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  • NatureGrrl
    NatureGrrl Member Posts: 1,367
    edited July 2009

    I haven't been exercising, although I did get in walks through about the first half of my A/C. 

    I thought with Taxol I would feel better, or better enough, to get in at least some short walks.

    Instead, fatigue is still a problem, and I ache more days of each week (5) than I feel OK (2).

    Still, I keep thinking some sort of exercise would have to help.  I looked for a local cancer-related exercise program -- thought that might motivate me -- but there is no such thing.

    If I could get out of bed I'd try to go for a short walk in the AM before work, but I barely get out of bed in time to get to work most days.

    I'm thinking mild yoga would help, too, but I haven't got that together yet either.

    Has anyone been able to exercise (even mildly) through their treatment, and if so, how do you motivate yourself through the fatigue/pain?

    Any thoughts/help/anything?  I don't know if I'm expecting too much of myself at this point but I'd like to try exercise and see if it does help (I pretty much know it would!).  But it's hard when I only have myself to depend on for just about everything, including motivation and pep talks!

    Kick me in the rear, anyone? :)

  • jancie
    jancie Member Posts: 2,631
    edited July 2009

    I had so much joint pain through Taxol that it was hard for me to walk - then add the fatigue factor on top of that.  I started off just walking 20 minutes a day.  I slowly was able to increase it to 2 miles a day after I completed Taxol.  I was walking while taking Lortabs but Lortabs don't knock me out like most people.  Most of the earlier days it was just one trip around the block.  I didn't beat myself up for not going farther because my body was wanting to rest but it did help me mentally.

    Baby steps is all I can advise for now.  ((((( Hugs)))))

  • ktym
    ktym Member Posts: 2,637
    edited July 2009

    Nature girl: my heart aches for you, the taxotere made it so hard for me.  Baby steps is right.  I let myself take a day off a week.  On the other days I did what I could.  Some days that was 15 minutes at a very slow pace on the treadmill (it was winter, not it would be to the end of the block and back), on the other days I did what I could.  I found yoga to be very helpful.  If you are interested I can suggest a couple of DVD's that might be easier then signing up somewhere. All I can say is keep trying.  It really makes a difference.  With each cycle I could do less, but if you keep doing something your body uses it and will remember and you'll be better off. 

  • LoriR
    LoriR Member Posts: 131
    edited July 2009

    Nature Girl,

    i have found that it is a catch22 for me - the more I rest the more I hurt and the more I need to rest because I hurt.  I am a runner and have been for about 3 years.  I was running 6 miles 3-4 times a week before chemo and I have been able to get to that on my good week.  I am on TCH X4.  I have had 3 and get my 4th and final on Wednesday.  What has worked for me is walking the first week after a tx and then jogging the 2nd and then back to running on the third.  I also started a Yoga class twice a week when Chemo started.  It has helped A LOT (not only physical but mentally it has done wonders to just "get right with life" or so I call it.   You are right tho - no program seems to exist to help you during chemo.  I wish there was.  I don't know if I am doing too much or if when I hurt it is good because I am pushing myself or am I hurting myself. 

    Last weekend I was tired and layed around and it seemed like the more I rested the more I hurt.  I will say that I went from Full time to part time work so that has helped me get the rest I need and still have energy to exercise.  What type of work do you do?  If you are doing any type of physical work do not sell your self to short on the excercise you are getting?   Were you doing any regular exercise before chemo?  Everyone is so different and I know the AC-t is MUCH harder on people than the TCH that I am getting so even if you get out for a walk 2-3 times a week for 10 minutes then you should be proud of yourself.  I am more proud of the 10 minute walk I take on chemo day than I am of the 6 miles I run the day before.  It makes me feel strong to be able to walk after my body has been filled with "draino".  I wish I knew more about exercise in general - If I did I would start something in my area so cancer patients didn't have to figure this stuff out on their own -

  • NatureGrrl
    NatureGrrl Member Posts: 1,367
    edited July 2009

    Thanks, everyone -- inspiration, all!   I'll just do the very best I can and not worry about quantity or anything else -- just moving and doing will be good!

    Lori, I wish I could say the more I rest the more I hurt, that would be motivation to move more, but it's been a mix for me -- some activity makes me hurt more (stairs several times a day, which I can't avoid) and some rest (lying down) really helps the pain go away. I'm drawn to walking and yoga, and my body has a way of telling me what it needs (like chocolate) :)  so I'm focusing on those activities for now and hoping in the long run the pain lessens.  I've seen several gaps in programs/needs for cancer patients, including exercise -- we don't just need meds!

    kmmd, DVD rec's would be appreciated -- I can't see joining a class right now; sometimes getting in the car and driving somewhere and getting in a building zaps me, so I think I'm better off at home and spending my energy that way.

    jancie, thanks for the hugs and encouragement -- baby steps, baby steps! I can at least do baby steps!

    Thanks all, again, and lots of hugs!

  • KerryMac
    KerryMac Member Posts: 3,529
    edited July 2009

    I exercised at the beginning of Chemo, but by the end I just couldn't do it. Don't beat yourself up too much about it. Getting through Chemo is your main priority.

    I am 2 1/2 months out and back into walking 30-60 minutes every morning. My muscles were stiff and sore at first because of the Taxatore (I had terrible pain during Chemo) but I am now feeling great, fit and strong now. Give yourself some time, and don't expect too much of yourself right now. You'll get back into it. 

  • ktym
    ktym Member Posts: 2,637
    edited July 2009

    NatureGirl I'll PM you with the recs. 

  • ShellyJo
    ShellyJo Member Posts: 132
    edited July 2009

    I was on the TAC regime and it did kick my butt. BUT I dragged my ass out the front door as often as possible to walk. Even if was only a block or two, it seemed to help with my recovery. Not everyday, but if I wouldnt go more than 3 days without at least trying..Can only sleep so much..

  • Laurie09
    Laurie09 Member Posts: 313
    edited July 2009

    I did walk almost every day through treatment, though my pain may have been different from others. 

    I did have some bad muscle pain from the taxol, but for me I found that if I moved it was better.  I'm not sure that's true for everyone, though, so I don't know if that would help you or not.

    I do recall it being difficult to get out of bed as I was stiff and sore when I first got up. 

  • Lainey64
    Lainey64 Member Posts: 740
    edited July 2009

    I rarely exercised during A/C because I felt so fatiqued but did manage to get one or two good walks in each week.  During Taxol I started going back to Curves and found that it did help with the aches I was having. 

  • kcheval
    kcheval Member Posts: 12
    edited July 2009

    I did the adriamyicin/taxoter treatment in 2004 and I had always worked out 5 to six days weightlifting. I did change over to cardiovascular exercise half of the time. I was a nut about my nutrition too. I continued to work out during the treatment but I would give myself off 2 days after a treatment, then go to the gym. I did have to force myself sometimes, but it was part of not giving in to cancer or the treatment. I didn't have anyone to motivate me but me. But it makes you feel so much more empowered to get thru a workout, you don't feel so helpless. Make sure you're consuming plenty of protein and taking loads of probiotics. It can also help to do most of your work on a stationery bike, keeps you off your feet and a little reclined. Don't beat yourself up over any of it. You do what you can manage. Hang in there it gets better.

  • NatureGrrl
    NatureGrrl Member Posts: 1,367
    edited July 2009

    Thanks so much, everyone, for your encouragement and support. 

    I got my butt out the door and to the Celery Bog tonight and walked for 20-30 minutes.  Woo hoo!  Granted, it was a very sloooow walk! but it was a walk!  Felt good to be out, see the herons and baby rabbits, and soak up some nature, in addition to just enjoying the movement.

    Now to keep that up!

    Hugs to you all.

  • LoriR
    LoriR Member Posts: 131
    edited July 2009

    Good for you!  You should be very proud of yourself and I am so glad that it made you feel good - remember that feeling so you want to do it again even if your body says no. 

    Lori

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