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  • konakat
    konakat Member Posts: 6,085
    edited June 2009

    Thanks EWB and Saint.  The only thing I insist on is that I am cremated and my ashes stirred in with that of my cats (assuming Chloe dies before me, she is very old) and have them sprinkled around my childhood home, in which Mom still lives.  That I have written down and told many.

    Other than that I really don't care once I'm dead.  Whatever will make Mom feel good, well, as much as possible. I won't be there, it's for the living, and what is best for the living ones I care about.

    I'm hoping to stay on in Boston until the end of Sept and see what happens.  I know I am somewhat happy here, with crappy days thrown in, I don't know how I will be back in Ottawa.  Sure, friends will greet me, but everyone has their own life, I will only be lonely again.  Gawd, that sounds so pathetic...sorry about that... 

    I worry that I won't get my strength up to work fulltime again.  I know part of my lethargy is boredom, it so easy to loll in bed with my cat and read, zap out a few resumes... I'll see what happens...I can't stay passive for too long and let life pass me by.

  • EWB
    EWB Member Posts: 2,927
    edited June 2009

    Can you stay in Boston without the boyfriend? What sort of work do you do? do you want to do? Maybe something really different like a non profit?

    Always remember that there is a whole world out there just waiting to be discovered and explored...just have to keep your eyes open..no lollying in bed missy

  • konakat
    konakat Member Posts: 6,085
    edited June 2009

    I'm a business systems analyst and also a librarian.  The problem is, is that my job must fit certain visa requirements for me to stay.  Other than absolutely loving Boston and New England, I want to stay mostly because of him (except when he pisses me off).  My boyfriend and I don't live together so there is no financial benefits there -- just emotional.

    If I moved back to Canada I wouldn't have limits on what I can do.  I could take any job that interested me (and if they wanted me, of course!) and focus on getting myself out of debt and onto a tropical beach ASAP!!  Hmmmmm, I just can't decide what to do!!!  Arrrghhhhh!!

    And yes, ma'am, no lollying tomorrow.  Innocent

  • Toni1844
    Toni1844 Member Posts: 15
    edited June 2009

    Hi, all. I don't post much..but I read this thread ALOT lately.  I find myself going "there" more and more often these days.

    I keep telling myself that I need to finalize things, but I never get around to it.  Even simple things like cleaning out my closets so that my husband won't have to do it...I just can't let go and accept that I won't be going back to work an need my clothes.  I need to update my funeral arrangements and pick out a plot...you know,.,,"the stuff" you do when they tell you that you only have a few months.

    I just want my life back.  I want to be with my friends...take my kids to Disney World...actually get to retire from my job...get old.  I've had mets for 4 years now...I guess I should just have accepted that the time was gonna come when organs would be involved and that I would run out of treatments.  

    It still doesn't help.  

    Thanks for listening.

    Toni

  • LynnW
    LynnW Member Posts: 191
    edited June 2009

    Hi girls.

    I haven't been here in about two weeks.  Saint glad your starting to creep back to the top of the hole you fell into. Toni I feel for you.  I've made a full time job out of trying to accept this and not fight it. Fighting it makes me resentful.

     I need a Hugg today.  Had a issue last week with one of my saline implants. Apparently it sprung a slow leak.  Pin hole spot that was leaking due to my breathing.  I told the PS I'd try to jump on that and not breath so much. I had exchange surgury last Wednesday with new Silicone softer boobs not quite so big and more natural shaped.  I felt good Wednesday night.  A little sore on Thursday. Then on Friday I got the all over aches and stiffness that usually occurs every month  or so.  Still don't know what it is.  I had a fever of about 100.9 but it dropped after a few handfuls of tylenol 3.  I swapped them for my perks for the day.  I was fearful of an infection from surgery.  Only 4 weeks since last chemo and red blood count was only 102.  Anyway by Saturday I felt a bit better,,, but have developed a tender area on one of my shins.  I told my husband that since the delay in chemo by two weeks,, that its likely spread. Can it go that quickly. I'm stressed now that I skipped the treatment due to surgery.  They are planning on the chemo this coming Monday the 6th of July. I had to see the PS today to check the incisions. He said they looked phenominal,, yet he put me on antibiotics because theres a small pinkish area on my left boob. He says he doesn't think its an infection but wants to be safe. I wonder if he's lieing.  Pink is Pink,, its got to mean something.  the right boob is fine.  Anyway,, I'm now popping antibiotics 4 times per day,, B6 for numb thumb and finger from Chemo,, Vitamin C just because I think I should take it.  Vitamin D as I've always taken it,, Anti depressant... 20 mg per day and my perks.  I feel like a dispensery.

    My shin is still tender today.  I know its from the bone met and never felt it before. If the cancer has progressed since the last scans,, they are going to switch me to something else.  Last scan showed stable bones and a spot gone on my liver.  I felt like I was getting somewhere.  Now this and it all seems due to the damn implant.hold up.

     On top of all of this my yougest son 17,,, is stealing things from me and my ex husband. I've shipped him to his brothers place to sort things out and look for work.  His Dad will not speak to him and I'm worn out by his sneaky ways.  What have i raised???? and what will happen to him when I'm gone. awwwwwwwg  I need a nap

     Best to all of you .........Lynn

  • EWB
    EWB Member Posts: 2,927
    edited June 2009

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    For anyone needing a hug.....one day at a time dear ones, one day at a time.

  • pookie61
    pookie61 Member Posts: 257
    edited June 2009

    Lynn,

    Many hugs coming your way today.  A nap can be a great idea.

    I don't know about ever being able to accept it.  Sometimes I feel like I am making progess with somehow handling all of the fear, etc and with accepting the inevitable but then something happens that makes me realize that it isn't happening.  Then maybe I think it is better not to work on acceptance but just live the best way day to day and deal with it when I have to.  Am I just wasting time by trying to accept it right now?

    I am still trying to keep a journal and make some plans.  But since I started this antidepressant the need does not seem so urgent.  Don't know whether that is good or bad either.  I have become a very efficient robot lately!

    Sorry Toni no great insight to offer.   Take care of yourself and let us know how you are.

  • konakat
    konakat Member Posts: 6,085
    edited June 2009

    Lynn -- love your comback on trying not to breath too much -- a pinhole from breathing -- great....  I hope your boobs are healing ok and the pink spot is just a little infection or nothing at all -- I hope your surgeon would lie about that -- be at least it's being dealt with before it becomes worrisome. 

    Yikes about the shin -- I hope the mets isn't progressing and your shin is just tired/adjusting to mets.  I wouldn't think it would start up so quickly.  When do you get another scan to check it out?

  • LynnW
    LynnW Member Posts: 191
    edited July 2009

    Thanks for the huggs. Its 2:00 am and my lower shins on both legs are acheing like crazy.  I think its coming from my spine but not sure.  How many perks can a person take over a four hour period anyway.

  • konakat
    konakat Member Posts: 6,085
    edited July 2009

    More hugs for you Lynn.  Both shins now!  Your doc just has to do something about the pain -- it's not right.  Maybe stronger perks?  Gawd, I'm going nuts with the pain you're feeling -- I can't imagine how it for you -- I wish I could send you a magic cure!  I just wish you'd get relief soon --- infinite hugs coming your way.

    Elizabeth

    xooo

  • dreamwriter
    dreamwriter Member Posts: 3,255
    edited July 2009

    http://www.last.fm/group/babble/forum/56644/_/326447/_/4924847

    Big hugs to Lynn

  • LynnW
    LynnW Member Posts: 191
    edited July 2009
    Thanks for the huggs,, I can feel them. Sealed
  • Fitztwins
    Fitztwins Member Posts: 7,969
    edited July 2009

    Hugs Lynn. Shame on your son. Gosh! that stinks.

  • dreamwriter
    dreamwriter Member Posts: 3,255
    edited July 2009

    Those of you who know TerryO (from chats) and her SO Cathy may want to know that Cathy was diagnosed with a brain tumour.  I have opened prayer threads in Stage VI and Prayers and Spiritual Inspirations.

  • saint
    saint Member Posts: 1,877
    edited July 2009

    Hugs all!

    Special hugs to Toni!! We each have to walk our own path, but I think it is a bit easier for me cuz of my faith (& denial helps me)------I just live for today & try hard NOT to embrace the darkness! I have accepted that "something new" is going to pop up unexpectedly & regularly! Just about the time I start to feel complacent, that things may plateau & I can ignore the beast, he raises his ugly head........AGAIN!

    Lynn---mets USUALLY does not go past elbows or knees---- I find it difficult to believe you could have such an aggressive cancer that it would progress during such a short break! Try not to let your head take you there! Our imagiinations take us far worse place than reality usually can! HUGS

    I get scan results tomorrow--I am totally calm, but for the first time I can remember, I have NO sense for what they are going to say.....wondering if that is a good thing or a bad thing..usually I have a strong feeling that it is going to be one way or another (& mostly I have been right)..maybe I am just too beat up from rads to go there!

    Be well & stay strong

  • EGAL
    EGAL Member Posts: 539
    edited July 2009

    Hugs Lynn~

    Ellen

  • dreamwriter
    dreamwriter Member Posts: 3,255
    edited July 2009
  • dreamwriter
    dreamwriter Member Posts: 3,255
    edited July 2009

    I am pleased to see people directing others to appropriate threads.  If more support and info is somewhere else, please please point it out.  No one is excluded from this thread.  It has done what it was supposed to do, open the door to conversation about being Stage 4 and what our future holds for us.  I love how this song sets it out:

    Seasons of Love

     525,600 minutes, 525,000 moments so dear. 525,600 minutes - how do you measure,
    measure a year? In daylights, in sunsets, in midnights, in cups of coffee. In inches, in miles, in laughter, in strife.

    In 525,600 minutes - how do you
    measure a year in the life?
    How about love? How about love? How about love? Measure in love. Seasons of love.

    525,600 minutes! 525,000 journeys to plan. 525,600 minutes - how can you measure
    the life of a woman or man?

    In truths that she learned, or in times that he cried. In bridges he burned, or
    the way that she died.

    It's time now to sing out, tho the story never ends let's celebrate. Remember a year in the life of friends. Remember the love! Remember the love! Remember the love! Measure in love. Seasons of love! Seasons of love.

    So no matter who comes here, please feel welcome to voice your future.

  • saint
    saint Member Posts: 1,877
    edited July 2009

    Hugs dream! LOVE IT!

  • EWB
    EWB Member Posts: 2,927
    edited July 2009

    What song is that from?

  • dreamwriter
    dreamwriter Member Posts: 3,255
    edited July 2009

    The song was Season of Love from the movie Rent.

  • dreamwriter
    dreamwriter Member Posts: 3,255
    edited July 2009

    Seasons of Love

    Arent you proud of me........

  • EWB
    EWB Member Posts: 2,927
    edited July 2009
  • kenzie57
    kenzie57 Member Posts: 207
    edited July 2009

    Hi gals:

    I am so glad I found this thread.  I haven't found what I needed on the Stage IV boards.  I have no loving husband and no kids.  I have two great sisters and I hate that I am saddelding them with this.  But, I think I am ready to give up.  Haven't broke it to them just yet.  I went through a horrible round of chemo last month and am due for another Thursday.  I just don't think I want to do it anymore.  I can't talk to my friends or sisters about this, that is why I am so glad I found this thread.  I love my house and my dogs and am very happy being home with them.  So, I feel like maybe just quit the chemo that will give me another month, six months, whatever, who knows.  I don't have any children that I want to stick around for like others do.  I just want to enjoy what time I have left sitting on my deck with my dogs, pain free.  Even though I do not have a loving husband or children, I know it is a tough decision to give up.  Even more so when you have to feel like you have to keep going for others that love you.  So maybe I am lucky in that way.  The friends I do have and the boyfriend I have/had, haven't really been there for me in the way I would hope or the way I think I would be there for someone else.  It is difficult when you do not have someone to talk about this to.  The more you talk about it, the easier it gets to accept it. 

    Once again, I am very grateful for you all for keeping this thread going.  It has helped me in ways no one else could,

    Linda

  • EWB
    EWB Member Posts: 2,927
    edited July 2009

    Linda- so sorry you are having a rough time with the chemo. I don't know your situation but have you looked into pallitive care? not hospice, but true pallitive care which is about managing pain and side effects....some how its been turned into end of life issues but its focus is broader and at any time thru the treatment experience. Not all oncs are "experts" in side effects (I prefer to call them unwanted effects of the drugs) and quality of life concerns....PC people are and maybe able to offer help/relief.

    As far as treatment, only you exan make that decision. Know that people are here to chat, ask, answer, laugh, cry, whatever, when ever.

    Hugs

  • dreamwriter
    dreamwriter Member Posts: 3,255
    edited July 2009

    Palliative care can start any time - even during treatment.  You say you just had a round and will have another Thursday.  Was there an end date to that?  When is your next scans?  If you could hold out and see if you are close to stable you may get your wish.  And there are agencies that will step up to the plate and help you live the life you choose.

  • saint
    saint Member Posts: 1,877
    edited July 2009

    I was told from the moment I was dx'd with mets that my care is palliative.....symantics?

    Only YOU know when enough is enough--but maybe a different chemo or reduced dose would be more managable & you never know til you try! I thought I was near the end in Jan '08, but a break & new tx have changed everything--

    Hugs--we are here for you whatever you choose!

    Be well & stay strong

  • mammalamma
    mammalamma Member Posts: 30
    edited July 2009

    hi Lynn  I'm new to the group, but not to breast CA  -  rarrgh!  I just read your note from 3/8, and wanted to give you a hug.  It is impossible for anyone to know what this is like, unless they've been here, done this...  My original dx. was 11/2000, just found bone mets in 3/2009 - I cannpt believe how much they hurt.  And, just when you get to a place in your head where you are resigned and even peaceful about things, the pain kicks in!!  And it gallops away with you, the pills just chase it and don't always catch it, and [we] wonder  -  WTF??? how did this happen so quick, how am I supposed to live indefinitely like this?  -  you know -how, what, when why?  Hope I don't sound whiney; just wanted to let you know I understand and literally feel your pain.  Some might say I'm a God-fearin' woman, but that's only a small part of me and God.  I love Him; my fear is of losing contact with Him, but that happens.  I've been 'walking' with God for 30 years; so much good and bad has happened - if I had not entered the cancer portals without having established some kind of foundation of faith, I cannot imagine the terror. Now, I'm telling you this because I think it would be beyond cruel to read your post, know your pain, and not say anything.  But..He is there - all it takes is simple honesty [which now may be a primal scream!!] and tell Him you need Him - He will answer, in a way that you will understand. Your very core can change, somehow that happens and everything changes.  I'm no Pollyanna - I'm a terminal cancer patient, among many other things.  I cry, scream,bitch,throw things, spend money just like anyone else under this vile burden.  But I do know that at the very center of things, God loves me, He is good, and some things never change, I hope that in all of this note, there has been something for you, to help you.  best regards, mamma

  • mammalamma
    mammalamma Member Posts: 30
    edited July 2009

    hi Lynn  I'm new to the group, but not to breast CA  -  rarrgh!  I just read your note from 3/8, and wanted to give you a hug.  It is impossible for anyone to know what this is like, unless they've been here, done this...  My original dx. was 11/2000, just found bone mets in 3/2009 - I cannpt believe how much they hurt.  And, just when you get to a place in your head where you are resigned and even peaceful about things, the pain kicks in!!  And it gallops away with you, the pills just chase it and don't always catch it, and [we] wonder  -  WTF??? how did this happen so quick, how am I supposed to live indefinitely like this?  -  you know -how, what, when why?  Hope I don't sound whiney; just wanted to let you know I understand and literally feel your pain.  Some might say I'm a God-fearin' woman, but that's only a small part of me and God.  I love Him; my fear is of losing contact with Him, but that happens.  I've been 'walking' with God for 30 years; so much good and bad has happened - if I had not entered the cancer portals without having established some kind of foundation of faith, I cannot imagine the terror. Now, I'm telling you this because I think it would be beyond cruel to read your post, know your pain, and not say anything.  But..He is there - all it takes is simple honesty [which now may be a primal scream!!] and tell Him you need Him - He will answer, in a way that you will understand. Your very core can change, somehow that happens and everything changes.  I'm no Pollyanna - I'm a terminal cancer patient, among many other things.  I cry, scream,bitch,throw things, spend money just like anyone else under this vile burden.  But I do know that at the very center of things, God loves me, He is good, and some things never change, I hope that in all of this note, there has been something for you, to help you.  best regards, mamma

  • hollyann
    hollyann Member Posts: 2,992
    edited July 2009

    Ok I have put this off and put this off but I can no longer stop myself......Even though I am not stage 4 I often wonder if I even have a future left after bc because it has been my experience with all my female relatives except my grandmother that we don't live past age 55 to 65.....To me that is too young to die.....So I ask you dear sisters what you would do in my shoes?........Would you live in fear all the time thinking of what could have been or just try your best to ignore these familial facts and hope you outlive all of them?......This had bothered me for a long time....porbalby from day 1.......I empathize with all of you who are stage 4.......I don't feel sorry for you because you all are such courageous, loving and giving ladies and you know how to LIVE for the moment.......You all are my heroes and my inspiration.........I don't know how you do it......But I do know I don't want to live this way feeling scared and sad all the time.........I know i have a better chance of living 30 more years than my mom did in the 50's,  60's and 70's...She had bc for over 19 years!.......And I don't think I ever once saw her sad about it...I do remember her last months and they were fraught with sickness and sadness but up til then you would never know exactly how sick she was..........I want to be like my mother and all these beautiful courageous women here on this board............I want to be able to give hope like you all give me hope.......I am once again in my life faced with a blank when it comes to trying to picture my future........The first time was when my mother passed.....How do you do it?.......I have faith in God and faith in Jesus and believe one day I will go home to Heaven to be with my family...But what do I do in between?....I'm sorry I am rambling now........ My husband thinks I ma nuts when I say things like this but again he doesn't understand and I forgive him for that.......No one knows how it feels but us I guess........I love you all and wish nothing but the best for you all..........I am so fortunate to have mat you all no matter what...........

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