

    My sypmtoms if anyone cares--this is morning after Taxol #3

    Muscle, joint pain in elbows, hips comes and goes.  I had pretty significant pain 3 afternoons last week.  Took 1/2 a Percoset and napped. Nurse says Tylenol but I told her this was Percoset pain!  Hot tub in the evening (tuned down to 100).  Or warm bath with Epsom salt and BUBBLES.

     My butt issue (hemmorhoids INSIDE ouch) immdediately better with RX steroid suppositories and stool softeners every day.

    RBC WBC counts are down, needing more sleep, 2hr nap everyday and sleep all night. but nurse says its to be expected all the way through this.  Try to help it with diet instead of supplements as she thinks they may upset my stomach.  I'm online researching iron rich diets.  I'll post results if I get some good relief.

    Fingernails are ugly, sensitive,  feet peeling but not too sore.  Wearing flip flops all the time and gloves when I paint or garden.  Moisturizer is Eucerin Cream in the big jar (Walmart) thick on hands and feet at night with cotton socks and gloves overnight helps.

    Mouth sores on and off (using Prevention Oncology rinse from Walgreens 6 times a day, soft soft toothbrush).  My appetite seems normal most days, just tender mouth.

    Interesting that my eyes don't feel as "wierd" now.  Still need stronger readers than I used to but they seem to focus better?  One nurse said the Cytoxin and/or steroids seem to effect eyes.  And I could feel my eyes start to 'quiver and blur' with the Cytoxin.  Wierdness, Wierdness.....

     AND I don't know why I chose the name 'foobs'.  Its going to be forever until I get my foobs.....  and I'm told they'll have to be small.  oh well.....

     We're alive and we know the beauty of that like none before!

  • brena
    brena Member Posts: 458
    edited July 2009

    Carolyn,

    Good luck with the walk, go girl!! You can do itSmile. I tried to wish you luck the day before you left but my internet service crapped out, doing it quite frequently lately. You have great weather, and by gosh do not get hurt or hurt anyone else.

    Have you registered for the 2010 BC cruise? if so is your mom going?

    let us know how the walk went,

  • brena
    brena Member Posts: 458
    edited July 2009

    Ladies,

    I consider all of us brave warriors for having the strength to do what we have or about to do in our fight with BC. We have given up so much and are willing to give more to survive, we are true heroes. I would like to tell you there is better days ahead, but don't expect them to be immediately after your completed your treatments. The healing takes time, patience and as much dedication to keeping yourself on the right track to a better health as you put forth in your treatments. Give some  thought on how and what it will take to get you where you want to be, cause only you can make it happen.

    to my heroes,

  • brena
    brena Member Posts: 458
    edited July 2009

    Great news by any standard, the swelling in my radiated breast is decreasing and pain is also decreasing. This has not happened since, well hasn't happened not even during therapy. My therapy was good but only reduced the pain and swelling while going to treatments. I must give the credit to the progesterone it is the only added variable in the last two weeks. I am also starting to feel some of the other good SE not quite where I want to be but am being patient. I guess my mammo might be in the near future, maybe.

    My left elbow is healing, no where near normal but getting better everyday. Went in the pool today and just floated around and listened to music and the sound of birds. What a 15 minutes!

    may u sleep well,

  • TexasRose
    TexasRose Member Posts: 740
    edited July 2009

    Kari- I hope it stays easy but I kind of doubt it. Wink

    Foobs- You are sweet! Thank you. I am 47 and that picture is about a year old. Actually you are ahead of me. I just had my first Taxol this week. My treatment days are Tuesdays. I go for labs on Monday. Hoping my hemoglobin has come up some. I almost missed the first treatment because it was low. They put me on an iron supplement. I am still feeling pretty good. A little bone pain but very minor so far. My butt issues continue unfortunately. Onc prescribed Proctofoam. It has helped a little. My taste buds are pretty much gone. Not the metallic taste from AC. Just no taste. I had a little temporary neuropathy in my feet with the last two AC treatments but so far none with Taxol. My fingernails are fine.

    Brena-  Glad to hear the pain and swelling is decreasing in your radiated breast and your elbow is healing! I spent the day yesterday floating in our pool also. My clinical trial nurse wants me to avoid the sun, but I flat out refused. I am religious about sunscreen, but I told her cancer will take a lot away from me, but it will not take away my summer days in the pool. That is one of my greatest pleasures and I won't give it up. Float! Relax! Enjoy!

    Hope it's a beautiful day for all of us!

    Mary

  • kfinnigan
    kfinnigan Member Posts: 1,729
    edited July 2009

    Good morning beautiful ladies!

    I hadn't checked this thread over the weekend and it looks like there was quite a bit of activity here. 

    foobs, you are sooooooo sweet and I'm very happy you've latched on to me.  I had no idea I made an impression, and a positive one at that!!  Makes me smile!  We have very similar stats I see.  I see you had a lump. and then bi-mast??  My ILC had spread too much and my boobs are too small so they had to take the left breast, which was fine with me!  I'm nervous about the recons. phase, but we'll see how that goes won't we?!  My surgery was July 25, '08 and then DD A/C (4), 12 wkly Taxol, 25 rads, Avastin and Tamoxifen (started Tamox w/rads).  If you want some inspiration, see our posts under the Fitness Forum - the 'Motivation' thread.  I have found I love it their as we really motivate one another and share life stories and see that it gets so much better when chemo & rads end!!!!!!  You will be there before you know it, I promise!  Hang in there!  I am pulling for each and every one of us!

    Brena, I love your posts!!  You are such a special lady!

    Mary, we are the same age! and you are so cute!  I had the SAME issues through Taxol with my hemoglobin, it stayed low the whole time!  I was so tired all the time and legs felt so weak.  My onc inused me with iron two times, but that really upset my stomach and the day there were going to give me blood (taxol #7), I went in and had a high fever and didn't even know it (I was feeling pretty poorly then), and they couldn't do the treatment that day and had to delay for a week, then the following week, my onc changed her mind on the blood.  I'm glad!!

    Well this is interesting (and gross)...remember I got to skip Avastin #16 due to the Swine Flu exposure??  Well my butt issues seemed to improve some during that time, it still hurt some but didn't bleed.  Well after Avastin on the 16th a couple days later blood and OUCH when I go!!  every darn day again.  So it must be the Avastin??!!  I see my onc on Thursday, she's examined my 'butt' (LOL) before and said it was a fissure and not a hemorrhoid.  I sure hope this goes away after I'm done with Avastin!!!!!  Still dealing with the runny nose all day and the little clotty, bloody things that love to form in my left nostril, so gross!

    The tongue issue has finally seemed to improved after Taxol, it took a long time for me.  There was still a circular area on my tongue that still felt like when you burn your tongue.  It used to be my whole tongue during chemo days.  

    I've been dealing with low back/hip pain and a stiff neck since rads/Tamox and have been going to a PT for the hip thing and have been doing special exercises for 2 months for that.  I was just referred to Acupuncture for the neck/back pain to see if that will help.  I thought it was from sleeping on my right side only for so long thru rads, but wondering if its the Tamox.  Our bodies have sure been through a lot haven't they?

    Sorry to ramble on so long...just thought it is good to put all our SE's out there, cause we may have company.

    OK, one more week down, let's make it a GREAT Monday!  I'm thinking of you all! 

    Don't ask for a light load, but rather ask for a strong back.
    - Anonymous 

  • PooTik
    PooTik Member Posts: 4
    edited July 2009

    My last Taxol is on Thursday 7/30 - can't believe it.  I'm on the arm of the trial where I have to continue Avastin for another 8 mths... but I have to have surgery this year, so I'm not going to be able to continue the trial. 

    PORT - I love my port....my surgeon did a fantastic job of inserting it, its tiny and low enough on my chest, its barely visible.  I love her for being so thoughtful in putting it in. Having a port I think makes things a lot easier.

    Good luck to all of you - those who are starting - it will be over sooner than you know it.  For those who are nearing the end - you better go out and celebrate.

  • kfinnigan
    kfinnigan Member Posts: 1,729
    edited July 2009

    PooTik - TOMORROW IS THE DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  YIPPEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • brena
    brena Member Posts: 458
    edited July 2009

    PooTik,

    Glad u were getting the Avastin but sorry to hear you cannot continue. How will u celebrate your last session? maybe a party? a spa treatment? quiet day at the pool? However you celebrate do enjoy!!

     sunshine,

  • foobs
    foobs Member Posts: 110
    edited July 2009

    Poo Tik

    Regarding your decision to not finish Avastin due to surgery I was given an option:  Of course whatever you decide is right because its your decision.

    I won't know if I'm on Avastin until Sept 11.  My last Taxol is end of Sept.  I have to have a Mx at the end of Taxol so I can get started on Rads.  So if I'm on Avastin,we're going to interrupt the Avastin drug one month before my late October surgery,  then resume Avastin one month later.  When she checked with the trial study people, they said I can stay on Avastin as long as I don't interrupt it any longer than 2 months. 

  • carolynf
    carolynf Member Posts: 262
    edited July 2009

    Hi Brena,

    I hope you are feeling better!! The 3day was incredible.  I can't say enough about the stories, the people, the crew and the emotions that were felt.  My team raised $17,800.  The total for Boston was $4 million!!  This was the kick off for the 3day.  So if the rest of the country does as well or more, why haven't we found a cure yet??? Anyways,  my feet were so sore on Monday that I did not go to work.  I had a massage and rested my feet in epsom salt.  I ended up w/4 blisters which is not bad.  There were plenty of stress fractures and people on crutches.  I can say I walked the whole 60 miles and more!  My tent make and me won the tent decorating contest for our area.  She was Lady Bunion and I was Queen Gottablista.  Our tent was Castle Walkalotta.  I am thinking of being a crew member next year.  Last night I had the a BC walk in York for the BC support group which grossed out at $20K.  The money helps w/free massages for cancer patients and other things.  I told the group I could not walk so I just helped w/everything else...

    I am cruising in November w/hubby and kids.  Haven't talked to mom about next years BC cruise.  We had originally planned on going but they changed the dates which messed me up! So I am not sure at this time if we will go or not.  My hubby is on his HD in  Colorado.  They are going to Arizona and then who knows...He comes back and I am off to SD for a softball tournament.  Well, time to get back to work.  Sorry I haven't posted much lately but I do read often! 

    Take care,

    C

  • foobs
    foobs Member Posts: 110
    edited July 2009

    Poo Tik

    I forgot to say CONGRATULATIONS on your last Taxol!!  I can't wait for that day.  My last Taxol is Sept 25.

    Are you on to Rads next?  Then what kind of surgery are you having?

  • foobs
    foobs Member Posts: 110
    edited July 2009

    Kfinnigan

    Hey gal!  Do you remember when your yukky nose issues started?  I'm having them but they didn't start right away.  Of course I'm wondering if I'm on Avastin.

     You asked if I had had a bilat Mx. Not yet.  I've only had a partial mx last April,( to remove the tumor and see how many LN were involved). I'll have right mx end of Oct. and then after healing from rads, I'll have the left prophlactic mx with immediate bilateral DIEP reconstruction, probably September 2010.

  • foobs
    foobs Member Posts: 110
    edited July 2009

    Hi Brenna

    I'm glad to hear you're healing!  How long did it take your radiated side to start getting better after you completed rads?  And what kind of therapy did you have for it?

     You've really been helpful to us all and I appreciate all your posts.

  • kfinnigan
    kfinnigan Member Posts: 1,729
    edited July 2009

    PooTik - TODAY IS THE DAY - Last TAXOL!!!!!!!!!!!  YIPPEE!!!!!! so did you stop the Avastin yet??

    Hi foobs! (you know because of you I call my prosthesis my foob, and my hubby laughs).  I see your updated info there, good job!  Just wondering why are you doing the bi-lat mx?  Was that recommended or did you want that?  I asked about my right boob, but was told by all that it was like a 1% chance of getting bc in that breast....hmmm...  My nose issues, well, I remember getting a bloody nose pretty much after my first A/C & Avastin.  I used to get bloody noses so randomly all the time, would even have blood on my pillow.  But that stopped during Taxol, and then I would have clotty little things (always on left side) and I still have them, although smaller.  Also, the whole time during chemo my septum hurt (is that the thing between your nostrils??).  It still hurts me at night and while on walks, so my DH bought a humidifier for our bedroom after Taxol ended cause my nose issues were just awful.  It hurts at night and outside and I constantly blow my nose!!!!!!!  all darn day!!!!!!  The humidifier helps a lot and I have saline spray my onc suggested to help too.  I noticed when we were in Hawaii, my nurse never hurt!  It was wonderful, and we noticed a big difference with the humidity, how it helped.  Sorry too much info.Embarassed

    Carolyn, loved your stories!

    Hi to everyone else!! 

  • ryjuem
    ryjuem Member Posts: 64
    edited July 2009

    I'm back...again.  I finished Taxol in Dec 08, completed radiation Mar 09, and just finished the Avastin July 2.  I, too, had the annoying nose clotty things and found that when I used the humidifier/vaporizer thing it did help.  In my book, Taxol is the nasty... AC was brutal but Taxol lingers!  I still have that thickness stuff under some of my fingernails and my feet/toes are numb.  My nails are growing and the discoloration is pretty much gone. 

    Did anyone else have other muscle or joint pain after treatment?  Right when I finished the Avastin..one year after I started chemo...I ended up with a painful shoulder...torn rotator cuff and I didn't fall or do anything repetetive (except show up at the onc's office).  After I got that taken care of (cortisone shot) the other shoulder began to hurt.  I'm going to PT and that helps some. 

     I was wondering if there is any research on the taxol or avastin causing tendon deterioration?  I saw a lot related to tamoxifen but not avastin...any thoughts?

  • kfinnigan
    kfinnigan Member Posts: 1,729
    edited July 2009

    Hi ryjuem/Joanne!  Congrats on finishing the Avastin! YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!  I still have lingering Taxol effects as well (last Taxol was 1/15/09).  Fingernails are soft and they flatten as they grow and peel easy, my clinical trial nurse said that was a late Taxol effect.  And I have some numbness in a couple of toes mostly on my left foot...weird

    Ok so yes!  I have the joint/muscle pain!  Finally another person complaining of this!!  Extensive neck muscle stiffness, upper back muscle aches and low back/hip pain since Feb. '09.  I wondered if it was from sleeping on only my right side through rads and starting Tamoxifen at the same time????? I've been xrayed and full body scanned again because of this and both reports said degenerative joints and discs.  I've been working with a PT since April for the hip thing and have been referred to Acupuncture which I start next week.  Hope it helps.  My hip has really been hindering my walking/exercising!  

    My onc keeps asking me "how long have you had this and when did it start?"...she's just not sure what its from.

    So remember some of us were talking about "butt" issues.  Well my onc has scheduled me for a sigmoidoscopy for Sept. 18.  Had to wait for the month after the avastin stops.  So we'll see... 

  • brena
    brena Member Posts: 458
    edited August 2009

    Hi ladies,

    Just received my free Breast Cancer Wellness Magazine and my article plus a photo of me, Carolyn and her great mom (Rita) are in the magazine. Take a look. Teresa talked about, hope you can go next year on the 2010 BC cruise so we can finally meet.

    Click on the link and then go to page 18

    http://www.breastcancerwellness.org/assets/images/archive/BCWSummer2009.pdf

    have a great weekend

  • kfinnigan
    kfinnigan Member Posts: 1,729
    edited August 2009

    Brena, must check that out!

    A smile is a curve that sets everything straight.
      -Anonymous

  • Keryl
    Keryl Member Posts: 230
    edited August 2009

    Hi everyone. Just checking In.  I am doing well and recovery is good, though I still get really, really tired at an instant - sometimes I could fall asleep at the table. I am 5 months out from treatment, but still convinced it is related. I still have my port and wont have exchange until next year since I had chemo and rads..

    Kari and others; I have finally had my nasal issues wind down. I still have some irritable days, but for the most part,it is  moving on. it has taken months though. I was on Arm B for the trial- I dont know if it was the avastin or the taxol, but either way it's the pits - but it works its way out of your system eventually and those side affects move on. My nails recovered pretty quickly.  I still have bruising that lingers...I had my first mammo on my good side. still 2nd guessing what is right to do there.  I am on tamoxifen and faring well; daily hot flashes and gained a few pounds, but nothing critical.  My hair is now about 1.5 inches long, but gray. My kids affectionatley call me bucket head.  

    Today someone approached my at the gym and wanted to know "all about it" as they are unfortunately,  entering our space. It brought a lot back to talk about it. My family  has pretty much moved on, but there is a part of us that never does. 

    I must say that before my diagnosis, I got hives almost everyday for a year. I ignored it and went through tubes of cortisone cream. Well, since my surgery and treatment - no more hives. Can't help but wonder if the hives were a signal of cancer presence.

    Anyone heard of this?(not that it matters now)

  • brena
    brena Member Posts: 458
    edited August 2009

    Keryl,

    Glad you are checking in and letting us know how your doing, so happy to hear your in the recovery phase. It could take a long time so listen to your body, we so have a tendency to ignore those red flags. Not sure about your question on hives, but since you mentioned it I do recall getting persistent acne for one year prior to BC dx. Maybe others have also experienced something similar?

    take care and stay healthy,

  • kfinnigan
    kfinnigan Member Posts: 1,729
    edited August 2009

    Keryl, thanks for reporting in and happy to hear that your nasal issues are winding down.  Haven't heard anything about hives, so can't comment there either.  Buckethead - LOL!!!!!!!!!  I think it was nice that someone at your gym could turn to you for help.  

    My last Avastin is this Thursday!  I was in a weird funk yesterday and got to thinking about and realized it has to do with this week's Avastin.  Am I scared?  Am I relieved?  I teared up some and then I went for a bike ride and told myself I was going to be OK.  

    I wrote to my onc last week about my "butt issues" I'm still having and she said she is referring me to get a sigmoidoscopy about a month after Avastin finishes.  I am scared though about that procedure cause it hurts SOOOO bad when I 'go'.

    My hip has felt a little better actually over the weekend.  Been putting aspercreme on it and it seems to help.  I have my first Acupuncture tomorrow for my stiff neck and low back/hip pain too. 

    Hope everyone has a great day! 

  • Keryl
    Keryl Member Posts: 230
    edited August 2009

    I will be thinking of you on Thursday. Nice to know its the last avaitin,  but undersand the feeling of moving on - actually after my taxol ended I felt that way too; then moved on from rads and then whew, totally on my own. Training wheels OFF. Leaves us feeling a little unguarded.  You are GOING TO BE OK; you have had aggressive treatment and a lot of vigilence. I know there are no guarantees, but those don't exist anywhere. It sounds like you are on the best track and it synchs up with our treatment plans.  I like the vision of your bike ride - I don;t bike, but  I swim laps - sometimes I cry, but no one really knows cuz I am swimming.  smile.Smile

    now about the butt issues..... I didnt have anywhere near what you describe, BUT, pardon the pun, I did have some soreness there and then a bump that got aggravated and would not go away.I had it checked.  It is finally calm. Take care and stay the course....hang in there.

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